Hey fellow XDA-ers.
I hope that in this thread we can unite in finding a solution for the annoying t9 input mehod, without breaking the hardware keyboard.
What's the problem:
I want to get rid of the annoying black t9 input and autocomplete bar, and use the standard WM6.1 version.
What anoys me the most is when you type an address for sending text, you start by typing first name of for instance friends who share a first name, but have different last names, , as soon as you hit space for the lastname, the person with the first name that's on top of the list gets selected..ARG
I also hate the lag it introduces.
So getting rid of the black ezinput part of the keyboard.
This can be done by replacing the eT9 values in your registry at the layout to COMP (et9IME replace by compIME and so on) and this works for soft keyboard.
However, this "fix" breaks some stuff in your hardware keyboard (the SYM key for instance stops working, also you cannot get the euro sign or the pund sign by pressing fn E or fn W)
I of course want the best of both worlds, and especially miss the sym button for getting a "\" whilst typing in shortcuts
So, I have tried so much, but haven't found a solution yet.
Does anybody know how to get this "best of both worlds" option?
Does opening up the on-screen keyboard and hitting the T9 --> ABC switch help?
nope
It doesn't use autocomplete then when typing text, but you still get the black bar at the bottom whilst entering an address, and the space-issue (filling in word after space) is introduced.
I just want the behaviour as when eT9 replaced by comp (ei. you get a couple of suggestion in your screen in light grey boxes, in stead of on bottom bar in black) but with FULL use of my hardware keyboard.
I want to do this without installing all kinds of secondary software that slows my device down, but want to solve it at the root.
Hope I am explaining the problem clearly
But thanks for the reply..
Maybe we can figure it out..
known problem
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
player911 said:
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
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If that's the case, making a cab, or posting the necesary files to replace would be ideal.
Does your SYM key work?
sounds like a very good start
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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Tnx for your input Steve.
I allready have that set up, but as you will find, it does not get rid of the black bar during txt msgs to field input, if you know what I mean.
It also gives lag on the hardware keyboard input comapred to the comp ide input method, which I find anoying.
What I really want is just the old wm input and auto complete feature without breaking my keyboard.
but as said before, thanks for the input.
This way we can narrow it down and hopefully make the problem easier to understand.
Ta...
tried editing sym files
Tried editing and replacing the txt files in windows directory,
eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt and eT9DeadKeys.txt and renamint the et9 to comp, no luck.
Anybody any suggestions?
akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
Not quite
Smaniac said:
I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
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It get's rid of the black bar whilst typing a text, however whilst typing an adress in the to field, you will notice that you still get a black bar and proposed name in the bottom of your screen.
This is actually eT9 still running, and slowing down your input, trust me on this
The "old" way, you'd get the proposed names next to your to field, in a light grey box, and you could scroll through them and use the space bar without getting it to autocomplete.
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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GaZ said:
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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It does the trick and it is how I use it now.
It's just not the solution I am looking for.
I'm a bit wierd in that way, if I see it poping up, I know it's there and it just annoys me...
Don't you just love the way things were before
But thanks for the tip.
No luck here yet
I haven't had any luck yet, anybody else?
This issue is really starting to bug me
Any luck yet with removing the T9 Black bar? I am having this problem as well.
Me too!
i want the old way with the little grey box, it was so much better. It gave a number of people when you typed in a user name for sms and it also gave better autocomplete options.
Solve for all us
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
yes it worked for me on Touch HD perfectly
Works
Igoran said:
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
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TY it completely rocks on Touch HD.
Does this just disable T9 on the hardware keyboard? AND, when entering a contact into sms or email you get the grey list like before?
What about T9 for soft keypad/boards? How does it function now?
I stumbled upon your thread while searching for "disable t9 hardware keyboard".
I have the same problem on my Kaiser... Installed ezinput keypad/board and now have that 'damn' black bar. I'm getting used to it like 'GaZ' but dont really like it...
<<<UPDATE: Only selected abc over t9. Black bar still there.>>>>
use different sip
im not sure if this help but wasnt this issue introduced with the diamond sip set? maybe using different sips might get rid of it. or maybe replacing the new eT9 and using the old wm6 t9 instead in wm6.1 roms. just a thought
Hello all any help with this would be appreciated.
The Soft keys on my Vox just don't work any more. When I press the start button there is a little bit of white and that's it. If I pull out the keyboard I can press start. Also I cannot use the navigational pad up or down but can use it to move left or right.
When I press 1 sometimes 12 shows up when I press 7 sometimes 78 shows up.
On the keyboard r gives me q, i gives me h, x gives me w, c gives me a.
Thanks much in advance for your help.
I have done multiple rom flashing from the shipped ones to those made others same result.
kyar600 said:
Hello all any help with this would be appreciated.
The Soft keys on my Vox just don't work any more. When I press the start button there is a little bit of white and that's it. If I pull out the keyboard I can press start. Also I cannot use the navigational pad up or down but can use it to move left or right.
When I press 1 sometimes 12 shows up when I press 7 sometimes 78 shows up.
On the keyboard r gives me q, i gives me h, x gives me w, c gives me a.
Thanks much in advance for your help.
I have done multiple rom flashing from the shipped ones to those made others same result.
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may you need to get right keyboard layout
and maybe your hw is damaged or flexcable jumped off connector.
check your keyboardmats and reflash original rom
Thanks for the reply.
How do I go about getting the right keyboard layout?
What's "hw" and how do I check my keyboard mats?
Sorry for all the questions just need to know what these things are and mean.
Thanks much once again in advance.
kyar600 said:
Thanks for the reply.
How do I go about getting the right keyboard layout?
What's "hw" and how do I check my keyboard mats?
Sorry for all the questions just need to know what these things are and mean.
Thanks much once again in advance.
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you can find it somwhere here in forum(link)
hw is hardware
check if your connectioncable from upper part of mobile to lower body is still right connectet.(or if it begins to get of its connector and if replug it)
I do not know why my touch keyboard change to like this (please read the enclosed screen, all the alphabets gone, except p and w), I have tried to hardreset and then reinstall all the programs. It works fine for a couple weeks but all the sudden it changes again.
I am usng english version.
Do anyone has this kind of error? How to fix it? Please help
click the small arrow at the bottom of the screen, and select full QWERTY.
hope that helps.
I have the same problem and selecting full qwerty doesn't solve that. It is already qwerty , but it is somehow stuck on the number input layout.
Any other chance to solve this?
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I have the same problem and selecting full qwerty doesn't solve that. It is already qwerty , but it is somehow stuck on the number input layout.
Any other chance to solve this?
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just an idea:
Did you try to select a different type of keyboard ("Phone Keypad" or "Keyboard") and then switch back to "Full QWERTY" again?
Did you disable xT9? if so, re-enable it and soft reset. This could solve your issue as someone earlier in the forum had the exact same issue and was solved the same way. search for that old post.
great! Thanks for advice, omar!
I've unistalled some xt9 tweak for czech language.
And I've edited some registry keys
... it's working again!
Code:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime\TextInputMode = 1
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime\CurrentET9Style= 0
Hope some of that helps... I've done more edits at one time so I don't know which was the one that solved it.
i just bought atrix 2 like yesterday and update into ics *not root yet*..and today i have problem with keyboard which is i cant press the "G" and "V" word in vertical mode..but there is no prob on horizontal orientation...already install keyboard from playstore but nothing change..what should i do to fix this ??
zintz said:
i just bought atrix 2 like yesterday and update into ics *not root yet*..and today i have problem with keyboard which is i cant press the "G" and "V" word in vertical mode..but there is no prob on horizontal orientation...already install keyboard from playstore but nothing change..what should i do to fix this ??
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Are you positive it's a problem with the keyboard rather than the touch screen?
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zintz said:
i just bought atrix 2 like yesterday and update into ics *not root yet*..and today i have problem with keyboard which is i cant press the "G" and "V" word in vertical mode..but there is no prob on horizontal orientation...already install keyboard from playstore but nothing change..what should i do to fix this ??
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1BadWolf said:
Are you positive it's a problem with the keyboard rather than the touch screen?
Brought to you by time and relative dimensions in space.
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To find out if u hv problem with keyboard or ur touch(as suggested by badwolf :thumbup: ), enable show touches option in development options under setting and check.
I have the 915G and am having troubles with using keyboards other than the one that comes standard.
The problem is clicking any button on the left side 1, q, a are very hit and miss which is very annoying, my preferred keyboard is Smart Keyboard Pro which does it, have tried others and they do it to
Any help would be appreciated
I only use the default keybaord, but I use to use swipe.
Have you tried the calibration?
It should bee on there in the settings. It will have you type a sentence to help map the buttons better.
xile6 said:
I only use the default keybaord, but I use to use swipe.
Have you tried the calibration?
It should bee on there in the settings. It will have you type a sentence to help map the buttons better.
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Thanks, I tried that and it did help a little but not much. So I searched around and tried a few, Hackers Keyboard works great