[Q] But Will It Be Truly Open? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just read on CyanogenMod's website that all CM stock ROM's allow the owner of the phone to control whether root access should be granted to an application. Will OnePlus One allow a general user to install a native C++ application that requires root access without hassle?

RareHare said:
I just read on CyanogenMod's website that all CM stock ROM's allow the owner of the phone to control whether root access should be granted to an application. Will OnePlus One allow a general user to install a native C++ application that requires root access without hassle?
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The OnePlus One will be delivered in official state not rooted.
If you want install applications with root requierement then you have to root first your device.
Rooting/flashing/modifiing the software is dangerous by nature so if you damage your phone by doing this no one will replace you it for free and not with warranty.
Rooting/flashing/modifiing your device is okay by OnePlus if you asking cause of warranty but when you damage it cause of rooting its not okay for example when you try overclock with a app.
I tried to explain it simple i hope all will understand and agree this.
There is also a thread in OnePlus One forum if you want take this information from the base just use search engine like always
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Judging from the OP's original point it sounds like rooting is a simple on/off feature unless I'm misreading. Or will this be another device that we root the same way as we would any other device?
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Jersey846 said:
Judging from the OP's original point it sounds like rooting is a simple on/off feature unless I'm misreading. Or will this be another device that we root the same way as we would any other device?
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I would think from what I've heard this phone should be as easy to root as a Nexus. It should be basic fastboot oem unlock for the bootloader then you can flash a custom recovery and superuser.

I root my devices, because I usually want to get rid of the unneeded CRAP that comes with most phones.
If OPO or any other mfg delivers a device without the bloat, I doubt I would need to root it.

The main reason I root is for a particular call blocking app that requires root and works on the system level. Main reason.
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I need root at least for Titanium Backup as I'm a flashaholic... and always in need of a full backup of all the important apps I install everytime. But from what I read, it will be possible to choose whether to root or not. About bootloader I don't know. I'm also curious what recovery will be installed... Will they build their own version of CWM? And if yes, will we need to build something else?

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[Q] Is there a way to trick an app?

On more than one occasion (renting google moves and enterprise email), I have been told I can't use an app because my device is rooted.
Is there a way to "trick" an app into thinking that the device is not rooted so that the app can be used?
P.S. I posted in Dev first but I think its going to be deleted. Well I am pretty sure so I am reposting here.
Does it ask for super user permissions, if so deny them and see if that works.
As far as movies, I think we need source to trick the os.
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Thanks for the replies...
Neither app needs root permissions. They just won't run on rooted devices.
It checks something...anybody have an idea of what it checks?
i m very interest in this too. i nvr root but.it is good if i/can use titanium backup
anyone got some more info on this?
i also need to trick an app into thinkin my device is not rooted

[Q] Unroot question

Is it possible to unroot your phone without going back to the stock rom? My employer started offering wi-fi but only for unrooted devices. Thank you.
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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Волк said:
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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They do have something that you have to install in order to use the wi-fi service. I hadn't seen anything about hiding root and will do a search on that. Thank you!
Chuck
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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I work for a financial company so everything is extra secure.
I still don't understand why root access to your own device poses a threat so much that your employer doesn't want you connecting to wifi. Either way l, hope someone can help u hide ur super user status or connect to the network anyway
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Because companies like that are paranoid and think you may accidently or on purpose give them a virus, or have them. Android is not affected by a Win32 virus, and it may not even be affected by a regular Linux virus (very unlikely but I don't know tons about the ins and outs on that level).
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Not sure if hiding su would work. A simple app should be able to determine that you have su binary even without gaining access (IMHO).
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Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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xBkKx said:
Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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Thanks everyone. I found a few things that I am going to try and will let you know if any work!
Chuck
So I have an update on this. The app that my employer is using for this is AirWatch. I tried using the Temporary Unroot option in Superuser prior to installing it but my phone still came back as non-compliant. I know that the unroot worked though because ROM Manager told me that the phone needed to be unrooted in order for it to work. I am thinking there may be another app on my phone that it is detecting and thus causing it to say it is out of compliance. I am going to keep researching but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
Chuck
maybe it's detecting any of the apps on your phone that were granted su access....did you deny them SU access before hiding root?
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
chuckbort said:
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
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Can you try a full unroot with super one click and see if that works?
I would have a $500 brick if it weren't for nvflash. Thanks Nvidia!
Thank you again to everyone for your help. We switched to the new plan at T-Mobile and I ended up buying the HTC One. With the offer to trade in my wife's Samsung Exhibit 4G (the I first one) for $100 toward the purchase from HTC I felt it was the right time to upgrade.

[Q] false root status?

I have a next book 7 premium, serial starting with yfg, android is 4.0.4. I have not rooted this device but superuser and root checker seem to show t as rooted. Does this model come rooted or is it possible that I am getting a false root status?
Try installing titanium back or busybox, if you get is that it is rooted
What's the importance of busybox??
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Mohamed Khaled Mk said:
What's the importance of busybox??
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Busybox is simply a linux script/tool containing a bunch of mainstream commands allowing for simple commandline actions. Usually those are only accessed by the system and some root apps, so in general i'd recommend to keep the one bundled with your rom since that's the one it's meant to use. Some apps like titanium backup might require a newer one though.
Some links to get your doubts:
01. androidforums.com/ally-all-things-root/235909-what-busybox.html
02. http://forum.xda-developers.comshowthread.php?t=1248706
03. richweb.com/node/177
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uxorial said:
I have a next book 7 premium, serial starting with yfg, android is 4.0.4. I have not rooted this device but superuser and root checker seem to show t as rooted. Does this model come rooted or is it possible that I am getting a false root status?
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some phones do come rooted
eg. my sis's HTC explorer -pico
Well busy box installed no problems. So if I have root has anyone found any custom roms yet cuz as far as I know if I brick the stock rom isn't available but I really want to take advantage of my root

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Hi, I am a noob to android always had IOS phones, I bought a MOTO G at the weekend and so far have been very impressed with it.
I am the type of guy who likes to mess with stuff and have heard a lot of people talking about rooting there android phones.
My phone is on 4.4.2 is sim free and a UK version, can I root this and should I root this?
Thanks
Hello and welcome to Android
Your First question :yes you can root it
Your Second question : yes you should root it
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Hi, Thanks for the reply, is there a noobs guide to rooting the phone on 4.4.2.
Thanks
Just look in this forum
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tomemon said:
Just look in this forum
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Again thanks for the response, I have spent the last couple of days reading, but am slightly unsure what to do, I have seen mentions differences between uk/us versions ect.
Is there no standard guide?
I think the root method is the same exept for gpe
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being looking for ages now, I found a guide that says
type" fastboot oem get_unlock_data"
But cmd just says waiting for device.
toastedone said:
being looking for ages now, I found a guide that says
type" fastboot oem get_unlock_data"
But cmd just says waiting for device.
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You need Moto G, Fastboot and ADB drivers.
Follow this guide, it has everything you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585755
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Thinks i just killed my phone, after running superboot, screen went purple then black then nothing
toastedone said:
Thinks i just killed my phone, after running superboot, screen went purple then black then nothing
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You fixed it
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toastedone said:
Thinks i just killed my phone, after running superboot, screen went purple then black then nothing
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Superboot also didn't work for me.
Custom recovery like cwm and then flashing supersu is better in my opinion.
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Firstly great choice leaving that other OS behind that's the best decision you have made.
Secondly the moto g is another great decision as its an amazing phone..
Yes root it, install xposed framework and gravitybox and customize your heart out.
I followed the guide over at modaco forums to root mine:
http://www.modaco.com/forum/751-motorola-moto-g/
There are two methods to root either work fine.
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Ok I think the phone is fine, in apps I now have SuperSU.
Ok I now get a warning when I start the phone, so bootloader is unlocked, and I have superSU installed in apps, whats the next step, sorry for the newbie questions.
toastedone said:
Ok I now get a warning when I start the phone, so bootloader is unlocked, and I have superSU installed in apps, whats the next step, sorry for the newbie questions.
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IMHO, you should use your phone without making those hacks for a while. You need root if you want to change something really specific on your phone or want to run some really specific apps. The vast majority of people doesn't need any of those.
That said, since you already rooted your phone, you might want to try using Xposed Framework (with gravitybox), Greenify and Titanium Backup. Search for those to see if that is something you might think is useful.
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diegodru said:
IMHO, you should use your phone without making those hacks for a while. You need root if you want to change something really specific on your phone or want to run some really specific apps. The vast majority of people doesn't need any of those.
That said, since you already rooted your phone, you might want to try using Xposed Framework (with gravitybox), Greenify and Titanium Backup. Search for those to see if that is something you might think is useful.
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Ok just in case I mess something up along the way how do I do a factory reset?
I would read on xda a good bit before attempting to do anything as it's not for the faint hearted but as soon as you have enough knowledge you'll be fine.
I'm the sort of person who likes to root but even I haven't gotten around to unlocking the bootloader on the Moto G yet and I have it a month now, I only use it as a second phone after my HTC One, plus I only use a tablet and not a PC /Laptop so you can't do anything like this on a tablet which frankly I find bizzare given more people use tablets now then desktop computers and laptops but anyway read, read and read more and you'll be fine
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[Q] Suggestions For Rooting?

Could someone suggest the best (safest) method of rooting my AT&T G3? I've only rooted a couple of phones over the years, so I'm not terribly experienced at this. I don't want to flash any new ROMs or change the phone drastically. I don't even care much about removing bloatware. I'd be happy if I could just remove that stubborn circle clock widget on the lock screen and would really love it if I could restore the FM radio.
rickaysen said:
Could someone suggest the best (safest) method of rooting my AT&T G3? I've only rooted a couple of phones over the years, so I'm not terribly experienced at this. I don't want to flash any new ROMs or change the phone drastically. I don't even care much about removing bloatware. I'd be happy if I could just remove that stubborn circle clock widget on the lock screen and would really love it if I could restore the FM radio.
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IO root (I think that's the name) is simple just enter in two commands
In the adb and that's pretty much it. Also I think the radio is a hardware thing and is only on the D855 international model.
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rickaysen said:
Could someone suggest the best (safest) method of rooting my AT&T G3? I've only rooted a couple of phones over the years, so I'm not terribly experienced at this. I don't want to flash any new ROMs or change the phone drastically. I don't even care much about removing bloatware. I'd be happy if I could just remove that stubborn circle clock widget on the lock screen and would really love it if I could restore the FM radio.
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I'd go with Towel Root. Its unbelievably easy and works perfect. Google towel root and go to the website to download the apk. Once you download and install, open it up and hit "make it rain" then boom your rooted. After that I'd download SuperSU.
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Pure+ said:
I'd go with Towel Root. Its unbelievably easy and works perfect. Google towel root and go to the website to download the apk. Once you download and install, open it up and hit "make it rain" then boom your rooted. After that I'd download SuperSU.
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This. Towelroot is by far the easiest and safest route. Doesn't even have to reboot the phone. IT JUST WORKS
Curious, I'm relatively a newbie, after Towel Root method and the phone is rooted what benefits are gained? For example, Is it possible after rooting to install an app for Hotspotting?
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Alienuser said:
Curious, I'm relatively a newbie, after Towel Root method and the phone is rooted what benefits are gained? For example, Is it possible after rooting to install an app for Hotspotting?
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After root you will will be able to download apps and tweaks that would require root to run. Its like having full access to your phone and files. Like having admin rights I guess. I'm not sure about hotspot.
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jasvncnt1 said:
After root you will will be able to download apps and tweaks that would require root to run. Its like having full access to your phone and files. Like having admin rights I guess. I'm not sure about hotspot.
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Thanks for the tips everyone.
About hot spots. I rooted my G2 and was able to tether whereas before, AT&T prevented this function unless I paid extra.
Not sure I want t o do it at this point because the risk/benefit isn't worth it for me. This phone has so much storage that the bloatware isn't an issue and I never really tethered as much as I thought I would. Too bad about the FM radio. Regaining that function would persuade me.

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