[Q] Is there a way to trick an app? - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

On more than one occasion (renting google moves and enterprise email), I have been told I can't use an app because my device is rooted.
Is there a way to "trick" an app into thinking that the device is not rooted so that the app can be used?
P.S. I posted in Dev first but I think its going to be deleted. Well I am pretty sure so I am reposting here.

Does it ask for super user permissions, if so deny them and see if that works.

As far as movies, I think we need source to trick the os.
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Thanks for the replies...
Neither app needs root permissions. They just won't run on rooted devices.
It checks something...anybody have an idea of what it checks?

i m very interest in this too. i nvr root but.it is good if i/can use titanium backup

anyone got some more info on this?
i also need to trick an app into thinkin my device is not rooted

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Should I root my x10i now or wait?

Okay my question is simple, should I root my x10 now or wait for the 2.1 SE update.
Also does anybody have any info about the boot loader, I've seen various posts saying its been cracked, has it? And if not any idea how long before it is?
Thanks
Vengeance
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Wrong section. Anyway... check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747587
Painless root with no flashing.
Happy rooting.
Root is the way forward
Rooted now got bored so I rooted it just waiting for bootloader so I can flash 2.1 or 2.2 on
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Would like to expand a little upon this thread. I am at the same position as OP was, and my only concern is that I heard some apps in the market are not available for rooted phone (instead of the other way around) due to some protection coding. Is that true? Are there any major apps that are particularly note worthy?
snapper.fishes said:
Would like to expand a little upon this thread. I am at the same position as OP was, and my only concern is that I heard some apps in the market are not available for rooted phone (instead of the other way around) due to some protection coding. Is that true? Are there any major apps that are particularly note worthy?
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I haven't had any problems since my root, phone if anything works better, google and download an app called x10 root, this will root your phone without all the fuss. If you want to undo the root install universal androot and unroot it. They are not on the market though.
Hope this helps bud
vengeance
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Beware if you root be careful what you uninstall as some apps eg media and timescape are linked into the functionality of the phone.
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Like above said, be careful what you remove. Titanium backup is what I used. Freeze stuff first to test.
First root I did i killed timescape, gave me no end of problems.
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Huawei Ascend root

I am planning on rooting my GFs Huawei Ascend with this guide:
http://androidforums.com/ascend-all...-step-rooting-instructions-huawei-ascend.html
Now I already have a rooted Evo 4G and I know with that there are risks of bricking. Are there any risks of bricking by doing the steps in that guide? (Cricket version) I plan to freeze all the apps they recommended as well. Or is there any better way to root this?
Use Gingerbreak.apk to root it.
Is there any link for it on XDA? Also why would I use that? Please explain
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I am planning on rooting my GFs Huawei Ascend with this guide:
http://androidforums.com/ascend-all...-step-rooting-instructions-huawei-ascend.html
Now I already have a rooted Evo 4G and I know with that there are risks of bricking. Are there any risks of bricking by doing the steps in that guide? (Cricket version) I plan to freeze all the apps they recommended as well. Or is there any better way to root this?
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there is hardly a chance of bricking your phone by rooting. and i think z4root is the way to go (its easy to use, gets you rooted in under a minute)
What about superoneclick? I was reading it in the thread. It enables third party apps too. I haven't read about any deleted SD cards with z4 though. But I have with soc and Gingerbreak
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DRatJr said:
What about superoneclick? I was reading it in the thread. It enables third party apps too. I haven't read about any deleted SD cards with z4 though. But I have with soc and Gingerbreak
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well all rooting methods do the same thing: they get you rooted. its just that some are easier to do than the others and some work on certain android versions. i recommended z4root because all you have to do is open the app and hit permanent root. for superoneclick, you need to connect your phone to the computer, enable usb debugging, etc (its not much of a hassle, but why not just root on your phone?)
and heres the link for gingerbreak:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Will it enable third party apps like SOC will? and I don't mind doing the extra work, I had to use the long ass method for my evo
Hi guys I'm have been in all ascrnd forum asking why if I'm runnin cyanogenmod7 why I cannot install cm7.2 can somebody help me please
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DRatJr said:
Will it enable third party apps like SOC will? and I don't mind doing the extra work, I had to use the long ass method for my evo
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what is soc?
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Super One Click
what do you mean by enable third party apps? are you talking about installing apps from unknown sources (installing apps not from the market)? if so, then yes. you can do that as long as you're rooted
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Yea and her phone has that option to do so. I guess I will just use Z4 and freeze the apps I can that are safe, and then maybe put a ROM on it, probably not though. Also, is there any chance of data on phone (SDCARD / Contacts) being deleted? I saw in the GB thread or maybe SOC that SD CARD can sometimes get formatted.
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Yea and her phone has that option to do so. I guess I will just use Z4 and freeze the apps I can that are safe, and then maybe put a ROM on it, probably not though. Also, is there any chance of data on phone (SDCARD / Contacts) being deleted? I saw in the GB thread or maybe SOC that SD CARD can sometimes get formatted.
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i think its safe to use z4root. nothing was deleted when I used it
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Okay thanks. You have really been a big help. I'll hit the thanks for ya
DRatJr said:
Okay thanks. You have really been a big help. I'll hit the thanks for ya
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glad i was able to help you

OKAY I AM NOW ROOTED NOW HOW DO i TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT?

I installed Xboarders stock OTA with root and superuser is there so I assume I am rooted. The first thing on my list is to get rid of FU***** car home I have no use for that thing. so how do I do it. If someone can tell me how to do it for general apps that would be great because there are a few that I dont think I want.
Charlie
get root uninstaller btw how are you an |OP| ?
OM I Dont know What is an OP?
So there is a program in the market for it okay cool. Now I noticed that Xboarder included a few things along with the rom that have to be installed seperatly and the lg camera went back to stock so All I have to do is reflash the cammera and any of those tweeks that I might want right? Can I do it all at once or do I have to reboot each time I copy a .zip from my SD card?
And the other thing is I have been using mybackup pro because you didnt need root and it worked like a charm to restore all my apps and data I got titainium pro but do I really need it I noticed that now that I have root mybackup has a few extras for root users.
That brings me to another question what is the Dalvik cache? And should it be wiped. I get the impression it is kinda like RAM is that accurate? Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
That brings me to another question what is the Dalvik cache? And should it be wiped. I get the impression it is kinda like RAM is that accurate? Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
Charlie
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Android applications are basically java apps. Google didn't want to license java from Sun (now Oracle) so they wrote their own compatible version of it in a clean room environment (no intellectual property infringements but Oracle is suing them anyway) and called it "Dalvik." The Dalvik cache is the section of memory used by Android for java processes. Yes, it should be wiped EVERY time you flash a new rom or update any system app as a root user. Not clearing the cache can result in all sorts of problems including lockups, slowdowns and unexpected reboots. Keep in mind that after clearing the Dalvik cache the phone will take about five minutes to start up the first time (will be stuck on the boot screen while it is doing this) to rebuild the Dalvik cache. After the first boot the phone will be back to its incredibly short bootup time on subsequent boots. Do yourself a favor and clear the Dalvik cache.
Well now I see why I need titaium back up I answered my own question it is la multi purpose tool more than just backup. I noticed that you can do some damage if you uninsdtall certian programs I actually read that if you uninstall systerm apps it will stop you from getting any OTA updates in the future. I dont know how true that is anyone know? For now I just froze car home with titainium.
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get root uninstaller btw how are you an |OP| ?
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Because he created the post? lol
And I'd just search around in the Development Section... I recommend CM7 Nightly with the stock Kernel.
So now I downloaded Rom manager and I have some more questions first the first option is to flash cwm recovory didn't I do that already? Second I see an option to backup current rom is that the same as what I did In cwm before I did anything.g else? And if so will it overwrite my current one i ask because I don't want to loose my current one it is my stock backup. Sorry for all the stupid questions but I am really learning
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I can't use oneclick root because of the 2.3.4 update how did u root ur g2x??!!!
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mightymike889 said:
I can't use oneclick root because of the 2.3.4 update how did u root ur g2x??!!!
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How did you get 2.3.4 update? We are on 2.3.3 OTA update right now
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My bad 2.3.3....
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Hey it is really quite simple just flash clockworkmod then flash xboardeds stock ota with root or any ROM that is pre rooted (most are) and boom you are rooted. A quick search in this fourm will tell you
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But that doesn't give u a permanent root ...can use root enabled apps?
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Can we just rename the G2X forums to the "How Do I Get Root" forums?
Yes you Can use apps and the phone is permanently rooted as far as I know I have been usingq things that say you need root and they work fine
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NVFlash isn't impeded by this or any software update so you will always be able to use clockwork to flash new roms, pretty much all of which are rooted.
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And that root is permanent right? That is what I was lead to believe.
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And that root is permanent right? That is what I was lead to believe.
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No. Root exists within the rom; if you change to a non-rooted rom from a rooted one you will lose root. However, unless you specifically go out of your way to unroot, a rooted rom will stay rooted.
Oh, and to answer your earlier question about Rom Manager, it's a totally unnecessary tool. There is nothing it does that you can't do manually from recovery. Ignore that it even exists.
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I thought so it really does seem like there is no real reason for it. I am actually uninstall it.
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I thought so it really does seem like there is no real reason for it. I am actually uninstall it.
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Stay the hell away from ROM Manager...it's dangerous and frankly shouldn't exist at all.
If you want to use CWM, flash it to "real" recovery like you're supposed to.

[Q] Unroot question

Is it possible to unroot your phone without going back to the stock rom? My employer started offering wi-fi but only for unrooted devices. Thank you.
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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Волк said:
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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They do have something that you have to install in order to use the wi-fi service. I hadn't seen anything about hiding root and will do a search on that. Thank you!
Chuck
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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I work for a financial company so everything is extra secure.
I still don't understand why root access to your own device poses a threat so much that your employer doesn't want you connecting to wifi. Either way l, hope someone can help u hide ur super user status or connect to the network anyway
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Because companies like that are paranoid and think you may accidently or on purpose give them a virus, or have them. Android is not affected by a Win32 virus, and it may not even be affected by a regular Linux virus (very unlikely but I don't know tons about the ins and outs on that level).
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Not sure if hiding su would work. A simple app should be able to determine that you have su binary even without gaining access (IMHO).
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Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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xBkKx said:
Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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Thanks everyone. I found a few things that I am going to try and will let you know if any work!
Chuck
So I have an update on this. The app that my employer is using for this is AirWatch. I tried using the Temporary Unroot option in Superuser prior to installing it but my phone still came back as non-compliant. I know that the unroot worked though because ROM Manager told me that the phone needed to be unrooted in order for it to work. I am thinking there may be another app on my phone that it is detecting and thus causing it to say it is out of compliance. I am going to keep researching but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
Chuck
maybe it's detecting any of the apps on your phone that were granted su access....did you deny them SU access before hiding root?
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
chuckbort said:
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
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Can you try a full unroot with super one click and see if that works?
I would have a $500 brick if it weren't for nvflash. Thanks Nvidia!
Thank you again to everyone for your help. We switched to the new plan at T-Mobile and I ended up buying the HTC One. With the offer to trade in my wife's Samsung Exhibit 4G (the I first one) for $100 toward the purchase from HTC I felt it was the right time to upgrade.

[Q] But Will It Be Truly Open?

I just read on CyanogenMod's website that all CM stock ROM's allow the owner of the phone to control whether root access should be granted to an application. Will OnePlus One allow a general user to install a native C++ application that requires root access without hassle?
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I just read on CyanogenMod's website that all CM stock ROM's allow the owner of the phone to control whether root access should be granted to an application. Will OnePlus One allow a general user to install a native C++ application that requires root access without hassle?
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The OnePlus One will be delivered in official state not rooted.
If you want install applications with root requierement then you have to root first your device.
Rooting/flashing/modifiing the software is dangerous by nature so if you damage your phone by doing this no one will replace you it for free and not with warranty.
Rooting/flashing/modifiing your device is okay by OnePlus if you asking cause of warranty but when you damage it cause of rooting its not okay for example when you try overclock with a app.
I tried to explain it simple i hope all will understand and agree this.
There is also a thread in OnePlus One forum if you want take this information from the base just use search engine like always
Cheers
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Judging from the OP's original point it sounds like rooting is a simple on/off feature unless I'm misreading. Or will this be another device that we root the same way as we would any other device?
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Jersey846 said:
Judging from the OP's original point it sounds like rooting is a simple on/off feature unless I'm misreading. Or will this be another device that we root the same way as we would any other device?
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I would think from what I've heard this phone should be as easy to root as a Nexus. It should be basic fastboot oem unlock for the bootloader then you can flash a custom recovery and superuser.
I root my devices, because I usually want to get rid of the unneeded CRAP that comes with most phones.
If OPO or any other mfg delivers a device without the bloat, I doubt I would need to root it.
The main reason I root is for a particular call blocking app that requires root and works on the system level. Main reason.
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I need root at least for Titanium Backup as I'm a flashaholic... and always in need of a full backup of all the important apps I install everytime. But from what I read, it will be possible to choose whether to root or not. About bootloader I don't know. I'm also curious what recovery will be installed... Will they build their own version of CWM? And if yes, will we need to build something else?

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