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[Q] Is there a way to trick an app?

On more than one occasion (renting google moves and enterprise email), I have been told I can't use an app because my device is rooted.
Is there a way to "trick" an app into thinking that the device is not rooted so that the app can be used?
P.S. I posted in Dev first but I think its going to be deleted. Well I am pretty sure so I am reposting here.

Does it ask for super user permissions, if so deny them and see if that works.

As far as movies, I think we need source to trick the os.
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Thanks for the replies...
Neither app needs root permissions. They just won't run on rooted devices.
It checks something...anybody have an idea of what it checks?

i m very interest in this too. i nvr root but.it is good if i/can use titanium backup

anyone got some more info on this?
i also need to trick an app into thinkin my device is not rooted

OKAY I AM NOW ROOTED NOW HOW DO i TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT?

I installed Xboarders stock OTA with root and superuser is there so I assume I am rooted. The first thing on my list is to get rid of FU***** car home I have no use for that thing. so how do I do it. If someone can tell me how to do it for general apps that would be great because there are a few that I dont think I want.
Charlie

get root uninstaller btw how are you an |OP| ?

OM I Dont know What is an OP?

So there is a program in the market for it okay cool. Now I noticed that Xboarder included a few things along with the rom that have to be installed seperatly and the lg camera went back to stock so All I have to do is reflash the cammera and any of those tweeks that I might want right? Can I do it all at once or do I have to reboot each time I copy a .zip from my SD card?
And the other thing is I have been using mybackup pro because you didnt need root and it worked like a charm to restore all my apps and data I got titainium pro but do I really need it I noticed that now that I have root mybackup has a few extras for root users.
That brings me to another question what is the Dalvik cache? And should it be wiped. I get the impression it is kinda like RAM is that accurate? Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
That brings me to another question what is the Dalvik cache? And should it be wiped. I get the impression it is kinda like RAM is that accurate? Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
Charlie
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Android applications are basically java apps. Google didn't want to license java from Sun (now Oracle) so they wrote their own compatible version of it in a clean room environment (no intellectual property infringements but Oracle is suing them anyway) and called it "Dalvik." The Dalvik cache is the section of memory used by Android for java processes. Yes, it should be wiped EVERY time you flash a new rom or update any system app as a root user. Not clearing the cache can result in all sorts of problems including lockups, slowdowns and unexpected reboots. Keep in mind that after clearing the Dalvik cache the phone will take about five minutes to start up the first time (will be stuck on the boot screen while it is doing this) to rebuild the Dalvik cache. After the first boot the phone will be back to its incredibly short bootup time on subsequent boots. Do yourself a favor and clear the Dalvik cache.

Well now I see why I need titaium back up I answered my own question it is la multi purpose tool more than just backup. I noticed that you can do some damage if you uninsdtall certian programs I actually read that if you uninstall systerm apps it will stop you from getting any OTA updates in the future. I dont know how true that is anyone know? For now I just froze car home with titainium.

supersilko said:
get root uninstaller btw how are you an |OP| ?
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Because he created the post? lol
And I'd just search around in the Development Section... I recommend CM7 Nightly with the stock Kernel.

So now I downloaded Rom manager and I have some more questions first the first option is to flash cwm recovory didn't I do that already? Second I see an option to backup current rom is that the same as what I did In cwm before I did anything.g else? And if so will it overwrite my current one i ask because I don't want to loose my current one it is my stock backup. Sorry for all the stupid questions but I am really learning
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I can't use oneclick root because of the 2.3.4 update how did u root ur g2x??!!!
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mightymike889 said:
I can't use oneclick root because of the 2.3.4 update how did u root ur g2x??!!!
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How did you get 2.3.4 update? We are on 2.3.3 OTA update right now
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My bad 2.3.3....
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Hey it is really quite simple just flash clockworkmod then flash xboardeds stock ota with root or any ROM that is pre rooted (most are) and boom you are rooted. A quick search in this fourm will tell you
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But that doesn't give u a permanent root ...can use root enabled apps?
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Can we just rename the G2X forums to the "How Do I Get Root" forums?

Yes you Can use apps and the phone is permanently rooted as far as I know I have been usingq things that say you need root and they work fine
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NVFlash isn't impeded by this or any software update so you will always be able to use clockwork to flash new roms, pretty much all of which are rooted.
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And that root is permanent right? That is what I was lead to believe.

mojorisin7178 said:
And that root is permanent right? That is what I was lead to believe.
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No. Root exists within the rom; if you change to a non-rooted rom from a rooted one you will lose root. However, unless you specifically go out of your way to unroot, a rooted rom will stay rooted.
Oh, and to answer your earlier question about Rom Manager, it's a totally unnecessary tool. There is nothing it does that you can't do manually from recovery. Ignore that it even exists.
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I thought so it really does seem like there is no real reason for it. I am actually uninstall it.

mojorisin7178 said:
I thought so it really does seem like there is no real reason for it. I am actually uninstall it.
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Stay the hell away from ROM Manager...it's dangerous and frankly shouldn't exist at all.
If you want to use CWM, flash it to "real" recovery like you're supposed to.

[Q] Help Unrooting Please

I need some advice, I am considering unrooting because I want to sell my G2x because I am not fond of it anymore. I tried to unroot now, using the unlocker website that works in tandem with this forum. I still see Super User on my phone. I watched the video, and followed every set of the directions. What is going on with my phone?

Why would you want to unroot? I mean the buyer ( if you sell it ) probably wont even know? Just delete superuser
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Hope this helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14159600#post14159600
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This should do it. http://rootuninstaller.com/
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I might be selling it off to one of those websites that buys phones because I found one that might give $180.

SuperUser still shows up as a random APK image, not like the pirate logo. It shows a generic Android icon. I can only freeze super user. The app I downloaded to show root access is present or not says my phone is not rooted. I just am stuck in the LG-P999 Stock Af rom. I don't want Froyo anymore, I prefer going to Gingerbread for the sake of selling my phone.

nviz22 said:
SuperUser still shows up as a random APK image, not like the pirate logo. It shows a generic Android icon. I can only freeze super user. The app I downloaded to show root access is present or not says my phone is not rooted. I just am stuck in the LG-P999 Stock Af rom. I don't want Froyo anymore, I prefer going to Gingerbread for the sake of selling my phone.
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check rom for recovery it will flash you back to stock ota gb 2.3.3 rom.
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[Q] Unroot question

Is it possible to unroot your phone without going back to the stock rom? My employer started offering wi-fi but only for unrooted devices. Thank you.

There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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Волк said:
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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They do have something that you have to install in order to use the wi-fi service. I hadn't seen anything about hiding root and will do a search on that. Thank you!
Chuck

Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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I work for a financial company so everything is extra secure.

I still don't understand why root access to your own device poses a threat so much that your employer doesn't want you connecting to wifi. Either way l, hope someone can help u hide ur super user status or connect to the network anyway
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Because companies like that are paranoid and think you may accidently or on purpose give them a virus, or have them. Android is not affected by a Win32 virus, and it may not even be affected by a regular Linux virus (very unlikely but I don't know tons about the ins and outs on that level).
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Not sure if hiding su would work. A simple app should be able to determine that you have su binary even without gaining access (IMHO).
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Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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xBkKx said:
Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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Thanks everyone. I found a few things that I am going to try and will let you know if any work!
Chuck

So I have an update on this. The app that my employer is using for this is AirWatch. I tried using the Temporary Unroot option in Superuser prior to installing it but my phone still came back as non-compliant. I know that the unroot worked though because ROM Manager told me that the phone needed to be unrooted in order for it to work. I am thinking there may be another app on my phone that it is detecting and thus causing it to say it is out of compliance. I am going to keep researching but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
Chuck

maybe it's detecting any of the apps on your phone that were granted su access....did you deny them SU access before hiding root?

I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.

chuckbort said:
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
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Can you try a full unroot with super one click and see if that works?
I would have a $500 brick if it weren't for nvflash. Thanks Nvidia!

Thank you again to everyone for your help. We switched to the new plan at T-Mobile and I ended up buying the HTC One. With the offer to trade in my wife's Samsung Exhibit 4G (the I first one) for $100 toward the purchase from HTC I felt it was the right time to upgrade.

[Q] Suggestions For Rooting?

Could someone suggest the best (safest) method of rooting my AT&T G3? I've only rooted a couple of phones over the years, so I'm not terribly experienced at this. I don't want to flash any new ROMs or change the phone drastically. I don't even care much about removing bloatware. I'd be happy if I could just remove that stubborn circle clock widget on the lock screen and would really love it if I could restore the FM radio.

rickaysen said:
Could someone suggest the best (safest) method of rooting my AT&T G3? I've only rooted a couple of phones over the years, so I'm not terribly experienced at this. I don't want to flash any new ROMs or change the phone drastically. I don't even care much about removing bloatware. I'd be happy if I could just remove that stubborn circle clock widget on the lock screen and would really love it if I could restore the FM radio.
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IO root (I think that's the name) is simple just enter in two commands
In the adb and that's pretty much it. Also I think the radio is a hardware thing and is only on the D855 international model.
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rickaysen said:
Could someone suggest the best (safest) method of rooting my AT&T G3? I've only rooted a couple of phones over the years, so I'm not terribly experienced at this. I don't want to flash any new ROMs or change the phone drastically. I don't even care much about removing bloatware. I'd be happy if I could just remove that stubborn circle clock widget on the lock screen and would really love it if I could restore the FM radio.
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I'd go with Towel Root. Its unbelievably easy and works perfect. Google towel root and go to the website to download the apk. Once you download and install, open it up and hit "make it rain" then boom your rooted. After that I'd download SuperSU.
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Pure+ said:
I'd go with Towel Root. Its unbelievably easy and works perfect. Google towel root and go to the website to download the apk. Once you download and install, open it up and hit "make it rain" then boom your rooted. After that I'd download SuperSU.
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This. Towelroot is by far the easiest and safest route. Doesn't even have to reboot the phone. IT JUST WORKS

Curious, I'm relatively a newbie, after Towel Root method and the phone is rooted what benefits are gained? For example, Is it possible after rooting to install an app for Hotspotting?
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Alienuser said:
Curious, I'm relatively a newbie, after Towel Root method and the phone is rooted what benefits are gained? For example, Is it possible after rooting to install an app for Hotspotting?
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After root you will will be able to download apps and tweaks that would require root to run. Its like having full access to your phone and files. Like having admin rights I guess. I'm not sure about hotspot.
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jasvncnt1 said:
After root you will will be able to download apps and tweaks that would require root to run. Its like having full access to your phone and files. Like having admin rights I guess. I'm not sure about hotspot.
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Thanks for the tips everyone.
About hot spots. I rooted my G2 and was able to tether whereas before, AT&T prevented this function unless I paid extra.
Not sure I want t o do it at this point because the risk/benefit isn't worth it for me. This phone has so much storage that the bloatware isn't an issue and I never really tethered as much as I thought I would. Too bad about the FM radio. Regaining that function would persuade me.