[Q] false root status? - General Questions and Answers

I have a next book 7 premium, serial starting with yfg, android is 4.0.4. I have not rooted this device but superuser and root checker seem to show t as rooted. Does this model come rooted or is it possible that I am getting a false root status?

Try installing titanium back or busybox, if you get is that it is rooted

What's the importance of busybox??
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Mohamed Khaled Mk said:
What's the importance of busybox??
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Busybox is simply a linux script/tool containing a bunch of mainstream commands allowing for simple commandline actions. Usually those are only accessed by the system and some root apps, so in general i'd recommend to keep the one bundled with your rom since that's the one it's meant to use. Some apps like titanium backup might require a newer one though.
Some links to get your doubts:
01. androidforums.com/ally-all-things-root/235909-what-busybox.html
02. http://forum.xda-developers.comshowthread.php?t=1248706
03. richweb.com/node/177
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uxorial said:
I have a next book 7 premium, serial starting with yfg, android is 4.0.4. I have not rooted this device but superuser and root checker seem to show t as rooted. Does this model come rooted or is it possible that I am getting a false root status?
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some phones do come rooted
eg. my sis's HTC explorer -pico

Well busy box installed no problems. So if I have root has anyone found any custom roms yet cuz as far as I know if I brick the stock rom isn't available but I really want to take advantage of my root

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Should I root my x10i now or wait?

Okay my question is simple, should I root my x10 now or wait for the 2.1 SE update.
Also does anybody have any info about the boot loader, I've seen various posts saying its been cracked, has it? And if not any idea how long before it is?
Thanks
Vengeance
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Wrong section. Anyway... check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747587
Painless root with no flashing.
Happy rooting.
Root is the way forward
Rooted now got bored so I rooted it just waiting for bootloader so I can flash 2.1 or 2.2 on
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Would like to expand a little upon this thread. I am at the same position as OP was, and my only concern is that I heard some apps in the market are not available for rooted phone (instead of the other way around) due to some protection coding. Is that true? Are there any major apps that are particularly note worthy?
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Would like to expand a little upon this thread. I am at the same position as OP was, and my only concern is that I heard some apps in the market are not available for rooted phone (instead of the other way around) due to some protection coding. Is that true? Are there any major apps that are particularly note worthy?
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I haven't had any problems since my root, phone if anything works better, google and download an app called x10 root, this will root your phone without all the fuss. If you want to undo the root install universal androot and unroot it. They are not on the market though.
Hope this helps bud
vengeance
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Beware if you root be careful what you uninstall as some apps eg media and timescape are linked into the functionality of the phone.
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Like above said, be careful what you remove. Titanium backup is what I used. Freeze stuff first to test.
First root I did i killed timescape, gave me no end of problems.
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Using Time Warner Cable TV app & online Banking on I997 running ICS

I am new & this is my first post. I have spent all weekend reading these forums and installing mods - GB & ICS. What I would like... is to be able to use Time Warner Cable 's TV app for Droid which allows me to watch cable TV and manage my DVR *and* use my Online Banking app to deposit checks. Both these require that the device not be rooted and TWC TV requires ICS. Is there a way to unroot an ICS ROM that is currently on my rooted phone - while still keeping all the themes/apps etc that the rooted MOD gives me (except SU,) and if so, how do you recommend I go about doing this? (It doesn't appear that using something like OneClick is going to do this for me.) I have gone from Froyo to rooted GB, Infinitum's ICS 1.1.1, then to UCLB3-CWM and would like to try ICS again...
Is there a way to take a ICS mod and install it in such a way that it appears as UNrooted stock ICS yet keeps the perks (except SU) ?
Thanks for your time and thoughts... Jami
Welcome... there is not any way to be unrooted and have ics on the infuse at the same time. Sorry, I know that is not the answer you were wanting to hear. Regards.
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Actually...I think it is possible to have an unrooted ics Rom...most have it built in already but what gives the Rom root is "Su" and "superuser"
1) Get a Rom
2) Open it up with 7zip or another archive program
3) go to /system/xbin and delete the file named "Su"
4) go to /system/apps and delete the apk named "superuser"
5) put the modified Rom on your phone (I say modified cause you deleted two files)
6) flash like normal in recovery...follow instructions from the Roms op
If my theory is correct you should now be on ics with out root...ill be getting my infuse any minute now (or hour...) And ill be able to test it myself if you don't want to...you do risk getting bootloops by deleting the above files...you may also lose some of the ics Roms functions...
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mg2195 said:
Actually...I think it is possible to have an unrooted ics Rom...most have it built in already but what gives the Rom root is "Su" and "superuser"
1) Get a Rom
2) Open it up with 7zip or another archive program
3) go to /system/xbin and delete the file named "Su"
4) go to /system/apps and delete the apk named "superuser"
5) put the modified Rom on your phone (I say modified cause you deleted two files)
6) flash like normal in recovery...follow instructions from the Roms op
If my theory is correct you should now be on ics with out root...ill be getting my infuse any minute now (or hour...) And ill be able to test it myself if you don't want to...you do risk getting bootloops by deleting the above files...you may also lose some of the ics Roms functions...
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Theory appears sound and correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like the OP wants the functionality of a phone that is both rooted (TWC app) and unrooted (all other apps mods themes that require root)...not simply unrooted ICS.
It appears to me that a choice needs to be made between running rooted for one app or unrooted for everything else the OP wants.
There is another thread floating around here on the Infuse board about the TWC app requiring an unrooted phone. I saw it few days ago...someone there may have found a solution.
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Thanks MG- it was the likely loss of some functionality that would not allow the 2 apps that she wants to perform, was the reason for my answer. I hope you are right, although I will feel terrible about giving someone a wrong answer.
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I know the newest version of superuser has an option to temporary unroot. Not sure if this would work for the apps you are asking about but I'm assuming it was added for situations like this.
You just open the app and swipe over to the info tab, which is on the fat left I believe. Then there is a check box for temp unroot.
Hope this helps bc it would def be the easiest solution.
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I have SU v.94 on a custom rom on my SGS3 and there is an option to cleanup for permanent unroot. Don' t see anything about temp unroot but then I may be on a different version than you are speaking of.
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SuperSU and I think superuser both have options to disable root. If its a Cyanogen based ROM, there's another option to disable root in the settings menu.
Root ≠ custom ROM
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Pony Express said:
I have SU v.94 on a custom rom on my SGS3 and there is an option to cleanup for permanent unroot. Don' t see anything about temp unroot but then I may be on a different version than you are speaking of.
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When I go to the app info of Superuser, it says version 3.2. I am on jb tho so that may b the difference. I'm using the version that came with CM10.
Thought the option was there on the newest version when I was on ics too tho but not 100% sure.
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Another option is the app "OTA Root Keeper".
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Well...if you want, I can make a flashable root package...as in all that will be flashed is su and superuser...re-enabling root, so you could delete both su and superuser with a root file explorer when you need unroot and when you need root just flash the root package...kinda time consuming and a pain if your gonna be using those apps often...but its an option...
But yeah, the disable root option is available in my htc vivids superuser which is running ics...so try that first, or some of the other listed suggestions...
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Just confirming what benbos_06 posted. I'm running superuser 3.1.3 and there is a temporary unroot option there.
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Smokestack360 said:
Just confirming what benbos_06 posted. I'm running superuser 3.1.3 and there is a temporary unroot option there.
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Yea, this is Chainfire's CWM with Super SU
It would be too easy if it were all the same :laugh:
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atoa said:
Another option is the app "OTA Root Keeper".
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Interesting.. good find / may be workable for OP's needs.
Wow - thanks for all the replies!
Given all the advice, and considering my options - I think the way to go is to see if I can use a stock ICS rom (if that exisits - un mod'ed) on my Infuse. So I'll forgo the extras of a mod but I will be able to get the TWC TV app & the Banking functionality I want. Thanks to Smokestack's comment I did some more poking around and found a link to the hacked TWC TV apk for rooted phones and tablets in case anyone's interested. That's nice but it only gets me half way there.
Would anyone like to recommend a stock or almost stock ICS that I can use for my Infuse? Then I will take MG2195 directions and put them to the test Thanks, Jami
that's a kind offer but I'm hoping to either find a rom without SU or one I can turn SU off entirely on.
mg2195 said:
Well...if you want, I can make a flashable root package...as in all that will be flashed is su and superuser...re-enabling root, so you could delete both su and superuser with a root file explorer when you need unroot and when you need root just flash the root package...kinda time consuming and a pain if your gonna be using those apps often...but its an option...
But yeah, the disable root option is available in my htc vivids superuser which is running ics...so try that first, or some of the other listed suggestions...
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jami.francis said:
Given all the advice, and considering my options - I think the way to go is to see if I can use a stock ICS rom (if that exisits - un mod'ed) on my Infuse. So I'll forgo the extras of a mod but I will be able to get the TWC TV app & the Banking functionality I want. Thanks to Smokestack's comment I did some more poking around and found a link to the hacked TWC TV apk for rooted phones and tablets in case anyone's interested. That's nice but it only gets me half way there.
Would anyone like to recommend a stock or almost stock ICS that I can use for my Infuse? Then I will take MG2195 directions and put them to the test Thanks, Jami
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Most everyone will have their favorite and all that I have flashed have been good. The one, imho, that seems most stable is Entropy512's build, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601844
Try 3 or 4 and you, too will have a favorite.

[Q] Unroot question

Is it possible to unroot your phone without going back to the stock rom? My employer started offering wi-fi but only for unrooted devices. Thank you.
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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Волк said:
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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They do have something that you have to install in order to use the wi-fi service. I hadn't seen anything about hiding root and will do a search on that. Thank you!
Chuck
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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I work for a financial company so everything is extra secure.
I still don't understand why root access to your own device poses a threat so much that your employer doesn't want you connecting to wifi. Either way l, hope someone can help u hide ur super user status or connect to the network anyway
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Because companies like that are paranoid and think you may accidently or on purpose give them a virus, or have them. Android is not affected by a Win32 virus, and it may not even be affected by a regular Linux virus (very unlikely but I don't know tons about the ins and outs on that level).
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Not sure if hiding su would work. A simple app should be able to determine that you have su binary even without gaining access (IMHO).
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Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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xBkKx said:
Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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Thanks everyone. I found a few things that I am going to try and will let you know if any work!
Chuck
So I have an update on this. The app that my employer is using for this is AirWatch. I tried using the Temporary Unroot option in Superuser prior to installing it but my phone still came back as non-compliant. I know that the unroot worked though because ROM Manager told me that the phone needed to be unrooted in order for it to work. I am thinking there may be another app on my phone that it is detecting and thus causing it to say it is out of compliance. I am going to keep researching but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
Chuck
maybe it's detecting any of the apps on your phone that were granted su access....did you deny them SU access before hiding root?
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
chuckbort said:
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
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Can you try a full unroot with super one click and see if that works?
I would have a $500 brick if it weren't for nvflash. Thanks Nvidia!
Thank you again to everyone for your help. We switched to the new plan at T-Mobile and I ended up buying the HTC One. With the offer to trade in my wife's Samsung Exhibit 4G (the I first one) for $100 toward the purchase from HTC I felt it was the right time to upgrade.

[Q] But Will It Be Truly Open?

I just read on CyanogenMod's website that all CM stock ROM's allow the owner of the phone to control whether root access should be granted to an application. Will OnePlus One allow a general user to install a native C++ application that requires root access without hassle?
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I just read on CyanogenMod's website that all CM stock ROM's allow the owner of the phone to control whether root access should be granted to an application. Will OnePlus One allow a general user to install a native C++ application that requires root access without hassle?
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The OnePlus One will be delivered in official state not rooted.
If you want install applications with root requierement then you have to root first your device.
Rooting/flashing/modifiing the software is dangerous by nature so if you damage your phone by doing this no one will replace you it for free and not with warranty.
Rooting/flashing/modifiing your device is okay by OnePlus if you asking cause of warranty but when you damage it cause of rooting its not okay for example when you try overclock with a app.
I tried to explain it simple i hope all will understand and agree this.
There is also a thread in OnePlus One forum if you want take this information from the base just use search engine like always
Cheers
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Judging from the OP's original point it sounds like rooting is a simple on/off feature unless I'm misreading. Or will this be another device that we root the same way as we would any other device?
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Jersey846 said:
Judging from the OP's original point it sounds like rooting is a simple on/off feature unless I'm misreading. Or will this be another device that we root the same way as we would any other device?
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I would think from what I've heard this phone should be as easy to root as a Nexus. It should be basic fastboot oem unlock for the bootloader then you can flash a custom recovery and superuser.
I root my devices, because I usually want to get rid of the unneeded CRAP that comes with most phones.
If OPO or any other mfg delivers a device without the bloat, I doubt I would need to root it.
The main reason I root is for a particular call blocking app that requires root and works on the system level. Main reason.
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I need root at least for Titanium Backup as I'm a flashaholic... and always in need of a full backup of all the important apps I install everytime. But from what I read, it will be possible to choose whether to root or not. About bootloader I don't know. I'm also curious what recovery will be installed... Will they build their own version of CWM? And if yes, will we need to build something else?

Non Rooted Roms For TAB2 10.1? Lollipop or later

Hi just flashed MM to my Tab 2 but even though I love the speed of it Sky Q app will not work on it as it wont run on rooted devices even on a device which has root but root is disabled.
So, looking for a rom that is better than the stock but does not have any root stuff on it that sky q is detecting, (apparently a common problem with this app)
Any help would be appreciated as want a newer rom but need sky q to work but so many varietys of roms around don't know where to start.
Thanks
Have you tired using supersu's unroot option to see if it can remove what that sky app is looking for?
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Have you tired using supersu's unroot option to see if it can remove what that sky app is looking for?
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Yeah, if you don't have SuperSu, get it off the Playstore. Open the app, tap settings and you will get an option which says Enable SuperUser. Turn that off and root is gone until you turn it back on
I think all custom roms come rooted. See if unrooting will fix it.
omni and aosp comes unrooted

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