Wireless Charging while using USB-OTG - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I guys, today I tried to Wireless Charge while using the USB-OTG to copy some files (practically, it makes sense for me, since there is no need to connect the cable to the Nexus, we could be using that port to USB-OTG and charge at the same time).
I was surprised when it didn't work. I can't understand why would they implement this. Since it's not charging from cable, it could be charging by wireless...
It's not a defect from mine, right?
Anyway, thanks for your attention.
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bixorastexante said:
I guys, today I tried to Wireless Charge while using the USB-OTG to copy some files (practically, it makes sense for me, since there is no need to connect the cable to the Nexus, we could be using that port to USB-OTG and charge at the same time).
I was surprised when it didn't work. I can't understand why would they implement this. Since it's not charging from cable, it could be charging by wireless...
It's not a defect from mine, right?
Anyway, thanks for your attention.
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It's not a defect. You need a custom kernel that supports Qi Charging while using USB OTG if you want that.

Are you sure it's a kernel limitation? Do you know any that supports it?
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bixorastexante said:
Are you sure it's a kernel limitation? Do you know any that supports it?
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May not be a hardware limitation. But probably a very low priority for implementation

One way I've try to offset this limitation is to plug my OTG cable into a powered USB hub. All attached USB devices use the hub for power greatly reducing the battery drain on the phone/tablet.
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Charging Cable

Hey,
I am out of town and I unfortunately forgot my charging cable back home, I have 10 more days here and I have very important work related stuff that I absolutely require. Anyway I can charge ? Or buying a cable remains the only option ?
Thanx in advance
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As far as I'm aware you need a Samsung tablet cable or connector. I don't believe the Note 10.1 has any sort of wireless charging capabilities built-in, and even if it did you'd need a proper wireless charger.
Echo237 said:
Hey,
I am out of town and I unfortunately forgot my charging cable back home, I have 10 more days here and I have very important work related stuff that I absolutely require. Anyway I can charge ? Or buying a cable remains the only option ?
Thanx in advance
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As far I am aware if you have a keyboard dock you will be able to charge your tab but other than that buying is your only option
W1nst0n said:
As far I am aware if you have a keyboard dock you will be able to charge your tab but other than that buying is your only option
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No I don't, I asked a colleague to courier it though
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Do all Sammy tablets use the same connector?
More specifically the note 10.1 and the tab 2?
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The same cable charges the tab (7 & 10), tab2 7 and note 10.1. I've had all those and kept the same spare cables.
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External HD

I picked up a one point five terabyte Seagate drive for 90 bucks from Costco last week mainly for my lappy but I was wondering is there a way to physically hook it to my tab?FTP is of course what I've been using but what about when there's no wifi?
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This is what you want: http://dx.com/p/usb-otg-adapter-cab...10-1-gt-n8000-galaxy-tab-2-p5100-black-154407
Thanks a million!
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CalInTheZone said:
This is what you want: http://dx.com/p/usb-otg-adapter-cab...10-1-gt-n8000-galaxy-tab-2-p5100-black-154407
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Are all 30-pin USB connectors created equally, or is an OTG cable different?
They are different. OTG has ground and sense shortened.
If your drive is powered from USB beware that this will not work. Drive must be externally powered.
CalInTheZone said:
They are different. OTG has ground and sense shortened.
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Thanks. Sorry - what do you mean "sense"?
Maybe a USB splitter?
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Micro USB has a pin called sense.
Swyped on my Galaxy Note 10.1
Im using an powered USB-4port Hub over the OTG with my Note 10.1.. I'm able to use my 2TB USB HD without any issues
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Micro USB has a pin called sense.
Swyped on my Galaxy Note 10.1
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Thanks.
xX_Nexus_Xx said:
Im using an powered USB-4port Hub over the OTG with my Note 10.1.. I'm able to use my 2TB USB HD without any issues
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Where to get powered one, and is it powered by a charger or a battery
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Powered USB charger
hoss_n2 said:
Where to get powered one, and is it powered by a charger or a battery
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I got a cheap powered USB hub from Amazon (like http://www.amazon.co.uk/BG-Network-...35?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1354711206&sr=1-35) and it works fine ... just ensure you are taking a charger with sufficiant power to support your HD!

usb OTG ??? do i have to throw my nexus s

hi every body
i will be very thankful if anybody can help me
today i get a usb OTG cable and i was very excited to try on my nexus s but i was very disappointed that even if i have a custom kernel that supports usb OTG i have to support externel power supply along with the cable which make all the process of > on the go < .. absolute not on the go ..
later when searching i found a video for nexus 4 i guess having usb with really on the go mode i.e. without 20 meters of cable extended along the room to the wall..
is there a way to make this work on the nexus s .?
ahmadalraii said:
hi every body
i will be very thankful if anybody can help me
today i get a usb OTG cable and i was very excited to try on my nexus s but i was very disappointed that even if i have a custom kernel that supports usb OTG i have to support externel power supply along with the cable which make all the process of > on the go < .. absolute not on the go ..
later when searching i found a video for nexus 4 i guess having usb with really on the go mode i.e. without 20 meters of cable extended along the room to the wall..
is there a way to make this work on the nexus s .?
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Alas, our NS doesn't support OTG
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ozone89 said:
Alas, our NS doesn't support OTG
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But there's a video on YouTube showing ns with otg just fine
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superng888 said:
But there's a video on YouTube showing ns with otg just fine
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the one in the video has external power supply...this is the whole spirit of * on the go * to stay connected to a computer ..lol
ozone89 said:
Alas, our NS doesn't support OTG
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why many nexus s kernels include the usb OTG drivers ??
glados
matrx
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USB host and MHL?

Hi. I thought this phone was advertised as having USB on the go / USB Host features. Were they removed in Jelly Bean or were they never there?
I tried USB OTG cable with a flash drive and go another, as well as an externally powered hard drive. I tried a 5-pin MHL adapter (Rocketfish RF-G1171 from eBay) and had no luck. I haven't used an MHL device before bit tried many times. My TV can see MHL is connected so it seems the adapter is working. And there's an HDMI audio setting under ACCESSORY in the phone settings. I don't have another MHL adapter to test or another MHL device to test with.
Again, has this stuff worked before? Do I need new adapters? Do I need to downgrade?
ralphwiggum1 said:
Hi. I thought this phone was advertised as having USB on the go / USB Host features. Were they removed in Jelly Bean or were they never there?
I tried USB OTG cable with a flash drive and go another, as well as an externally powered hard drive. I tried a 5-pin MHL adapter (Rocketfish RF-G1171 from eBay) and had no luck. I haven't used an MHL device before bit tried many times. My TV can see MHL is connected so it seems the adapter is working. And there's an HDMI audio setting under ACCESSORY in the phone settings. I don't have another MHL adapter to test or another MHL device to test with.
Again, has this stuff worked before? Do I need new adapters? Do I need to downgrade?
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What ROM you using?
Cm9 had video no sound.
Cm10.1 no luck so far.
Can't remember for stock
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This is on stock Jelly Bean. Should either be working? Did it work on stock ICS?
ralphwiggum1 said:
This is on stock Jelly Bean. Should either be working? Did it work on stock ICS?
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That's lame it doesn't work on stock JB either.
Vaguely remember with stock ICS - though if I remember correctly MHL did work to some degree on stock ICS.
Some devices do have MHL &/or USB host working on CM10.1, just not us (yet )
MHL, USB Host & Wifi-Direct (screen share) are 3 killah features, all of which still need ironing out for the Relay.
However the devs at work on the Relay have acknowledged these as 'nice to have' features & will not come about any time soon unfortunately.
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Maybe I should start accepting donations lol. I'll work on otg and mhl if I had the connectors.
Come to think of it, I need a USB audio dock too
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just dropping by to say that officially relay supports MHL but not OTG. connecting an OTG cable on stock rom makes the system go derp and prevents MHL from working until reboot
Will chromecast work with the relay?
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Chromecast is not a p2p device. As such, it streams from the cloud, so device compatibility is not an issue for it. Also, it's been tested by teferi and infernix and myself
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Also I wasn't kidding. Get me an MHL cable and OTG and I'll support it on Cyanogenmod. I've never asked for donations before, but you can paypal me at my name at gmail dot com.
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Nardholio said:
Chromecast is not a p2p device. As such, it streams from the cloud, so device compatibility is not an issue for it. Also, it's been tested by teferi and infernix and myself
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Also I wasn't kidding. Get me an MHL cable and OTG and I'll support it on Cyanogenmod. I've never asked for donations before, but you can paypal me at my name at gmail dot com.
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Dude, determine the FULL cost for the MHL and OTG devices and I will send you paypal ASAP.
Let's do thissss
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@dilladale About $20 on Amazon should about do it.
Nardholio said:
@dilladale About $20 on Amazon should about do it.
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Just sent $25.
Keep us posted
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Mhl works fine on last 10.1 nightly. Just used yesterday.
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chuckiev79 said:
Mhl works fine on last 10.1 nightly. Just used yesterday.
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Oh sh!t. That's sick.
I've been on July 11th build for quite some time, because of its sheer stability and battery preservation.
Will test MHL when return this weekend. Else will favour for a latest nightly to trial the MHL capability you've mentioned.
So your getting crisp video and sound? No gimmicks?
:thumbup:
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It seems OK. Don't think sound code was altered after it was finally fixed. Not sure though. As for video I watch stuff on Google play and seems perfect, don't take very many videos with relay camera, so can't comment on that.
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If it already works, awesome, we fixed it without even being aware of it. My shipment from Amazon is coming today in any case, thanks dilladale.
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Nardholio said:
If it already works, awesome, we fixed it without even being aware of it. My shipment from Amazon is coming today in any case, thanks dilladale.
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No probs dude.
How about the USB OTG cable, manage to get hold of that too?
Can't wait to trial MHL when back from this trip.
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I'm not having much luck with either OTG or MHL. OTG appears to be registering properly in the kernel but userspace isn't doing anything. MHL appears to be registering incorrectly. I'm going to send my off brand cable back and get the official Samsung one.
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Nardholio said:
I'm not having much luck with either OTG or MHL. OTG appears to be registering properly in the kernel but userspace isn't doing anything. MHL appears to be registering incorrectly. I'm going to send my off brand cable back and get the official Samsung one.
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from my experience, all mhl 1.0 adapters are the same (same silicon image chip)... so unless yours is defective it won't make a difference... tried to reboot the phone and just plug in the mhl adapter without plugging anything into the usb port before that?
edit: unless you bought the galaxy s3 compatible version that uses a 11 pin micro usb connector... our phone doesnt have that, it needs the 5 pin version (galaxy s2 compatible)
bump for this? Any progress nard?
Thanks for all your hard work!
Erik

[Q] Usb OTG maximum storage?

Hey guys, im planning on buying an usb stick and of course i will use it on my nexus 5 too. I am thinking of this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AXWOLO6/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers
But i don't know if 64 gb is supported by Usb OTG, has someone tried or can try and come back to me?
Edit: It worked, if anyone is wondering.
Dakura said:
Hey guys, im planning on buying an usb stick and of course i will use it on my nexus 5 too. I am thinking of this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AXWOLO6/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers
But i don't know if 64 gb is supported by Usb OTG, has someone tried or can try and come back to me?
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My 64 gig micro works fine with Meenova. Should be the same for a stick.
people connect terabyte drives through usb otg. you fine with whatever you got man
I have tried to connect my portable hard drive to my nexus, it shows the drive in the file system but it didn't show the folders,I also can't write anything to it, keeps giving me errors, anyone have a clue?
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ckavvouras said:
I have tried to connect my portable hard drive to my nexus, it shows the drive in the file system but it didn't show the folders,I also can't write anything to it, keeps giving me errors, anyone have a clue?
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How are you powering the harddrive?
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Via its usb 3.0 connection, there is no way to connect an additional power source, it's a portable drive so there is no additional power source
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ckavvouras said:
Via its usb 3.0 connection, there is no way to connect an additional power source, it's a portable drive so there is no additional power source
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Ok. Its just that unlike Samsung galaxy s3 (onwards) the nexus 5 cannot power mechanical drives through its USB host port. I expect you'd need a powered USB hub to power and use a mechanical drive.
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rootSU said:
Ok. Its just that unlike Samsung galaxy s3 (onwards) the nexus 5 cannot power mechanical drives through its USB host port. I expect you'd need a powered USB hub to power and use a mechanical drive.
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Ah ok that kinda sucks, I thought maybe it wasn't formatted properly and it was having trouble reading the file system or something.
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Would a third party Rom like cyanogen make the drive work? Or is it a hardware issue?
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Hardware as far as I know. The S3 was the first that could do this without external power. Not all devices follow suit. Mechanical parts require a lot of power compared to flash
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So any size usb stick or a external drive with its own power source. I'm using a 128gb stick.
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I can't say if there's a limit on mechanical drives or not.
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I can't say if there's a limit on mechanical drives or not.
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Hi, which kernel support USB OTG? Thanks
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Its built-in all ready. After rooting all you need is an app like stickmount. Or if you change rom most of them have the software you need allready in there.
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rootSU said:
How are you powering the harddrive?
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Is your drive in NTSF format? Android only recognizes FAT32. Try a drive formatted as FAT32 and see what happens.
I am using my 1TB WD harddrive(ntfs).
It works fine with StickMount. I never needed external power source.
But it eats the battery extremely fast at almost 1%-2% per minute.
But the USB-Y cable should work fine for powering usb hard drive.
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Is your drive in NTSF format? Android only recognizes FAT32. Try a drive formatted as FAT32 and see what happens.
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@yuepc000 - I don't have a drive.

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