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Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
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MN_Evolution said:
Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
-D
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If any important data is in those folders, you should save them on your computer. For example, pictures in DCIM folder, music, videos.... or documents that you created..
While creating the gold card, the sd card will be formatted and you will lose all data.
After the phone is rooted, you can then format the card using the phone's "Format SD card" tool, and then use the card as normal.
All those folders will be recreated once those apps are installed.
Edit: Also, if you look in the Dev's section, there are tools that will help you with the whole process of rooting your phone.
Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
MN_Evolution said:
Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
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Use a proxy site to be able to watch the video at your work place. Something like this --> http://www.proxeasy.com/webclient.aspx EDIT: Scratch that... This proxy site doesn't allow flash content unless you subscribe. Sorry. You can try other proxy sites
The inspire is my second android phone. I had the captivate and it was very easy to root. Prior to the captivate, I had the eyephone. So glad I went with an android phone. Sick and tired of the same UI with iphones.
Although the entire rooting process for the inspire seems overwhelming, it's actually pretty straight forward when you follow the instructions.
I haven't heard anyone "bricking" their inspire yet and if you get stuck in the rooting process, search the forums and you will most likely find your solution.
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
MN_Evolution said:
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
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I used the hack kit. Went ok. Had some slight issue when i tried to use a 1GB SD card that apparently is too small for a gold card. So, then I decided to just use the SD card that came with the phone and all went well!
I also have to agree with hating itunes... They keep cramming useless features and just makes the whole user experience a little less interesting.
Im glad that with android devices, you don't need any specific program to sync your stuff to the phone... Just plug in and done!
Hi forum!!
I've been a happy Samsung Galaxy I9003 owner for a while now, and I've always come to this forum for reference on any issues encountered. But right now I have an issue i'm having a hard time understanding, and it's quite a mistery.
Everything started when I downloaded the new Gingerbread update. The phone was wonderful, worked perfectly, but it had one little issue. I left it one night, and the morning after when i picked it up i saw that it was prompting for the initial data (language, use 3G-Wifi, etc). I completed the form once more, and it was back to factory...but in a weird way. Contacts were gone, SMS were gone, APNs were gone, WiFis were gone...but my apps were still there! They were even ordered alphabetically in the menu! Weird, really weird...Background was back to the factory one, icons on the main desktop were back to factory ones, ringtones were back to factory ones. But all my app configurations were still there, emails, gmail, market, corporate email...it was all there.
I discarded this as an issue with the Gingerbread ROM i installed (from Kkrraazzyy's post, the last one), so I downgraded to Froyo once more. Now, why would I ever want to do that?
Idiot me did not look into what version I was running. So I tried the version i remembered I had installed. Worked nice, installed nice...but....next morning...SAME ISSUE! Once more the initial configuration and the same thing...no APNs, no SMS, no Contacts, no nothing, but apps and configs, purrfect!
Now, what I did was move to other Froyo images thinking that I might have gotten the wrong one. I discarded 4 or 5 of them, with different things not working on my phone exactly.
So, after a bit of debating with myself, I decided to upgrade to another GB, but not the final version, a previous one. When i connected it to Samsung Kies, to restore my backup, Kies greeted me with a "I've got a new firmware for your phone...do you wish to upgrade?". I thought "Why not? Maybe if the Samsung software is performing the upgrade, then it might work, considering that i wouldn't be intervening and possibly not interfering with it. So it upgraded, took a considerable amount of time in comparison to ODIN, but it went through.
How did it go? Smooth as silk...everything was wonderful! Apps worked, hardware worked, phone run well...backup went in perfectly...i was so happy! Last night I was watching a movie with it, it was great! So i went to sleep with a happy smile on my muzzle, only to wake up this morning and find the phone with....THE FRIGGIN' START FORM ONCE MORE!! FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!
Once more, no APNs, no SMS, no Contacts, no WiFi, no nothing!!! Back to factory partially!
So now i'm thinking...firmware is out of the question...is there any chance there might be something physically wrong with my phone by now?? Something like...I don't know...I haven't got the slightest idea. So i'm open to ideas about what this might be about..
Oh, a colorful note...don't know if it has something to do, but i consider it sporty to let you know about it. A weird thing about a Froyo version i installed, was that when you woke up the phone, it would show a red sign on the top saying "Internal SD memory removed". I was truly shocked since I thought that the internal memory could not be removed without the phone crashing. But well, i just discarded that data at the time as an issue with the image.
Ideas, anyone? If not, i'm guessing i'll just place it under my car, ran it over, and get another with the insurance...
I think I heared such problem once a time. Try in this way
1. flash kpe with all 4 files
2. flash kpm single file as pda file.
3. do factory reset
if it solve ur problem then its better for u. But if u still face internal sd card error problem then straight way flash stock firmware which is available in ur country & go to samsung center & tell them that suddenly this problem is occured. Dont tell them that u have ever flashed anything on it.
CollieDawg said:
Hi forum!!
I've been a happy Samsung Galaxy I9003 owner for a while now, and I've always come to this forum for reference on any issues encountered. But right now I have an issue i'm having a hard time understanding, and it's quite a mistery.
Everything started when I downloaded the new Gingerbread update. The phone was wonderful, worked perfectly, but it had one little issue. I left it one night, and the morning after when i picked it up i saw that it was prompting for the initial data (language, use 3G-Wifi, etc). I completed the form once more, and it was back to factory...but in a weird way. Contacts were gone, SMS were gone, APNs were gone, WiFis were gone...but my apps were still there! They were even ordered alphabetically in the menu! Weird, really weird...Background was back to the factory one, icons on the main desktop were back to factory ones, ringtones were back to factory ones. But all my app configurations were still there, emails, gmail, market, corporate email...it was all there.
I discarded this as an issue with the Gingerbread ROM i installed (from Kkrraazzyy's post, the last one), so I downgraded to Froyo once more. Now, why would I ever want to do that?
Idiot me did not look into what version I was running. So I tried the version i remembered I had installed. Worked nice, installed nice...but....next morning...SAME ISSUE! Once more the initial configuration and the same thing...no APNs, no SMS, no Contacts, no nothing, but apps and configs, purrfect!
Now, what I did was move to other Froyo images thinking that I might have gotten the wrong one. I discarded 4 or 5 of them, with different things not working on my phone exactly.
So, after a bit of debating with myself, I decided to upgrade to another GB, but not the final version, a previous one. When i connected it to Samsung Kies, to restore my backup, Kies greeted me with a "I've got a new firmware for your phone...do you wish to upgrade?". I thought "Why not? Maybe if the Samsung software is performing the upgrade, then it might work, considering that i wouldn't be intervening and possibly not interfering with it. So it upgraded, took a considerable amount of time in comparison to ODIN, but it went through.
How did it go? Smooth as silk...everything was wonderful! Apps worked, hardware worked, phone run well...backup went in perfectly...i was so happy! Last night I was watching a movie with it, it was great! So i went to sleep with a happy smile on my muzzle, only to wake up this morning and find the phone with....THE FRIGGIN' START FORM ONCE MORE!! FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!
Once more, no APNs, no SMS, no Contacts, no WiFi, no nothing!!! Back to factory partially!
So now i'm thinking...firmware is out of the question...is there any chance there might be something physically wrong with my phone by now?? Something like...I don't know...I haven't got the slightest idea. So i'm open to ideas about what this might be about..
Oh, a colorful note...don't know if it has something to do, but i consider it sporty to let you know about it. A weird thing about a Froyo version i installed, was that when you woke up the phone, it would show a red sign on the top saying "Internal SD memory removed". I was truly shocked since I thought that the internal memory could not be removed without the phone crashing. But well, i just discarded that data at the time as an issue with the image.
Ideas, anyone? If not, i'm guessing i'll just place it under my car, ran it over, and get another with the insurance...
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Did you solved the problem??? I am having the same problem and I tried with some firmwares too.
vishal24387 said:
I think I heared such problem once a time. Try in this way
1. flash kpe with all 4 files
2. flash kpm single file as pda file.
3. do factory reset
if it solve ur problem then its better for u. But if u still face internal sd card error problem then straight way flash stock firmware which is available in ur country & go to samsung center & tell them that suddenly this problem is occured. Dont tell them that u have ever flashed anything on it.
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I'll try that today and get back to you with the results! Thanks for the answer!
CollieDawg said:
I'll try that today and get back to you with the results! Thanks for the answer!
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LMAO, I lol'd hard at your post regarding it went overnight FUU.
Firstly, the post was a little long, but interesting. Me gusta.
The problem could be the following
- What class is your SD card? Some tend to buy cheap ones, or some tend to offer when you get a SALE they pitch in a ****ty SD card that literally messes your phone. Made in Taiwan > Made in China. For some. There have been cases when the SD card has not been "ejected" properly the phone tends to receive this as a crash and default sets everything back to stock *Apple does this aswell*. But ofcourse I implore you to try using ANOTHER SD card. If your using one that used to be from a Nokia phone then you need to format that ****. Some files in Nokia cause issues with the Android, this happened when I first got my phone aswell. I would suggest getting one from branded companies, Kingston/SanDisk, IMO, Sandisk is the best. Cheap yet to the mark.
- What put me on edge was your contacts and messages being gone. Maybe it's SD related. Iunno.
PS: Don't use Kies. Kies is horrible. If 2 ugly trolls mated, Kies was probably the result.
To test: Use XXKPH/XXKPM Choice is yours, Don't know how to flash it? Link is under my sig, Remove your SD card. Use it for a day, Fill up the internal memory with atleast 500MB of stuff. Lastly? Pray that overnight the trollfairy doesn't swap your phone with a factory reset one .
Hey Misledz! Thanks for your reply!
About the SD Card, I'm using a Kingston Class 4, 8GB one. But the issue is presenting with "Internal SD Card". While i'm doing this with the phone, just out of precaution, i take it out and i haven't placed it inside my phone yet.
And the whole "Trollfairy" thing, it's starting to look like a viable explanation to it, LOL!!
Misledz said:
LMAO, I lol'd hard at your post regarding it went overnight FUU.
Firstly, the post was a little long, but interesting. Me gusta.
The problem could be the following
- What class is your SD card? Some tend to buy cheap ones, or some tend to offer when you get a SALE they pitch in a ****ty SD card that literally messes your phone. Made in Taiwan > Made in China. For some. There have been cases when the SD card has not been "ejected" properly the phone tends to receive this as a crash and default sets everything back to stock *Apple does this aswell*. But ofcourse I implore you to try using ANOTHER SD card. If your using one that used to be from a Nokia phone then you need to format that ****. Some files in Nokia cause issues with the Android, this happened when I first got my phone aswell. I would suggest getting one from branded companies, Kingston/SanDisk, IMO, Sandisk is the best. Cheap yet to the mark.
- What put me on edge was your contacts and messages being gone. Maybe it's SD related. Iunno.
PS: Don't use Kies. Kies is horrible. If 2 ugly trolls mated, Kies was probably the result.
To test: Use XXKPH/XXKPM Choice is yours, Don't know how to flash it? Link is under my sig, Remove your SD card. Use it for a day, Fill up the internal memory with atleast 500MB of stuff. Lastly? Pray that overnight the trollfairy doesn't swap your phone with a factory reset one .
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Man this guy should seriously thing of taking writing as a profession.
ganeshbiyer said:
Man this guy should seriously thing of taking writing as a profession.
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I know right?! Maybe writing is a profession of his. Despite the long nature I was strangely indulged to read it
@Collie, Well the problem happens at times when you don't factory reset. *2767*3855# that should get you in to a manual factory reset. The phone's internal memory sometime's has issues with that, You may however need to flash the latona file to repartition the drive. After the repartition, the flashing of the firmware and lastly, le factory reset. That should serve as a stable ground base
Kingston Nice.
Updates?
KIES really is a POS. Every time i flash a new fw and my phone does the initial boot while its connected to the pc I see the horrid screen on my phone reminding me that KIES is installed on my pc. FUUUUUUUUU
ganeshbiyer said:
Man this guy should seriously thing of taking writing as a profession.
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Thanks!! I'm actually just a Wintel / Citrix / VMWare administrator. I've written a few fanfics here and there back when i was a filly, but not anymore!
Misledz said:
I know right?! Maybe writing is a profession of his. Despite the long nature I was strangely indulged to read it
@Collie, Well the problem happens at times when you don't factory reset. *2767*3855# that should get you in to a manual factory reset. The phone's internal memory sometime's has issues with that, You may however need to flash the latona file to repartition the drive. After the repartition, the flashing of the firmware and lastly, le factory reset. That should serve as a stable ground base
Kingston Nice.
Updates?
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About that, maybe I'm doing the reset in an incorrect way. I've been using Vol +, OK, Power to enter the second recovery mode and factory reset the phone. I don't know if this is the same as using the code.
Update on what I did:
I installed the last version of Gingerbread once more, flashed with Odin. This time i did not install any app or register in google, i just left it as it was. This was done saturday afternoon. At night, i took it with me, and i left it in my bag while I was at the club. When i got back to it, around 6 AM, it hadn't rebooted. So i went home, went to sleep, woke up at midday for lunch and....FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!
LOL the irony of the best order. Well did you try without the sdcard? That's your last option from your side, the next possible is getting the unit changed if you are under warranty, just don't mention odin, rather always blame kies LOL. If the end of the world happened, kies. World War 3,kies. There was a user who had the same issue reported like 5months ago, he had internal ROM problem where the phone failed to save the information it was given causing it to say the internal was corrupt? He ended up getting a new unit and found out later the unit he had previously was a faulty handset
Sent from my GT - I9003 in the bathroom
Misledz said:
LOL the irony of the best order. Well did you try without the sdcard? That's your last option from your side, the next possible is getting the unit changed if you are under warranty, just don't mention odin, rather always blame kies LOL. If the end of the world happened, kies. World War 3,kies. There was a user who had the same issue reported like 5months ago, he had internal ROM problem where the phone failed to save the information it was given causing it to say the internal was corrupt? He ended up getting a new unit and found out later the unit he had previously was a faulty handset
Sent from my GT - I9003 in the bathroom
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SD has been out since day 1, since I started having this issue, first thing i thought is "this idiot is saving its own files to the SD instead of its own memory, and when it reboots for some reason it can't find the files and goes nuts".
So yes, i'm thinking about just taking it to the store and getting a new one...
THAT'S IT! I'm taking it to the store tomorrow...
Now it's just rebooting itself...Samsung logo going on and on....
Thanks everyone for the help!!!
CollieDawg said:
THAT'S IT! I'm taking it to the store tomorrow...
Now it's just rebooting itself...Samsung logo going on and on....
Thanks everyone for the help!!!
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Get it replaced asap so you can join the "famiry" !
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Get it replaced asap so you can join the "famiry" !
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If I don't get it changed tomorrow, my next post will be a link to youtube, where you'll find a video of me lighting it up on fire, then dancing around it as it burns, and finally running it over with my car...total destruction, should be covered by my insurance...
CollieDawg said:
If I don't get it changed tomorrow, my next post will be a link to youtube, where you'll find a video of me lighting it up on fire, then dancing around it as it burns, and finally running it over with my car...total destruction, should be covered by my insurance...
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ROFL, That was literally the funniest thing I heard all month
wish you good luck
CollieDawg said:
If I don't get it changed tomorrow, my next post will be a link to youtube, where you'll find a video of me lighting it up on fire, then dancing around it as it burns, and finally running it over with my car...total destruction, should be covered by my insurance...
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LOL i would have done the same, only a little different, burn it, dance and wait for the ashes to settle, drink up the ashes or feed it to my dog, then walk upto the nearest samsung retailer and take a dump on the entrance entitled 'Now your phone is ****', I'm pretty sure the insurance covers the carpet too.
Sent from my GT - I9003 in the bathroom
CollieDawg said:
If I don't get it changed tomorrow, my next post will be a link to youtube, where you'll find a video of me lighting it up on fire, then dancing around it as it burns, and finally running it over with my car...total destruction, should be covered by my insurance...
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Excellent! I loved your whole style of writing although your issue might yet get resolved at the samsung service center but this description is a total Lullzzz.. Lol!
Also I humbly request you to leave a PM with a few links of your fan fic stories! thanks...
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
Misledz said:
LOL i would have done the same, only a little different, burn it, dance and wait for the ashes to settle, drink up the ashes or feed it to my dog, then walk upto the nearest samsung retailer and take a dump on the entrance entitled 'Now your phone is ****', I'm pretty sure the insurance covers the carpet too.
Sent from my GT - I9003 in the bathroom
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Super Duper epic Lol!
Boss you've redefined the whole meaning of taking a ****! :O
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
Hi basic question regarding my internal sdcard.
Im having an issue and was told I should format my sdcard (I dont have an external sd).
I hooked my phone up via USB and opened it with windows explorer. I see my device and see "Internal Storage", which contains every folder within it. I dont see something specific for "sdcard" and Im unsure how to find it. Is the entire "Internal Storage" folder what Im looking for? Is that what I should completely back up on pc, format and then repopulate? Im nervous about bricking the phone so want to confirm this...
Thanks.
The internal memory is the sd card referred to. You will lose all of your data.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.
luc.highwalker said:
The internal memory is the sd card referred to. You will lose all of your data.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.
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Thanks for the reply. So if I first copy every folder here onto my PC, format it and then put all those folders back, should I expect the phone to restart without any problem and everything fully intact?
lirong said:
Thanks for the reply. So if I first copy every folder here onto my PC, format it and then put all those folders back, should I expect the phone to restart without any problem and everything fully intact?
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Yup, works just fine.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.
thanks really appreciate this guidance.
i know it seems obvious, but doing it your first time is scary so its really helpful to get affirmation that my understanding of what may seem basic and obvious is correct
Haha I know that feeling, first time I tried to root a phone I almost bricked it probably one of my scariest moments. YouTube helps a lot, there's plenty of step by step guides on how to do pretty much everything to your phone.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.
luc.highwalker said:
Haha I know that feeling, first time I tried to root a phone I almost bricked it probably one of my scariest moments. YouTube helps a lot, there's plenty of step by step guides on how to do pretty much everything to your phone.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.
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OT: First time i modded a phone (a razr v3i) i did brick it. after a week of research (the v3i scene is a huge mess) i was able to both save it and do some weird stuff like changing imei for fun
as for the topic, luc.highwalker has covered it so you are safe lirong.
I have an issue with my internal storage mount.... Not the ones with my system files but the one were all my program/game files go. I have orthus 8 now and ever sense I don't have it anymore showing up. Can someone help my fix it?
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I'm running the stock OS on my sidekick and am running out of memory on the internal SD card. It can't run the updates. I have only a handful of apps downloaded. T-mobile won't let me delete a whole host of stupid apps I never use. I went through and moved everything to the external SD card that would move (very few apps are willing to move, grrrrr). I even deleted the updates to all the stupid apps that can't be moved on the assumption that they always get larger over time (is this a correct assumption?) and turned off the auto en masse updating.
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. I guess this is a rant because I don't have much hope. It annoys me no end that the idea of android and having control of the device gets destroyed by the carriers.
Still loving the keyboard. I'd marry it if it was legal to.
[I just want a phone that does a few things reliably and I don't want to spend the hours I did with my last android rooting and re-rooting it, I added it up and it was 16 hours, at least, at 125 an hour for my personal time it was the single most expensive thing I've ever owned.]
Rooting this phone will fix your problem and will take a novice 20min and a pro 3-5min, choice is yours though
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As demkantor said, rooting the SK4G is not very tough even for newcomers. Pretty straightforward and once you finish the process you can use those shiny new root permissions to delete things like the app-pack, qik-vidchat, and all that other bologna. Check the dev section and it's all there.
I agree, just root and install a lightweight ROM. It's not that difficult or time-consuming. Then you can tailor the phone to your liking. Or you can try Googling "android remove bloatware without root." Quite a few how-tos will come up, although I can't vouch for any of them.
Easy remove
rareasasparagus said:
I'm running the stock OS on my sidekick and am running out of memory on the internal SD card. It can't run the updates. I have only a handful of apps downloaded. T-mobile won't let me delete a whole host of stupid apps I never use. I went through and moved everything to the external SD card that would move (very few apps are willing to move, grrrrr). I even deleted the updates to all the stupid apps that can't be moved on the assumption that they always get larger over time (is this a correct assumption?) and turned off the auto en masse updating.
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. I guess this is a rant because I don't have much hope. It annoys me no end that the idea of android and having control of the device gets destroyed by the carriers.
Still loving the keyboard. I'd marry it if it was legal to.
[I just want a phone that does a few things reliably and I don't want to spend the hours I did with my last android rooting and re-rooting it, I added it up and it was 16 hours, at least, at 125 an hour for my personal time it was the single most expensive thing I've ever owned.]
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For the easy then, SuperOneClick works for root. it's super and one click for the sk4g. "Titanium backup" can then delete everything that has a neon pink icon (TMO bundled crap, there is lots) Most of the "neon pink" is safe to remove, please someone correct me if something doesn't fit the large generalization.
Should be less than an hour.
For your problem root the phone then update superuser an download /system/app an you can delte the useless apps from tmobile or stuff you don't use
Or you can install a rom which would fix a lot of problems
P.s. also after root download clean master an run it every few days go through an delete the bs stuff you don't use folders that were not deleted
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I can't say when it happed. Evidently, it has been on my phone for a long time. I can remember seeing some of this funny crap months ago when I first rooted my phone. One of the mods here has a surfaceflinger hack that will take over your entire system. Your accounts will get hacked. First it was my Google drive. There was a zip file in there that I did not place. It said it was a Metro PCS Note5 zip. It was shared to my drive by someone else, and I could not remove it. So any time I did a factory reset and logged into my Google account, it would be loaded onto my phone. I finally got that cleaned up, but they had moved to my OneDrive storage with the same thing under a different file name. This hack is so smooth, that your phone won't even hesitate. It is disguised as Android OS, but if you check the battery stats, it says surfaceflinger. It is located in your data partition. It is a add on script, and it will eventually infect about 20 more apps with add on scripts. It will load up tons of /data/data along with a recovery from boot script, and..... I just discovered a little too late that there is a script that will destroy your device if you remove it the wrong way. I think the name of it is sec_device_destroy but I can't be sure. I saw the code in a system log file, but I do not know what it is yet. I am 100% positive that some of you have the same problem, you just don't know it. I'm gonna start taking apart every singe file in the development threads until I find it. As for now.... My device is stuck in a infinite bootloop. It won't recover from ODIN, and I have a new LED llight that is white. I can answer any questions and provide screenshots, and system logs if anyone wants to help uncover this beast. It is super legit. Best Android hack I've ever seen. It does every thing. Who is gonna help me locate this b.s? My Note 5 is useless now. Somebody here has it, I assure you, and when you discover it, you should ask for help. If you don't remove every bit of it, the device will not boot again. I'm gonna keep playing with mine, but I'm pretty sure it is toast. ( EDIT---> I was able to get to boot again by flashing TWRP and using the wipe option to repair each partition. I had to change them to exFAT then back to EXT4 to get them to mount.)
Sounds like my boot loop of death. Where everything was Odin flashed and still wouldnt load. Quick question when you were on Odin did you select the band erase all option? And do you still have acesss to recovery? Was all this weird stuff going on when you firmware was load? Did anything strange happen while in recovery? And why didn't u send it back to sprint)
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If I was in your shoes I would select the band erase all and repartition option. Re download stock firmware from sammobile, go back to Odin to root and add twrp, select the erase button again to flash moar ROM and see what happens. If it's a hack like u said then I'd use my insurance
The potential for having your personal security and financial disaster that something like this could cause is why i stopped rooting.
Rumning other none store apps is like letting a guy you dont know come over and say "hey, i have these cool mods i can do to your car's brakes! I take out a few parts, replace others with parts I made in my garage, and load my own software into your anti-lock brake system".
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You can't blame no one if your phone gets fried or blown up, you take the risk at your own discretion . No one force you to flash anything. To avoid any problems don't flash anything your not sure what's going to happen. If i see someone post a s7 edge port, I'm not gonna flash it until i get some good feedback or take one for the team and hope it don't destroy my phone. Goodluck fixing your phone don't seem like it's too hard to fix depending your experience . I would help but it's too time consuming helping fix a phone i can't even see or test out.
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I'm really sorry that this happened to you. But @bonebeatz1234 is right. There is a disclaimer at the beginning of every rom, feature add-on, theme, kernel, etc. The whole point of Q&A & replys are so you can find out if something is "okay" to flash. There are so many known developers that have built stuff for so many devices. Its rare to find something on XDA that is "unsafe." I can't even remember ever finding anything that is "unsafe" or nearly as bad as you are describing. Especially for the Sprint Note 5. I'm assuming you have a SM-N920P do to the fact that you're posting it here. There have only been a few roms for this device & maybe a couple handfuls of add-ons. The one or two things I've seen that have caused problems with this device, they were removed with-in a few hours. You weren't very clear on where you got this hack at all. Are you saying it was something you downloaded from one of the Sprint Galaxy Note 5 threads? You are a Senior Member. So, I'm assuming you know what you are talking about. I believe that it is very possible you did get it from some place on here. But, in order for me to believe that, I have to also believe that it is just as possible that it could have came form anywhere else on the web via public WiFi connection, email, file download, text message, USB connection or at least 100 other ways. @DAvid_B made a point about the risk of rooting your device. Although the risk can go up for threats. The same rules apply for rooted device as they do for non-rooted devices. BE CAREFUL! Use software to protect yourself, read reviews, don't be the guinea pig. If you are like me & are addicted to putting yourself at some (if even the smallest) amount of risk, HAVE INSURANCE! Most if not all people have to agree that it's worth the $11 a months & $200 deductible to have as much fun as we all do. Its a hobby. People spend more money on model airplanes, playing golf & hunting. I haven't had to file a claim in over 6 years. I say all that to say this... Anyone that see's this thread & decides its too much of a risk to root, I promise you, IT ISN'T! The advantages out way the risk by about a 1000! The members of XDA are here to help with any issues you may have. There are VERY FEW things that are UNFIX-ABLE! And when I say "very few" I mean little to non! When I say little to non, I mean NONE! AT ALL! Even the problem he described IS FIXABLE! Like he stated, ask for help. @Sleepycloud, I pray you get this resolved. Even if you have to Odin back to stock & backup/wipe your Google Drive & OneDrive account, I know you can fix this. Please don't think that I meant any disrespect for posting this. I just want people to know this is extremely rare & only a one in a million chance it could happen.
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I can't say when it happed. Evidently, it has been on my phone for a long time. I can remember seeing some of this funny crap months ago when I first rooted my phone. One of the mods here has a surfaceflinger hack that will take over your entire system. Your accounts will get hacked. First it was my Google drive. There was a zip file in there that I did not place. It said it was a Metro PCS Note5 zip. It was shared to my drive by someone else, and I could not remove it. So any time I did a factory reset and logged into my Google account, it would be loaded onto my phone. I finally got that cleaned up, but they had moved to my OneDrive storage with the same thing under a different file name. This hack is so smooth, that your phone won't even hesitate. It is disguised as Android OS, but if you check the battery stats, it says surfaceflinger. It is located in your data partition. It is a add on script, and it will eventually infect about 20 more apps with add on scripts. It will load up tons of /data/data along with a recovery from boot script, and..... I just discovered a little too late that there is a script that will destroy your device if you remove it the wrong way. I think the name of it is sec_device_destroy but I can't be sure. I saw the code in a system log file, but I do not know what it is yet. I am 100% positive that some of you have the same problem, you just don't know it. I'm gonna start taking apart every singe file in the development threads until I find it. As for now.... My device is stuck in a infinite bootloop. It won't recover from ODIN, and I have a new LED llight that is white. I can answer any questions and provide screenshots, and system logs if anyone wants to help uncover this beast. It is super legit. Best Android hack I've ever seen. It does every thing. Who is gonna help me locate this b.s? My Note 5 is useless now. Somebody here has it, I assure you, and when you discover it, you should ask for help. If you don't remove every bit of it, the device will not boot again. I'm gonna keep playing with mine, but I'm pretty sure it is toast.
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If you are willing to send me the phone, I could probably fix it for you and send it back. I know it's hard to trust people these days so it's totally up to you.
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You can't blame no one if your phone gets fried or blown up, you take the risk at your own discretion . No one force you to flash anything. To avoid any problems don't flash anything your not sure what's going to happen. If i see someone post a s7 edge port, I'm not gonna flash it until i get some good feedback or take one for the team and hope it don't destroy my phone. Goodluck fixing your phone don't seem like it's too hard to fix depending your experience . I would help but it's too time consuming helping fix a phone i can't even see or test out.
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I'm not mad. Lol Not at all. I am a true geek to the heart. This is fun stuff to me. You learn more when you are challenged beyond your current skillset. I'm just putting everybody up to the fact that there is something malicious here in the threads. I have a strong feeling of where it came from. I already to apart the "Stock" .tar and found 3 extra files in it. A param.bin file, a carrier .img and a PIT file. I am one hundred percent sure that when I take that PIT file apart later that I will be able to confirm my suspicions. According to the thread here by @tdunham in this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...sprint-galaxy-note-5-sm-n920p-partition-There are 19 partitions. I believe that I have 24 or 25. I'll have to get back with y'all on this one. Can anybody confirm that this partition table is still viable for Marshmallow? I'll post screenshots in about an hour or two for everyone to examine. I would love some help on this. I have never removed partitions before and my knowledge on how to go about it is limited. I'm reading, but most of it is unrelated garbage. If anyone has a link that will help me educate myself and remove these partitions, I would be super thankful.
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If you are willing to send me the phone, I could probably fix it for you and send it back. I know it's hard to trust people these days so it's totally up to you.
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That is pretty awesome of you bro. I am pretty sure I have correctly identified the problem. I have 4 or 5 extra partitions. This is why it keeps coming back, and that is why ODIN and Smart Swithc does not fix it. They are only going to see the 19 partitions they are supposed to see and they will not even look anywhere else. I bought a root partition app on Google Play for $9.99 and that is how I saw the extra partitions. This has been on my phone for a long time. A very long time. Like 6 months, but I never knew it. I can remember seeing about 5 USB folders that I could not open. They are labeled as external usb storage. I'll post screen shots later. So now that I know what the problem is, I see a bright side coming soon. lol
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That is pretty awesome of you bro. I am pretty sure I have correctly identified the problem. I have 4 or 5 extra partitions. This is why it keeps coming back, and that is why ODIN and Smart Swithc does not fix it. They are only going to see the 19 partitions they are supposed to see and they will not even look anywhere else. I bought a root partition app on Google Play for $9.99 and that is how I saw the extra partitions. This has been on my phone for a long time. A very long time. Like 6 months, but I never knew it. I can remember seeing about 5 USB folders that I could not open. They are labeled as external usb storage. I'll post screen shots later. So now that I know what the problem is, I see a bright side coming soon. lol
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Some times when a Samsung device gets bricked you need whats called a PIT that can reflash the partitions. It's on here somewhere or I have one.
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Some times when a Samsung device gets bricked you need whats called a PIT that can reflash the partitions. It's on here somewhere or I have one.
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I have one. It doesnt work because a PIT file will only reset the factory image partitions. When there are additional partitions, it does not touch them. I have one extended partition after boot. Everything gets rearranged under /sys/dev/block/8:0 have you ever heard of that? Me neither. Lol I need to disect this and remove the script after a fresh flash before the first boot. Something tells me that it would be easier to deal with then. Ill post some pics from my computer here in a bit. I dont have the option on my phone
Here are some pics of the new extended partition and the logical partitions within.
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I have one. It doesnt work because a PIT file will only reset the factory image partitions. When there are additional partitions, it does not touch them. Inhave one extended partition after boot. Everything gets rearranged under /sys/dev/block/8:0 have you ever heard of that? Me neither. Lol I need to disect b this and remove the script after a fresh flash before the firsy boot. Something tells me that it would be easier to deal with then. Ill post some pics from my computer here in a bit. I dont have the option on my phone
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I've seen some pretty crazy partition set ups the HTC Desire for instance has over 20 partitions and all of them have close to 200MB of free space on them that you can't even use! Talk about a waste of space lol.. But /sys/dev/block/8:0?!?! The fuuu... What kind of partition is that?!
Damn, your phones using almost all the ram/memory that you have.. Are you running a lot of apps or something else that's memory intensive?
So now the million dollar question is..... What is it gonna take to remove this b.s. from my phone. Removing the folders does not work. They get reinstalled upon every boot. I need to find the script(s) and where they are hidden, and delete them, then remove the partitions form the logical folder. I am tempted to just wipe the logical partition it its entirety then create a whole new partition table based on my unrooted Note 5. However, I am going to wait until I get some solid feedback from one of y'all. Who has an idea of what I need to do here. Repartitioning with a PIT file does not work. IT does not touch these extra partitions. I think they are labeled, sdb, sdc, and sdd.
I'm just gonna go ahead and let the world know who the piece of crap is. Here... go take a look for yourself. Download the "stock" tar and extract it, then extract the .tar itself. You'll find the extra files there. It contains a param.bin file, a carrier.img, and a modified PIT file that will give you the crap on my phone. If I could be my hands on this dude, I would choke him until he was purple. This has been a major pain in my ass for over 3 months now. My accounts were hacked, all of them, files were deleted, and I had no privacy what so ever. Here... This is where it came from. http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/project-noble-firmware-pit-file-galaxy-t3179529
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So now the million dollar question is..... What is it gonna take to remove this b.s. from my phone. Removing the folders does not work. They get reinstalled upon every boot. I need to find the script(s) and where they are hidden, and delete them, then remove the partitions form the logical folder. I am tempted to just wipe the logical partition it its entirety then create a whole new partition table based on my unrooted Note 5. However, I am going to wait until I get some solid feedback from one of y'all. Who has an idea of what I need to do here. Repartitioning with a PIT file does not work. IT does not touch these extra partitions. I think they are labeled, sdb, sdc, and sdd.
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Deleting them is not going to work no matter which way you remove them they'll come right back after a reboot and the only way to stop that from happening is to flash a custom kernel/boot that's got write protection off. If you don't have that they just keep coming back no matter what.. All the apps are usually always in these 2 places /system/apps and /system/priv-apps
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I'm just gonna go ahead and let the world know who the piece of crap is. Here... go take a look for yourself. Download the "stock" tar and extract it, then extract the .tar itself. You'll find the extra files there. It contains a param.bin file, a carrier.img, and a modified PIT file that will give you the crap on my phone. If I could be my hands on this dude, I would choke him until he was purple. This has been a major pain in my ass for over 3 months now. My accounts were hacked, all of them, files were deleted, and I had no privacy what so ever. Here... This is where it came from. http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/project-noble-firmware-pit-file-galaxy-t3179529
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I'd report this to one of the moderators if I was you so they can check it out and remove it if it's harmful to people's devices I don't think xda would be happy hosting that type of ****!
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Deleting them is not going to work no matter which way you remove them they'll come right back after a reboot and the only way to stop that from happening is to flash a custom kernel/boot that's got write protection off. If you don't have that they just keep coming back no matter what.. All the apps are usually always in these 2 places /system/apps and /system/priv-apps
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I hava already tried that. These are add on scripts. They work on any kernel. I have to delete the partions themselves but I'm not exactly sure which ones or how to do it without bricking my phone. I'm gonna move slow on this one until I am sure that II have the right solution. I'm certain it is the sda, sdb, sdc, and sdd partitions that need to be deleted. First I need to know if this partition table is still valid for Marshmallow. http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/sprint-galaxy-note-5-sm-n920p-partition-t3190326 Once I know that, I can proceed. Is this PIT still the same in marshmallow?
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I hava already tried that. These are add on scripts. They work on any kernel. I have to delete the partions themselves but I'm not exactly sure which ones or how to do it without bricking my phone. I'm gonna move slow on this one until I am sure that II have the right solution. I'm certain it is the sda, sdb, sdc, and sdd partitions that need to be deleted. First I need to know if this partition table is still valid for Marshmallow. http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/sprint-galaxy-note-5-sm-n920p-partition-t3190326 Once I know that, I can proceed. Is this PIT still the same in marshmallow?
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Yeah that PIT is fine but if I were you I'd try to flash a different kernel because I had the same problems with apps returning after a reboot and the only way to stop that from happening again was to flash the custom kernel. That stopped them from coming back. <----This was on an HTC device so maybe Samsung is different?
This b.s. has my ADB disabled somehow. Even when I open the IOT Menu and switch from MTP to MTP+ADB it still does not work. It does work upon a fresh flash if I let the stock recovery update the system image then immediately go back into download mode before it boots up. After that, I have no ADB capabilities. Would that be a build.prop issue?
So was my advice useless oo?
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So was my advice useless oo?
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No. It was pretty good, but I already have a good Note 5. I'm trying to learn more about Android bro. I wanna fix this one, not replace it. Give me some more solid ideas!!! I'm open to suggestion. Thank you.