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I do not have a data plan with my carrier because virtually everywhere I go has WiFi, so I leach off of this. Because of this, I disabled the data connection so I don't wind up with any accidental charges. But, this leaves me unable to send or receive SMS messages. Has anyone found a good solution for this? Thanks!
If you cant send SMS thats not a data issue. If you mean MMS then:
Here (T-Mob UK) i have 2 connections, my internet connection & my MMS connection. If i receive a media message, the phone connects to the latter - free - and downloads the message.
If i send a mms, it connects again (still free for the data) and sends it. I get billed per mms sent, regardless of the ammount of data.
The internet connection isnt used for messages at all, but for everything else (and is billed per kb)
I'm talking about MMS, I mixed it up in the paragraph. I have to connections with AT&T: Media Net and ISP GRPS. So will just disabling the ISP GRPS connection allow me to send MMS without accidently connecting with Opera a day later on accident?
With AT&T, Data and Messaging are separate features. As long as you have a Messaging or Messaging Unlimited plan, you can send and receive text and MMS messages.
Yes I realize that, but my issue is accidental data usage after the message is sent. I have unlimited MMS and SMS but I dropped the data because most places I go has wi fi. The issue is that I might send a message and an hour later it downloads my email from the data connection either when there is wi fi or not.
I do the same thing with my Fuze, I also have AT&T and use NoData. I just tried to send a MMS and it wont even connect to send it. I even uninstalled NoData and it wouldnt connect. I have done a little looking aroud and with AT&T any smartphone you use has to have a data plan to send MMS, it is true that it doesnt need it but AT&T wont let you connect to media net with out it.
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I do the same thing with my Fuze, I also have AT&T and use NoData. I just tried to send a MMS and it wont even connect to send it. I even uninstalled NoData and it wouldnt connect. I have done a little looking aroud and with AT&T any smartphone you use has to have a data plan to send MMS, it is true that it doesnt need it but AT&T wont let you connect to media net with out it.
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This is correct. As far as I am aware there is no work around for it either. I used email for the longest time instead, but finally decided it was time to get a data plan. Its actually pretty nice.
I think this is very wrong of AT&T to do, I pay for unlimited text and MMS and I cant even use it. I have no need for the data plan, at home I have Wifi I also have it at work and my half hour drive I dont need to be connected to the internet. The only company I know that will let you do something like this is T-Mobile, I did it with them when I had my blackberry.
Yeah it is a little unfair, although really the end user is at fault too for disabling the data feature to avoid accidental charges.
Side note- I thought that with Blackberrys you had to have the BB Data service as it is something RIM mandates or because its a licensing/contractual thing between them and the carrier.
theonedub said:
Yeah it is a little unfair, although really the end user is at fault too for disabling the data feature to avoid accidental charges.
Side note- I thought that with Blackberrys you had to have the BB Data service as it is something RIM mandates or because its a licensing/contractual thing between them and the carrier.
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You only need the service books for your carrier for mms to work on the Blackberry, t-mobile will give these out AT&T wont. For the Blackberry the work around is to put in a sim card that has a active BB data plan, it then downloads the service books and when you put your sim back in it will still connect with out charging you for it.
Can anyone tell me the settings to Connect to "Media Net" on AT&T? It would be really appreciated
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Can anyone tell me the settings to Connect to "Media Net" on AT&T? It would be really appreciated
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have you tried at&t's support pages?
Whenever I receive a text with pictures, it displays a downloading bar. When i click on it, it turns into a "downloading" and nothing happens. I've talked with customer support and they've suggested to add the apn on their site even though the phone already came with it by default. I don't have a data plan yet, so I'm not sure if this might be the problem. Any ideas?
Bump, anyone have this trouble also?
Tried calling for custom support, used the right settings for APN. Still cannot send pictures.
Data plan
Well, MMS does use the data and if you dont have a data plan and you are on prepaid service, you might not be able to use data at all. I'm pretty sure that in Mobilicity's case, the data used by MMS is just counted out of your data plan, its not a sepperate MMS messaging charge or anything like that. Also, make sure you have the correct APN settings, they have it on their website.
I do have the correct APN settings, MOWAP and MOMMS as detailed here.
Mobilicity has MMS for all their plans, regardless of data plan. That was exactly my first assumption that since I did not have a data plan, that pictures were not sending or receiving through.
Anyone have a nexus s with mobilicity experiencing the same problem? I've been calling custom support 6 times now, being asked to visit a local dealer, to a warranty support dealer, to back to the customer support help, and then to the samsung customer support. I've been going in circles, tried using a "demo" sim card in one of the mobilicity dealer place, no fix.
I don't have data plan. i can receive and sent mms
my settings
Name- T-Mobile US
apn- wap.voicestream.com
proxy 216.155.165.050
port 8080
mmsc- htpp://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
mms proxy 216.155.165.050
mms port 8080
mcc 310
mnc 260
in order to receive or sent mms you have to check "data enabled "
Well, I got my problem fixed! Apparently you DO need a data plan to receive pictures over mms. The plan states that phones can receive them without the data plan, but smartphones handles pictures differently than regular phones.
I tested out at one of the local stores, and it works. Not sure if like you said, I just need to have "data" on, or actually have the data plan. I'll try the first when my month runs out. Thanks!
Sorry for the bump but i thought it would be better than creating a new thread for the same problem. anyhow, I've recently picked up a nexus s from mobi (with the $25 data plan) and im having problems with the MMS. I usually get a message with the size details, and a "download" button, same problem as you had, it changes to "downloading", then nothing happens.
If i scroll up in the conversation so that the "downloading" button disappears, then scroll down, it's just back to "download." Sometimes (maybe 10% of the time), the message will come up as it should, with no "download" button, the picture just shows up.
ive double and triple checked that the APN settings are 100% correct, so that can't be the problem. I manually updated to the official release of ICS 4.0.3 (from this thread) last night, but it didnt work before either (came stock with 2.3.4) Sorry for the life story, but thanks for any help.
My scenario is a little unique
I run this phone unlocked on AT&T without data. I actually have a data block on my plan, so my phone doesn't use any extraneous data from apps I can't control when I'm out of a wifi hotspot
My only problem is, I DO have unlimited texting, which also includes picture messaging. But if I block data, I can't receive picture messages.
Is there any way to block data but still be able to receive picture messages?
I'm trying to use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jeffdonahue.smozzy&hl=en
It is a great concept and would definitely become popular with some love.
Nice way to save data in a pinch too, or forgo the data plan all together if you don't use it much.
But I haven't been able to figure out how to have picture messaging enabled with data blocked.
Short and long answers to your question
gtmaster303 said:
My scenario is a little unique
I run this phone unlocked on AT&T without data. I actually have a data block on my plan, so my phone doesn't use any extraneous data from apps I can't control when I'm out of a wifi hotspot
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Unique is a bit of an understatement, given that most carriers require a data plan in order to purchase a smartphone in the first place.
gtmaster303 said:
My only problem is, I DO have unlimited texting, which also includes picture messaging. But if I block data, I can't receive picture messages.
Is there any way to block data but still be able to receive picture messages?
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Short answer, AFAIK, yes. SMS (text) and MMS (multimedia messages) work fine over the standard cellular connection. They don't require wi-fi or the carrier's data network to be active.
To elucidate: I'm on T-Mobile, and though I signed up for the mandatory 2 GB data plan, I rarely use it because I control how my phone accesses wi-fi and T-Mo's data network. In Settings|Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi is off unless I need to use it, be it my home connection or a free provider like Panera while I'm at the restaurant. Likewise Mobile network is set to off, as well as Settings|Accounts & sync|Background data and Auto-sync (separate settings). I use the Extended Controls app for a detailed widget that includes wi-fi and data network toggles for when I need to use these capabilities. My husband is hearing impaired, so we communicate a great deal using SMS and MMS; and we've not had any difficulty with wi-fi and data network switched off.
In closing, it's to your benefit to thoroughly read the manual for the MT4GS. This information and more can be found there. Here's a link for the pdf from T-Mobile (the manual is by HTC, though): http://support.t-mobile.com/servlet...2-102-2-3529/mytouch-4g-slide-user-manual.pdf
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KingCheetah said:
Unique is a bit of an understatement, given that most carriers require a data plan in order to purchase a smartphone in the first place.
Short answer, AFAIK, yes. SMS (text) and MMS (multimedia messages) work fine over the standard cellular connection. They don't require wi-fi or the carrier's data network to be active.
To elucidate: I'm on T-Mobile, and though I signed up for the mandatory 2 GB data plan, I rarely use it because I control how my phone accesses wi-fi and T-Mo's data network. In Settings|Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi is off unless I need to use it, be it my home connection or a free provider like Panera while I'm at the restaurant. Likewise Mobile network is set to off, as well as Settings|Accounts & sync|Background data and Auto-sync (separate settings). I use the Extended Controls app for a detailed widget that includes wi-fi and data network toggles for when I need to use these capabilities. My husband is hearing impaired, so we communicate a great deal using SMS and MMS; and we've not had any difficulty with wi-fi and data network switched off.
In closing, it's to your benefit to thoroughly read the manual for the MT4GS. This information and more can be found there. Here's a link for the pdf from T-Mobile (the manual is by HTC, though): http://support.t-mobile.com/servlet...2-102-2-3529/mytouch-4g-slide-user-manual.pdf
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You can run any phone on your carrier without data, as long as they can't recognize what it is (i.e. an unlocked phone from a different carrier)
But back to my question, AT&T tech support has told me that data needs to be enabled in order for me to receive MMS as part of my unlimited texting. On a non-smartphone, that would be no problem because there are no apps that constantly pull data in the background. If I disable mobile data on my phone, will my MMS still work? That's what I'm trying to do. Otherwise there's no way for me to avoid pay per use data charges, because my phone will keep pulling data
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If I disable mobile data on my phone, will my MMS still work?
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Why not try and see what happens, then let us know?
Sent from a digital distance.
I've been able to receive mms by disabling data, and deleting the "data" apn. Keep the mms apn, since if you delete that, you will not receive mms.
I have the connect to internet setting disabled, and have been able to receive MMS.
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Why not try and see what happens, then let us know?
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Lol, I did, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong. It didn't work for me, that's why I asked
idlechatter said:
I've been able to receive mms by disabling data, and deleting the "data" apn. Keep the mms apn, since if you delete that, you will not receive mms.
I have the connect to internet setting disabled, and have been able to receive MMS.
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How do I know which is which?
I have about 8 APNs
I have attached screenshots of the list
The second picture is the same list, but just includes the other half of the APNs.
If you could let me know which one to delete, that would be great
Delete all Wap.cingular apns, leave the others. You must have data pay per use at a minimum to use mms because mms messaging functions over the data network. This is the same on all carriers. It's just how mms works. On Att, the data used as part of mms messaging is included in your messaging plan and will not charge your data pay per use.
Hope this helps!
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pantheis said:
Delete all Wap.cingular apns, leave the others. You must have data pay per use at a minimum to use mms because mms messaging functions over the data network. This is the same on all carriers. It's just how mms works. On Att, the data used as part of mms messaging is included in your messaging plan and will not charge your data pay per use.
Hope this helps!
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA
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Thanks for the reply.
So if I enable data on my phone now, apps won't rack up data, will they?
MMS is a part of AT&T messaging, even though it uses data, you are correct.
I just don't want the rest of my phone pulling for pay per use data
A friend of mine is on Solo with a Samsung Galaxy 551 with no data. His plan does include texting but not data.
His apn settings are set to the recommended settings on the Solo website.
I phoned their customer service and he informed me that he needs to have a data plan to send and receive mms messages, but anyone else on any other provider with a non-smartphone can do it just fine.
Does anyone know if this is actually the case? If there is a way for him to get it working without costing extra, or if they're just trying to sell a data plan?
Thanks very much
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bradthemarsh said:
A friend of mine is on Solo with a Samsung Galaxy 551 with no data. His plan does include texting but not data.
His apn settings are set to the recommended settings on the Solo website.
I phoned their customer service and he informed me that he needs to have a data plan to send and receive mms messages, but anyone else on any other provider with a non-smartphone can do it just fine.
Does anyone know if this is actually the case? If there is a way for him to get it working without costing extra, or if they're just trying to sell a data plan?
Thanks very much
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No it will not work. MMS uses 1kb of data that the company waves with a texting plan. If data is blocked so is mms. This is also the reason that firewall apps have to allow the messaging app to have data access.
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No it will not work. MMS uses 1kb of data that the company waves with a texting plan. If data is blocked so is mms. This is also the reason that firewall apps have to allow the messaging app to have data access.
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I can confirm this as well, my mom has an mms plan on her droid but because she turns off her data because she does not have a plan she can no longer send an MMS
Now if he was to enable his data on his phone, not have a data plan, and change his apn to only be an mms apn, in other words remove the internet apn would that work for him?
Would it fall into the data that they would waive under his texting plan? Or is all data blocked at the provider side when you have no data plan?
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All data is blocked on the carrier side.
Batcom2
I set up the custom apn and data works fine and I'm able to receive picture messages but I can't send them. It always fails. Am I missing something? I'm using the at&t model and the straight talk sim card uses at$t towers