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[Q] Internal memory partitioning

Hey everybody,
I am considering getting a Moto G, but i was wondering how the internal memory is partitioned, and how much of it is available for apps and cached music on the 16G version. I read somewhere that on the 8G version, the internal memory in split into 4G system memory for the OS, and 4G for user data. But i could not find the memory partitioning and size for the 16G version.
Anyone with a 16G version who can check this out for me?
Cheerz

I have 12.92 gigs of space before user apps etc. I'm still on the 4.3 ROM, haven't received the new 4.4.2 OTA upgrade.
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PloniAlmoni said:
I have 12.92 gigs of space before user apps etc. I'm still on the 4.3 ROM, haven't received the new 4.4.2 OTA upgrade.
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Cool, does that mean that they did not partition the memory on the 16G version?
Cheerz

Dracorius said:
I read somewhere that on the 8G version, the internal memory in split into 4G system memory for the OS, and 4G for user data.
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I have 8GB version and no partitioning is used, the free memory is available for anything.

Dracorius said:
Cool, does that mean that they did not partition the memory on the 16G version?
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I wouldn't know. It seems normal on this device...
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No partitioning on 16GB. You can use it for whatever you want.

newuser25 said:
No partitioning on 16GB. You can use it for whatever you want.
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That is awsome
Thank you guys for your input.
Cheerz

Moto G 8Gb : Too few (APP) space..
ksuuk said:
I have 8GB version and no partitioning is used, the free memory is available for anything.
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My Moto G 8Gb is really fast...and perfect except for 2 (common) problems, the most important is the FREE APP Space :
1st - impossible install APP except fro Play Store : NO Amazon app, NO AppOfTheDay free app,..
2nd - 5Gb FREE that with a bit of music (2Gb) , Sygic Navi (600Mb) and something else means only 1 Gb for free space ,,,but the worst info is that,
if i check with DiskUsage it says i have :
APP : 1193 Mb --> when i go to install a new app (only 11 Mb) now it says "i have not enough free space" !! (
SYSTEM DATA : 614 Mb
Really too few space..

Got the same problem.

I have a 8gb and I'm thinking of changing it now for a 16gb.
I don't have any music or big game apps just will have a few average apps and photos. Do you think 8 will be enough?

eemgee said:
I have a 8gb and I'm thinking of changing it now for a 16gb.
I don't have any music or big game apps just will have a few average apps and photos. Do you think 8 will be enough?
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8 Gb. is enough for me! Like you said, i just have few average apps, i am not the person who's taking a lot of photos and i don't have a lot of music neither, so i'm fine with 8 gb ñ_ñ

I'll might stick with it then.
I'm the sort that downloads a app and if I don't like I delete it. I can't see me having more than 20 + the pre installed apps at any one time. but maybe a good few photos.

For a few big apps , couple of songs and photos 8GB serves well
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Not much memory,
The phone is awesome, I bought the 8gb version, I didn't know only like 5gb are available for normal use, I installed two games and that's it, no more available internal memory.
This phone is awesome in all ways, very customizable but not much memory...

16gb version only available

I've been looking around through Sprint's community forums and see that they will not be offering the 32gb option, just the 16gb. I was really hoping to upgrade my S3 with the S5, but I'm already running out of room and I would really like the option for more space. Does anyone know if there's a way to free up the usable internal space or get Android to allow apps to work better off the SD card?
Thanks

It can't be apps that are taking up all your space, buy a class 10 64 gb like I have and just move all your pictures and music on it... I never notice it being slow or non responsive for the movies or music I play off it. I preordered my s5 a few days ago and i am not going to worry about space.
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There has been some hint that 32GB might be offered later in the Sprint Community at the official Sprint website. The customer care people have posted "watch the news feed for updates". In the mean time sign the petition http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/sprintgs532gb

If it even comes, it will be much later
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Move your picture and video folder that's what eat your memory. I play alot of game and have a 64 gig sd card that keep things running.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Move your picture and video folder that's what eat your memory. I play alot of game and have a 64 gig sd card that keep things running.
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Yesterday I wiped my s3 and loaded CM11. That freed up a ton of space, but I'm not really sure what originally took up all the space. I can only guess it was the ROM that I had before. I have always had my pictures on my SD card and don't take video.
I just bought a 64gb SD card and that could help. I would like to have the onboard memory, though.

crzy619 said:
...64 GB...
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The S5 also supports new 128 GB micro-SDs. Pretty awesome, I think. I don't know if app2sd is still supported, though.

greogory said:
The S5 also supports new 128 GB micro-SDs. Pretty awesome, I think. I don't know if app2sd is still supported, though.
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yes it is still supported
however, if you want the "extreme" or "extreme plus" micro SD card from sandisc, the biggest is 64gb that is available currently

eyecon82 said:
yes it is still supported
however, if you want the "extreme" or "extreme plus" micro SD card from sandisc, the biggest is 64gb that is available currently
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For now...
And anyway, it's just a pipe dream for me, because I can't afford the fast 64, let alone a slow 128.

I have the extreme plus version and it's amazingly fast. Gallery loads in an instant versus the ultra model
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Best way to expand storage?

Never bought a Nexus before because of the lack of a micro SD card port. I was hoping some of the most recent rumors were true about the Nexus 9 having on but no joy. I will be buyingone though because I have got to tryTegra K1 64 bit and lollipop. Anyone ever try to expand storage on the Nexus 7 2 gen? What did you use? What about a WiFi external hard drive? I am open to any and all solutions.

I use a Corsair Flash Voyager Go usb stick with 64GB storage. It burst writes pretty good, so files under 60MB get written on it pretty much in an instant.
Larger files make the drive heat up pretty fast, and after about 30 minutes the write speed is down to 25MB/s.
If you use Win, the next part won't interest you: I formatted the drive into ext4, so I can store files >4GB on it. It performs better than NTFS or exFAT (exFAT is a pain in the foot!) but a little worse than FAT32 for whatever reason.
There are other comparable products out there, like the one from TeamGroup (M132, IIRC). The differences are marginal - I bought the cheapest.

That's what I am going to use otg with my 64gb Samsung class 10 micro SD card

@MRobbo80, which otg are you going to use with your card? I have a 64gb Sandisk 10 uhs-1.
Would something like this work, http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
Do I need to be concerned about weather the card reader/write is either a USB 2.0 or 3.0?

lartomar2002 said:
@MRobbo80, which otg are you going to use with your card? I have a 64gb Sandisk 10 uhs-1.
Would something like this work, http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
Do I need to be concerned about weather the card reader/write is either a USB 2.0 or 3.0?
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http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Voyag...G-64GB-NA/dp/B00HVT27B8/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_3

how are you going to use this with a card? Doesn't it have it's own storage?

lartomar2002 said:
how are you going to use this with a card? Doesn't it have it's own storage?
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No need for a card. This is the OTG and the flash drive all in one

I asked because in post #3 you said you were going to use otg with your 64gb Samsung class 10 micro SD card. That is were I became confused.

lartomar2002 said:
I asked because in post #3 you said you were going to use otg with your 64gb Samsung class 10 micro SD card. That is were I became confused.
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I was not post #3

lartomar2002 said:
@MRobbo80, which otg are you going to use with your card? I have a 64gb Sandisk 10 uhs-1.
Would something like this work, http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
Do I need to be concerned about weather the card reader/write is either a USB 2.0 or 3.0?
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No, don't be concerned. It does not matter. USB2 can, with some controllers, reach over 25MB/s, which is more than you'll have with your micro sd card.
But I would not spend more than 2 bucks on it. Aliexpress has some better offers.
They don't live for long. I used this setup for quite a while, but after 4 months tops they died.
I would go for the Corsair Flash Voyager Go. Better r/w speeds, better support, etc.
Cheers!

http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I use this with a 128gb microsd card.

Aredubu said:
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I use this with a 128gb microsd card.
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I use this too. It works great on my LG G2 and I'll be using it with my N9
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Aredubu said:
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I use this with a 128gb microsd card.
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GalaxyWhy said:
I use this too. It works great on my LG G2 and I'll be using it with my N9
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Where do I buy this? any notable delays with it?

Meenova.com
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http://www.meenova.com
Came pretty quick from memory, bought mine like 6 months ago
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tyvar1 said:
Where do I buy this? any notable delays with it?
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If you do buy it, keep in mind that they're really easy to bump and disrupt the connection

Aredubu said:
Meenova.com
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GalaxyWhy said:
http://www.meenova.com
Came pretty quick from memory, bought mine like 6 months ago
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Didn't saw the purchase tab, sorry
It says speed:, 45 MB/s read, 41 MB/s write
My sd card is 80 MB/s read, 50MB/s write.

Sooo glad I came across this topic post, definitely going with the 16gb nexus 9 now considering my college budget.

MetTrax said:
Sooo glad I came across this topic post, definitely going with the 16gb nexus 9 now considering my college budget.
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How will you expand the storage?

Use a Meenova, OTG, or flash drive.
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8GB version questions

My wife is fed up with her tribute on virgin mobile. She wants to stay on virgin's $35 plan, so I'm leaning towards the moto g 3rd gen for her (she doesn't really care what phone she has as long as it "works"), but one of the issues with the tribute is that there was literally no space for her own apps after the last update (it was also a buggy mess, but that's another issue).
Is being limited to 8bg a problem for anyone? Can you even get the 16gb version for virgin mobile?
All she'll be using it for is spotify, fallout shelter (and maybe sudoku and stuff like that), navigation and the occasional call and text. No facebook or instagram, or anything like that.

I came from a Nexus 4 with 8gb to this. Probably had 150 apps. With the cloud, micro SD card, and moving apps to the sd(some), I haven't had any problems with this awesome device.
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I have had the VM Moto g for about a week..its a great phone.
I don't think you can get the 16g on VM

There's a micro SD card slot on both 8gb and 16gb model. I have the 8gb model and I have a 16gb micro SD card in it. You can move the apps the SD card and also store your downloaded music.
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xFuGiToiDx said:
There's a micro SD card slot on both 8gb and 16gb model. I have the 8gb model and I have a 16gb micro SD card in it. You can move the apps the SD card and also store your downloaded music.
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Thanks - do you ever run into issues from only having 1gb of memory?

fachadick said:
Thanks - do you ever run into issues from only having 1gb of memory?
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Not really. I'm surprised this runs pretty smooth. I came from the moto x 2014. Of course if you play hardcore games and other memory hungry apps it will become sluggish. However basic social media apps, youtube, chrome, and Google play music works flawlessly.
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Updated to 6.0 but cant move apps to Sdcard ?

So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?

The new 6.0.1 v. 1.2 works fine.
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I would also like to know how to move apps to sd card in Marshmallow.

awes0me1 said:
The new 6.0.1 v. 1.2 works fine.
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Can you please help with that?

Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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ferrari35 said:
Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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I should point out that I only ever got it working with 32 gig cards or smaller even formating in PC
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ferrari35 said:
Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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I should point out that I only ever got it working with 32 gig cards or smaller even formating in PC
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Well that sucks, my smaller 32gb sd card is way slower than my new 64gb sd card.

mortuus82 said:
So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
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You could try FolderMount as I suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/adopting-internal-storage-results-t3297419
As I said I haven't tried the app on MM but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work but YMMV.

really starting to p me off!!
what is this all about, not bein able to move apps to sd! it seems only certain and few phones allow it now rather than the developers. this is my second phone to have 6.0, the first one i returned because it was only 8 gb internal (which is really only 3,5 after system mem) and i recently have gotten into games, games that mind you can take upwards of almost three gb, i returned it for a lg phoenix 2 16gb only to find out that there is NO option to move to sd, its really a punh in the crotch to buy a phone with 16gb only to have 9 useable gb, after all the pointless crap they force us to have that cant be moved,,,"well root your phone then" everybody says, oh, well, i happen to be one of the few luckies that have alwasys purchased a phone that a rooting method has never been found, and no i refuse to spend 600 bucks on a "popular" phone,, that always has a way to be rooted just to one up my friends, and im too broke this is my fifth unrootable phone, And i cant move my apps? wtf!!!! ive never been an apple man, but this has me knocking on their door..i have researched and tried everything, watched videos and read novels of it being done, some say to format the sd as internal, i say impossible, guess what, no option for that either, only format, no internal. how in the F*** do move my apps, or even better how the crap do i downgrade back to lollipop??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

I haven't explored with the Shield Tablet (16G is enough for my apps currently, so my SD card is portable storage). But on my Moto G3, Marshmallow removed the ability to move apps to SD unless you've integrated it as adopted (i.e., internal) storage. If the SD is mounted as portable storage apps can't be moved to the card. Again, not positive if this is also the case for the Shield, but it wouldn't surprise me.

darian_420 said:
what is this all about, not bein able to move apps to sd! it seems only certain and few phones allow it now rather than the developers. this is my second phone to have 6.0, the first one i returned because it was only 8 gb internal (which is really only 3,5 after system mem) and i recently have gotten into games, games that mind you can take upwards of almost three gb, i returned it for a lg phoenix 2 16gb only to find out that there is NO option to move to sd, its really a punh in the crotch to buy a phone with 16gb only to have 9 useable gb, after all the pointless crap they force us to have that cant be moved,,,"well root your phone then" everybody says, oh, well, i happen to be one of the few luckies that have alwasys purchased a phone that a rooting method has never been found, and no i refuse to spend 600 bucks on a "popular" phone,, that always has a way to be rooted just to one up my friends, and im too broke this is my fifth unrootable phone, And i cant move my apps? wtf!!!! ive never been an apple man, but this has me knocking on their door..i have researched and tried everything, watched videos and read novels of it being done, some say to format the sd as internal, i say impossible, guess what, no option for that either, only format, no internal. how in the F*** do move my apps, or even better how the crap do i downgrade back to lollipop??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
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Dude, stop complaining and you really need to write clearly so other people can read your post.
Conclusion: there is a way to bypass and use SD card as internal storage, but it is not a good idea.
Here is why:
I have a LG K371, and a G.Skill 64GB microSD with speed class 10. The microSD is not as good as Sandisk's speed class 10, as it read/write at 45/15 MB/s vs Sandisk 80/20 MB/s.
The original 16GB internal storage read/write at about 100/70 MB/s (I don't remember the exact number).
After using ADB command tool, I did successfully bypass and be able to use microSD as internal storage. The process is a bit annoying, because I kept seeing error message and sometimes the phone show "SD card is corrupted". I repeat this process multiple times and did some test with differing configuration.
If I use all the space as internal storage, the speed is about 15/7 MB/s
If I use half the space (so I can use the card on computer), the speed is 13/5 Mb/s
If I use 16GB of space as internal storage, the speed is on 9/3 MB/s.
The speed difference is caused by the special file partition format used for adoptable storage, which can't be access by windows computer.
You see, even with a 64GB speed 10 SD card, the speed drops to 15/7 MB/s. It is as slow as USB 2.0 flash drive.
Not to mention if you use a 16GB SD card, the speed is only 9/3 MB/s, which is intolerably slow.
The real problem is that the phone doesn't recognize the speed difference between the SD card and the internal memory, it still thought the phone is running at 70MB/s. So when it installs apps to the memory or start a game (was supposed to be in the internal memory, but now in the SD card), it took way more time (do the math yourself, 70/7=10). Are you willing to wait for 2 minutes for a game to start, which originally took 5 sec? How about the endless lagging in the app, every thing takes 2 sec to response?
Use Sandisk may get a different speed result, but the user experience in this case will be similar.
So don't force to use SD card as internal storage if the phone's manufacture doesn't approve doing so.
Hope my story help you in some way.

@darian_420
I have nst k1, my tests (samsung pro 64gb) are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...card-performance-comparison-exfat-vs-t3312982 post #8
I don't use adopted storage - I'm waiting for Nougat.
Ps.
Link2sd+ can move obbs to sdcard(external).
@dzpcool
Yours sd card(G.skill) is to slow. I'm using adopted storage in moto e 2nd and it's great idea.

dzidexx said:
@darian_420
I have nst k1, my tests (samsung pro 64gb) are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...card-performance-comparison-exfat-vs-t3312982 post #8
I don't use adopted storage - I'm waiting for Nougat.
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Link2sd+ can move obbs to sdcard(external).
@dzpcool
Yours sd card(G.skill) is to slow. I'm using adopted storage in moto e 2nd and it's great idea.
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Have you done speed test on the moto e 2 using adopted storage? In you google drive, I saw 2 test pic 81/62 and 47/28 MB/s, can you tell me which sd card and configuration did you use?

dzpcool said:
Have you done speed test on the moto e 2 using adopted storage? In you google drive, I saw 2 test pic 81/62 and 47/28 MB/s, can you tell me which sd card and configuration did you use?
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Look into my post before(here) and names of screens.
Moto e 2nd 28/21 the same card - adopted(mm&nougat, custom roms).
Tests are somewhere in moto thread.

dzidexx said:
Look into my post before(here) and names of screens.
Moto e 2nd 28/21 the same card - adopted(mm&nougat, custom roms).
Tests are somewhere in moto thread.
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My bad, didn't check post 8
Whether 47/28 or 28/21 are good, enough for daily use.
I was able to get 20 write with NTFS format. The problem is my LG Phoenix 2 (K371) is just terrible at handling adoptable storage. Considering it is less than half the price than MOTO E 2 (you can even get it $30 with deal), maybe the manufacture doesn't want or pay any effort to support adoptable storage. However, low-end budget phone happen to the one most need extra storage space, cause some of them even only have 8G ROM.
LG is different story, it seem oppose adoptable storage. Even high-end model like G4 doesn't support it in the stock rom.

dzpcool said:
...47/28 or 28/21 are good,...The problem is my LG Phoenix 2 (K371) is just terrible...
LG is different story, it seem oppose adoptable storage. Even high-end model like G4 doesn't support it in the stock rom.
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Lg g2 - you can flash custom rom and use faster sd card.
Lg, Samsung, Sony, Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei...blocked adopted storage.
They want you to buy a newer model with much memory.

dzidexx said:
Lg g2 - you can flash custom rom and use faster sd card.
Lg, Samsung, Sony, Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei...blocked adopted storage.
They want you to buy a newer model with much memory.
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Does Moto support it in the stock rom? If not, it seems Google is the only left among the named brand.
A budge phone brand BLU supports it. I guess some brands don't do it because they want you to buy more expensive model with bigger storage, while some want to keep the price competitive.

I don't know all brands.
Lenovo Moto, Htc, Nvidia - have adopted storage support with stock. @dzpcool

dzidexx said:
I don't know all brands.
Lenovo Moto, Htc, Nvidia - have adopted storage support with stock. @dzpcool
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Thanks for your reply.
Lenovo bought Moto (Their new phone is great, but the market share is not so great), and HTC is a dying company. I feel little to almost no hope seeing adopted storage on major brand phones : (

mortuus82 said:
So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
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I have the exact same problem. one day I randomly checked and the option was there but usually it isn't..