[Q] Downgrade from 4.3 to 4.1.2? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

From what I have been able to tell, it is not possible to downgrade from the 4.3 update to 4.1.2 I would just like to confirm that is the case? Is it possible to downgrade from 4.3 to an earlier version?
I would like to buy a Galaxy S3 SCH-I535 to use on Pageplus, and be able to flash ROMs etc. If I understand correctly, if the phone has already taken the 4.3 update then the bootloader is locked and flashing is not possible.

joelshort said:
From what I have been able to tell, it is not possible to downgrade from the 4.3 update to 4.1.2 I would just like to confirm that is the case? Is it possible to downgrade from 4.3 to an earlier version?
I would like to buy a Galaxy S3 SCH-I535 to use on Pageplus, and be able to flash ROMs etc. If I understand correctly, if the phone has already taken the 4.3 update then the bootloader is locked and flashing is not possible.
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Correct, downgrade not possible. Flashing custom TW 4.3 ROMs is possible using safestrap

I know it's possible through Odin. You will most likely lose your data.
Here, I found this video for you. Looks promising. Odin files are in description! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnBjJ7c1IAI
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aarongillion63 said:
I know it's possible through Odin.
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No, it isn't. The OP's statement:
"if the phone has already taken the 4.3 update then the bootloader is locked and flashing is not possible."
Is correct, although you can use safestrap as DigitalMD says to run other 4.3 Touchwiz ROMs.

DigitalMD said:
Correct, downgrade not possible. Flashing custom TW 4.3 ROMs is possible using safestrap
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So just to be clear I can flash 4.3 roms? I gather that rooting/flashing/recovery is a bit "easier" and less risky without the 4.3 update. I have flashed an old phone before (HTC Incredible 2) so I have some experience, but if there is significantly more risk involved with a 4.3 phone then I'll probably look for a phone that hasn't taken the update yet.

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joelshort said:
So just to be clear I can flash 4.3 roms? I gather that rooting/flashing/recovery is a bit "easier" and less risky without the 4.3 update. I have flashed an old phone before (HTC Incredible 2) so I have some experience, but if there is significantly more risk involved with a 4.3 phone then I'll probably look for a phone that hasn't taken the update yet.
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Mostly correct, TouchWiz 4.3 roms only, not aosp 4.3 roms, it's a big difference.
Read everything here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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[Q] Switching to Cyanogenmod on 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3

Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
ThePagel said:
I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
scarlyowl said:
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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ThePagel said:
Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
scarlyowl said:
Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
A_Dumas said:
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
HubbardWithAndroid said:
now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
landshark68 said:
No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
HubbardWithAndroid said:
Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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Is 4.3 bootloader still locked?

Haven't been on this site much the last couple of months. Are we who OTA'd to 4.3 still stuck here? I am still liking it and have it rooted but lately have been wanting to get on AOSP. Is there still no workaround for the bootloader knox lock?
joshua5683 said:
Haven't been on this site much the last couple of months. Are we who OTA'd to 4.3 still stuck here? I am still liking it and have it rooted but lately have been wanting to get on AOSP. Is there still no workaround for the bootloader knox lock?
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Still locked, we do have safestrap that will allow you to flash custom 4.3 TouchWiz roms.
Everything related to this update is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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BadUsername said:
Still locked, we do have safestrap that will allow you to flash custom 4.3 TouchWiz roms.
Everything related to this update is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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Touchwiz 4.3 roms only? Not really worth it is it? There's only a few custom 4.3 TW roms out there and I am satisfied with stock. I'll wait until they get AOSP working. Thank you.

Update to 4.3 or stick to 4.1.2

I have yet to take the 4.3 update due to hearing of battery and wifi issues when it first came out and not being able to root it. Of course, there is now a way to root the phone and I don't care about unlocking the bootloader as I don't plan on installing any custom roms. I only want root.
What I want to know is what are people's experience with 4.3...
1) What is good/better about 4.3 versus 4.1.2 that would give me a reason to want to update?
2) What is bad about 4.3? Are the battery/wifi issues just isolated issues or is everyone having issues and would you recommend sticking to 4.1.2?
Thanks!
I didn't take the 4.3. My bro did. He didn't like it lag more then usual that was his main complain. I suggest root it add recovery and install a TW 4.3 that wont lock ur bootloader
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hollywoodfrodo said:
I have yet to take the 4.3 update due to hearing of battery and wifi issues when it first came out and not being able to root it. Of course, there is now a way to root the phone and I don't care about unlocking the bootloader as I don't plan on installing any custom roms. I only want root.
What I want to know is what are people's experience with 4.3...
1) What is good/better about 4.3 versus 4.1.2 that would give me a reason to want to update?
2) What is bad about 4.3? Are the battery/wifi issues just isolated issues or is everyone having issues and would you recommend sticking to 4.1.2?
Thanks!
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Best bet and my suggestion is if you already have an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2 do not take the OTA hence keeping the unlocked bootloader. I'm running wicked sensations 4.3 and I haven't noticed a huge difference personally. There is a fix for the wifi issue from what I've read
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twistedillutions said:
I didn't take the 4.3. My bro did. He didn't like it lag more then usual that was his main complain. I suggest root it add recovery and install a TW 4.3 that wont lock ur bootloader
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I agree completely with this guy. Gives you MANY more options. Once you take the OTA I think you're basically stuck with it whether you like it or not. I love the fact that I rooted and am now running CM11 (Kit Kat) on a two year old phone, its wonderful!
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[Q] possible hardbrick

Okay so I have a gs3 that is no longer responding to power buttons or cables or new batteries. Is it possible I can fix it? This all happened when I was trying to flash back to stock.
m4gkman said:
Okay so I have a gs3 that is no longer responding to power buttons or cables or new batteries. Is it possible I can fix it? This all happened when I was trying to flash back to stock.
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We need quite a bit more info before we can help you out. What version of Android were you running before you tried to flash back to stock, 4.1.2, 4.3, or 4.4.2? Were you stock or running a custom ROM? What version of stock were you trying to flash, 4.1.2 or 4.3? From where did you get the stock file you tried to flash?
landshark68 said:
We need quite a bit more info before we can help you out. What version of Android were you running before you tried to flash back to stock, 4.1.2, 4.3, or 4.4.2? Were you stock or running a custom ROM? What version of stock were you trying to flash, 4.1.2 or 4.3? From where did you get the stock file you tried to flash?
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sorry about the lack of info I don't have the phone in front of me. I was running 4.3 using hyper drive. I tried flashing the stock 4.3 image and that's when it got stuck.
m4gkman said:
sorry about the lack of info I don't have the phone in front of me. I was running 4.3 using hyper drive. I tried flashing the stock 4.3 image and that's when it got stuck.
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Looking in the development section, I see Hyperdrive is still on 4.1.2, so if you were running Hyperdrive you were on 4.1.2. The problem may have come from flashing the 4.3 stock image on a rooted, bootlaoder unlocked phone. Were you no longer wanting to have an unlocked bootloader and run custom ROMs, because flashing the 4.3 stock image would have locked you down like that. Are you sure you flashed a stock 4.3 file? If so you would probably have to proceed as if you were already on stock 4.3 just to play it safe. This may be you best chance at regaining a functioning phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
Unfortunately since you phone does no boot, there is no way to confirm if it is currently on 4.1.2 or 4.3. That would give us a definitive answer on which fix method to use.
landshark68 said:
Looking in the development section, I see Hyperdrive is still on 4.1.2, so if you were running Hyperdrive you were on 4.1.2. The problem may have come from flashing the 4.3 stock image on a rooted, bootlaoder unlocked phone. Were you no longer wanting to have an unlocked bootloader and run custom ROMs, because flashing the 4.3 stock image would have locked you down like that. Are you sure you flashed a stock 4.3 file? If so you would probably have to proceed as if you were already on stock 4.3 just to play it safe. This may be you best chance at regaining a functioning phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
Unfortunately since you phone does no boot, there is no way to confirm if it is currently on 4.1.2 or 4.3. That would give us a definitive answer on which fix method to use.
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I'm sorry for the lack of information again :/ trying to help a friend out by fixing my old phone. Basically I was having space issues with safe strap so I tried to revert to stock and then this horrible mess happened. What you said is most likely true. I looked at that guide, but if it doesn't respond to any cables or power on how can I flash things to it?
m4gkman said:
I'm sorry for the lack of information again :/ trying to help a friend out by fixing my old phone. Basically I was having space issues with safe strap so I tried to revert to stock and then this horrible mess happened. What you said is most likely true. I looked at that guide, but if it doesn't respond to any cables or power on how can I flash things to it?
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If you were on safestrap, shouldn't you have had a fully stock ROM in the stock slot? Also from everything I read, you couldn't run Hyperdrive on safestap because you can only run 4.3 TW ROMs on safestrap. If you were running safestrap, that would mean you were on the 4.3 OTA of VRUCML1 and fixes for that would be your best bet, but since the phone won't power on I don't think any of the fixes here would work. Best bet may be to send it out for JTAG repair. I've seen mobile tech videos mentioned a lot for JTAG repairs.
landshark68 said:
If you were on safestrap, shouldn't you have had a fully stock ROM in the stock slot? Also from everything I read, you couldn't run Hyperdrive on safestap because you can only run 4.3 TW ROMs on safestrap. If you were running safestrap, that would mean you were on the 4.3 OTA of VRUCML1 and fixes for that would be your best bet, but since the phone won't power on I don't think any of the fixes here would work. Best bet may be to send it out for JTAG repair. I've seen mobile tech videos mentioned a lot for JTAG repairs.
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Lol wow I'm really sorry, I've had a lot going on this week and my brain is all over the place. I was confusing my current s4 and the s3. The s3 was running regular cwm and was running Hyperdrive. I was having usual force closes and such and wanted to flash back to stock and I'm pretty sure I used the wrong file.
m4gkman said:
Lol wow I'm really sorry, I've had a lot going on this week and my brain is all over the place. I was confusing my current s4 and the s3. The s3 was running regular cwm and was running Hyperdrive. I was having usual force closes and such and wanted to flash back to stock and I'm pretty sure I used the wrong file.
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Oh man, that sucks. Do you think you possibly used an s4 file on your s3? If so, you will definitely have to send it out for JTAG repair if you can't get any response out of it. But it can't hurt to check out that thread I linked earlier and see if the SD card method can work for you. Good luck.
landshark68 said:
Oh man, that sucks. Do you think you possibly used an s4 file on your s3? If so, you will definitely have to send it out for JTAG repair if you can't get any response out of it. But it can't hurt to check out that thread I linked earlier and see if the SD card method can work for you. Good luck.
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so i just got back to my apartment, and i actually have the gs3 with me now. when the battery is in, nothing works or responds. however if I pull the battery and plug it in, the red led light comes on. any ideas?
m4gkman said:
so i just got back to my apartment, and i actually have the gs3 with me now. when the battery is in, nothing works or responds. however if I pull the battery and plug it in, the red led light comes on. any ideas?
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Hard bricked.
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BadUsername said:
Hard bricked.
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I'm trying the guide right now, will post results after
BadUsername said:
Hard bricked.
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It worked! you guys are amazing.
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Hard bricked.
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okay so now that im back to normal, is everything unrooted and everything? heres what it says in my about phone,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/skaterdave/13392301694/in/photostream/
m4gkman said:
okay so now that im back to normal, is everything unrooted and everything? heres what it says in my about phone,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/skaterdave/13392301694/in/photostream/
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Yup, unrooted but you're on 4.3 now.
So you need to follow everything in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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BadUsername said:
Yup, unrooted but you're on 4.3 now.
So you need to follow everything in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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okay, thanks a lot. looks like rooting and stuff with this will now be just like my s4
m4gkman said:
okay, thanks a lot. looks like rooting and stuff with this will now be just like my s4
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Exactly, pretty much the exact same.
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[Q] 4.4 or 4.4.4 Rom

Hey All
Since I'm on a locked boot loader NC1 or ML1 shouldn't matter .. can i install a 4.4.4 or 4.4 rom ? i know i would have to do it thru safestrap but would it be possible ? i thought i could only flash 4.3 touchwiz nothing higher ?
Any help would be nice
Thanks
jcbjoe said:
Hey All
Since I'm on a locked boot loader NC1 or ML1 shouldn't matter .. can i install a 4.4.4 or 4.4 rom ? i know i would have to do it thru safestrap but would it be possible ? i thought i could only flash 4.3 touchwiz nothing higher ?
Any help would be nice
Thanks
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No, you cannot flash a 4.4.4 or 4.4 ROM. If you are on 4.3 NC1 or ML1, you are restricted to running only 4.3 touchwiz based ROMs through safestrap. Ever since the 4.3 ML1 update, different components of the phone (kernel, bootloader, etc.) are signed with a key which must match in order for the phone to boot up. That is why you are restricted to 4.3 touchwiz ROMs in safestrap. They have to be able to run off the 4.3 stock kernel. A 4.4 touchwiz ROM will not have the same key signature verification as a 4.3 touchwiz ROM. And you are definitely not capable of running any kind of AOSP ROM now that your bootloader is locked.
landshark68 said:
No, you cannot flash a 4.4.4 or 4.4 ROM. If you are on 4.3 NC1 or ML1, you are restricted to running only 4.3 touchwiz based ROMs through safestrap. Ever since the 4.3 ML1 update, different components of the phone (kernel, bootloader, etc.) are signed with a key which must match in order for the phone to boot up. That is why you are restricted to 4.3 touchwiz ROMs in safestrap. They have to be able to run off the 4.3 stock kernel. A 4.4 touchwiz ROM will not have the same key signature verification as a 4.3 touchwiz ROM. And you are definitely not capable of running any kind of AOSP ROM now that your bootloader is locked.
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Thanks for that reply I needed it.. Next question is why are there services out there that can downgrade the NC1 OR ML1 baseband? They could be scams but I'm just wondering.. Is it just the fact that a device or hacker hasn't found the correct exploit?
Thanks
jcbjoe said:
Thanks for that reply I needed it.. Next question is why are there services out there that can downgrade the NC1 OR ML1 baseband? They could be scams but I'm just wondering.. Is it just the fact that a device or hacker hasn't found the correct exploit?
Thanks
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You are limited to TW based ROMs, they must be the same version of android. You can ODIN to stock 4.3 and take the 4.4 OTA or KIES
DigitalMD said:
You are limited to TW based ROMs, they must be the same version of android. You can ODIN to stock 4.3 and take the 4.4 OTA or KIES
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Thanks for the reply I know I can go back to ML1 then safestrap 4.3 custom rooms.. What is the kies thing.. Will this mess up safestrap?
jcbjoe said:
Thanks for the reply I know I can go back to ML1 then safestrap 4.3 custom rooms.. What is the kies thing.. Will this mess up safestrap?
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Kies is Samsungs desktop application for doing OTA updates.Its does the same thing as an OTA or ODIN.
If you want to use safestrap stay on 4.3 until the developers have it all worked out for 4.4 .
DigitalMD said:
Kies is Samsungs desktop application for doing OTA updates.Its does the same thing as an OTA or ODIN.
If you want to use safestrap stay on 4.3 until the developers have it all worked out for 4.4 .
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Thanks
jcbjoe said:
Thanks for that reply I needed it.. Next question is why are there services out there that can downgrade the NC1 OR ML1 baseband? They could be scams but I'm just wondering.. Is it just the fact that a device or hacker hasn't found the correct exploit?
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There is a service that people claim to be able to downgrade the bootloader to 4.1 from 4.3 so you can unlock your bootloader.
I think mobile tech videos does it, and if they offer it then it wouldn't be a scam. Just not sure how much it would cost, or if it'd be worth it to you.
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