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Ok, so I am on my second One X now and both have had more than 1 dead/stuck pixel. You probably have some too and just haven't noticed it yet. The easiest way to check is to set the brightness to max then set the background to full black (you can get dead pixel testers from the market). You will see small bright spots. Look closely and maybe you might have to tilt the phone to slight angles to catch the sub pixels.
One phone I have has 13 bad pixels and the other has 3. Terrible QC.
My second replacement device had a handful of buggy pixels. They would flash on certain backgrounds. Got my third replacement, and it is perfect. I have no intention of painstakingly examining for ones I can't see. If I can't see them I don't want to know about them.
Rabble rabble rabble.
If i have to do all that to notice them then I am not worried about it.
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powerwagon said:
If i have to do all that to notice them then I am not worried about it.
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The thing is you will eventually notice them and then by then it might be too late to exchange it. It's not like setting the screen to max brightness and a solid black background is something that will never happen on your device...
I have only one. I can only see it if i look for it hard though at an angle. Not enough for me to go out and replace risking a worse one. But kinda discouraging... Still in my 30 to decide if to keep in general
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The thing is you will eventually notice them and then by then it might be too late to exchange it. It's not like setting the screen to max brightness and a solid black background is something that will never happen on your device...
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No no, it really is.
I have zero. I have ocd about dead pixles and have been checking every other day
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I must have got lucky because my One X doesn't seem to have any dead or stuck pixels. I remember my PSP having multiple stuck pixels and that drove me crazy each time I used it because a couple were in the middle of the screen.
my first one had one dead pixel and back light bleed on the bottom, replaced it and my replacement is perfect.
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No dead pixels here. Like davis, I had a stuck pixel on my PSP and it drove me nuts (replacement screen i got for 40$ from hong kong so nbd) Theres a tiny scratch in the glass of my Captivate which holds skin oil and refracts different colors like a CRT screen would do. That is by far much more annoying to me.
I got my phone yesterday and didnt notice it then, but now I see a dead pixel right smack in the center of the screen. It only shows on much lighter backgrounds, but my eyes keep gravitating to it. I might have to get it replaced. I hate that because I have my phone completely how I want it set up right now.
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If i have to do all that to notice them then I am not worried about it.
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exactly what i was thinking
I found one that I can see ONLY when I use a screen test app on black background in the top right corner...going to exchange it. It's free to do so...so why the hell not?
Wow. This thread had me worried, as I've not closely examined my display yet.
I used a dead pixel tester from the market. Set brightness to 100%. The app cycled through several colors, including black and white.
I have 0 dead\stuck pixels. What a relief
No dead pixels for me either!
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I must have got lucky because my One X doesn't seem to have any dead or stuck pixels. I remember my PSP having multiple stuck pixels and that drove me crazy each time I used it because a couple were in the middle of the screen.
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Dude, I remember buying the original psp on launch from my local bestbuy, bought the extended warranty they offered for up to 2 years and took my psp back to them after a 1.5 years and switched for a brand new one. My problem was 2 dead pixels on the bottom of the screen.
I've got one dead pixel. Either that or it's a piece of dust. Prolly dust since it's grey and doesn't really light up. Luckily it's in the top left corner and I have a grey widget there. You can't really see it.
*looks for it*
Actually... I can't find it today. It was there before, I swear.
Maybe it was actually dust....
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Checked the first day. Found none. Not going to be obsessively looking for one at this point. Had a little light bleed at the bottom, but i turned off the backlight on the capacitive buttons. I prefer it that way. Better reading/watching experience in dim environments.
Found one in the upper right corner. Impossible to notice unless I have a dark background present. Added with the fact that the screen is super high res its so small that I could care less.
I'm not going to risk receiving a phone with more problems for 1 dead pixel which I barely notice.
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Found one in the upper right corner. Impossible to notice unless I have a dark background present. Added with the fact that the screen is super high res its so small that I could care less.
I'm not going to risk receiving a phone with more problems for 1 dead pixel which I barely notice.
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My thoughts exactly.
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bradleyG said:
my first one had one dead pixel and back light bleed on the bottom, replaced it and my replacement is perfect.
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I'm on my 3rd (and final) One X but all three I've had haven't had any dead pixels.
Btw can someone post a picture of what the light bleed looks like? I'd like to know if mine has it but I don't know what to look for. Everything seems ok.
After reading many build and quality issues with the 1.73 original shipment handsets, I was wondering if people with the factory 1.85 second shipment handsets are seeing the same issues.
Personally I have a second shipment 1.85 handset and it is very well built, great on battery, no dead pixels on any color, rarely gets hotter than warm, very minimal light bleed on lower right corner on all black screen, no corners lifting up and running like a superstar with clean Rom 3.0(ran outstanding on factory 1.85 also).
Only issue I am having is the phone seems to take longer to charge than my inspire or vivid with real HTC charger. I have tried more than one. Not so long that I think there is an issue, just longer than I have experienced in the past.
Please post your experiences with 1.73 vs 1.85 handsets and maybe we can figure out what has been fixed on the production line so far.
Personally I think they definitely tweaked it and fixed some early build issues.
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I had an original 1.73 and dropped it so I replaced it and got a 1.85 device. For me, they are both EXACTLY the same. Never had any issues on the first one.
I got a 1.85 One X about a week ago. Strangely, the box it arrived in was somewhat warm (for whatever reason), and the device was warm when I first took it out of the box, but I don't believe that's affected anything on the phone. Everything seems in good shape with this model; my only question is the light bleed you're referring to on the bottom right corner of the display. I think I have that too. When it's an all black display, or at least all black in the bottom right corner, it seems to be a little bit "brighter" in that area, so to speak. I also notice that the "stage light" arrangement for the backlit display on the bottom of the display (above the capacitive buttons) seems a little brighter in that bottom right corner. Sorry for the rambling, but is that what you're referring to?
On a side note, that "stage light" appearance of the backlights on the bottom of the display are supposed to be like that, according to an HTC Customer Representative. In case any of you were wondering lol.
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On a side note, that "stage light" appearance of the backlights on the bottom of the display are supposed to be like that, according to an HTC Customer Representative. In case any of you were wondering lol.
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4 of my HOXs had those "stage lights" as you call them, one didn't have them at all. The one that didn't have them had a really crappy screen that was all washed out and had yellowish whites. All the ones that did have them had vivid colors and bright white whites. Be happy your display is the one with the visible backlights, the other one sucks.
Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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This one that I just got today *seems* perfect. I say seems because as history has taught me 4 times over, only time will tell.
I have a 1.73 and have had zero issues with build, the only issue I had was software (clock not updating time when on wifi and coming out of deep sleep)...which has not returned since the 1.85 update. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader and currently running cleanrom 3.0, standard...and DEV editions! It has never run hot, screen is flawless, and I am happy
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I dont think having 1.85 on the phone qualify the device as second shipment. Maybe one of the many numbers on the box would indicate to this. My first was 1.73 but had a dead pixel, then my second was 1.85 and was about the same minus the dead pixel.
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This one that I just got today *seems* perfect. I say seems because as history has taught me 4 times over, only time will tell.
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I could give you an electron and you would probably find something wrong with it compared to all the other electrons.
He would complain that he could predict where it is but never find it!
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I could give you an electron and you would probably find something wrong with it compared to all the other electrons.
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As long as the electron had a separating screen, faulty sim reader, terrible battery life and dust under the screen, or a bad vibration motor and overheating problems, then yeah, you're probably right.
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Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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i had my first one replaced at bestbuy for dead pixels. He took out a new one x and had dust under the screen. So he set that one aside and gave me another which over all is good. However when I push down on the screen I can see an ink looking blotch show up for a second. Kind of annoying.
Agreed -Does take longer to charge
But I love the battery life on the HOX running 1.85.
I've had mine a couple days before it released on AT&T officially and my co worker has a white One X from the second shipment and our battery life is identical. Give or take an hour or so but build is exactly the same. We do this for a living and are very particular about our devices. I actually swapped mine out twice until I got the perfect one -_-
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So glad I DOA'd my phone. Battery life is much better. Haven't had any wifi issues anymore. And the vibrate motor doesn't rattle.
I can't tell the difference between the two build quality wise. I know that I battery life changes drastically from phone to phone. The grey one I had the battery was perfect. I thought it was getting too hot so I exchanged it. Boy do I wish I didn't. These replacements aren't coming close to that battery life. I'm doing all I can to get one that does and hey if AT&T wants to keep sending me replacements then I'll take em.
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Omg after reading this and inspecting my phone I feel like I am going crazy
I have always bought Samsung for the last few years but thought of give the new HTC one a chance how I regret it
3 replacements and still have issues so I've thrown in the towel and arranged a replacement in a few weeks to the s4 so back to Samsung I come
Question one of the biggest things with the one is the speakers I presume the s4 will still have tiny speakers ?
Have Samsung sorted the emmc chip problem out as my note 2 died onme hence jumping ship
Tbh im looking forward to turning to Samsung just hope the handset is as good as people make out
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I have always bought Samsung for the last few years but thought of give the new HTC one a chance how I regret it
3 replacements and still have issues so I've thrown in the towel and arranged a replacement in a few weeks to the s4 so back to Samsung I come
Question one of the biggest things with the one is the speakers I presume the s4 will still have tiny speakers ?
Have Samsung sorted the emmc chip problem out as my note 2 died onme hence jumping ship
Tbh im looking forward to turning to Samsung just hope the handset is as good as people make out
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check out the reviews thread. one of them has comparisons of the speakers. i have an S3 and it's not tiny. the S4 is supposed to be a little louder in some aspects so it'll be fine. prob not HTC One loudness but it won't be tiny sounding.
not sure about emmc. looks like it was sorted out back with the S2/Note 1. i'd suspect it would be fixed for S4.
edit: off topic, what was wrong with all 3 of your HTC One's?
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I have always bought Samsung for the last few years but thought of give the new HTC one a chance how I regret it
3 replacements and still have issues so I've thrown in the towel and arranged a replacement in a few weeks to the s4 so back to Samsung I come
Question one of the biggest things with the one is the speakers I presume the s4 will still have tiny speakers ?
Have Samsung sorted the emmc chip problem out as my note 2 died onme hence jumping ship
Tbh im looking forward to turning to Samsung just hope the handset is as good as people make out
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Your name is familiar either with the S3 or nexus 4 forum.... Anyways
What was wrong with the One?
Might be time to change your signature, eh? "HTC one... Best phone I've ever had"
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check out the reviews thread. one of them has comparisons of the speakers. i have an S3 and it's not tiny. the S4 is supposed to be a little louder in some aspects so it'll be fine. prob not HTC One loudness but it won't be tiny sounding.
not sure about emmc. looks like it was sorted out back with the S2/Note 1. i'd suspect it would be fixed for S4.
edit: off topic, what was wrong with all 3 of your HTC One's?
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Hi mrvirginia
The first one had an issue with the camera when taking video's had an awful hiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ1xApO0wN8
also the home / back button didn't work properly (and still the case on my 3rd replacement hence why ive thrown the towel in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZBhJiFfjY
Second one which arrived - well what can I say !
Proximity sensor didn't work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otsa0_gkVI8
Back/home lights didn't work - presume down to the sensor not working
and it also had an horrendous screen problem where white glowed through because it wasn't sealed
I don't think ill get htc one speaker quality just don't want really low
Really disappointed at HTC but now know why I went to Samsung
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Might be time to change your signature, eh? "HTC one... Best phone I've ever had"
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Changed :fingers-crossed:
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Hi mrvirginia
The first one had an issue with the camera when taking video's had an awful hiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ1xApO0wN8
also the home / back button didn't work properly (and still the case on my 3rd replacement hence why ive thrown the towel in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZBhJiFfjY
Second one which arrived - well what can I say !
Proximity sensor didn't work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otsa0_gkVI8
Back/home lights didn't work - presume down to the sensor not working
and it also had an horrendous screen problem where white glowed through because it wasn't sealed
I don't think ill get htc one speaker quality just don't want really low
Really disappointed at HTC but now know why I went to Samsung
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I never htc phine and i always used samsung phone so far. Since i use sg3 now i was going to give htc one this time, but seeing you had third replacement with different problems i think i will wait for either sg4 or something else.
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Hi mrvirginia
The first one had an issue with the camera when taking video's had an awful hiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ1xApO0wN8
also the home / back button didn't work properly (and still the case on my 3rd replacement hence why ive thrown the towel in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZBhJiFfjY
Second one which arrived - well what can I say !
Proximity sensor didn't work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otsa0_gkVI8
Back/home lights didn't work - presume down to the sensor not working
and it also had an horrendous screen problem where white glowed through because it wasn't sealed
I don't think ill get htc one speaker quality just don't want really low
Really disappointed at HTC but now know why I went to Samsung
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man, that sucks. well, in the past i've had more problems with Sammy phones over HTC. S2 had a nickel sized ring on the screen that i didn't notice until after it was too late to send back. Galaxy Nexus had banding issue and when i sold it, it had been used for about 6mon and then off for a straight 6mon. turned it on and it had some bad burn-in lines. S3 screen has a few black splotches when looking at completely black screen in a dark room. had the HTC One X when it first came out and the only thing wrong with it was a loose volume rocker on the first one. second one was perfect but i just ended up not liking that device. so yeah, Samsung just typically has issues with it's AMOLED displays, pentile or not. also, the S3 i have is my 3rd one haha. first one had backlight bleed. second one had very loose power/volume rocker. this 3rd one has a loose power button but i gave up at that point and just said whatever. here's to hoping the S4 is perfect...
I imagine ever phone has issues when launched I can't think of one that has been great first time. Maybe the iPhone 4S I can't remember any glaring issues from that. But I have had problems with a lot of devices when I purchase them first off. I'd maybe wait for the S4 until others get it then see if it has issues. Not ever HTC One is a bad device either.
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I imagine ever phone has issues when launched I can't think of one that has been great first time. Maybe the iPhone 4S I can't remember any glaring issues from that. But I have had problems with a lot of devices when I purchase them first off. I'd maybe wait for the S4 until others get it then see if it has issues. Not ever HTC One is a bad device either.
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couldn't agree more
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Question one of the biggest things with the one is the speakers I presume the s4 will still have tiny speakers ?
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The speakers are twice the size of the N2 and three times the size of the SGS3. Here's GSMArena's conclusion after comparing the two...
Winner: HTC One. The Galaxy S4 is a tad louder, but the HTC One takes this one with well-positioned stereo speakers and far nicer sound in general.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p5.php
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I imagine ever phone has issues when launched I can't think of one that has been great first time.
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I had a Teg3 One X I got last March from the first batch built and it was perfect. But there were a ton of h/w and s/w releated QC issues and people on the forum weren't exactly happy. The One's experiencing them too and people saying "my third exchange seems to be better" isn't uncommon. HTC chooses incredibly complicated designs which look great but are a ***** to manufacture consistently. Beauty has its price.
My first SIII had a defect, the volume buttons were so loose that when the phone vibrated, they would rattle inside the device! Not that I'm going to complain too much about it, I kept it for almost the full 60 days I had to return it at Best Buy with Silver rewards membership, and I'm on the same one since August 2012....
One thing I wanted to mention in this whole discussion is.... who drops an SIII for an iPhone 5, after having the 4 and 4S? Hell, it's enough to switch between brands of Android manufacturers to understand how things work on the different phones, but between operating systems? That would drive me crazy, aside from the fact that even trying to use a locked down OS would make me want to throw that stupid thing against a brick wall!
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Have Samsung sorted the emmc chip problem out as my note 2 died onme hence jumping ship
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Ye, you did the right thing by going back to samsung as the quality is perfect. No issues! Just that phones completly dying after about half a year.
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Ye, you did the right thing by going back to samsung as the quality is perfect. No issues! Just that phones completly dying after about half a year.
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Lol experienced that with my note 2 .... hence why I jumped ship however I regret doing that and cant wait for the s4
Just hope I don't experience the same with the s4 as im stuck on a 2yr contract
One bonus with Sammy is I have a proper repair centre 5 mins from me in Manchester and they sorted my Note 2 out for me
In the same boat, just called today and said I want to swap my contract to a GS4. I just hope I get a good one first time, Samsung have never let me down before. It is a shame though as I really wanted to like the One, I liked a lot about it, just the build quality was very poor and it was a dead/stuck pixel heaven on that screen.
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My first SIII had a defect, the volume buttons were so loose that when the phone vibrated, they would rattle inside the device! Not that I'm going to complain too much about it, I kept it for almost the full 60 days I had to return it at Best Buy with Silver rewards membership, and I'm on the same one since August 2012....
One thing I wanted to mention in this whole discussion is.... who drops an SIII for an iPhone 5, after having the 4 and 4S? Hell, it's enough to switch between brands of Android manufacturers to understand how things work on the different phones, but between operating systems? That would drive me crazy, aside from the fact that even trying to use a locked down OS would make me want to throw that stupid thing against a brick wall!
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I had a dodgy S3 on release, I was one of the first in the forum if I remember & I switch phone OS's loads. Doesnt bother me at all I could happily live with an iPhone or an android phone. I preferred the 5 to the S3 my opinion obviously but I'm using the One now and liking it
I've had 2 HTC phones and absolutely hated them both. Problems galore...
The GS4 is my first jump into a Samsung smartphone. All my other techy friends left HTC for Samsung and never looked back.
Crossing my fingers. I know that there are/can be issues with the first batch but I'm not letting HTC bite me in the ass for a 3rd time. This thread is proof that I can't trust them anymore, no matter how good the reviews for the HTC One are.
Sorry guys but my opinion about some of you is, that you are really bored and looking for something perfection that is not normal.
I don't mean that to serious problems like pixel errors or something similar serious problem.
I mean, that if you are satisfied with your phone and you probably find a little problem (like a volume key not being perfect or the unibody is 0,02 inch bigger on one side) you surely know that you can send your phone to guaranty departement if the tiny problem is getting "bigger".
Not just that. you post it big on forums to show how unhappy you are, but there is another star in the dark sky shining on you and you illusions.
Most people of this kind also don't have really good social contacts, like having a good girlfriend for example.
Please do not see this as an personal attack. It is just something that someone wants you to know, that you are not happy for real...
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Sorry guys but my opinion about some of you is, that you are so bored and looking for something perfection that is not normal.
I don't mean that to serious problems like pixel errors or something similar serious problem.
I mean, that if you are satisfied with your phone and you probably find a little problem (like a volume key not being perfect or the unibody is 0,02 inch bigger on one side) you surely know that you can send your phone to guaranty departement if the tiny problem is getting "bigger".
Not just that. you post it big on forums to show how unhappy you are, but there is another star in the dark sky shining on you and you illusions.
Most people of this kind also don't have really good social contacts, like having a good girlfriend for example.
Please do not see this as an personal attack. It is just something that someone wants you to know, that you are not happy for real...
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Maybe your English is poor, but I agree and this is hilarious. Haha." you are not happy for real". Classic. :beer:
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Maybe your English is poor, but I agree and this is hilarious. Haha." you are not happy for real". Classic. :beer:
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I meant something like: going shopping if you are unhappy with your life or searching for a hair in the soup to get involved with the restaurant, but in reality your wife just left you.
I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Best thing would be to wait for the dev's and see what they come up with. They did great with the N4, so I'm hoping it'll be the same on the N5. I do think the display is incredibly warm. Having it side by side with my N4 is striking.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it)
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Yes, thanks, you're right--color temp does go through yellow as it gets warmer before getting to red. So, thanks for the correction.
That said, it's not a _consistent_ thing, or at least hasn't been in the past with other devices. I have a Nexus 10, for example, that is much colder (with white whites, not blueish, so I'm calling it right in the middle) than many others that I tried out side-by-side. It also seems to get better with given devices as the manufacturing process goes on--for example, it was a problem early in the lifecycle of the iPad 3 but then became consistently over time (if forum complaints about it can be taken as evidence).
So, personally, I think that it's simply very difficult to make consistent LCD panels with these resolutions and at these price points. Perhaps someone like LG does a better job of quality control in making their higher-priced G2 than they do screens for their Nexus 5; I haven't read about this being a problem with the LG G2's screen, which I think is similar technology.
Anyways, it definitely makes an impact on the quality of the experience. I might be much more sensitive to it than others, and some people might actually prefer their screen warmer--although I wonder if they would if they hold it next to a screen that has truer whites. Really, the difference in contrast is what's most striking, to me at least.
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Oh, and, I think you're right about the brightness levels as well-it does seem to get a touch better when the screen is brighter.
this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
Here's a really good article discussing what's going on here: http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/color_temperature_on_an_LCD_monitor/
Look at about 3/4 down the page, they have examples that demonstrate what we're seeing quite nicely. Not only are whites more yellow, but to my eyes colors wash out the warmer the display.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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This guy is right. Give it a week and it will get better. Not perfect, but it won't be as yellow.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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You're right , when it's a glue problem usually there's just spots, not a solid yellow tone over the screen, so what can we do? try to exchange the phone, are there nexus 5 with colder screen or are they all so yellow?
I had a galaxy nexus with a terribly yellow screen, let me tell it NEVER got better , even after months of use :crying:
This video shows the difference between the N4 and N5. Wait until it gets to the browser speed comparison, you can see the screen is yellower on the N5 and the UI contrast is less. Note that the apparent difference on mine is much greater, so either this is variation or the video mutes the difference.
http://fullyc.com/watch-speed-test-every-google-nexus-phone-see-wonders-nexus-5/
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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You mean with new batches of the phone?
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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both
Chad_Petree said:
You mean with new batches of the phone?
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Probably not. I don't think anything is wrong with the screens of our phones. They're just calibrated wrong by Google or LG.
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Comparing my Nexus 5 by eye to my calibrated (sRGB, 6500k white point) monitor, the Nexus 5 has a very slight blue push. The Nexus 4, however, is INCREDIBLY blue. Like 9300k blue. If you're used to the Nexus 4, the Nexus 5 will look yellow, but it's the Nexus 4 that is out of whack in this case.
Return it. No yellows here.
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Return it. No yellows here.
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Could you post pictures comparing it to other phones ? Your laptop maybe ?
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After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Yeah out of all phones I've ever ordered, this one is by far my favorite. Ridiculous battery life, no lag, great screen, no gimmicks (edge sense is actually quite useful - I use it to launch my camera immediately when I'm out and about), excellent camera, doesn't overheat, crystal clear call quality, loud speaker set up... Only thing I don't like is News Republic chewing up my battery and not being able to disable it.
I haven't even rooted it yet. Every other phone I've rooted within a week, oftentimes the day I've received it. I ordered it May 16th from HTC on pre-order and got it on June 9th. No phone has ever been in my possession that long without being modded somehow, even if it was just changing the launcher.
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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I'm very OCD regarding LCD screen and the phone itself. The phone is perfect except for the light bleeding, a stuck pixel and some sound static in earphone. Otherwise the phone is perfect like the camera, sound, battery life and performance.
As I bought the phone from Hong Kong its a pain in the... To return it. So with a 10% discount off that seller gave me I learned to enjoy and love the phone.
My HTC One X, M8x, 10 U11 and the S8+ all suffered from flaws being the S8+ the worst (random restarting and pinkish screen tone) so I'm not a lucky person about phones.
@evak2979 i sent you a message but basically it's about accepting defeat when it comes to small flaws, unfortunately there's not more to it. Although of course, if your phone has serious build issues that no one else has it should go back to HTC.
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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Like I told my new pal on PM, I got the S8+ new for a very good price (539, UK).
If that sinks, I'll bite the bullet and return to HTC. It's funny because I don't mind scuffs, or scratches, or what. I just want a normal okay screen. I remember being happy with Note 4, with S5, With M8, With M9.
Then this new fashion started with every display being the dumbs
And the S8+ arrived with dust under the glass.
I've fought for a long time with my OCD to accept that AMOLEDs will never have consistent whites (though my one plus 3t is perfect, the one phone I've kept over the months). As of late with the S8 it's also been, full red edges, dead pixels, dust specs.
Let's try the U11 again. If it just has light bleed and no dead pixels I'll keep it...
I don't have light bleed.
I use edge to launch my calendar.
Sound through the earphones is shockingly good!
It looks dated in any other color but blue or red.
Those bezels? Ug.
The screen is beautiful and they've coated with oleophilics that feel INCREDIBLE.
The camera is excellent.
It's a very VERY good phone.
I have it on mine, but It's hardly even noticeable... Definitely not a game-changer for me. It's not enough for me to return it for a new one.
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
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Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
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Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Nah mine is dead dead.
I am considering a 4th U11. At this point, I don't even care about the light bleed. But 3/3 with dead pixels, it can't just be bad luck. That's the thing. I mean this is very bad QC. None of the reviewers are mentioning things like this. Or the issues with the S8 screen.
I think at this point someone needs to step up and say : ok guys, these are the GOOD things about the phone. But there is also
S8 (red tints, even after patch. Bad smudges on grey. Dust particles under panel)
U11 (Dead pixels. Light bleed at bottom of the screen).
In the end, the only trustworthy review is XDA forums and its users.