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Just bad luck? 2 Sensations, 3 days.

Hi all! New poster here, old reader
I've just gone thru my second Sensation now (in 3 days), had 2 DOA's in a row. The first had the blue light "leakage" down at the home button and the headphone jack was defect. The other one had a battery cover that did'nt quite fit, the screen would creek and move some when you pressed it, the volume rocker was loose and it had touch issues.
I'm VERY dissapointed with the original Sensation and I've never used a DOA before this phone my entire life and now 2 in a row.
Now I got a gift card with the money instead, since I don't dare to pick up my third Sensation from the same store (the first 2 had the same manfacturing date on the battery cover) so now I'm not sure what to do?
Are there any "perfect" Sensations out there? Did HTC do a sloppy job on these phones (always had HTC smartphones before, and no major issues). This can't just be bad luck or can it?
Cheers!

Bad luck.
I've had mine since June or so and I haven't had any problems with it. No real Wifi death grip, no loose back cover, nothing.

Get one from a different store.
All manufacturers are having quality issues, or at least we're hearing about them more.
The more "trouble" consumers cause shops by returning faulty phones the more pressure will be put on the factories to improve.
Persevere, the Sensation is a top of the range phone

I bought mine since June and it doesn't have any problems too. All working great. I suppose its just bad luck for you.

Thank for the replies so far!
Ok, seems (so far) that I've had bad luck. I REALLY hope thats the issue, cause I REALLY love the phone, the design, the hardware etc. But I just can not pay all that money for a premium phone that ain't.... well premium
I took the gift card for the sole reason to try and buy the phone at another store, maybe it was a faulty batch or something, who knows. But two phones in a row, with the same production date (which I can't really remember right now june fifth China I believe, have to check when I get home) wich are both faulty has really made me think twice.
So the news you guys bring so far is really good news to me!

Hopefully, the next replacement you get is a perfect one! It's really an awesome phone and it's kinda sad to get missed out due to some defects. ):

Mine has a bit of play in the cover but that's just how it is so doesn't bother me.

Mines is good so far.... Maybe that store is selling fakes?
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darryll4sh0 said:
Mines is good so far.... Maybe that store is selling fakes?
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Nah, no fakes. It's one of our largest/most spread stores here in Sweden (deals with phones, computers, TV's etc etc).
The thing is. I'm really NO "sitting under the magnifying glas looking for dead pixels" kindof guy, so these phones really was faulty.
According to the replies of this thread though it really seems like bad luck. I will try to buy another one, in a diffrent store (well not by name but location atleast) and see if I get a normal working HTC premium sensation!

It just your luck...

What they are actually doing is giving you reconditioned or refurbished phones.These are cheaper for them and are usually ones that have had faults i.e firmware flash failures,broken screens etc.Demand a BRAND NEW DEVICE as they have to provide you with a new fully working phone when you get it.If you are in the UK we have trading standards that you could contact to start a complaint if they refuse you a new device

Aja82 said:
Thank for the replies so far!
Ok, seems (so far) that I've had bad luck. I REALLY hope thats the issue, cause I REALLY love the phone, the design, the hardware etc. But I just can not pay all that money for a premium phone that ain't.... well premium
I took the gift card for the sole reason to try and buy the phone at another store, maybe it was a faulty batch or something, who knows. But two phones in a row, with the same production date (which I can't really remember right now june fifth China I believe, have to check when I get home) wich are both faulty has really made me think twice.
So the news you guys bring so far is really good news to me!
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Ask to try out the replacement in the shop to give it a good going over to make sure there are no obvious faults

I've had mine since June as well. I get nothing but compliments on it and honestly, its the best phone I've ever had. I must agree with everyone else when I say buy another one. I'm sure like everyone else, you will be happy too.
revolutionary, CM7, launcher pro. faux123 1.67 kernel, sim unlocked sensation 4G

Well you guys convinced me! I will go get another one today actually! Thanks for all the replies, it's been really helpfull to me!
I'll keep you updated!

same thing happened to me, all replacements they sent me had dead pixels.
though, i used the replacement phones to get free accessories. lol

Just got my third Sesnsation (since thursday) a few hours ago. So far it's just perfect! Sweet! I has NONE of the flaws my 2 previous devices had.
Just to makr sure I got one from another batch this time I got a newer serial number, made in Taiwan instead of China. So far so good!
It pays of to be a whiny ol' customer sometimes

Aja82 said:
Just got my third Sesnsation (since thursday) a few hours ago. So far it's just perfect! Sweet! I has NONE of the flaws my 2 previous devices had.
Just to makr sure I got one from another batch this time I got a newer serial number, made in Taiwan instead of China. So far so good!
It pays of to be a whiny ol' customer sometimes
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Absolutely, the more legitimate trouble customers cause by returning faulty goods, the more the stores will put pressure on the manufacturers to improve their quality

Xcor3 said:
same thing happened to me, all replacements they sent me had dead pixels.
though, i used the replacement phones to get free accessories. lol
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Mine has a dead pixel but im reluctant to get anbother in case it has more problems, like my mate having 1 million (exagerated) Desires that were faulty.1 pixel i can deal with and i think ill wait till i get a few more scratches on this beauty before i demand a new one

I'm also on my second phone. The first one was just bad all round, and nothing seemed to work properly. The second has terrible call quality and keeps dropping calls. the wifi also keeps dropping out. one minute I have four bars and the next I have nothing. it's like the "death grip" problem but still does it even if i'm not touching the phone. Also have the back cover problem and the screen freezing problem. I love the phone but it's the phone part thats always faulty, it is by far the worst reception I have had on a phone. Oh and just checked mine and it was made in Taiwan.

jools5431 said:
I'm also on my second phone. The first one was just bad all round, and nothing seemed to work properly. The second has terrible call quality and keeps dropping calls. the wifi also keeps dropping out. one minute I have four bars and the next I have nothing. it's like the "death grip" problem but still does it even if i'm not touching the phone. Also have the back cover problem and the screen freezing problem. I love the phone but it's the phone part thats always faulty, it is by far the worst reception I have had on a phone. Oh and just checked mine and it was made in Taiwan.
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Time to start asking O2 for compensation along with a replacement phone, they're normally good at giving credits to customer's accounts. I got £15 once just by making the woman in the call centre laugh

[Q]Build Quality[Q]

Just a quick question regarding the HTC Sensation.
Got mine last Saturday, already a happy rooted customer using Android Revoloution HD!
Just got a slight issue with the build quality, I'm not even honest if you would call it that? If I squeeze the bottom left of my device between my fingers with minimum force there is a squeaking of the case and device moving together. I know this isn't such a major problem, but for a phone that i'm going to be having for the next two years it isn't ideal. I regard my Sensation as the 'Lamborghini of Phones' and my comparison is that 'If I had a Lamborghini that squeaked every time I pressed the breaks, I would certainly return it.' So the question is, is this a general fault I will find with ALL Sensations, or am I one of the unlucky few?
Thanks Guys!

Naah, you aren't the only one. I am pretty sure other have it too, and I am one of them.

had the same
i just clicked the backcover off and clicked it back on with a little force and now its gone

Pretty much all Sensations have that squeaking noise due to the nature of the backcasing.
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Thanks for the replies, guess it saves me bugging Orange for a new phone. Bad design if you ask me, would have been better if they designed the casing to come off like the Mozart!

Joining Verizon Galaxy S III Family

So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.

I wouldn't worry about it. Mine has been rock solid, even after a trip into the pool.
Enjoy your new phone. I'm sure you'll love it.

RyanW114 said:
So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
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As someone who had a launch fascinate, and upgraded to an s3 in July, let me add my opinion.
Gps. Though still not bulletproof and instantly locking like my wife's iphone 4s, it is way better than the stock fassy and even cm builds
Rom. Stock Rom is way less bloated and tw is way better with a smaller footprint.
Quality. About the same. I miss the 4 capacitive buttons actually. Still find myself hitting the android options key when trying to get to the launcher
I still have my fascinate in case this breaks and needs to be swapped. I do not miss it at all though. I could never find a perfect Rom for it. Something was always broke or buggy. I love my s3. Was going to sell it to get an iphone 5, but I am going to keep it now.

jtiger12 said:
As someone who had a launch fascinate, and upgraded to an s3 in July, let me add my opinion.
Gps. Though still not bulletproof and instantly locking like my wife's iphone 4s, it is way better than the stock fassy and even cm builds
Rom. Stock Rom is way less bloated and tw is way better with a smaller footprint.
Quality. About the same. I miss the 4 capacitive buttons actually. Still find myself hitting the android options key when trying to get to the launcher
I still have my fascinate in case this breaks and needs to be swapped. I do not miss it at all though. I could never find a perfect Rom for it. Something was always broke or buggy. I love my s3. Was going to sell it to get an iphone 5, but I am going to keep it now.
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Glad to have someone who has experience with the fascinate and gs3. I was concerned with the gps since the gps on the fascinate was pretty wonky. I guess the gs3 isn't much different in build quality with the thin plastic battery cover.

I previously owned a Fascinate as well, it was a great phone but outdated.
I was first worrying about the size being (alittle) too big, after few days it seems to be perfect size.
I do not like the physical home button and the external speakers location. The battery cover is a thin flexible plastic cover, atleast it will not shatter if dropped on hard surfaces.
And the most important of all, it is not an iphone. Unless you have a lemon or defected phone, you will love it.

Hyper_Warp said:
I previously owned a Fascinate as well, it was a great phone but outdated.
I was first worrying about the size being (alittle) too big, after few days it seems to be perfect size.
I do not like the physical home button and the external speakers location. The battery cover is a thin flexible plastic cover, atleast it will not shatter if dropped on hard surfaces.
And the most important of all, it is not an iphone. Unless you have a lemon or defected phone, you will love it.
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Yeah, I was worried about the size until I tried out a floor model and to me, felt fine, different from the 4 inches of course but nothing like the galaxy note. I think one major difference is what you mentioned, the physical home button, coming from 4 capacitive buttons to just 3 buttons with one of them a physical one, is pretty different.

A lot of us come from the fascinate. Me too. I find this phone has built nicely on the original fascinate. Adding things that needed along with the general hardware upgrade. Or now thinking on it, Samsung or Qualcomm should have given us a quad core but such as life.
Sent from my Verizon Galaxy S 3 running CM10

tonu42 said:
A lot of us come from the fascinate. Me too. I find this phone has built nicely on the original fascinate. Adding things that needed along with the general hardware upgrade. Or now thinking on it, Samsung or Qualcomm should have given us a quad core but such as life.
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Yeah such is life, but having the dual core hold up to that quad core is nice.
On another note, didn't get my galaxy s3 today. So I have unlimited data on my plan and went though hell to try to find a way to keep the unlimited data and get the phone at the discount price. I might of done it, but won't know until verizon sends me my phone in the mail. Will know in a couple days.

It's a great choice ! You will be glad you took the upgrade ! I even enjoy the phone out of the box . This phone is going to be limitless .

RyanW114 said:
So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
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Let me be one of the first to say Welcome to the VZW GS3 Family! I may be on GS3 #3, but I think I finally got a keeper. The phone kicks my bionic's a** left and right, and I feel the GS3 is the best phone on the market atm.
As for me being on GS3 #3, I wouldent worry about build quality. First one had the screen gap issue (was back when the GS3 had 1 forum for all carriers), second one had dead pixels, but this current one is a keeper!

I am also new to the verizon fam. Came from sprint and am so happy with this gs3. So much to do that sometimes dont know what to do on the phone. What cool tricks do u suggest. I habeny been on this site in years.

To update everyone, I got my phone today and was able to activate it and keep unlimited! The sweet sweet smell of a new phone with unlimited 4G.

RyanW114 said:
To update everyone, I got my phone today and was able to activate it and keep unlimited! The sweet sweet smell of a new phone with unlimited 4G.
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Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??

The phone is fantastic. I've had no issues with it. Welcome to the family!

I love my GS3. It's a great phone and build quality is pretty good. But I did have a few things though most of them are minor. Do check them out within your return window:
1. My 1st GS3 had GPS issue. Took forever to lock and wouldn't stay locked. Got an exchange for that and the 2nd one is way better, still not perfect but totally usable.
2. My 1st GS3 came with a tiny scratch on the screen. I found it after using the phone for < 2hours. At first I thought I scratched it. Then after keeping the phone in the same pocket (completely naked) for 3 weeks, and then having the 2nd one for a month, no scratch whatsoever. Now I'm pretty sure my 1st one came with the scratch. It's a very tiny scratch can only be seen from certain angle. But it annoyed the hell out of me.
3. Both the 1st and 2nd GS3's back cover have a squeaky spot. The 1st one right behind the volume rocker, the 2nd one behind the home button. Not the worst problem but can get annoying.
I saw other people report screen problem (dead pixel) so running a screen test is probably not a bad idea.

Dirty13ear said:
Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
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As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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Dirty13ear said:
Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
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I didn't, after June 28th you can't request to keep it. See below how I did it.
moun7ain said:
The phone is fantastic. I've had no issues with it. Welcome to the family!
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Thanks!
simollie said:
I love my GS3. It's a great phone and build quality is pretty good. But I did have a few things though most of them are minor. Do check them out within your return window:
1. My 1st GS3 had GPS issue. Took forever to lock and wouldn't stay locked. Got an exchange for that and the 2nd one is way better, still not perfect but totally usable.
2. My 1st GS3 came with a tiny scratch on the screen. I found it after using the phone for < 2hours. At first I thought I scratched it. Then after keeping the phone in the same pocket (completely naked) for 3 weeks, and then having the 2nd one for a month, no scratch whatsoever. Now I'm pretty sure my 1st one came with the scratch. It's a very tiny scratch can only be seen from certain angle. But it annoyed the hell out of me.
3. Both the 1st and 2nd GS3's back cover have a squeaky spot. The 1st one right behind the volume rocker, the 2nd one behind the home button. Not the worst problem but can get annoying.
I saw other people report screen problem (dead pixel) so running a screen test is probably not a bad idea.
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I was checking for everything, can you tell me more about the back cover squeaky spot, been squeezing it, haven't had any squeaky spots, I assume that means I don't have that problem.
Vorfidus said:
As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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I did a cross upgrade, I was able to transfer my upgrade to a different phone and then have that line upgrade to the s3. When it came, I just esn swap (transferred the phone to my line). Note this only works with ordering from the website. At the store and anywhere else they will force you to switch. Trust me, I banged heads with a lot of people over this.

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As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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When I got mine at full price they made me switch before they would activate it but I'm fine with it.

RyanW114 said:
I did a cross upgrade, I was able to transfer my upgrade to a different phone and then have that line upgrade to the s3. When it came, I just esn swap (transferred the phone to my line). Note this only works with ordering from the website. At the store and anywhere else they will force you to switch. Trust me, I banged heads with a lot of people over this.
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Ahhh that makes sense then. I was pretty sure they weren't allowing people to do that anymore no matter what but the way you went about it seems to be a few and far between sort of thing. Nice work on keeping that unlimited data though. props

RyanW114 said:
Glad to have someone who has experience with the fascinate and gs3. I was concerned with the gps since the gps on the fascinate was pretty wonky. I guess the gs3 isn't much different in build quality with the thin plastic battery cover.
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It feels solid to me. Its a thin cover but its all packed together in that slim body pretty tightly so it doesn't feel cheap (at least not to me). You can't tell its a thin plastic back unless you remove it as it doesn't move or give at all when it is on the phone. I think the fascinate felt worse
The GPS is no problem at all on the S3 but I never had issues with it on my fascinate either although I know a lot of people did.

S3 = worth the upgrade

As someone who didn't think the galaxy s3 was going to feel like that major of an upgrade over the Hercules, I gotta say, I tried it out. And then having been fairly convinced by the display, I traded my Hercules + cash for the pebble blue one off Craigslist.
Gotta say, wow. AOKP JB runs literally with no bugs for me (some ppl have call echo but I'm lucky enough to not), AND and just wow. I never knew how much of an upgrade this device was. If anyone out there is skeptical about upgrading, don't be. You won't regret the switch.

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As someone who didn't think the galaxy s3 was going to feel like that major of an upgrade over the Hercules, I gotta say, I tried it out. And then having been fairly convinced by the display, I traded my Hercules + cash for the pebble blue one off Craigslist.
Gotta say, wow. AOKP JB runs literally with no bugs for me (some ppl have call echo but I'm lucky enough to not), AND and just wow. I never knew how much of an upgrade this device was. If anyone out there is skeptical about upgrading, don't be. You won't regret the switch.
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If its running AOKP, then it cant do anything the SII cant do. Its just a bit quicker. I'll avoid the impulse buy and see what comes this fall.

oldfield16 said:
As someone who didn't think the galaxy s3 was going to feel like that major of an upgrade over the Hercules, I gotta say, I tried it out. And then having been fairly convinced by the display, I traded my Hercules + cash for the pebble blue one off Craigslist.
Gotta say, wow. AOKP JB runs literally with no bugs for me (some ppl have call echo but I'm lucky enough to not), AND and just wow. I never knew how much of an upgrade this device was. If anyone out there is skeptical about upgrading, don't be. You won't regret the switch.
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I've been tempted to lately just since it's been so long since I've had a new gadget. But honestly, not sure if I want to go with another device that's held at the mercy of carriers/manufacturers for updates. I want the next Nexus to come out soon...

I assure you its not worth it. If you have money to burn, go ahead. I've had and returned it for a gs2

hey its one of those posts that gives the op justification and gratification for buying a product!
I can totally say that the s2 has AOKP JB with literally no bugs, some ppl have RR and SOD but I'm fortunate enough to not have those bugs!
I'm just messing with you OP. enjoy your S3, i will join you when i break my s2.

Rekzer said:
If its running AOKP, then it cant do anything the SII cant do. Its just a bit quicker. I'll avoid the impulse buy and see what comes this fall.
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Well I wasn't shallow enough to upgrade just because of aokp, I think that'd be just a liiiiittle bit weird. Just sayin.
The display and smooth interface was what got me, it's significantly better than the s2, totally never expected it to be be. And more than an impulse buy, it's a phone that I think will last a long time. Mostly posting this for those who were questioning upgrading.

Cool story bro. I hope you like it better than my best friend likes his.

My friend has one and like blackangst said. My friend hates his and is wanting to get another S2.

I'll get one once the price comes waaaaay down on Craigslist for them. The screen and camera are about the only legitimate upgrades from our device
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davwman said:
I assure you its not worth it. If you have money to burn, go ahead. I've had and returned it for a gs2
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A few of my friends have it. Its much faster, (side by side app loading and gaming) the screen is much better, the camera sensors wreck the ones on this phone, the battery life is MUCH better.. what exactly isn't worth it to you? Youve had this agenda against the s3 for awhile now and im starting to doubt if youve had the handset at all. The phone is an overall upgrade. Were you expecting it to make you breakfast??? I dont get some of you noobs. This phone is great but the over infatuation some of these people have with the t989 is overwhelming. Personally im waiting to jump back into the nexus line.
Actually my buddy also went from the t989 to the s3. The only thing he doesnt like about it is that wifi reception is a bit sketchy compared to the t989 but hes loving everything else about it. Hes a current tmobile employee and says the s3 is the best handset tmos got in its line up. Id say its a worthy upgrade for the 720p samoled screen alone.
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Why get a S3 now when the note 2 is right around the corner and the new nexus probably coming right afterwards?

0Tolerance said:
Why get a S3 now when the note 2 is right around the corner and the new nexus probably coming right afterwards?
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Yeah the International note 2 is around the corner, god knows if tmobile will even get it, as for the nexus, it's a cool phone but as long as it doesn't have ex sd I will never get one. I myself really want to upgrade to the S3, but I'm a little hesitant as I have seen some of my friends' S3 already scratched from the screen. One of my friends had an s2 and now the s3 and he cracked the screen after only one drop. He said the drop wasn't even that bad. And I'm a person who doesn't like any cracks or scratches on the phone screen. And I fumble my phone a lot lol
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elflip88 said:
Yeah the International note 2 is around the corner, god knows if tmobile will even get it, as for the nexus, it's a cool phone but as long as it doesn't have ex sd I will never get one. I myself really want to upgrade to the S3, but I'm a little hesitant as I have seen some of my friends' S3 already scratched from the screen. One of my friends had an s2 and now the s3 and he cracked the screen after only one drop. He said the drop wasn't even that bad. And I'm a person who doesn't like any cracks or scratches on the phone screen. And I fumble my phone a lot lol
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Interesting maybe i should check on the durability.
I'm the same way, keep my phone nice and pristine, but i rarely drop my phone. I actually only dropped it 3 times. 2 with case phew, and once without... Which was the worst thing possible... i put it in my shirt pocket got out of the car.... Bent over to check my tires a routine i do weekly.... Bam onto my bricked type driveway... on the corner too... I stare at my flawed Bezel every day from then on... I never leave anything in my shirt pocket from that day forward. What made it worse was that right before i got out of the car i just removed my full film protection for that corner because it was getting uhhh linty/dirty. Felt like bad luck Brian lol
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Can I ask why ppl went back? I know the person I got mine from just didn't like the center button, which I actually like. Worked out to be a good deal for both parties.
Also, regarding screen scratches, why the hell don't ppl just buy some $5-10 screen protectors on Amazon for their $600 device?? This seems like an obvious fix to me..
Also, the original international note didn't work on tmobile 3g/4g, nor am I likely to find the deal I got for this for one of those behemoths. Expandable memory is what won me over a nexus device also, I already have the tablet so this fits what I want a bit more.

protectors will resist some scratches, but what we were worry about is the screen cracking............... I've dropped my phone waist high on concrete and uneven ground yet minimal damages. If his friend barely dropped it and it shattered his screen... It sounds very weak.., like iPhone weak.. I've seen my friends and people drop their iPhone from sitting Down and you can hear the glass shatter.. If it's like that... I rather not buy it.
If you haven't noticed there are very few cases of broken screens in this phone section. Hence i would like to see how the s3 holds up.
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Teo032 said:
protectors will resist some scratches, but what we were worry about is the screen cracking............... I've dropped my phone waist high on concrete and uneven ground yet minimal damages. If his friend barely dropped it and it shattered his screen... It sounds very weak.., like iPhone weak.. I've seen my friends and people drop their iPhone from sitting Down and you can hear the glass shatter.. If it's like that... I rather not buy it.
If you haven't noticed there are very few cases of broken screens in this phone section. Hence i would like to see how the s3 holds up.
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Yes exactly what I am worried about. Because I myself have dropped this phone and its landed in every position imaginable, yet there is not a single scratch on the screen. As for iphones, yeah I don't think I have seen one yet without some kind of screen damage lol
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elflip88 said:
Yeah the International note 2 is around the corner, god knows if tmobile will even get it, as for the nexus, it's a cool phone but as long as it doesn't have ex sd I will never get one. I myself really want to upgrade to the S3, but I'm a little hesitant as I have seen some of my friends' S3 already scratched from the screen. One of my friends had an s2 and now the s3 and he cracked the screen after only one drop. He said the drop wasn't even that bad. And I'm a person who doesn't like any cracks or scratches on the phone screen. And I fumble my phone a lot lol
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I for one will wait to see who's going to carry the note 2, tmobile already dropping the first note after a few weeks is a good sign noting that they got on board with samsung with the note and maybe wanted to test the waters or might have been part of the contract of them signing on for the note 2. Either way I'm heading the note or new galaxy way with tmobile or not. Which would be straight talk because att can kiss my a$$.. But yea the nexus really needs that external slot and hopefully not have the headphone jack on the bottom of the phone.. smh

I made the mistake of upgrading to the sensation when it first came out, then the s2 then the gnex, then the one x came out so i learned my lesson n wait for the fall, after all software its what makes any outdated phone like new, and the s2 runs jelly bean like a champ and even with the little random bugs its a daily driver, we are less than 3 months for the new nexus device to come out, the new phones out there are still dual cores, better ones yeah, but still our phones are capable of the same features, and not all apps are compatible with ics and not to mention jb, so at this time of the year, why rush to buy a device that will be outdated in 3 months?
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suprakarma said:
I made the mistake of upgrading to the sensation when it first came out, then the s2 then the gnex, then the one x came out so i learned my lesson n wait for the fall, after all software its what makes any outdated phone like new, and the s2 runs jelly bean like a champ and even with the little random bugs its a daily driver, we are less than 3 months for the new nexus device to come out, the new phones out there are still dual cores, better ones yeah, but still our phones are capable of the same features, and not all apps are compatible with ics and not to mention jb, so at this time of the year, why rush to buy a device that will be outdated in 3 months?
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Duuuude, I almost did the same thing with the sensation. My EX girl was able to get an extra line and we were planning on getting me a phone and I was getting the sensation. For some reason we never did and we ended breaking up a little later. So when I went to TMobile to get a line on my own I got the s2. Thank god for that. Imagine, I'd be stuck with a sensation and under my ex's name. Phew
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Teo032 said:
protectors will resist some scratches, but what we were worry about is the screen cracking............... I've dropped my phone waist high on concrete and uneven ground yet minimal damages. If his friend barely dropped it and it shattered his screen... It sounds very weak.., like iPhone weak.. I've seen my friends and people drop their iPhone from sitting Down and you can hear the glass shatter.. If it's like that... I rather not buy it.
If you haven't noticed there are very few cases of broken screens in this phone section. Hence i would like to see how the s3 holds up.
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Has held up fine for me, I always keep my phone in a case after I ruined my vibrants screen a year back. Might say I'm paranoid of all screens breaking after that lol

This phone is complete garbage.

I started off with the One and didn't like it because my phones looked like this http://s16.postimg.org/rz4843lud/image.png
Like seriously I went through 3 of them and they were all like that, so I told my network I wasn't happy and I wanted to get a GS4 instead because I knew the build quality would be great.
So I did that and waited for the GS4 to come out and got my phone the other day and oh look another faulty phone. This time with the GS4 I have crazy ghosting issues and a pink tint of the screen, to top that off I have 3/4 dead pixels on the screen. Only now I'm out of exchanges and cannot exchange the phone again, even though I've had 4 faulty phones in a frigging row. Like are phones getting worse or something because this is the first time I've had any trouble. This isn't my picture but this is what my screen looks like at the bottom... http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg
On top of that though the phone has major problems elsewhere.
- I cannot install to Micro SD, like wtf? When did this change? I always could on my last Android phone a couple years ago. There is like 8GB internal on this phone that I can use, it's stupid, I've already filled it up with apps. The One had 29GB usable, so much better and the phone is cheaper too but there is only a 16gb version of the GS4 and it's way more expensive as well. In my mind Micro SD is made useless if I cannot install to it as everything else is on like Play or my pictures are automatically uploaded or video is all streamed now from stuff like Netflix etc etc.
- The loudspeaker is crap, they've made no effort with it, it's worse than my last phone and way worse than the One.
- The camera is crap, the FoV is too narrow, the shutter speed is too slow, no OIS, everything in the video is way too shaky and every picture is over saturated like mad. Like every picture looks like a cartoon and no settings I try is changing that, if you zoom into a picture it looks so stupid. The mics are just ****e, the audio quality is so bad, Samsung have made no attempt to improve them what so ever, good luck recording loud sounds because you cannot...
- Touchwiz is worse than ever, I mean I used to like it when it was based on GB, it was really nice and actually improved Android back then. Now however it's a bloated mess with far too many menus and nothing is where you expect to find it. If I'm trying to turn sensor features on and off for example, you think you've turned one on but it's not working, you have to then go through sub menus to find the one option that is off under that sensor menu. It's laid out so badly, it looks really bad now, so out dated and it lags quite often as a result. The worst thing of all is how much space it takes up....
Apart from the phone feeling so nice in the hand and being well made on the whole, I just cannot see any good qualities. I mean I wish I stuck with the One now, even with the Speaker grills coming off, the phone still manages to be way better. Sadly now I cannot have another exchange and go back and I doubt anyone wants to buy a GS4 with a crap screen. My only option left is just to complain to my Network and refuse to pay them until it is sorted because 4 faulty phones in a row is not acceptable IMO.

Post ur picture first. I dobt know why people come here with other peoples problem making it theirs and bash the devices they cant get.
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dead pixels? I have never seen an amoled screen with dead pixels, can you post a pic?
not saying I don't believe it, but that's just VERY rare
I'm hoping the screen issues are fixed soon by OTA or by the XDA members
install to micro SD... well... where have you been living for the past two years? lol
(there's another way though, check out FolderMount by a fellow XDA member)
loudspeakers, yeah true. not that it matters that much, to me at least. maybe samsung feels the same. they are good enough.
camera, I agree with the FOV. the rest can be improved over time with software, that's what XDA's for.
touchwiz, that's completely subjective. I kinda like it. even though I will be changing it, just because I like to make the phone my own.
advantages over the one?
1.9GHz, AMOLED display, bigger screen, removable (and bigger) battery, micro SD slot, air view (which will be supported by CM from what I've read!!), etc...
you know, there is no perfect phone. it's just up to you to choose which phone's downsides you'd rather live with.
I'm no samsung fan boy, but the S4 is just the phone I want. I can still see why people would chose the One, but I wouldn't.

Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
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Tomo1971 said:
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
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+1, I mean seriously, I can barely notice the gap there. And he ditched One for that? LOL.
And honestly, seems like a troll - intentional or otherwise. Assuming that you are not trolling and is serious, get a replacement because I'm fairly sure that you've got a defective unit. Also post a picture of your screen because we'd all see to see that "miracle" unit.

Tomo1971 said:
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
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LOL

Terrorantula said:
oh look another faulty phone. This time with the GS4 I have crazy ghosting issues and a pink tint of the screen, to top that off I have 3/4 dead pixels on the screen. Only now I'm out of exchanges and cannot exchange the phone again, even though I've had 4 faulty phones in a frigging row. Like are phones getting worse or something because this is the first time I've had any trouble. This isn't my picture but this is what my screen looks like at the bottom... http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg
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Call Samsung and tell them the deal, they will correct it.

We get it, you don't like the phone, plenty do but you don't - so what do you expect the XDA community to do for you? Sell it or return it and buy something else, that's how things work in life, or were you hoping for someone to drop around, pick it up and morph it to something that's more suitable? Yeah really...

tuxonhtc said:
+1, I mean seriously, I can barely notice the gap there. And he ditched One for that? LOL.
And honestly, seems like a troll - intentional or otherwise. Assuming that you are not trolling and is serious, get a replacement because I'm fairly sure that you've got a defective unit. Also post a picture of your screen because we'd all see to see that "miracle" unit.
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If the HTC Ones were deemed as faulty by your provider and the S4 is deemed the same, there is no reason why you cant get many many replacements.
Its only if your right to refund/replacement is 'cos I dont like the phone' does the issue of running out of replacements become an issue.
TBH, Ive said before, and I will say again, I think people can be a little too over critical of devices that have gaps or apparent 'faults'. Its only due to forums like this that things get noticed. I can see a very slight pink tinge on my screen but been honest, I doubt if I would of seen that if I didnt know others had reported it.
My S4, as did the Note II before it, seems to be ok build wise.

I owned S3 since it begin shipped. Now I own s4 and have to say that, loudspeaker is much better than s3. I don't know how one's speaker but I am happy with s4's.

The S4 is actually a very good phone all the gesture features etc are very good, sound qaulity in audio is fantastic and loud too, phone looks and feels great,
however I do agree that 8gb internal sucks the not being able to transfer apps doesnt really bother me much, he FoV in camera does suck and so does video audio, especially when compared to my HTC one.
Overall it is a better phone than the HTC one but itsnt worth nearly £90 - £110 more (carphone and phones 4 u) and I will be getting one when the price drops from £580/600.

Get to see what Samsung do because my Network wants nothing to do with it, tbh don't want to deal with them anymore if this is how I get treated. Those gaps on the HTC One weren't off by a little bit, they were slowly lifting up more and more, you could push them in, clearly not glued properly. Why should I settle for a poorly built device? Lock into a contract for 2 years, just not good enough. All three HTC Ones had dead and bright pixels anyways, like had 5+ each but they were so small you couldn't see them unless you turned brightness to full.
Anyways considering my screen looks like that and has massive ghosting issues, exactly like what other people have posted, it's my right to have it changed. I didn't use my pictures because it wasn't coming out on my camera, that image though shows exactly what it looks like much better than any of my shots. I obviously have a GS4 because I compared the camera to the One and the 808 in another post and you can obviously tell from the FoV.

I think this thread has run its course... closing it before the real trolling starts