Hi guys, I've just bought a Motorola moto g 16gb and then I've installed android 4.4.2 and I noticed that the battery stats doesn't show the battery usage of many user apps..
Is it a bug or not?
(Before this phone I had a HTC desire c with android 4.1.2 cyanogenmod)
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It is not a bug.. android does not show user apps battery data anymore..
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Ah.. I found it very useful sometime..
And is it normal the percentage of battery used by the screen? (I keep it around 30/40% during the day)
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zazzy24 said:
It is not a bug.. android does not show user apps battery data anymore..
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It does, but it won't show any user app that is less than (I think) 4% use. He's got a user app showing up on the list in his screenshot.
What has changed is that some user app use of core OS features now get reported as Android OS/Android System where as under JB they were reported as the originating app.
smoza said:
Ah.. I found it very useful sometime..
And is it normal the percentage of battery used by the screen? (I keep it around 30/40% during the day)
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What was your screen on time? (Long press Screen/Shermo)
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What was your screen on time? (Long press Screen/Shermo)
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Yesterday I recharged it so the old screen on time is gone.. But today I didn't used it a lot but the percentage of used battery is 53%
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Hey @smoza I noticed in your screenshots you're using a battery percentage app. Did you know that KitKat already supports battery percentage? You can enable it with this app, without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent
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smoza said:
Yesterday I recharged it so the old screen on time is gone.. But today I didn't used it a lot but the percentage of used battery is 53%
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OK, really need to know battery consumed, how much of that is reported to be the screen and the screen on time to see if that is an issue. It is normal for screen to be top of the list with regular usage but how much it drains (and how much screen on time you get) is basically going to be a function of your brightness settings.
Looking at your second screen shot I can see a couple of things you might want to investigate/change.
Wifi is always on - fine if you are actually connected to wifi - but if you are out and about and not using a wifi connection having wifi enabled will add a significant amount to your idle drain rate. You should also disable 'Scanning always available' in the Advanced Wifi Settings (Settings/Wifi/Menu Button.Advanced).
Your cell signal is often quite poor - not a lot you can do about it but that will cause faster drain when you are connected to mobile data.
Your phone is waking up regularly when not in use. There could be numerous causes for this, but most likely it is having location set to High Accuracy or Battery Saver - the phone is regularly collecting info from your cell tower connections and surrounding wifi networks to feed back to Google to get a location fix, and apps that like to know your location may be asking for a fix regularly. Depending on what you use location for you may wish to consider turning it off entirely or running in Device Only mode.
You've used GPS - some people have experienced an issue with a continually higher drain rate after using GPS - it's intermittent - for some it is everytime after using GPS, some most of the time, others very occasionally. A reboot will fix if this is an issue (it doesn't look like it is a problem but it's hard to tell - it's most obvious if the battery drains in airplane mode).
I turned off the GPS right now, disabled 'scanning always available' and set the brightness as auto.. I'll write here if this will increase my battery life or not, thank you anyway
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smoza said:
I turned off the GPS right now, disabled 'scanning always available' and set the brightness as auto.. I'll write here if this will increase my battery life or not, thank you anyway
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You might want to keep it between 10 to 20% manually adjusting to higher levels if you're going outside, for the brightness sensor to not be working and therefore, consuming more battery.
From this morning at 10a.m. with 94% of battery I reached the 9p.m. with 7% of battery and I used it a bit more of my average use.. That's better than before (I had to charge my phone at 8p.m.), so thank you guys
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smoza said:
From this morning at 10a.m. with 94% of battery I reached the 9p.m. with 7% of battery and I used it a bit more of my average use.. That's better than before (I had to charge my phone at 8p.m.), so thank you guys
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just curious.. which launcher app are you using? by any chance are you using the google now/experience launcher?
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Hey @smoza I noticed in your screenshots you're using a battery percentage app. Did you know that KitKat already supports battery percentage? You can enable it with this app, without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent
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this app is pretty much useless as till your battery is very low it won't show the battery %... wish someone came up with a circle battery with text app for moto g..
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There is anything to do to fix. this bug? The phone had aroun 70% of battery and the phone shootdown it self and you can see the results, 0% of battery but the phone is still working.
Here you can see the screenshot, i'm running stock ROM with aerokernel, and xposed and Gravity box.
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just curious.. which launcher app are you using? by any chance are you using the google now/experience launcher?
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I'm using google now launcher, why?
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smoza said:
I'm using google now launcher, why?
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try using nova for a day and tell me if u notice a difference in the battery drain...
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It's not bug.
will try something....latters
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Since better battery stats & co don't work on KitKat as of right now, I'm asking for your help in diagnosing the causes of my battery drain issue so here are some screenshots of my battery stats. I attached the last one to show that GPS should be deactivated.
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What's your on screen time and total time? There's only one screen shot showing
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Since better battery stats & co don't work on KitKat as of right now, I'm asking for your help in diagnosing the causes of my battery drain issue so here are some screenshots of my battery stats. I attached the last one to show that GPS should be deactivated.
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If you set the location service to Device only, I expect things will become much better.
The other location settings enables Googles data collection of our movements, not just our location. This is how Google Now will tell us things like how far we've walked or cycled. In order to know this, the phone is basically waking up every few seconds, getting location information and firing it back to Google.
Google have said themselves in some key note speech that their new location collection API's will use 1% of battery power an hour, which doesn't sound a lot put like that, but equals a quarter of our battery capacity in a day. If you haven't a good cell signal, I expect this 1% is very conservative.
Unfortunately there is no way to tame this collection of data, even if you opt out of everything. Basically if Wi-Fi is enabled for location gathering, it collects this data even if we ourselves don't use it. Google will be using this data to collect information about us, and also uses it for detecting traffic congestion.
Try setting location to Device only and see if things improve, even with apps then using GPS as their only option it will probably be better. While GPS does use a bit more power, it will not be pinging every 10 seconds or so.
Also in the battery page look at the Screen On and Awake blue bars. Ideally you should only have Awake shown at the same time as Screen On. If there are lots of Awakes without the screen being on, that is something using your phone when you are not, usually this is location services.
Regards
Phil
Thank you for your answer but if I'm not mistaken this will disable all the Google now functionalities which need your location to work, right? Also, here's a screenshot of the detailed battery stats
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nico53laval said:
Since better battery stats & co don't work on KitKat as of right now, I'm asking for your help in diagnosing the causes of my battery drain issue so here are some screenshots of my battery stats. I attached the last one to show that GPS should be deactivated.
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The new better battery stats works fine in 4.4
emerica243 said:
The new better battery stats works fine in 4.4
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You're using betterbatterystats? It doesn't work for me.
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You're using betterbatterystats? It doesn't work for me.
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Are you using the new B2 made for kitkat?
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Are you using the new B2 made for kitkat?
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I'm using bbs which hasn't been upgraded to 4.4 yet.
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I'm using bbs which hasn't been upgraded to 4.4 yet.
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Install the beta from the app's thread.
These are my wakelocks right now
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nico53laval said:
These are my wakelocks right now
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Do you use Spotify?
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Do you use Spotify?
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No, only Google music.
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What are your partial wakelocks and did u switch to the ART runtime?
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No, only Google music.
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The bam dumx wakelock seems to be related to a music device. I don't use Google music but see if you can keep it from syncing
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The bam dumx wakelock seems to be related to a music device. I don't use Google music but see if you can keep it from syncing
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I googled it and there's no mention of it being related to a music service.
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OK over that past few days my battery rarely last a few days. Here is my nexus battery stats. Its states my screen has been on for 1m when I have had it on for about 20mins. Also battery drops by the second. Please help. I then tried to charge the charging icon came on but it didn't charge. Left it plugged in for 30mins. Any suggestions?
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I have also tried rebooting but when I go the the battery settings everything is the same. Nothing has reset? Pls help battery going by the minute and seconds
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Are you ysing a custom rom/kernel? Go back to fully stock and see if it happens or not...
No I am not. Just rooted and full stock ROM nothing else.
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dec1153 said:
No I am not. Just rooted and full stock ROM nothing else.
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Well, does it charge while you have connected it to a Wall(AC) charger? Does the Battery indicate that it's charging??
Yes it does indicate. But the percentage did not move. This happened yesterday as well so I drained it then charged fine as normal. Any advice.
Thanks
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Well, does it charge while you have connected it to a Wall(AC) charger? Does the Battery indicate that it's charging??
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Yes it does. Now what?
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dec1153 said:
Yes it does indicate. But the percentage did not move. This happened yesterday as well so I drained it then charged fine as normal. Any advice.
Thanks
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No clue m8.. It's surely weird. You could try to flash factory images and see whether it fixes or not... Follow this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701
Wait for a while and see whether someone else comes up with a solution.. If not, follow the above thread..
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Yes it does. Now what?
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So it indicates that it's charging but the percentage doesn't go up.. that's what you're saying, right?
Try a different wall charger or try charging it via a computer/laptop and see if it charges? May be a faulty charger?
Yes I'll do what I did yesterday. I'll keep u updated, thanks for the help so far though,much appreciated!!! I currently have 53% for 45mine screen on. I might try a battery calibration app too because I am rooted....
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Yes I'll do what I did yesterday. I'll keep u updated, thanks for the help so far though,much appreciated!!! I currently have 53% for 45mine screen on. I might try a battery calibration app too because I am rooted....
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Np. Always happy to help... Battery calibration apps are useless.. Here's a useful post about the same : https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Np. Always happy to help... Battery calibration apps are useless.. Here's a useful post about the same : https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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OK now device is charging as it should be ( I drained it to 4% which took 1hr). Plugged in as we speak. Will report tonight or tomorrow
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dec1153 said:
OK now device is charging as it should be ( I drained it to 4% which took 1hr). Plugged in as we speak. Will report tonight or tomorrow
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That's great news... Do keep us posted! :good:
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That's great news... Do keep us posted! :good:
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OK, device is working but battery drain from Google play services and android os seems sucking my juice like hell! Screen on time option has disappeared but so far battery has dropped as quickly as expected. Fingers crossed
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dec1153 said:
OK, device is working but battery drain from Google play services and android os seems sucking my juice like hell! Screen on time option has disappeared but so far battery has dropped as quickly as expected. Fingers crossed
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Disable location services / Google reporting widen you're not using it...
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Yes I have. So far everything is back to normal but the android OS is still at the top of the battery, but battery doesn't drain like before...... Fingers crossed again!
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Yes I have. So far everything is back to normal but the android OS is still at the top of the battery, but battery doesn't drain like before...... Fingers crossed again!
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If you aren't using your phone regularly then Android OS/SystemUI/phone idle will always be at the top of the list!
Since you're rooted, install BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector and see which apps are preventing your device from sleeping... Also, Install greenify and hibernate all apps except the ones which you would like to get notifications from like whatsapp...
OK thanks, will do that now. Any idea what is draining my battery ( see PIC)
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OK thanks, will do that now. Any idea what is draining my battery ( see PIC)
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Seems normal... Even I have the same... You can't make out by looking at it... You need apps Like Wakelock Detector : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
Follow these steps:
1. Open Wakelock Detector settings and put a tick on "Statistics Since unplug"
2. Charge your device for sometime.
3. As soon as you remove the device from charge, turn off the screen and don't use it for few hours.
After few hours, Turn on the screen and open wakelock detector and check "Wakeup Triggers", "Kernel Wakelock" and "CPU Wakelock" and see what's preventing the device from sleeping...
Now once you Greenify those applications, you ought to have a good battery life!
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Seems normal... Even I have the same... You can't make out by looking at it... You need apps Like Wakelock Detector : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
Follow these steps:
1. Open Wakelock Detector settings and put a tick on "Statistics Since unplug"
2. Charge your device for sometime.
3. As soon as you remove the device from charge, turn off the screen and don't use it for few hours.
After few hours, Turn on the screen and open wakelock detector and check "Wakeup Triggers", "Kernel Wakelock" and "CPU Wakelock" and see what's preventing the device from sleeping...
Now once you Greenify those applications, you ought to have a good battery life!
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Thanks!!! How do I use greenify!!! Thanks
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dec1153 said:
Thanks!!! How do I use greenify!!! Thanks
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Here's the official thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
Everything's explained in detail + how it works!
I have seen people posting screen shot of their devices with 6,7 and even 8 hours of screen time. How do they get it???
I barely get 4.5 hours and haven't ever gotten even 5 hours.
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1) Use some battery saver or so .
2) If that doesnt work call flipkart or from wherever you have taken it and ask them to replace it
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I have seen people posting screen shot of their devices with 6,7 and even 8 hours of screen time. How do they get it???
I barely get 4.5 hours and haven't ever gotten even 5 hours.
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Lower screen brightness to the loswest setting and disable google app data sync. Then also disable wifi/Data when you arent using it. Make sure you often clear recent apps and try an app like clean master.
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Lower screen brightness to the loswest setting and disable google app data sync. Then also disable wifi/Data when you arent using it. Make sure you often clear recent apps and try an app like clean master.
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No themes installed, brightness set to 20%, battery saver on, regularly using clean master, location services off, Wi-Fi and data always off.
Only using when needed like 2 hours browsing non stop, 1 hour video playback and 30 minutes low graphics games gaming
ive had 10 hours once but that was really trying,my usual is more like 5 or 6 ,im rooted and greenified but not much else.i have the brightness on auto all the time.
battery life seems to be getting better and better.
Okay guys now that I have replace my g. I get an average of about 5 hours on screen time with edge on for about 6 hours.
Its it okay
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udaylunawat said:
Okay guys now that I have replace my g. I get an average of about 5 hours on screen time with edge on for about 6 hours.
Its it okay
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What does "g" stand for that you replaced? Battery? Thanks.
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I've got auto brightness on, play games for about 2-3 hours of the day and get 4-6 hour screen time don't be so battery conscious
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What does "g" stand for that you replaced? Battery? Thanks.
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Its moto g....
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udaylunawat said:
Its moto g....
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#noobmoment
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I get not so great battery on stock but Paranoid Android has given me the best battery life out of all the roms I've tried so far (Slim, CM, LiquidSmooth, etc)
Well i own an nexus s and annoyed of its battery backup. So if anyone would suggest me something to maximize the battery life it would be great.
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Well i own an nexus s and annoyed of its battery backup. So if anyone would suggest me something to maximize the battery life it would be great.
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So you want to maximize your battery
i. Decrease your brightness level to the a good level. It should be 20% if you are in a room
ii. Switch off the Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS if not in use, since they consume battery a lot
iii. Don't install any useless app since they may consume the battery even if the phone is locked
iv. Frequently, close the app which you have used, since they're running in the background and eat up your battery
May be this help you
Hit thanks if helped
Lower screen brightness and disconnect WiFi and 3g/4g connection when you don't need an internet connection.
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I am looking for solution as my device drains battery really fast.
I hope someone could assist me on this... I am using 444, su6-7.2 with bootloader locked.
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What does your Battery page display has the apps using battery?
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What does your Battery page display has the apps using battery?
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Sorry, I could not get what you are asking about...
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Before that screen there is another one where is ? drain ranked by app
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Sorry, I could not get what you are asking about...
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Settings / battery. THe page before the graph you posted - which apps are listed there, and what are the %? (That said, you use the phone a lot - there is a lot of screen on/ awake time on your graph. Turn the screen brightness down maybe?)
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Settings / battery. THe page before the graph you posted - which apps are listed there, and what are the %? (That said, you use the phone a lot - there is a lot of screen on/ awake time on your graph. Turn the screen brightness down maybe?)
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You are talking about that page I think...
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I am also getting the issue. I'm on 6-7, 24.3.7, rooted, and if I use it intensely it will go down to 14% before 3:30 PM. I'm surprised, as the issue never happened when I got the phone new.
If your screen is 42%, you're just using it a lot. The Mini has a small battery. Maybe you can try setting brightness down, but it looks like this is drain because you use it rather than a runaway app or process.
That said, Google Play services and Google services have been running high on my usage list lately. There's not much you can do about that, except maybe turn off background sync, which sort of negates the reason I bought a smartphone in the first place.
Battery Doctor
Guys, I have been using Battery Doctor for few days, I have noticed positive effect on battery life. Maybe someone is interested to try..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ijinshan.kbatterydoctor_en&hl=en
I hope it helps to others too.