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Battery drain issue

Since better battery stats & co don't work on KitKat as of right now, I'm asking for your help in diagnosing the causes of my battery drain issue so here are some screenshots of my battery stats. I attached the last one to show that GPS should be deactivated.
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nico53laval said:
Since better battery stats & co don't work on KitKat as of right now, I'm asking for your help in diagnosing the causes of my battery drain issue so here are some screenshots of my battery stats. I attached the last one to show that GPS should be deactivated.
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If you set the location service to Device only, I expect things will become much better.
The other location settings enables Googles data collection of our movements, not just our location. This is how Google Now will tell us things like how far we've walked or cycled. In order to know this, the phone is basically waking up every few seconds, getting location information and firing it back to Google.
Google have said themselves in some key note speech that their new location collection API's will use 1% of battery power an hour, which doesn't sound a lot put like that, but equals a quarter of our battery capacity in a day. If you haven't a good cell signal, I expect this 1% is very conservative.
Unfortunately there is no way to tame this collection of data, even if you opt out of everything. Basically if Wi-Fi is enabled for location gathering, it collects this data even if we ourselves don't use it. Google will be using this data to collect information about us, and also uses it for detecting traffic congestion.
Try setting location to Device only and see if things improve, even with apps then using GPS as their only option it will probably be better. While GPS does use a bit more power, it will not be pinging every 10 seconds or so.
Also in the battery page look at the Screen On and Awake blue bars. Ideally you should only have Awake shown at the same time as Screen On. If there are lots of Awakes without the screen being on, that is something using your phone when you are not, usually this is location services.
Regards
Phil

Thank you for your answer but if I'm not mistaken this will disable all the Google now functionalities which need your location to work, right? Also, here's a screenshot of the detailed battery stats
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nico53laval said:
Since better battery stats & co don't work on KitKat as of right now, I'm asking for your help in diagnosing the causes of my battery drain issue so here are some screenshots of my battery stats. I attached the last one to show that GPS should be deactivated.
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The new better battery stats works fine in 4.4

emerica243 said:
The new better battery stats works fine in 4.4
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You're using betterbatterystats? It doesn't work for me.
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jd1639 said:
You're using betterbatterystats? It doesn't work for me.
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Are you using the new B2 made for kitkat?
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Are you using the new B2 made for kitkat?
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I'm using bbs which hasn't been upgraded to 4.4 yet.
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jd1639 said:
I'm using bbs which hasn't been upgraded to 4.4 yet.
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Install the beta from the app's thread.

These are my wakelocks right now
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nico53laval said:
These are my wakelocks right now
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Do you use Spotify?

jd1639 said:
Do you use Spotify?
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No, only Google music.
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What are your partial wakelocks and did u switch to the ART runtime?

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No, only Google music.
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The bam dumx wakelock seems to be related to a music device. I don't use Google music but see if you can keep it from syncing

jd1639 said:
The bam dumx wakelock seems to be related to a music device. I don't use Google music but see if you can keep it from syncing
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I googled it and there's no mention of it being related to a music service.
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Battery drain

My battery seems to be draining fast. CM11 with their kernel.
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Hi,
How could we know without more details?
At least post some screenshots of the battery history, battery graph...
Maybe you have a ton of wakelocks, try to see with Better Battery Stats.

Sorry I did attach more pictures but didn't upload. Here is another.
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Mobile standby seems to be taking a huge chunk.
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TotalMusic said:
Mobile standby seems to be taking a huge chunk.
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Maybe very bad signal?
Post the battery graph also... I edited my previous post with a link for Better Battery stats.

awesome battery drain
I got 1 hour 17 minutes from 100% to 90%

viking37 said:
Maybe very bad signal?
Post the battery graph also... I edited my previous post with a link for Better Battery stats.
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Might sound stupid. But how do I use it
I have underclocked my device too.

roydondsa said:
I got 1 hour 17 minutes from 100% to 90%
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Hi,
Ok, cool...: Nexus 5 Battery Results.
TotalMusic said:
Might sound stupid. But how do I use it
I have underclocked my device too.
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First, can you post your detailed Battery graph?

viking37 said:
Hi,
Ok, cool...: Nexus 5 Battery Results.
First, can you post your detailed Battery graph?
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I reset my battery stats about an hour ago. But I will give you everything I have.

TotalMusic said:
I reset my battery stats about an hour ago. But I will give you everything I have.
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Ah..., It would have been useful to have it.
You had a good signal?
Go to Settings/Wi-Fi/Menu/Advanced settings, is "Always search" ticked?

Here is some, the XDA app only lets me upload one at a time. Sorry/
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TotalMusic said:
Here is some, the XDA app only lets me upload one at a time. Sorry/
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Very bad signal, even no signal-> could result in a huge battery drain because the phone is always searching the signal...
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Go to Settings/Wi-Fi/Menu/Advanced settings, is "Always search" ticked?
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Here is a screen shot if that helps.
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Ok,
Untick "Scanning always available" and see for a day...
After a day post your detailed battery graph too...
When I say a day, I mean like after the time you used your phone in your first screenshots.

viking37 said:
Ok,
Untick "Scanning always available" and see for a day...
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Ok, thank you. I never normally use my WiFi, but I only flashed the new ROM today. How can I find out about any wakes it is doing?

TotalMusic said:
Ok, thank you. I never normally use my WiFi, but I only flashed the new ROM today. How can I find out about any wakes it is doing?
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So yes untick it.
The time awake, the wakelocks? With the detailed battery graph into Settings/Battery or by using Better Battery Stats...

viking37 said:
So yes untick it.
The time awake, the wakelocks? With the detailed battery graph into Settings/Battery or by using Better Battery Stats...
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Ok thanks, I shall use it like normal for the next 24 hours and report back

TotalMusic said:
Ok thanks, I shall use it like normal for the next 24 hours and report back
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Ok, perfect

viking37 said:
Ok, perfect
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Update, here is a snap of it partially.
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A few more.
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Battery usage

Hi guys, I've just bought a Motorola moto g 16gb and then I've installed android 4.4.2 and I noticed that the battery stats doesn't show the battery usage of many user apps..
Is it a bug or not?
(Before this phone I had a HTC desire c with android 4.1.2 cyanogenmod)
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It is not a bug.. android does not show user apps battery data anymore..
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Ah.. I found it very useful sometime..
And is it normal the percentage of battery used by the screen? (I keep it around 30/40% during the day)
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zazzy24 said:
It is not a bug.. android does not show user apps battery data anymore..
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It does, but it won't show any user app that is less than (I think) 4% use. He's got a user app showing up on the list in his screenshot.
What has changed is that some user app use of core OS features now get reported as Android OS/Android System where as under JB they were reported as the originating app.
smoza said:
Ah.. I found it very useful sometime..
And is it normal the percentage of battery used by the screen? (I keep it around 30/40% during the day)
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What was your screen on time? (Long press Screen/Shermo)

neu - smurph said:
What was your screen on time? (Long press Screen/Shermo)
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Yesterday I recharged it so the old screen on time is gone.. But today I didn't used it a lot but the percentage of used battery is 53%
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Hey @smoza I noticed in your screenshots you're using a battery percentage app. Did you know that KitKat already supports battery percentage? You can enable it with this app, without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent
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smoza said:
Yesterday I recharged it so the old screen on time is gone.. But today I didn't used it a lot but the percentage of used battery is 53%
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OK, really need to know battery consumed, how much of that is reported to be the screen and the screen on time to see if that is an issue. It is normal for screen to be top of the list with regular usage but how much it drains (and how much screen on time you get) is basically going to be a function of your brightness settings.
Looking at your second screen shot I can see a couple of things you might want to investigate/change.
Wifi is always on - fine if you are actually connected to wifi - but if you are out and about and not using a wifi connection having wifi enabled will add a significant amount to your idle drain rate. You should also disable 'Scanning always available' in the Advanced Wifi Settings (Settings/Wifi/Menu Button.Advanced).
Your cell signal is often quite poor - not a lot you can do about it but that will cause faster drain when you are connected to mobile data.
Your phone is waking up regularly when not in use. There could be numerous causes for this, but most likely it is having location set to High Accuracy or Battery Saver - the phone is regularly collecting info from your cell tower connections and surrounding wifi networks to feed back to Google to get a location fix, and apps that like to know your location may be asking for a fix regularly. Depending on what you use location for you may wish to consider turning it off entirely or running in Device Only mode.
You've used GPS - some people have experienced an issue with a continually higher drain rate after using GPS - it's intermittent - for some it is everytime after using GPS, some most of the time, others very occasionally. A reboot will fix if this is an issue (it doesn't look like it is a problem but it's hard to tell - it's most obvious if the battery drains in airplane mode).

I turned off the GPS right now, disabled 'scanning always available' and set the brightness as auto.. I'll write here if this will increase my battery life or not, thank you anyway
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smoza said:
I turned off the GPS right now, disabled 'scanning always available' and set the brightness as auto.. I'll write here if this will increase my battery life or not, thank you anyway
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You might want to keep it between 10 to 20% manually adjusting to higher levels if you're going outside, for the brightness sensor to not be working and therefore, consuming more battery.

From this morning at 10a.m. with 94% of battery I reached the 9p.m. with 7% of battery and I used it a bit more of my average use.. That's better than before (I had to charge my phone at 8p.m.), so thank you guys
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smoza said:
From this morning at 10a.m. with 94% of battery I reached the 9p.m. with 7% of battery and I used it a bit more of my average use.. That's better than before (I had to charge my phone at 8p.m.), so thank you guys
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just curious.. which launcher app are you using? by any chance are you using the google now/experience launcher?
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pisherthefisher said:
Hey @smoza I noticed in your screenshots you're using a battery percentage app. Did you know that KitKat already supports battery percentage? You can enable it with this app, without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent
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this app is pretty much useless as till your battery is very low it won't show the battery %... wish someone came up with a circle battery with text app for moto g..
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There is anything to do to fix. this bug? The phone had aroun 70% of battery and the phone shootdown it self and you can see the results, 0% of battery but the phone is still working.
Here you can see the screenshot, i'm running stock ROM with aerokernel, and xposed and Gravity box.

zazzy24 said:
just curious.. which launcher app are you using? by any chance are you using the google now/experience launcher?
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I'm using google now launcher, why?
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smoza said:
I'm using google now launcher, why?
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try using nova for a day and tell me if u notice a difference in the battery drain...
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It's not bug.

will try something....latters

Excessive battery drain from Google play services

I am running stock 4.4.2 rooted with xposed installed. The title pretty much explains it as well as the picture. I have a lot of apps greenified and have location set to battery saving and have rebooted several times but still get terrible battery drain from Google services
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trich_28 said:
I am running stock 4.4.2 rooted with xposed installed. The title pretty much explains it as well as the picture. I have a lot of apps greenified and have location set to battery saving and have rebooted several times but still get terrible battery drain from Google services
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first off, it being your first post, ill be nice. questions/help/troubleshooting does not go in general, it goes in the q&a/help/troubleshooting section. secondly, you should have searched xda before posting another thread, as we already have many threads about this. here is one that we have been using mainly, for this issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/normal-google-play-services-to-drain-20-t2519831

Sorry man just trying to solve this issue asap. You people should try not to be so stuck up to the newbies. I see it everywhere on this site
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trich_28 said:
Sorry man just trying to solve this issue asap. You people should try not to be so stuck up to the newbies. I see it everywhere on this site
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lol, i was even being nice! didnt say anything that would be considered mean or nasty, or just not nice. i know that youre new, and just trying to solve an issue, and i pointed you towards help. i was just explaining to you about how to post correctly. but we do have our own rules here, which everyone is expected to read and follow, even noobs.

Sorry won't happen again! I went to the thread you directed me to and disabled all the location ones in Google play services using "disable services" and it didn't work for me. Thanks for your help! I'll send a few thanks your way for the misunderstanding
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trich_28 said:
Sorry won't happen again! I went to the thread you directed me to and disabled all the location ones in Google play services using "disable services" and it didn't work for me. Thanks for your help! I'll send a few thanks your way for the misunderstanding
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if you disabled those that are shown in a screenshot, did you reboot first? if not, try again. then let the phone sit there for like 10 minutes, then check.
btw, i do agree with you about some of the meanness that goes on in xda. im not like that, i enjoy helping people too much. and the nexus 5 forums here also, it isnt as bad like the rest of xda. there are many here like me, that actually keep an eye on the forums, to make sure that meanness doesnt go on

Disable them all. Reboot. Then charge the phone fully so battery stats reset
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Ben36 said:
Disable them all. Reboot. Then charge the phone fully so battery stats reset
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dont disable them all.
im sure that he wants a phone that will function like it should, not one thats fully disabled.

simms22 said:
dont disable them all.
im sure that he wants a phone that will function like it should, not one thats fully disabled.
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I would like my phone to function like it should yes lol. I tried to reboot after disabling the ones with location and rebooted and waiting 10 minutes but Google play services time awake is still rising and has been awake for pretty much the whole batter cycle. Could greenify be causing such issues?
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trich_28 said:
I would like my phone to function like it should yes lol. I tried to reboot after disabling the ones with location and rebooted and waiting 10 minutes but Google play services time awake is still rising and has been awake for pretty much the whole batter cycle. Could greenify be causing such issues?
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no, greenify is innocent. if you got all the location, i wonder what else it could be..
would you post this screen from your default battery stats please..

Here ya go
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Here ya go
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thanks. yea, you definitely have something preventing your phone from syncing. check your google sync in main phone settings, check if any of the stuff that you normally sync isnt stuck syncing(either continuous spinning or stopped spinning). alsi, would you post the battery stats page with your apps % battery use.

I checked and it is not stuck syncing :/
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trich_28 said:
I checked and it is not stuck syncing :/
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were you listening to music for a while with the screen off?

simms22 said:
were you listening to music for a while with the screen off?
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Ya I listen to a lot of music with the screen turned off. Could that really cause this?
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trich_28 said:
Ya I listen to a lot of music with the screen turned off. Could that really cause this?
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well.. its probably what actually is keeping your phone awake. dont listen to any music for a while then post the history detail screenshot again.

simms22 said:
well.. its probably what actually is keeping your phone awake. dont listen to any music for a while then post the history detail screenshot again.
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Well I really like to listen to music lol but anyways play music is greenified every time after I use it
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trich_28 said:
Well I really like to listen to music lol but anyways play music is greenified every time after I use it
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maybe so, but at least i will be able to see how your phone actually sleeps, if it does or not, and how much it gets woken

simms22 said:
maybe so, but at least i will be able to see how your phone actually sleeps, if it does or not, and how much it gets woken
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I got this from wake lock detector. I hope it helps. Its Google services
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Could it not be your Google play music using Google services? Just a suggestion
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[Q] Too much battery drain from xposed..

So I got the closed framework and downloaded gravity box, knock code, and app ops. While the phone was fully charged and on standby it turned from 100 to 75% in a couple hours on standby. And while using thenphone there was too much battery drain. Does anyone know from which this happens (I think GB) but please share.
PS. Before applying I would get 20h+ of battery on low to medium usage.

Doesn't knock code need the digitiser to be powered up even when the screen is off?
Try disabling each module one by one until they are all disabled to see what happens.
Please do not post questions in general. Post them in Q&A. You put a [Q] in your thread title so you should know where this thread belongs

rootSU said:
Doesn't knock code need the digitiser to be powered up even when the screen is off?
Try disabling each module one by one until they are all disabled to see what happens.
Please do not post questions in general. Post them in Q&A. You put a [Q] in your thread title so you should know where this thread belongs
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Ya now I disabled them all and please move the thread it should be in Q&A
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The Knock Code drains your battery. It requires the digitizer to be constantly on, thus the drain.

Ubichinon said:
The Knock Code drains your battery. It requires the digitizer to be constantly on, thus the drain.
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But why? It only works when u turn on the screen.. also I turned them all of and still had some drain so I'm thinking bit was the wallpaper..
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Ubichinon said:
The Knock Code drains your battery. It requires the digitizer to be constantly on, thus the drain.
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Doesn't knock code need the digitiser to be powered up even when the screen is off?
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The knock code module just replaces the pattern lock. It doesn't keep the digitizer on like the LG G3. Doesn't work when the screen is off.
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Battery drain rates are very dependent on usage patterns and sometimes the most insignificant settings changes can lead to well hidden sources of current consumption.
So my advise is to try to remember if you made any changes in your applications or usage patterns right before or after starting to use Xposed, as your answer my lie there.
Also try to identify if the high drain occurs from Xposed itself or one of the modules, by deactivating and/or uninstalling modules and Xposed. Please be very careful that usage patterns might easily tip your conclusions off.
To somehow prove what I'm saying here, I've noticed that on a high usage day, my N5 can last as low as only 8-10 hours on a charge, while on a low usage day, after 12 hours since unplugging, it still has at least 80% of the original charge.
Have a nice day!

Lethargy said:
The knock code module just replaces the pattern lock. It doesn't keep the digitizer on like the LG G3. Doesn't work when the screen is off.
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Exactly
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Lethargy said:
The knock code module just replaces the pattern lock. It doesn't keep the digitizer on like the LG G3. Doesn't work when the screen is off.
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isnt the point of it to be used with knock on features?

rootSU said:
isnt the point of it to be used with knock on features?
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I guess it is on the LG G3, but on that device it can also be used when the screen is on, as a lock screen method, which is what the module emulates.
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Ok. Well as suggested turn 1 off , run for as long as possible. Turn another off and run as long as possible. Etc
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Lethargy said:
I guess it is on the LG G3, but on that device it can also be used when the screen is on, as a lock screen method, which is what the module emulates.
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Its fine that its only while the screen is on and its pretty cool actually.
I think I found the problem and that's its from xposed itself....after I uninstalled the framework I THINK that there is less drain...
Can everyone share their version of xpised and what modules they're running and how is the battery usage...?
Thanks
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nabil alami said:
Its fine that its only while the screen is on and its pretty cool actually.
I think I found the problem and that's its from xposed itself....after I uninstalled the framework I THINK that there is less drain...
Can everyone share their version of xpised and what modules they're running and how is the battery usage...?
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Latest Version > 18+ modules > Battery life unaffected

rootSU said:
Latest Version > 18+ modules > Battery life unaffected
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There isn't a huge drain even on stabdy? And are you using GB?
Please link to the latest version
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nabil alami said:
There isn't a huge drain even on stabdy? And are you using GB?
Please link to the latest version
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No additional drain. Latest version available via the xposed installer app.

Really, the user experience with Xposed varies from one user to another xD
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rootSU said:
No additional drain. Latest version available via the xposed installer app.
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2.6.1?
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Lethargy said:
Really, the user experience with Xposed varies from one user to another xD
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To a limit...as having so much drain using three known modules is very starnge. I lost 35% on a couple hours if total standby. So there is something wrong.
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2.6.1?
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Thats just the installer app. It does nothing except intall teh frameowrk, but yes that is the latest app. go to "downloads" tab and it will show you it is up to date.

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Thats just the installer app. It does nothing except intall teh frameowrk, but yes that is the latest app. go to "downloads" tab and it will show you it is up to date.
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What's the difference between the classical installation and the normal installation!
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