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continued to be blown away by battery life

I got my note from tmob and have it on att.
After root and killing all the bloat, the battery is just amazing on this phone.
I am at 1 day and 10 hour off the charger with screen time of 3 hours and 52 minutes and I still have 49% battery
Thats with facebook and gmail checks all day and running in the background. Photos, text etc etc.
Finally 2 day + phone

I'm actually pretty disappointed by the battery life... I "only" get 6.30h ost and 1 day battery life(no wake locks and the phone is settled pretty well with useless function disabled), with sync always active and on wifi only, I personally thought that it will be better considering all the good comments on the webs, I was getting the same battery with my iPhone 5 before(that it's very criticised for its battery).
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I turned off most syncs under Settings -> Accounts. Did the whole google services uninstall updates and cleared data. Great battery life also.
1d 1h 24m on battery. 19% screen. 64% remaining.

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I turned off most syncs under Settings -> Accounts. Did the whole google services uninstall updates and cleared data. Great battery life also.
1d 1h 24m on battery. 19% screen. 64% remaining.
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That sucks having to turn of syncing. That's the main feature of a smart phone. Sync to and from computer or cloud.
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My Note 3 has had awesome battery life, far exceeded my expectations! 10hrs at work with moderate to heavy use with a signal only 75% of that time (inside a building with thick concrete and re bar, not the phones fault). At most ive used 48% of the battery and that does not include the commute. I have sync turned on as well.
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dallastx said:
That sucks having to turn of syncing. That's the main feature of a smart phone. Sync to and from computer or cloud.
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Syncing it self is turned on, its the individual settings that's been changed:
Sync Chrome? no..
Sync Gmail? no...
Sync My Tracks? no...
Sync Picasa Web Albums? no...
Sync ChatOn Contacts? no...
Sync Samsung Calendar? no...
Sync Internet? no...
Sync Scrapbook? no...
Sync Skype Contacts? no...
So I'm not really sure what you're getting at. K9 handles my mail via push. Google calendar, contacts and one or two other things is left on but everything else I don't need it waking up my CPU every so often to sync.
Also for the Accuweather widget, all the battery saving features are turned on (which aren't on by default for some reason), sync every 4 hours.

@op : could you tell us which bloat you removed?
Also is there anyway to root safely that doesn't void the warranty?
I have the N9000 version

basically anything that was tmobile or just garbage. I also freeze a lot of stuff I simply never use. S-voice.. nope.
Not sure on the warranty thing. I am fairly certain this will trip the Knox counter which I dont think has been cracked to roll back... but thats just my understanding.

Battery life is pretty decent, provided you manage your phone as opposed to being a lazy sod who sets everything to automatic.
"But it's meant for it!" being the world's most idiotic excuse after "she asked for it", everyone with a scrap of common sense understands that there is a whole universe between 'what the customer wants' and 'what is possible according to the laws of physics'.
WiFi eats about 15% per hour, with the screen off. 3G 5%. Add the screen and cpu to that and make you own calculations.
I do 10 days with mine if I turn everything off and manually toggle 3g on once every 2h to check mail.
I've been on 3g, tapatalk & 30% brightness, went from 100% to 94% in 10 minutes.
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I use it mainly for office purpose and email exchange is ever hungry on push mails. I was quite disappointed to see that I was charging twice a day in day time. But after the OTA update things seems better, where I charge only in night.
Anyways, I got my 12,000 mah power bank for emergencies. I hate swapping batteries.
My heavy uses are exchange emails, browsing, WhatsApp. That's all, and yet Note 3 craves more power. Need on the go sunlight/light charge system
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My battery last so long that at the end of the day I am doing stuff make it run down.
Of course I turn off wifi when not using and data.
I am pretty sure with root I could get more but I need my warranty for at least another month.
Usually a device will show its faults in a month so I will wait.
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I've had my N3 for a week now, and compared to my razr HD, it runs at least a day longer. I'm on about 3 full days per charge.
As my phone is more or less a toy, I don't use the internet part that much (I have a 200MB restriction) while away from home, but regularly use wifi for about an hour per day. Other than that, I use it for puzzle games and reading.
I know that this won't match others usages, but I'm ok with 3 days. Maybe if I tweak some settings, I get 4???

I'm quite disappointed too with the battery, the screens chews up too much battery on full brightness
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I wish I had 3 full days of battery life. I leave for work in the morning with 100% battery and Im usually at about 10% or less by the time I get home 12 hours later.

DMax99 said:
I'm quite disappointed too with the battery, the screens chews up too much battery on full brightness
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Mine gets about 5 ans half hours of screen time versus my nexus 4 which gets about 2.5 hrs
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jetbruceli said:
Mine gets about 5 ans half hours of screen time versus my nexus 4 which gets about 2.5 hrs
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Are you on full brightness with power saving off?
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DMax99 said:
Are you on full brightness with power saving off?
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Auto brightness but plus 5.
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Auto brightness but plus 5.
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That's why yours last longer. Mines on full brightness, I think the screen looks best with that setting. The battery dies quick though
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DMax99 said:
That's why yours last longer. Mines on full brightness, I think the screen looks best with that setting. The battery dies quick though
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That doesn't make sense when it's in a dark room though
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jetbruceli said:
That doesn't make sense when it's in a dark room though
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Looks awesome in the dark ;p
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Battery usage

Hi guys, I've just bought a Motorola moto g 16gb and then I've installed android 4.4.2 and I noticed that the battery stats doesn't show the battery usage of many user apps..
Is it a bug or not?
(Before this phone I had a HTC desire c with android 4.1.2 cyanogenmod)
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It is not a bug.. android does not show user apps battery data anymore..
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Ah.. I found it very useful sometime..
And is it normal the percentage of battery used by the screen? (I keep it around 30/40% during the day)
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zazzy24 said:
It is not a bug.. android does not show user apps battery data anymore..
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It does, but it won't show any user app that is less than (I think) 4% use. He's got a user app showing up on the list in his screenshot.
What has changed is that some user app use of core OS features now get reported as Android OS/Android System where as under JB they were reported as the originating app.
smoza said:
Ah.. I found it very useful sometime..
And is it normal the percentage of battery used by the screen? (I keep it around 30/40% during the day)
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What was your screen on time? (Long press Screen/Shermo)

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What was your screen on time? (Long press Screen/Shermo)
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Yesterday I recharged it so the old screen on time is gone.. But today I didn't used it a lot but the percentage of used battery is 53%
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Hey @smoza I noticed in your screenshots you're using a battery percentage app. Did you know that KitKat already supports battery percentage? You can enable it with this app, without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent
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smoza said:
Yesterday I recharged it so the old screen on time is gone.. But today I didn't used it a lot but the percentage of used battery is 53%
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OK, really need to know battery consumed, how much of that is reported to be the screen and the screen on time to see if that is an issue. It is normal for screen to be top of the list with regular usage but how much it drains (and how much screen on time you get) is basically going to be a function of your brightness settings.
Looking at your second screen shot I can see a couple of things you might want to investigate/change.
Wifi is always on - fine if you are actually connected to wifi - but if you are out and about and not using a wifi connection having wifi enabled will add a significant amount to your idle drain rate. You should also disable 'Scanning always available' in the Advanced Wifi Settings (Settings/Wifi/Menu Button.Advanced).
Your cell signal is often quite poor - not a lot you can do about it but that will cause faster drain when you are connected to mobile data.
Your phone is waking up regularly when not in use. There could be numerous causes for this, but most likely it is having location set to High Accuracy or Battery Saver - the phone is regularly collecting info from your cell tower connections and surrounding wifi networks to feed back to Google to get a location fix, and apps that like to know your location may be asking for a fix regularly. Depending on what you use location for you may wish to consider turning it off entirely or running in Device Only mode.
You've used GPS - some people have experienced an issue with a continually higher drain rate after using GPS - it's intermittent - for some it is everytime after using GPS, some most of the time, others very occasionally. A reboot will fix if this is an issue (it doesn't look like it is a problem but it's hard to tell - it's most obvious if the battery drains in airplane mode).

I turned off the GPS right now, disabled 'scanning always available' and set the brightness as auto.. I'll write here if this will increase my battery life or not, thank you anyway
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smoza said:
I turned off the GPS right now, disabled 'scanning always available' and set the brightness as auto.. I'll write here if this will increase my battery life or not, thank you anyway
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You might want to keep it between 10 to 20% manually adjusting to higher levels if you're going outside, for the brightness sensor to not be working and therefore, consuming more battery.

From this morning at 10a.m. with 94% of battery I reached the 9p.m. with 7% of battery and I used it a bit more of my average use.. That's better than before (I had to charge my phone at 8p.m.), so thank you guys
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smoza said:
From this morning at 10a.m. with 94% of battery I reached the 9p.m. with 7% of battery and I used it a bit more of my average use.. That's better than before (I had to charge my phone at 8p.m.), so thank you guys
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just curious.. which launcher app are you using? by any chance are you using the google now/experience launcher?
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pisherthefisher said:
Hey @smoza I noticed in your screenshots you're using a battery percentage app. Did you know that KitKat already supports battery percentage? You can enable it with this app, without root https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.kroegerama.android4batpercent
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this app is pretty much useless as till your battery is very low it won't show the battery %... wish someone came up with a circle battery with text app for moto g..
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There is anything to do to fix. this bug? The phone had aroun 70% of battery and the phone shootdown it self and you can see the results, 0% of battery but the phone is still working.
Here you can see the screenshot, i'm running stock ROM with aerokernel, and xposed and Gravity box.

zazzy24 said:
just curious.. which launcher app are you using? by any chance are you using the google now/experience launcher?
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I'm using google now launcher, why?
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smoza said:
I'm using google now launcher, why?
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try using nova for a day and tell me if u notice a difference in the battery drain...
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It's not bug.

will try something....latters

Battery draining

I don't know why. I have wake lock sector and have greenify. I use them to counteract the apps the suck my juice. I don't use 3g much and do light gaming and WiFi usage. I only get 2hrs SOT. PLEASE HELP I USE TO GET 4HRS (haven't done anything since)
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dec1153 said:
I don't know why. I have wake lock sector and have greenify. I use them to counteract the apps the suck my juice. I don't use 3g much and do light gaming and WiFi usage. I only get 2hrs SOT. PLEASE HELP I USE TO GET 4HRS (haven't done anything since)
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You're going to have to supply some information from gsam or better battery stats for anyone to help you. It could be anything that is keeping your phone awake
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Here. Google seems to taking a lot. Please help now
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google search would normally be up there, it also includes the launcher plus other things. you use googles launcher dont you? the play store and calandar storage is being used too often.

Did this issue appear in the last weak or so? I'm encountering the same issue, it drives me nuts.
Using same apps as usual, no gaming and still my battery drain is far worse than before. I have even disabled Google Now and Location all together.
Installed GSAM now to analyze the stats, nothing unusual in Android battery stats compared to the stats I had before.

is google play services showing up for you guys?

simms22 said:
is google play services showing up for you guys?
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Low single digit %
Edit, my battery is still good, 5 + sot
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simms22 said:
is google play services showing up for you guys?
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I wouldn't necessarily say my drain is bad, but yeah google play services did start showing up for me the past two days. I think it might be because of the google search update. Could be from the parking location feature.

razvanbalica said:
Did this issue appear in the last weak or so? I'm encountering the same issue, it drives me nuts.
Using same apps as usual, no gaming and still my battery drain is far worse than before. I have even disabled Google Now and Location all together.
Installed GSAM now to analyze the stats, nothing unusual in Android battery stats compared to the stats I had before.
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Yes last week or so. My battery is really bad now. Don't know what to do
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dec1153 said:
Yes last week or so. My battery is really bad now. Don't know what to do
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It seems weird that my HTC One M8 doesn't have this issue, at least I don't sense it.

PsychDrummer said:
I wouldn't necessarily say my drain is bad, but yeah google play services did start showing up for me the past two days. I think it might be because of the google search update. Could be from the parking location feature.
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the play services showed up on mine as well, 2 or 3 days ago. my phone normally sleeps better than a knocked out baby, but since the play services showed up, i see it wake every few minutes on my battery usage chart(draining some extra battery). been changing my permissions not allowing anything to wake my device, but it still does.

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the play services showed up on mine as well, 2 or 3 days ago. my phone normally sleeps better than a knocked out baby, but since the play services showed up, i see it wake every few minutes on my battery usage chart(draining some extra battery). been changing my permissions not allowing anything to wake my device, but it still does.
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It could be that mine doesn't usually sleep that well that I'm not seeing a huge difference. Speaking of permissions though, I actually made it so G+ can't wake the device because I don't use it, and it still wakes it sometimes.

Try gsam from play store. And if rooted....gsam root companion as well.
Do a full charge, 100 to low....no reboots. Then print a few gsam screens. The main screen, app screen, and in app screen.... Click the drop down and screenshot time held awake and kernel Wakelocks. Also, maybe "screen" screen and radio screen.
I know its a lot, but between all these your issue should show up.
Tho....if you have terrible signal ever while on data....that will crush your battery.
Good luck!!

Yes I have noticed that now my Google play services is right at the top. I might as well try a placebo and do battery calibration. Fingers crossed lol
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dec1153 said:
Yes I have noticed that now my Google play services is right at the top. I might as well try a placebo and do battery calibration. Fingers crossed lol
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You're battery calibrates every time you charge it. No need to do anything else.
I'm noticing more than the normal amount of "suddenly my battery is draining" threads. Seems to coincide with the update to Google Search. I also noticed my battery draining itself with nothing being reported in the battery page last night but a reboot put an end to it as usual.

Massive drain with no wake locks

Hey all
I had a wake lock trigger that was draining my battery so I decided to try and find what was causing it. I turned off all background sync and disabled GPS. I charged my phone to full and then let it drain over night. As you can see in screen shots... Massive drain occurred with no visual signs of the cause. Anyone have an idea?
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Demonic240 said:
Hey all
I had a wake lock trigger that was draining my battery so I decided to try and find what was causing it. I turned off all background sync and disabled GPS. I charged my phone to full and then let it drain over night. As you can see in screen shots... Massive drain occurred with no visual signs of the cause. Anyone have an idea?
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Try to turn off wifi and see what happens

Demonic240 said:
Hey all
I had a wake lock trigger that was draining my battery so I decided to try and find what was causing it. I turned off all background sync and disabled GPS. I charged my phone to full and then let it drain over night. As you can see in screen shots... Massive drain occurred with no visual signs of the cause. Anyone have an idea?
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Did you get any shots of the Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks screens in bbs? That's where you would see the culprit(s). Also, do you ever do soft reboots? Some people (including myself) have experienced increased battery drain with no visible wakelocks after soft rebooting. Doing a full reboot seems to fix it.
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It's definitely something using Wi-Fi. Need more in depth analysis
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premo15 said:
Did you get any shots of the Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks screens in bbs? That's where you would see the culprit(s). Also, do you ever do soft reboots? Some people (including myself) have experienced increased battery drain with no visible wakelocks after soft rebooting. Doing a full reboot seems to fix it.
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I checked those but there was nothing abnormal. I'd done a reboot when I flashed the kernel back to stock pa.
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rootSU said:
It's definitely something using Wi-Fi. Need more in depth analysis
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I've disabled wifi and it drained to dead. Going to recharge to full and see what it does off wi-fi. What could I do to see why/if wi-fi is killing it?

You can see it is draining it in your screen shots. Maybe you didn't fully disable the background Wi-Fi usage. "scanning always enabled" for example
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rootSU said:
You can see it is draining it in your screen shots. Maybe you didn't fully disable the background Wi-Fi usage. "scanning always enabled" for example
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That was one of the first things I disabled.

Demonic240 said:
That was one of the first things I disabled.
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Doesn't look like its disabled correctly. Your screenshot shows nearly 8 hours Wi-Fi.
Maybe there is a bug in your settings data.
Not sure if you're rooted or not but maybe a backup / wipe is the best course of action
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rootSU said:
Doesn't look like its disabled correctly. Your screenshot shows nearly 8 hours Wi-Fi.
Maybe there is a bug in your settings data.
Not sure if you're rooted or not but maybe a backup / wipe is the best course of action
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Here's the current setting. I guess I can factory reset again. I'll try that after this current charge cycle.
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You could try booting the phone into safe mode to see if it's a 3rd party app, though unnecessary if you plan on trying a full reset anyways.

Disable xposed
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Factory reset, no syncing enabled, no auto updates, google now disabled, no apps other than stock gapps installed. Still high android os usage.

Demonic240 said:
Factory reset, no syncing enabled, no auto updates, google now disabled, no apps other than stock gapps installed. Still high android os usage.
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while at first it looks high, in reality it isnt(yet). in your screenshot you have only lost 5% battery so far with light use. at this point you really cant tell what your battery will be like with use.

simms22 said:
while at first it looks high, in reality it isnt(yet). in your screenshot you have only lost 5% battery so far with light use. at this point you really cant tell what your battery will be like with use.
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How about now?

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How about now?
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ahh, thats a little better, but itll drop a little more with use. while 20 is a little high, id still classify as normal. really anything up to 20% is normal. typically, after a full cycle, i see android os between 9-15%. but it would all depend on exactly how you use your phone.

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ahh, thats a little better, but itll drop a little more with use. while 20 is a little high, id still classify as normal. really anything up to 20% is normal. typically, after a full cycle, i see android os between 9-15%. but it would all depend on exactly how you use your phone.
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Right now.. I'm not doing anything other than replying to this thread.

Demonic240 said:
Right now.. I'm not doing anything other than replying to this thread.
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i see that chrome(and chrome sandbox) is taking a huge amount of battery for very little use. 21% together, just to respond to xda..

Install system monitor from play store and check CPU freq and number of CPU's online while screen on.
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As said above....use the phone normally and check when its almost drained. It will surely be much lower.
If location is on...it will probably be higher than 10% I'd guess. If so....completely normal.

Whats working for me

I've finally got the phone to where I want it. I got over 38 hours battery life with over 3 hours on screen time. I'm on 4g LTE from 730 am until around 8pm. GPS is on as well as auto brightness. Using UUClean with lean droid.

memtenn said:
I've finally got the phone to where I want it. I got over 38 hours battery life with over 3 hours on screen time. I'm on 4g LTE from 730 am until around 8pm. GPS is on as well as auto brightness. Was trying to post the screenshot that shows the 38 hours but it says the file is to large to post. Any idea how to work around it?
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Maybe cropping it?
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Cropped it thanks.

memtenn said:
Cropped it thanks.
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Take a screenshot of the usage ....Like on screen time , calls, etc....
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Take a screenshot of the usage ....Like on screen time , calls, etc....
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I've charged my phone since taking the screen shots last night. I'm new to the screenshot images as you can tell.lol I'll go more in depth next time. But there is a screenshot of on-screen time in the first post if that helps a little.