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As I'm sure most of us have been, with all the ICS Roms being posted as of the last couple of days, I've been a Flashaholic trying all these different Roms and so on and so on. Well, my question is...
I feel my Internal SD Card is getting full of folders that are becoming obsolete/redundant, so does anyone know what are the "Bare Minimum Folders" required to run correctly. IOW, I want to delete everything but the "True System Folders". I'm hoping that by getting rid of everything, it'll free up space, and speed the system up as a whole because it's not having to search a huge Index for where it's trying to pull info from to operate.
I personally feel like I can delete everything from there, with the obvious exceptions being the Files included in the Rom.. but once again, that's just my "Noob-ness".. lol..
As always any help would be greatly appreciated, and I would also like to thank anyone for their assistance in this matter in advance.
What I usually do to clean up is to go to storage in settings on the phone, and format usb storage. This keeps only the necessary stuff for system and gets rid of all of the extra stuff. I keep all of my files like music, etc on the ext. sd card, so it doesn't get wiped.
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So after doing this do you have to go into recovery and re-flash the Rom? or will it automatically create the folders as you open the Apps?
sledgeharvy said:
So after doing this do you have to go into recovery and re-flash the Rom? or will it automatically create the folders as you open the Apps?
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Just to clarify, I'm talking about doing this in the rom and not in recovery. You won't have to reflash the rom, and apps will create what they need as you run them.
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Oh, okay, I was originally talking about as your phone is running, go into Settings/Storage, and Format from there, but I didn't see that option. Lol..
So overall, I can delete anything I want to on the larger 13.03Gb and the smaller 1.85Gb internal sd card I can not delete anything from there because it's reserved for Apps and System Files/Folders.
sledgeharvy said:
Oh, okay, I was originally talking about as your phone is running, go into Settings/Storage, and Format from there, but I didn't see that option. Lol..
So overall, I can delete anything I want to on the larger 13.03Gb and the smaller 1.85Gb internal sd card I can not delete anything from there because it's reserved for Apps and System Files/Folders.
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Pretty much, but there are a few files that stay if you go the settings/storage/format route, so I do that to get rid of junk in the 13.03 GB partition. But you are right, you mainly don't want to delete stuff on the smaller internal partition, unless you know what you are deleting.
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I still havent seen an answer for this issue, but I have over 6GB of Miscellaneous Files in Setting->Storage. nothing in there shows that much info, so I know its from loading different ROMs. I have no idea how to get rid of these files. I've been looking all around CWM for something to clear, but I'm not too confident about messing with that.
Does anyone have an idea of how to clear up this stuff?
Do you have a few nandroid backups? Those will register there. If you're using TWRP, there's a TWRP folder and you can remove them or archive them off. Clockwork is the same, I just don't remember offhand where it stores them.
If this isn't it, you can install busybox, and then either adb shell, or use a terminal emulator on the phone and run `du /mnt/sdcard -hl -d 1` you can then drill down to the directories which are the biggest offenders. Changing the 1 to another number increases the depth that it reports.
Coop9 said:
Do you have a few nandroid backups? Those will register there. If you're using TWRP, there's a TWRP folder and you can remove them or archive them off. Clockwork is the same, I just don't remember offhand where it stores them.
If this isn't it, you can install busybox, and then either adb shell, or use a terminal emulator on the phone and run `du /mnt/sdcard -hl -d 1` you can then drill down to the directories which are the biggest offenders. Changing the 1 to another number increases the depth that it reports.
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Okay. I finally managed to get this started. I went through terminal emulator and found that the /sdcard is only 7.6GB while the number in the main settings says over 10. /android has 2GB from some games, but I can't find anything showing where the 6GB of miscellaneous file is at. Even cwm is only 1.7GB from the one backup I have.
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I've been fiddling with this for the last day or so and found that under miscellaneous file, System Memory now shows up as taking 3.67 GB of data. I've been looking everywhere to see where that much info could be, but I'm kinda stuck now.
I now know where that extra space has gone, but I have no idea how to free it up.
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Galaxy S4 Miscellaneous Files: what and where are they?
So I'm getting a warning that the internal SD is out of memory, I've moved all movable apps to external SD, photos, music too.
Rooted and have TWIP as recovery *BUT* before I install a custom ROM, I want a backup *BUT* there's no room as the backup wants to use internal SD (not external)
Somehow Miscellaneous Files show over 8GB but in My Files it only shows about 200MB addressable (erasable). I deleted all Dropbox files and saved 200MB.
Where the heck are the other 7.8GB of files? How can I see them please?
Thanks in advance.
greenja said:
So I'm getting a warning that the internal SD is out of memory, I've moved all movable apps to external SD, photos, music too.
Rooted and have TWIP as recovery *BUT* before I install a custom ROM, I want a backup *BUT* there's no room as the backup wants to use internal SD (not external)
Somehow Miscellaneous Files show over 8GB but in My Files it only shows about 200MB addressable (erasable). I deleted all Dropbox files and saved 200MB.
Where the heck are the other 7.8GB of files? How can I see them please?
Thanks in advance.
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I am in the same boat with no solution
I fixed it
jinan said:
I am in the same boat with no solution
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backup *everything* and reformat *internal* SD card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44217580#post44217580
hope it helps
greenja said:
backup *everything* and reformat *internal* SD card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44217580#post44217580
hope it helps
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I did this but didn't solve the problem for me. However, I did find a solution which worked for me. I used CWM, went in to the >Backup and Restore>Delete> and chose to delete all backups in the internal SD. Solved my problem
jinan said:
I did this but didn't solve the problem for me. However, I did find a solution which worked for me. I used CWM, went in to the >Backup and Restore>Delete> and chose to delete all backups in the internal SD. Solved my problem
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WOW!!!!
i am so happy i found your tip. finally i managed to clean the mysterious 9Gb in my storage.
thank you very much!!!
Clean Data folder
DaemonAshra said:
I still havent seen an answer for this issue, but I have over 6GB of Miscellaneous Files in Setting->Storage. nothing in there shows that much info, so I know its from loading different ROMs. I have no idea how to get rid of these files. I've been looking all around CWM for something to clear, but I'm not too confident about messing with that.
Does anyone have an idea of how to clear up this stuff?
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Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me. Don't forget to thank me
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
A lot of that is cached data for apps. If you use apps like gmusic, it caches music files to the device and that cache folder will grow. Root access will allow you to clear all your data es, including hidden files and that size will drop.
Adjetey Boye said:
Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me.
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
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There's nothing in that folder.
So not that simple.
If you're rooted, get Cache Cleaner NG and let it wipe all that unnecessary data. I run it weekly.
With roms like gummy, you can click on Misc and see which app has all the data... It's likely something like Vine (it had a huuuuuuuge cache) or another app like gmusic.
beepea206 said:
If you're rooted, get Cache Cleaner NG and let it wipe all that unnecessary data. I run it weekly.
With roms like gummy, you can click on Misc and see which app has all the data... It's likely something like Vine (it had a huuuuuuuge cache) or another app like gmusic.
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Sir (or madam).
I need you to fully understand exactly how amazing of a person you are. I don't know where the data was or what ate it all, but this app got it all back and you are awesome for recommending it.
Adjetey Boye said:
Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me.
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
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It worked for me, I have deleted the folder /data/media entirely。
Tks very much.
I recently ran into a similar issue with my rooted nook tablet. It was killing my sd cards. When I put the sd cards in my laptop, I erased all partitions and that fixed them.
I used to be a moderator in a forum that helped people with car trouble. I have accumulated some good karma. please help me
Eastsun said:
It worked for me, I have deleted the folder /data/media entirely。
Tks very much.
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glad to be of help
Adjetey Boye said:
Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me. Don't forget to thank me
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
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Six and a half years later on XIAOMI redmi note 8T I habe finally found 6GB of data in orangenfox folder that I dont need ( for miui ota ). Thank you.
Hello all,
I have a VZW Galaxy S3 and am using Scott's CleanRom 5.0
I noticed yesterday that my internal card is 2gb from being full. My external SD is a 32gb and only has a few pictures and some music on it. So I have been wandering around the phone settings trying to figure out how to move my apps to the sd card and free up some space. Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks in advance.
drzcharlie said:
Hello all,
I have a VZW Galaxy S3 and am using Scott's CleanRom 5.0
I noticed yesterday that my internal card is 2gb from being full. My external SD is a 32gb and only has a few pictures and some music on it. So I have been wandering around the phone settings trying to figure out how to move my apps to the sd card and free up some space. Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks in advance.
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The only app that works is link2sd, on the market. But one draw back is you need to reconfig your external sdcard to do this. Reformat and create 2 partions on your sd card, first partition should be fat32, this where you keep your stuff (music/video/pics) and the second partition is for your apps. link2sd will move your app to the second partition on your sdcard and create a reference so your OS would know where to find it.
Note: If you already have stuff on your sdcard, you can keep them by resize the first partion then create the second partion. This way you still have your data intact.
drzcharlie said:
Hello all,
I have a VZW Galaxy S3 and am using Scott's CleanRom 5.0
I noticed yesterday that my internal card is 2gb from being full. My external SD is a 32gb and only has a few pictures and some music on it. So I have been wandering around the phone settings trying to figure out how to move my apps to the sd card and free up some space. Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks in advance.
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I think you are better off moving data instead of the apps. You can get your music, images, and videos and free up a lot of space (Samsung camera can default to save on external card, 4.2 Canberra doesn't have that setting as far as i can tell). Advantage of this is that even if you brick / break / wipe your phone you can still retrieve your images and music. Pop the card in a new phone and everything is still there. More than that, have titanium backup on the external card and easily transfer non-system apps to the new phone.
buhohitr said:
The only app that works is link2sd, on the market. But one draw back is you need to reconfig your external sdcard to do this. Reformat and create 2 partions on your sd card, first partition should be fat32, this where you keep your stuff (music/video/pics) and the second partition is for your apps. link2sd will move your app to the second partition on your sdcard and create a reference so your OS would know where to find it.
Note: If you already have stuff on your sdcard, you can keep them by resize the first partion then create the second partion. This way you still have your data intact.
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Let me make sure I understand correctly. The app will guide you through the partitioning process or is this something I have to do independent from the app?
Thanks in advance.
tsachi said:
I think you are better off moving data instead of the apps. You can get your music, images, and videos and free up a lot of space (Samsung camera can default to save on external card, 4.2 Canberra doesn't have that setting as far as i can tell). Advantage of this is that even if you brick / break / wipe your phone you can still retrieve your images and music. Pop the card in a new phone and everything is still there. More than that, have titanium backup on the external card and easily transfer non-system apps to the new phone.
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First I guess I need to explain that I still use iTunes in conjunction with Tune Sync for my music so back up isn't an issue for music. My photos are uploaded to SmugMug so they too are backed up. It just seems that my data and apps are hogging the internal SD.
I have TB Pro installed but admittedly don't know much about it yet as I have converted from the Dark Side (IOS). So, how do I get it to do what I need? Perhaps there is a tutorial somewhere on YouTube I could look up.
EDIT: I found the setting in Camera storage but no option to change it. I just says "SD Card" I assume that is internal SD?
drzcharlie said:
Let me make sure I understand correctly. The app will guide you through the partitioning process or is this something I have to do independent from the app?
Thanks in advance.
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You have to do it manually. It's pretty simple, may take around 20min. Just download the "gparted" iso image, then use imgburn to burn this image on your cd, reboot with cd as default boot device instead of your harddisk, once you booted into gpart operating system, there will be a gui you could use to partion your sdcard, first resize your existing partion, then create a new one from the unallocate partion as ext4. Remember both partion have to be PRIMARY and set the ext4 to boot (once you create the ext4, just right click, select flag then select boot).
Gparted boot creator
download gparted iso:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
burn with imgburn:
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
How to use link2sd.
click on the app you want to move then select "link to sd" button. Don't click on move app to sd, this is for the old GB rom only.
tsachi said:
I think you are better off moving data instead of the apps. You can get your music, images, and videos and free up a lot of space (Samsung camera can default to save on external card, 4.2 Canberra doesn't have that setting as far as i can tell). Advantage of this is that even if you brick / break / wipe your phone you can still retrieve your images and music. Pop the card in a new phone and everything is still there. More than that, have titanium backup on the external card and easily transfer non-system apps to the new phone.
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buhohitr said:
You have to do it manually. It's pretty simple, may take around 20min. Just download the "gparted" iso image, then use imgburn to burn this image on your cd, reboot with cd as default boot device instead of your harddisk, once you booted into gpart operating system, there will be a gui you could use to partion your sdcard, first resize your existing partion, then create a new one from the unallocate partion as ext4. Remember both partion have to be PRIMARY and set the ext4 to boot (once you create the ext4, just right click, select flag then select boot).
Gparted boot creator
download gparted iso:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
burn with imgburn:
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
How to use link2sd.
click on the app you want to move then select "link to sd" button. Don't click on move app to sd, this is for the old GB rom only.
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Thank you for all of this. I won't be able to do this until I return where I can burn the image. Looks fairly simple and I will give it a go when I return to work.
You could always plug your phone into your computer and drop and drag the files you want over to your external card.
sfobrien said:
You could always plug your phone into your computer and drop and drag the files you want over to your external card.
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I had wondered if I could do that without affecting anything. I'll give it a try.
Thanks
Your welcome.
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drzcharlie said:
I had wondered if I could do that without affecting anything. I'll give it a try.
Thanks
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You only can move video/music/pictures/backup files etc.. to your ext sdcard, but you cannot move your apps to external card. Your apps will stopped working. Link2sd allowed you to install all your downdoad apps to your SDcard (most of them, some apps required to stay internal, like widgets etc...)
buhohitr said:
You only can move video/music/pictures/backup files etc.. to your ext sdcard, but you cannot move your apps to external card. Your apps will stopped working. Link2sd allowed you to install all your downdoad apps to your SDcard (most of them, some apps required to stay internal, like widgets etc...)
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I should have been more clear. What I suggested was just for backing up files in case the internal memory were to get wiped, example being if a new ROM was flashed with Odin, back to stock, etc. Thanks.
sfobrien said:
I should have been more clear. What I suggested was just for backing up files in case the internal memory were to get wiped, example being if a new ROM was flashed with Odin, back to stock, etc. Thanks.
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I did more research prior to moving them manually and found that what you just posted would have that affect. So, I still haven't done anything. My computer is old and not capable of burning a disc so I need to use a work computer but will have to do it after hours.
On a semi- related matter, since flashing CR 5.0 my settings for "Nearby Devices" is grayed out. I have been using this in conjunction with viewing photos on my TV. Any thoughts on why this might have happened? I re-flashed without success in gaining access.
drzcharlie said:
I did more research prior to moving them manually and found that what you just posted would have that affect. So, I still haven't done anything. My computer is old and not capable of burning a disc so I need to use a work computer but will have to do it after hours.
On a semi- related matter, since flashing CR 5.0 my settings for "Nearby Devices" is grayed out. I have been using this in conjunction with viewing photos on my TV. Any thoughts on why this might have happened? I re-flashed without success in gaining access.
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I believe you need to install Allshare in order for this option to work.
Is there a way to download and install the Allshare app separately? I didn't choose it when doing the CR5.0 install. I looked on the playstore, but don't see it. I was going to re-install the ROM, but would rather just load the app if i could.
Only way I know is to flash ROM again. I don't use it. You don't have to wipe data just cache and dalvik.
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Thanks for that information. I wonder if Allshare is available somewhere? Google is my friend...
This appears to be the Allshare app. It does everything the stock app did. I'll try it and report back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5zZWMuYW5kcm9pZC5hbGxTaGFyZUNvbnRyb2wiXQ..
This appears to be the Allshare app. It does everything the stock app did. I'll try it and report back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5zZWMuYW5kcm9pZC5hbGxTaGFyZUNvbnRyb2wiXQ..
EDIT: Nope, when opened it states: Allshare Framework not installed application will exit
Well, it was worth asking the question. I will be reflashing the ROM tonight. I just noticed a issue with what I believe would be the KindaCrap mods I installed. I removed the clock from the notification bar, and changed the battery to just a percentage, and the percentage was really slow while charging like it wasn't taking a charge. After rebooting I was near 60%, when it was showing me 20% before the reboot. I think a fresh install will be good.
Hi all,
I am trying to figure out whats taking all the space on my internal sd card. I switched to twrp recovery and deleted all clockworkmod related things, but it still says theres only 1 gb of free space left. I know for sure I could not possibly have used that much space. I store no music, very little photos.
I have tried using pc programs to visualize the space usage but none of them have been able to read the sd card, only the drives on the computer (spacesniffer for example).
Multiple apps installed (SDcard manager, Slim file manager) state i have 1 gb free space left, while another app (Storage Analyser) says I have 9gb free space.
Anyone have a program that will allow me to see whats taking up my space?
Thank you very much!
How many CWM backups did you have? When using CWM, after deleting your CWM backups did also you select the option to free up the space? How many TWRP backups do you now have?
Do you have any games installed? Have you checked file sizes or tried deleting leftover files under /sdcard/android? A lot of app data resides in the following three file paths:
/sdcard/android
/sdcard/data
/sdcard/Download
SlimSnoopOS said:
How many CWM backups did you have? When using CWM, after deleting your CWM backups did also you select the option to free up the space? How many TWRP backups do you now have?
Do you have any games installed? Have you checked file sizes or tried deleting leftover files under /sdcard/android? A lot of app data resides in the following three file paths:
/sdcard/android
/sdcard/data
/sdcard/Download
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I had a few cwm backups. When using the "free up space" option in cwm about a week ago, it was such a small amount it said it would free up. I only have 1 twrp backup right now. I deleted all the CWM blob files and the file folder.
I'll take a look at the three file paths and come back. Thanks for your help
EDIT: nothing in /sdcard/data, sdcard/download is minimal, and sdcard/android is fairly minimal too
amotamatapia said:
I had a few cwm backups. When using the "free up space" option in cwm about a week ago, it was such a small amount it said it would free up. I only have 1 twrp backup right now. I deleted all the CWM blob files and the file folder.
I'll take a look at the three file paths and come back. Thanks for your help
EDIT: nothing in /sdcard/data, sdcard/download is minimal, and sdcard/android is fairly minimal too
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No problem. Roughly 5 GB of data are set aside for the system, so as a reference:
-the 16 Gb GSIII would have at most 11.5 GB of free data
-the 32 GB GSIII would have at most 27.5 GB of free data
SlimSnoopOS said:
No problem. Roughly 5 GB of data are set aside for the system, so as a reference:
-the 16 Gb GSIII would have at most 11.5 GB of free data
-the 32 GB GSIII would have at most 27.5 GB of free data
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Yeah, the weird thing though is that about a month ago i ran into the same issue of running out of space. and found that the CWM blob files were taking up about 5gb. And i had thought this was the same issue again, so I flashed TWRP and deleted the CWM files, but they arent the ones taking up the space this time
That's weird but like I said those are the main directories where app data resides on /sdcard. Which GSIII do you have 16GB or 32GB?
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That's weird but like I said those are the main directories where app data resides on /sdcard. Which GSIII do you have 16GB or 32GB?
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I have the 16gb version. I thought for sure I used "spacesniffer" last time to view the files on my sd card, which gave me a visual on whats taking up space. But I just cannot pinpoint it this time since no program ive downloaded views the internal sd card
Your best bet may be to copy over all your important files to a pc, nandroid to your external sd, then Wipe data or Factory reset in TWRP (the one that warns that it will format /sdcard. With those folders on your pc, you should be able to see their files sizes then do the math once it's back onto your phone. Maybe even do a screenshot of all the /sdcard folders first then do the above steps. You may be able to see which folder that is missing is the culprit once you put the folders back onto your phone.
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I am amazed at how little free space I have remaining on my 32GB N5. It shows 26.8GB total space, and I realize some is used for overhead.
Running stock rom and really not that many additional apps, and no pictures, movies, or music on the phone, I am at around 8GB free space remaining.
The phone’s storage tab reports:
Total Space: 26.08 GB
Available: 8.00 GB
Apps: 1.69 GB
Pictures & Videos: 1.19MB
Audio: 304KB
Downloads: 1.8MB
Cached Data: 44.09MB
Misc: 2.96GB
When I look in Misc, 2.43GB of the 2.96 is TWRP nandroid backups, 538MB is TI Backups, the rest is insignificant. Adding up all of what is shows as used totals about 3GB. Add the 8GB available, you have 11GB. So what happened to the other 15GB?
I have installed a utility to help me analyze space usage, and it shows the biggest space user is TWRP, with 2.4GB in backups. Those are important to have and I don’t begrudge the space, but man, this is supposed to be a 32GB phone.
One problem with disk space analyzers is that they tend to look for large files, but you can have 10,000 small files that will occupy more total space than a few large ones.
Those of you who are running relatively stock, how much free storage space do you have on your 32GB Nexus 5?
michaelnel said:
I am amazed at how little free space I have remaining on my 32GB N5. It shows 26.8GB total space, and I realize some is used for overhead.
Running stock rom and really not that many additional apps, and no pictures, movies, or music on the phone, I am at around 8GB free space remaining.
The phone’s storage tab reports:
Total Space: 26.08 GB
Available: 8.00 GB
Apps: 1.69 GB
Pictures & Videos: 1.19MB
Audio: 304KB
Downloads: 1.8MB
Cached Data: 44.09MB
Misc: 2.96GB
When I look in Misc, 2.43GB of the 2.96 is TWRP nandroid backups, 538MB is TI Backups, the rest is insignificant. Adding up all of what is shows as used totals about 3GB. Add the 8GB available, you have 11GB. So what happened to the other 15GB?
I have installed a utility to help me analyze space usage, and it shows the biggest space user is TWRP, with 2.4GB in backups. Those are important to have and I don’t begrudge the space, but man, this is supposed to be a 32GB phone.
One problem with disk space analyzers is that they tend to look for large files, but you can have 10,000 small files that will occupy more total space than a few large ones.
Those of you who are running relatively stock, how much free storage space do you have on your 32GB Nexus 5?
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No problems with storage here. I'm on stock with custom kernel, 1 nandroid backup. I have about 16.5GBs left, where about 8GB is my music and the other 2-3 are my apps and the nandroid backups.
Here's mine... 32GB rooted running stock rom..
Thanks. I thought this was abnormal. Not sure how to go about finding that 15GB.
When I went to 4.4.2 I loaded 4.4 fresh and the side loaded 4.4.2.. Not saying you should do that.. But it will reset all the space on the phone
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Thanks for the help, folks. I whacked it all the way back to stock, and installed the factory 4.4.2 image, then unlocked, installed twrp and supersu, and I am back in business with tons of free space. I have all my apps installed and now it shows over 23GB available.
I still have no idea where that 15GB went, but I figured whacking it was easier than troubleshooting it.
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Thanks for the help, folks. I whacked it all the way back to stock, and installed the factory 4.4.2 image, then unlocked, installed twrp and supersu, and I am back in business with tons of free space. I have all my apps installed and now it shows over 23GB available.
I still have no idea where that 15GB went, but I figured whacking it was easier than troubleshooting it.
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The "missing space" in the mass storage window is all the stuff on the /mnt/shell/emulated/ folder, outside of the /0/ (sdcard) directory.
For example, Nandroid Backups are stored there normally (at least CWM stores them on /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/ so they don't get wiped with the data on /0/). If you got your backups inside the /0/ folder you're in danger...
Check with the "diskUsage" app, on the root section, "mnt/shell/emulated" and you'll see what do you have there using your space (/obb/ is a symlink to /0/Android/obb/ and isn't using any space there really),
RusherDude said:
The "missing space" in the mass storage window is all the stuff on the /mnt/shell/emulated/ folder, outside of the /0/ (sdcard) directory.
For example, Nandroid Backups are stored there normally (at least CWM stores them on /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/ so they don't get wiped with the data on /0/). If you got your backups inside the /0/ folder you're in danger...
Check with the "diskUsage" app, on the root section, "mnt/shell/emulated" and you'll see what do you have there using your space (/obb/ is a symlink to /0/Android/obb/ and isn't using any space there really),
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Thanks much. That diskUsage app is very cool, much better than the one I paid for.
nandroid backup create a new file each time you back up, so if you back up alot, you will found that the back up size is huge, just delete some old dated back up and keep the lastest one is ok
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For example, Nandroid Backups are stored there normally (at least CWM stores them on /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/ so they don't get wiped with the data on /0/). If you got your backups inside the /0/ folder you're in danger...
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Where as this is the common lost space issue, its not so they don't get wiped. Its just easier to leave them there than detect if you're on a /0 device and dynamically set it. Twrp and philz do though.
Custom recoveries don't wipe /0 anyway - they run rm -Rf with an exclusion on 0.
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Where as this is the common lost space issue, its not so they don't get wiped. Its just easier to leave them there than detect if you're on a /0 device and dynamically set it. Twrp and philz do though.
Custom recoveries don't wipe /0 anyway - they run rm -Rf with an exclusion on 0.
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Are you saying that CWM and so started saving backups out of "/sdcard" (now /0/), and now when you wipe on them they wipe everything (including their backups that are outside of /0/) but /0/?
It has no sense. They'd have failed big time if so...
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Are you saying that CWM and so started saving backups out of "/sdcard" (now /0/), and now when you wipe on them they wipe everything (including their backups that are outside of /0/) but /0/?
It has no sense. They'd have failed big time if so...
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No.
I'm saying in the CWM source code for FUSE devices, /sdcard is mounted to /data/media - which was fine until android 4.2 which brought multi-user support. So even though other recoveries have moved with the times and updated their mount point to be /data/media/0, CWM simply didn't bother changing. It's not because they're "protecting from wipe" (in fact CWM doesn't wipe /sdcard anyway, only stock recovery does that), it's just they never updated it. That's why the backups are "outside" of /sdcard. No other reason.
Having backups outside of /sdcard has it's downfalls too. You cannot easily copy data from /sdcard to computer. Or copy a backup back to the device that can be restored.
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No.
I'm saying in the CWM source code for FUSE devices, /sdcard is mounted to /data/media - which was fine until android 4.2 which brought multi-user support. So even though other recoveries have moved with the times and updated their mount point to be /data/media/0, CWM simply didn't bother changing. It's not because they're "protecting from wipe" (in fact CWM doesn't wipe /sdcard anyway, only stock recovery does that), it's just they never updated it. That's why the backups are "outside" of /sdcard. No other reason.
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Then okay, they didn't even bother to update, but as a result, the backups folder is outside the /0/ media mount point, and so, any application that wipes the real /sdcard mount point (/0) like the stock recovery as you say, won't wipe them.
Thanks for the explanation tho. I don't understand why they didn't even move a finger, but as a result the backups are more protected if you keep changing stuff and you like cleaning /sdcard (real /0 ) without touching the outside /mnt/shell/emulated folder (which contains vital data like said backups or the copy of the EFS folder usually).
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Having backups outside of /sdcard has it's downfalls too. You cannot easily copy data from /sdcard to computer. Or copy a backup back to the device that can be restored.
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You can recover/push them easilly with adb tho.
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Then okay, they didn't even bother to update, but as a result, the backups folder is outside the /0/ media mount point, and so, any application that wipes the real /sdcard mount point (/0) like the stock recovery as you say, won't wipe them.
Thanks for the explanation tho. I don't understand why they didn't even move a finger, but as a result the backups are more protected if you keep changing stuff and you like cleaning /sdcard (real /0 ) without touching the outside /mnt/shell/emulated folder (which contains vital data like said backups or the copy of the EFS folder usually).
You can recover/push them easilly with adb tho.
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adb just isn't as convenient. But yes they are more protected but not by design. But also it has a problem in that your storage menu doesn't show true breakdown of space being used.
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adb just isn't as convenient. But yes they are more protected but not by design. But also it has a problem in that your storage menu doesn't show true breakdown of space being used.
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Yeah.. but that drawback is minor. I would opt for a simple solution: Some root variation of the used space. Either:
a) A mod that makes the storage option to include all the stuff on /data/media/ including everything outside /0 .
b) Using another program that shows the real usage.
I don't really think that nandroid backups are "user data" per se, since this is as vital as the system itself for the user. Its logical to have it protected somehow :fingers-crossed:.
Its protected by the user not being an idiot. If they are an idiot, losing their backup is karma
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