[Q] internal SD card file viewer? DIscrepancies b/w programs - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Hi all,
I am trying to figure out whats taking all the space on my internal sd card. I switched to twrp recovery and deleted all clockworkmod related things, but it still says theres only 1 gb of free space left. I know for sure I could not possibly have used that much space. I store no music, very little photos.
I have tried using pc programs to visualize the space usage but none of them have been able to read the sd card, only the drives on the computer (spacesniffer for example).
Multiple apps installed (SDcard manager, Slim file manager) state i have 1 gb free space left, while another app (Storage Analyser) says I have 9gb free space.
Anyone have a program that will allow me to see whats taking up my space?
Thank you very much!

How many CWM backups did you have? When using CWM, after deleting your CWM backups did also you select the option to free up the space? How many TWRP backups do you now have?
Do you have any games installed? Have you checked file sizes or tried deleting leftover files under /sdcard/android? A lot of app data resides in the following three file paths:
/sdcard/android
/sdcard/data
/sdcard/Download

SlimSnoopOS said:
How many CWM backups did you have? When using CWM, after deleting your CWM backups did also you select the option to free up the space? How many TWRP backups do you now have?
Do you have any games installed? Have you checked file sizes or tried deleting leftover files under /sdcard/android? A lot of app data resides in the following three file paths:
/sdcard/android
/sdcard/data
/sdcard/Download
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I had a few cwm backups. When using the "free up space" option in cwm about a week ago, it was such a small amount it said it would free up. I only have 1 twrp backup right now. I deleted all the CWM blob files and the file folder.
I'll take a look at the three file paths and come back. Thanks for your help
EDIT: nothing in /sdcard/data, sdcard/download is minimal, and sdcard/android is fairly minimal too

amotamatapia said:
I had a few cwm backups. When using the "free up space" option in cwm about a week ago, it was such a small amount it said it would free up. I only have 1 twrp backup right now. I deleted all the CWM blob files and the file folder.
I'll take a look at the three file paths and come back. Thanks for your help
EDIT: nothing in /sdcard/data, sdcard/download is minimal, and sdcard/android is fairly minimal too
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No problem. Roughly 5 GB of data are set aside for the system, so as a reference:
-the 16 Gb GSIII would have at most 11.5 GB of free data
-the 32 GB GSIII would have at most 27.5 GB of free data

SlimSnoopOS said:
No problem. Roughly 5 GB of data are set aside for the system, so as a reference:
-the 16 Gb GSIII would have at most 11.5 GB of free data
-the 32 GB GSIII would have at most 27.5 GB of free data
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Yeah, the weird thing though is that about a month ago i ran into the same issue of running out of space. and found that the CWM blob files were taking up about 5gb. And i had thought this was the same issue again, so I flashed TWRP and deleted the CWM files, but they arent the ones taking up the space this time

That's weird but like I said those are the main directories where app data resides on /sdcard. Which GSIII do you have 16GB or 32GB?

SlimSnoopOS said:
That's weird but like I said those are the main directories where app data resides on /sdcard. Which GSIII do you have 16GB or 32GB?
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I have the 16gb version. I thought for sure I used "spacesniffer" last time to view the files on my sd card, which gave me a visual on whats taking up space. But I just cannot pinpoint it this time since no program ive downloaded views the internal sd card

Your best bet may be to copy over all your important files to a pc, nandroid to your external sd, then Wipe data or Factory reset in TWRP (the one that warns that it will format /sdcard. With those folders on your pc, you should be able to see their files sizes then do the math once it's back onto your phone. Maybe even do a screenshot of all the /sdcard folders first then do the above steps. You may be able to see which folder that is missing is the culprit once you put the folders back onto your phone.
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Strange Internal Storage Problem

Please take a look at the attached screen shot where it shows that the information I have on my phone only takes up about half of the internal storage, yet I only have 511MB available. Can someone please help me find out where my internal storage went?
I am running CyanogenMod 10 on my SG3. Before this I ran all of the Experimental M builds and before that I ran several different nightlies.
Update:
I can't tell if my screenshot is working. I will type out what I see when I go to settings, storage:
Internal Storage:
Total Space
12.05GB
- Apps 3.03GB
- Pictures, videos 635MB
- Audio 22KB
- Downloads 97.64MB
- Available 510MB
Thre is also a graph of which more than half is dark gray representing Available.
Do you have a lot of backups? My backups don't show up in that chart either, but I've got 2.5 GB worth. Use something like storage analyzer from the play store.
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kintwofan said:
Do you have a lot of backups? My backups don't show up in that chart either, but I've got 2.5 GB worth. Use something like storage analyzer from the play store.
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Storage Analyser was great and showed me that it was my backups. How can they be 5GB? Anyway, thanks.
erikcave said:
Storage Analyser was great and showed me that it was my backups. How can they be 5GB? Anyway, thanks.
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They backup your ROM, apps, and all data. Make sure you delete them through recovery.
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Similar issue
kintwofan said:
They backup your ROM, apps, and all data. Make sure you delete them through recovery.
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Accidentally saved some CWM backups to internal SD. Deleted them through CWM, but still shows 4.4GB in CWM folder. Also have several weird folders, USBDriveA-F, dated the same as CWM backups. Running Jelly Beans build 6. noob, so any help is very much appreciated.
Shouldn't your Total Space list 16 GB though?
I have the 32 GB model, and I just checked mine, and it says I have exactly 32 GB of Total Space.
pdykstra said:
Shouldn't your Total Space list 16 GB though?
I have the 32 GB model, and I just checked mine, and it says I have exactly 32 GB of Total Space.
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I have the 16 GB model and I get 12.05 top work with. The system takes there other 4. I'm kind of jealous that your system doesn't take from your already bigger drive.
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DutchDuke said:
Accidentally saved some CWM backups to internal SD. Deleted them through CWM, but still shows 4.4GB in CWM folder. Also have several weird folders, USBDriveA-F, dated the same as CWM backups. Running Jelly Beans build 6. noob, so any help is very much appreciated.
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Go back into cwm and clear unused backup data in the backup menu, should clear up a little room. They do take up a lot of space though, they will take roughly 1.2 gb per backup. Also, i have those folders too. Not sure why, but they don't take y space, do they yours?
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kintwofan said:
I have the 16 GB model and I get 12.05 top work with. The system takes there other 4. I'm kind of jealous that your system doesn't take from your already bigger drive.
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That perfect sense, and actually that is what I would expect. I was surprised when I saw mine reading "32.00 GB" Total Space. I thought it was going to read 27 or 28 GB or something like that.
Attached a screenshot. Maybe my phone is just including the system partition files in the Miscellaneous category or something?
I tried deleting backups from CWM, but the blobs folder was still 4GB. Is there a way to delete blobs folder contents through CWM? After flashing TOB 4.5, knew I wasn't going back so I deleted the contents of the blobs folder from file manager :good: My usbdrive folders are empty too, just wondering if that was normal.

[Q] After rooting and installing custom firmware, hardly internal memory on P5110

Hey there,
I finally got the courage to root my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (P5110).
All went well. Put Odin3-v1.85_3 on it and shakatu_recovery-clockwork-unofficial-6.0.3.1-p5110.
After rooting i installed (as decribed on the webpage) a custom firwmare: cm-10.1-20130409-NIGHTLY-p5110
Everything works smooth and easy and fast (!), way faster than the stock firmware on it.
BUT: what happened to my internal memory? I only have a few apps installed (should be around 3 Gb), the same apps when i had stock firmware, but when i tried to install a game, it surprised my i had hardly any internal memory left!!!
When i go into settings and go to storage, the device calculates how much free space i got left. It shows me i have around 600 Mb left. Graphically it first shows it's almost full (grey bar), but later after indexing it shows the correct amount of free space. But the text underneath it remains around 600 Mb.
When i go into a file explorer and give it superuser rights, i can go to upper levels of the internal storage and there are loads of folders there. It seems it has something to do with the rooting or the stock firmware (backup or something)??
How can i clear more internal memory? Should I do some sort of wipe again in Clockwork Recovery??
Thanks for reply!
BTW: swapping internal and microsd card memory is not an option for me.
Below i wanted to put photos what my device shows, but i'm not allowed to do so since i'm a newbie....
robbieking said:
Hey there,
I finally got the courage to root my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (P5110).
All went well. Put Odin3-v1.85_3 on it and shakatu_recovery-clockwork-unofficial-6.0.3.1-p5110.
After rooting i installed (as decribed on the webpage) a custom firwmare: cm-10.1-20130409-NIGHTLY-p5110
Everything works smooth and easy and fast (!), way faster than the stock firmware on it.
BUT: what happened to my internal memory? I only have a few apps installed (should be around 3 Gb), the same apps when i had stock firmware, but when i tried to install a game, it surprised my i had hardly any internal memory left!!!
When i go into settings and go to storage, the device calculates how much free space i got left. It shows me i have around 600 Mb left. Graphically it first shows it's almost full (grey bar), but later after indexing it shows the correct amount of free space. But the text underneath it remains around 600 Mb.
When i go into a file explorer and give it superuser rights, i can go to upper levels of the internal storage and there are loads of folders there. It seems it has something to do with the rooting or the stock firmware (backup or something)??
How can i clear more internal memory? Should I do some sort of wipe again in Clockwork Recovery??
Thanks for reply!
BTW: swapping internal and microsd card memory is not an option for me.
Below i wanted to put photos what my device shows, but i'm not allowed to do so since i'm a newbie....
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No-one????
robbieking said:
No-one????
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i had the same problem!
but you will have to be on the stock rom, that is the original rom for your tab. Connect your tab on mass storage mode. Go to my computer, and format your tab from there. remember to make a backup of every thing. U will then have a full 12 gb free storage.
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Hi,
You probably still have a lot of the junk from the stock rom on the internal sd along with the data from your new rom. If you have the rom file you flashed on your external sd card. You can boot into recovery and format /sdcard to nuke almost everything. You'll have to stay in recovery after this is done and reflash the CM rom and install the apps you want from scratch to get the maximum amount of free space.
CodyF86 said:
Hi,
You probably still have a lot of the junk from the stock rom on the internal sd along with the data from your new rom. If you have the rom file you flashed on your external sd card. You can boot into recovery and format /sdcard to nuke almost everything. You'll have to stay in recovery after this is done and reflash the CM rom and install the apps you want from scratch to get the maximum amount of free space.
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So, if my custom rom (install)file is on my external SD card, i can format my (internal)sd card? Afterwards install the custom rom again (from external sd card) and i'm ready to go.
Is that correct?
Thanks, i think it worked. At least i have all my internal memory back!

[Q] Sure Glad I Bought A 32GB Nexus 5 Instead of 16GB

I am amazed at how little free space I have remaining on my 32GB N5. It shows 26.8GB total space, and I realize some is used for overhead.
Running stock rom and really not that many additional apps, and no pictures, movies, or music on the phone, I am at around 8GB free space remaining.
The phone’s storage tab reports:
Total Space: 26.08 GB
Available: 8.00 GB
Apps: 1.69 GB
Pictures & Videos: 1.19MB
Audio: 304KB
Downloads: 1.8MB
Cached Data: 44.09MB
Misc: 2.96GB
When I look in Misc, 2.43GB of the 2.96 is TWRP nandroid backups, 538MB is TI Backups, the rest is insignificant. Adding up all of what is shows as used totals about 3GB. Add the 8GB available, you have 11GB. So what happened to the other 15GB?
I have installed a utility to help me analyze space usage, and it shows the biggest space user is TWRP, with 2.4GB in backups. Those are important to have and I don’t begrudge the space, but man, this is supposed to be a 32GB phone.
One problem with disk space analyzers is that they tend to look for large files, but you can have 10,000 small files that will occupy more total space than a few large ones.
Those of you who are running relatively stock, how much free storage space do you have on your 32GB Nexus 5?
michaelnel said:
I am amazed at how little free space I have remaining on my 32GB N5. It shows 26.8GB total space, and I realize some is used for overhead.
Running stock rom and really not that many additional apps, and no pictures, movies, or music on the phone, I am at around 8GB free space remaining.
The phone’s storage tab reports:
Total Space: 26.08 GB
Available: 8.00 GB
Apps: 1.69 GB
Pictures & Videos: 1.19MB
Audio: 304KB
Downloads: 1.8MB
Cached Data: 44.09MB
Misc: 2.96GB
When I look in Misc, 2.43GB of the 2.96 is TWRP nandroid backups, 538MB is TI Backups, the rest is insignificant. Adding up all of what is shows as used totals about 3GB. Add the 8GB available, you have 11GB. So what happened to the other 15GB?
I have installed a utility to help me analyze space usage, and it shows the biggest space user is TWRP, with 2.4GB in backups. Those are important to have and I don’t begrudge the space, but man, this is supposed to be a 32GB phone.
One problem with disk space analyzers is that they tend to look for large files, but you can have 10,000 small files that will occupy more total space than a few large ones.
Those of you who are running relatively stock, how much free storage space do you have on your 32GB Nexus 5?
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No problems with storage here. I'm on stock with custom kernel, 1 nandroid backup. I have about 16.5GBs left, where about 8GB is my music and the other 2-3 are my apps and the nandroid backups.
Here's mine... 32GB rooted running stock rom..
Thanks. I thought this was abnormal. Not sure how to go about finding that 15GB.
When I went to 4.4.2 I loaded 4.4 fresh and the side loaded 4.4.2.. Not saying you should do that.. But it will reset all the space on the phone
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Thanks for the help, folks. I whacked it all the way back to stock, and installed the factory 4.4.2 image, then unlocked, installed twrp and supersu, and I am back in business with tons of free space. I have all my apps installed and now it shows over 23GB available.
I still have no idea where that 15GB went, but I figured whacking it was easier than troubleshooting it.
michaelnel said:
Thanks for the help, folks. I whacked it all the way back to stock, and installed the factory 4.4.2 image, then unlocked, installed twrp and supersu, and I am back in business with tons of free space. I have all my apps installed and now it shows over 23GB available.
I still have no idea where that 15GB went, but I figured whacking it was easier than troubleshooting it.
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The "missing space" in the mass storage window is all the stuff on the /mnt/shell/emulated/ folder, outside of the /0/ (sdcard) directory.
For example, Nandroid Backups are stored there normally (at least CWM stores them on /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/ so they don't get wiped with the data on /0/). If you got your backups inside the /0/ folder you're in danger...
Check with the "diskUsage" app, on the root section, "mnt/shell/emulated" and you'll see what do you have there using your space (/obb/ is a symlink to /0/Android/obb/ and isn't using any space there really),
RusherDude said:
The "missing space" in the mass storage window is all the stuff on the /mnt/shell/emulated/ folder, outside of the /0/ (sdcard) directory.
For example, Nandroid Backups are stored there normally (at least CWM stores them on /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/ so they don't get wiped with the data on /0/). If you got your backups inside the /0/ folder you're in danger...
Check with the "diskUsage" app, on the root section, "mnt/shell/emulated" and you'll see what do you have there using your space (/obb/ is a symlink to /0/Android/obb/ and isn't using any space there really),
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Thanks much. That diskUsage app is very cool, much better than the one I paid for.
nandroid backup create a new file each time you back up, so if you back up alot, you will found that the back up size is huge, just delete some old dated back up and keep the lastest one is ok
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RusherDude said:
For example, Nandroid Backups are stored there normally (at least CWM stores them on /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/ so they don't get wiped with the data on /0/). If you got your backups inside the /0/ folder you're in danger...
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Where as this is the common lost space issue, its not so they don't get wiped. Its just easier to leave them there than detect if you're on a /0 device and dynamically set it. Twrp and philz do though.
Custom recoveries don't wipe /0 anyway - they run rm -Rf with an exclusion on 0.
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rootSU said:
Where as this is the common lost space issue, its not so they don't get wiped. Its just easier to leave them there than detect if you're on a /0 device and dynamically set it. Twrp and philz do though.
Custom recoveries don't wipe /0 anyway - they run rm -Rf with an exclusion on 0.
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Are you saying that CWM and so started saving backups out of "/sdcard" (now /0/), and now when you wipe on them they wipe everything (including their backups that are outside of /0/) but /0/?
It has no sense. They'd have failed big time if so...
RusherDude said:
Are you saying that CWM and so started saving backups out of "/sdcard" (now /0/), and now when you wipe on them they wipe everything (including their backups that are outside of /0/) but /0/?
It has no sense. They'd have failed big time if so...
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No.
I'm saying in the CWM source code for FUSE devices, /sdcard is mounted to /data/media - which was fine until android 4.2 which brought multi-user support. So even though other recoveries have moved with the times and updated their mount point to be /data/media/0, CWM simply didn't bother changing. It's not because they're "protecting from wipe" (in fact CWM doesn't wipe /sdcard anyway, only stock recovery does that), it's just they never updated it. That's why the backups are "outside" of /sdcard. No other reason.
Having backups outside of /sdcard has it's downfalls too. You cannot easily copy data from /sdcard to computer. Or copy a backup back to the device that can be restored.
rootSU said:
No.
I'm saying in the CWM source code for FUSE devices, /sdcard is mounted to /data/media - which was fine until android 4.2 which brought multi-user support. So even though other recoveries have moved with the times and updated their mount point to be /data/media/0, CWM simply didn't bother changing. It's not because they're "protecting from wipe" (in fact CWM doesn't wipe /sdcard anyway, only stock recovery does that), it's just they never updated it. That's why the backups are "outside" of /sdcard. No other reason.
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Then okay, they didn't even bother to update, but as a result, the backups folder is outside the /0/ media mount point, and so, any application that wipes the real /sdcard mount point (/0) like the stock recovery as you say, won't wipe them.
Thanks for the explanation tho. I don't understand why they didn't even move a finger, but as a result the backups are more protected if you keep changing stuff and you like cleaning /sdcard (real /0 ) without touching the outside /mnt/shell/emulated folder (which contains vital data like said backups or the copy of the EFS folder usually).
rootSU said:
Having backups outside of /sdcard has it's downfalls too. You cannot easily copy data from /sdcard to computer. Or copy a backup back to the device that can be restored.
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You can recover/push them easilly with adb tho.
RusherDude said:
Then okay, they didn't even bother to update, but as a result, the backups folder is outside the /0/ media mount point, and so, any application that wipes the real /sdcard mount point (/0) like the stock recovery as you say, won't wipe them.
Thanks for the explanation tho. I don't understand why they didn't even move a finger, but as a result the backups are more protected if you keep changing stuff and you like cleaning /sdcard (real /0 ) without touching the outside /mnt/shell/emulated folder (which contains vital data like said backups or the copy of the EFS folder usually).
You can recover/push them easilly with adb tho.
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adb just isn't as convenient. But yes they are more protected but not by design. But also it has a problem in that your storage menu doesn't show true breakdown of space being used.
rootSU said:
adb just isn't as convenient. But yes they are more protected but not by design. But also it has a problem in that your storage menu doesn't show true breakdown of space being used.
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Yeah.. but that drawback is minor. I would opt for a simple solution: Some root variation of the used space. Either:
a) A mod that makes the storage option to include all the stuff on /data/media/ including everything outside /0 .
b) Using another program that shows the real usage.
I don't really think that nandroid backups are "user data" per se, since this is as vital as the system itself for the user. Its logical to have it protected somehow :fingers-crossed:.
Its protected by the user not being an idiot. If they are an idiot, losing their backup is karma
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Un-Partition via TWRP

I just finished installing the latest ROM (YOG4PAS1N0) from here:
[ROM][YOG4PAS1N0] Cyanogen OS 12.1 [Rooted][TWRP flashable][NEW OTA]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-cyanogen-os-12-1-t3186593/page10
and it works amazing!!! No issues so far...while I was doing it I decided to use TWRP 2.8.6.0 to do a back up. I know that the following is a very "old school" way of backing my data but what I used to do is just save all the files in the exact same way my OPO is shown via the windows file system, and so I used to cut and copy .....place in a folder and done.... I have every single picture I have EVER taken since I owned a camera phone in 2007 but thats besides the point,,,I backup up my data via TWRP and I noticed that it created a 10GB partition. I am ok with it cause I keep a pretty clean phone...I have 10 apps at most and some pictures and videos.
I was wondering in the interest of recuperating that 10GB is there a way to unpartition it? my back up is 2.67 GB large and as you guessed it, I saved it on my PC....so I could do with out it on my phone. BY the way I didn't do a system or data wipe when I installed the ROM...flash and dalvik and cache wipe....I figured if I screwed up, I could do a FULL FORMAT and copy paste the files I wanted. But the update worked flawlessly ..except for the 10GB "missing"....
This is not an emergency, I can live without the 10GB I was just curious.........I have 54GB out of which I am only using 9GB...plenty left
Thanks for any help and for taking the time and reading this...
I did search for the answer but most users have other partition issues such as not loading or not finding it....I also google TWRP partitions and I got a lot of "how to use it" stuff...but nothing on how to "un partition"
seco007 said:
I just finished installing the latest ROM (YOG4PAS1N0) from here:
[ROM][YOG4PAS1N0] Cyanogen OS 12.1 [Rooted][TWRP flashable][NEW OTA]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-cyanogen-os-12-1-t3186593/page10
and it works amazing!!! No issues so far...while I was doing it I decided to use TWRP 2.8.6.0 to do a back up. I know that the following is a very "old school" way of backing my data but what I used to do is just save all the files in the exact same way my OPO is shown via the windows file system, and so I used to cut and copy .....place in a folder and done.... I have every single picture I have EVER taken since I owned a camera phone in 2007 but thats besides the point,,,I backup up my data via TWRP and I noticed that it created a 10GB partition. I am ok with it cause I keep a pretty clean phone...I have 10 apps at most and some pictures and videos.
I was wondering in the interest of recuperating that 10GB is there a way to unpartition it? my back up is 2.67 GB large and as you guessed it, I saved it on my PC....so I could do with out it on my phone. BY the way I didn't do a system or data wipe when I installed the ROM...flash and dalvik and cache wipe....I figured if I screwed up, I could do a FULL FORMAT and copy paste the files I wanted. But the update worked flawlessly ..except for the 10GB "missing"....
This is not an emergency, I can live without the 10GB I was just curious.........I have 54GB out of which I am only using 9GB...plenty left
Thanks for any help and for taking the time and reading this...
I did search for the answer but most users have other partition issues such as not loading or not finding it....I also google TWRP partitions and I got a lot of "how to use it" stuff...but nothing on how to "un partition"
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What do you mean when you say it created a 10gb partition? TWRP doesn't create a partition when it makes a backup so I'm confused as to what you mean by that.
seco007 said:
I just finished installing the latest ROM (YOG4PAS1N0) from here:
[ROM][YOG4PAS1N0] Cyanogen OS 12.1 [Rooted][TWRP flashable][NEW OTA]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-cyanogen-os-12-1-t3186593/page10
and it works amazing!!! No issues so far...while I was doing it I decided to use TWRP 2.8.6.0 to do a back up. I know that the following is a very "old school" way of backing my data but what I used to do is just save all the files in the exact same way my OPO is shown via the windows file system, and so I used to cut and copy .....place in a folder and done.... I have every single picture I have EVER taken since I owned a camera phone in 2007 but thats besides the point,,,I backup up my data via TWRP and I noticed that it created a 10GB partition. I am ok with it cause I keep a pretty clean phone...I have 10 apps at most and some pictures and videos.
I was wondering in the interest of recuperating that 10GB is there a way to unpartition it? my back up is 2.67 GB large and as you guessed it, I saved it on my PC....so I could do with out it on my phone. BY the way I didn't do a system or data wipe when I installed the ROM...flash and dalvik and cache wipe....I figured if I screwed up, I could do a FULL FORMAT and copy paste the files I wanted. But the update worked flawlessly ..except for the 10GB "missing"....
This is not an emergency, I can live without the 10GB I was just curious.........I have 54GB out of which I am only using 9GB...plenty left
Thanks for any help and for taking the time and reading this...
I did search for the answer but most users have other partition issues such as not loading or not finding it....I also google TWRP partitions and I got a lot of "how to use it" stuff...but nothing on how to "un partition"
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There is no 10GB partition. When a device says that there is 64 GB of storage, a bit of it is lost in formatting. It does not mean that when you plug in your phone you will get 64GB of storage. Additionally, there are several partitions, including data and system that are not visible to the user without root (or in recovery). These partitions also take up space on your phone (adding up to around 10GB of lost space), and are not visible when you plug in your phone. This is why your phone only shows 54 out of 64GB in the storage menu in settings, mine does as well. If you did have a 10GB partition on your phone, your phone would show 44GB when plugged in. I believe you can make the system partitions smaller, but its not recommended. This is simply off my memory so if I misunderstood the question or said anything wrong please be welcome to correct me.
f41lbl0g said:
There is no 10GB partition. When a device says that there is 64 GB of storage, a bit of it is lost in formatting. It does not mean that when you plug in your phone you will get 64GB of storage. Additionally, there are several partitions, including data and system that are not visible to the user without root (or in recovery). These partitions also take up space on your phone (adding up to around 10GB of lost space), and are not visible when you plug in your phone. This is why your phone only shows 54 out of 64GB in the storage menu in settings, mine does as well. If you did have a 10GB partition on your phone, your phone would show 44GB when plugged in. I believe you can make the system partitions smaller, but its not recommended. This is simply off my memory so if I misunderstood the question or said anything wrong please be welcome to correct me.
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I figured it was a 10GB partition because I was 10GB short (64GB out of the box vs 54GB) what I have, even though I now that OS and apps take up space. So what is the actual partition size that is created when TWRP creates a back up? The size of said back up? ....my mistake...
your explanation cleared it up. If I remove the back up from my phone will I recover that HDD space? or is it already saved for future back ups?
seco007 said:
I figured it was a 10GB partition because I was 10GB short (64GB out of the box vs 54GB) what I have, even though I now that OS and apps take up space. So what is the actual partition size that is created when TWRP creates a back up? The size of said back up? ....my mistake...
your explanation cleared it up. If I remove the back up from my phone will I recover that HDD space? or is it already saved for future back ups?
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Your backups are created on the visible portion of the data partition, in a folder called TWRP. No partition is created during a backup. You will not gain more than the available space on your phone by deleting the backup.
seco007 said:
I figured it was a 10GB partition because I was 10GB short (64GB out of the box vs 54GB) what I have, even though I now that OS and apps take up space. So what is the actual partition size that is created when TWRP creates a back up? The size of said back up? ....my mistake...
your explanation cleared it up. If I remove the back up from my phone will I recover that HDD space? or is it already saved for future back ups?
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TWRP doesn't create a partition, it simply creates a folder in your internal storage to place your backups in. That folder will only ever be the size of your backup(s). The moment you delete/move a backup you have that space free again, they're just like any other file that consumes space on a drive (it only consumes space while it's actually there).
f41lbl0g said:
Your backups are created on the visible portion of the data partition, in a folder called TWRP. No partition is created during a backup. You will not gain more than the available space on your phone by deleting the backup.
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ok So it works like any other file / folder...erase and you have the HDD space again....Thanks for clearing that up

System data using way too much storage

When I bought this phone (LG Optimus L90 D410 Dual) 2 years ago, when I checked the storage, system was using only 3GB, which left me with 5GB (it has a total of 8GB). But now, when I check how much system storage is using, it is using 5GB, leaving me with only 3GB of storage. How can I make my system data as small as it was back when I bought it?
Hyoretsu said:
When I bought this phone (LG Optimus L90 D410 Dual) 2 years ago, when I checked the storage, system was using only 3GB32GB, which left me with 5GB (it has a total of 8GB). But now, when I check how much system storage is using, it is using 5GB, leaving me with only 3GB of storage. How can I make my system data as small as it was back when I bought it?
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clear junk data using clean master app or use sd maid pro for better cleaning..... and if you want your storage like before as was your phone new.. you shall carry less apps as less you can... and move apps to sd card for more system storage.....
The thing is, I already use Clean Master (frequently), the apps I install they all use the 3GB of storage I have and I can't move apps to sd card cuz' I'm on 6.0.1 (Cyanogenmod 13)
EDIT: System data was using 5GB before I installed CM 13
Hyoretsu said:
The thing is, I already use Clean Master (frequently), the apps I install they all use the 3GB of storage I have and I can't move apps to sd card cuz' I'm on 6.0.1 (Cyanogenmod 13)
EDIT: System data was using 5GB before I installed CM 13
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Try debloating your current android installation by removing system apps that you would not use. This can be accomplished using applications such as <Mod snip of warez reference > or system app remover in Google Play.
All the bloatware I have with CM 13 is some apps that only use KB of storage and Gapps (Nano), which they all sums up 293.6MB
Hyoretsu said:
All the bloatware I have with CM 13 is some apps that only use KB of storage and Gapps (Nano), which they all sums up 293.6MB
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The problem is that the disk is partitioned in such a way that leaves little space for apps.
What you should do:
1. Shrink /system partition where it has enough memory to do all it's stuff, but doesn't take up too much space. You said 3GB worked fine in the past and it probably will now.
2. Allocate the unused space to the /data partition
Warning: If repartitioning goes wrong it will most likely result in a hard brick. Know what you're doing.
Warning 2: Many people say you should never repatition your phone. You will no longer be able to instal updates and the space you take away from the system may be critical storage used for device recovery or some kind of backup or emergency mode. Try app2sd or (if you're hardcore into moving stuff) link2sd.
1st: I thought of resizing the system partition, so I googled it and couldn't find anything, so how do I resize a partition on my phone?
2nd: If I make a backup of my entire phone through TWRP in case anything goes wrong, if I hard brick my device could I just restore the backup?
3rd: I already tried App2SD and Link2SD, but when i partitioned my SD Card, it gave an error. (Gonna move the things inside the SD Card to my PC and try to partition it, so I can specify the error)
if you have upgraded Android it could be that the newer versions are larger than the old one due to more features?
It grew up to 5GB while I was still on stock 5.0.2
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Hyoretsu said:
It grew up to 5GB while I was still on stock 5.0.2
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Can you download X-Plore, click on the 'Disk Map' on the right side bar and screenshot the results?
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Can you download X-Plore, click on the 'Disk Map' on the right side bar and screenshot the results?
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Will do that right away
EDIT: Here it is
Hyoretsu said:
Will do that right away
EDIT: Here it is
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So it looks like your system is taking up less than a GB. Have you used Root Browser to check what is in that MNT folder? The reason I asked is because I checked my Nexus 6 and my LG G Pad 7.0 and I don't see the MNT folder anywhere. I am running Android 5.0.1 on both devices. Below are screenshots of both of my devices
There are 2 links to my home directory (on "asec, expand, media_rw, obb, sdcard, secure and user" folders), and a runtime folder, which has 3 folders(default, read and write), with the 3 of them being a link to the /storage folder
Hyoretsu said:
There are 2 links to my home directory (on "asec, expand, media_rw, obb, sdcard, secure and user" folders), and a runtime folder, which has 3 folders(default, read and write), with the 3 of them being a link to the /storage folder
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Does your phone support external SD card or is it all internal?
It supports external SD, but I "can't" move anything to it cuz I'm on 6.0.1, so I would have to transform it into Internal Storage and I could transform it into Mixed Storage, but the problem is that whenever my SD Card is Internal or Mixed Storage, it randomly pops out, forcing me to turn off my phone, re-insert my SD card and boot it again. I'm not with it cuz' currently I'm putting some pdf files to it on my PC
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It supports external SD, but I "can't" move anything to it cuz I'm on 6.0.1, so I would have to transform it into Internal Storage and I could transform it into Mixed Storage, but the problem is that whenever my SD Card is Internal or Mixed Storage, it randomly pops out, forcing me to turn off my phone, re-insert my SD card and boot it again. I'm not with it cuz' currently I'm putting some pdf files to it on my PC
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Have you tried using Apps2SD? Not sure if it works on 6.0 but it works on 5.0 and below.
I cannot get it to work cuz' when I partition my sd card and try to mount script, it showed up the error "file not found". When I checked the directory it specified, I realized that I didn't have the 179:66 file, the one I have is public:179_66. The temporary solution (cuz' the file got deleted when i rebooted my phone) was create a hard link from public:179_66 to 179:66, which resulted on the error "Invalid Argument" (Sorry if something's written worng, English is not my native language)
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I cannot get it to work cuz' when I partition my sd card and try to mount script, it showed up the error "file not found". When I checked the directory it specified, I realized that I didn't have the 179:66 file, the one I have is public:179_66. The temporary solution (cuz' the file got deleted when i rebooted my phone) was create a hard link from public:179_66 to 179:66, which resulted on the error "Invalid Argument" (Sorry if something's written worng, English is not my native language)
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So back to the main issue, according to your X-Plore results, your system folder is only taking up 876mb. I would download a root file explorer such as Root Explorer and explore the various folders such as Data (2.99gb) and MNT (1.34gb) and see if you have some temp files you can get rid of. There are also apps such as CCleaner that will scan your device for temp/cache files you can safely remove to make more room.

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