Hello
I recently purchased a Ramos X10F on an impulse buy on a trip to the PP last month. I had been waiting longer than a year for an 8" 4:3 device that was not Apple with expandable memory and this one just made me succumb. Also I fell for the false data in marketing it as a cortex A9 and I thought a quad core A9 should be faster than my dual core A9 in the n7000. Actually it is a A5 or A7 (device details in cpuz mention some A7 blah).
The device has great potential to be an ipad mini killer as the hardware fit and finish is very good, the screen is IPS and it weighs only 360 grams. I can hold it in one had lying in bed without tiring myself. However performance is marred by the stock android 4.1.1. Intially I thought it was slow nand flash as when I enabled cpu stats, the nand-rw-flash process appeared to be the top process for a longish time, each time it stalled. However I later discovered, the device is very laggy when Wifi is on while actual WiFi throughput is very good - I get almost full speed 16mbs in the speedtest.net results. Unfortunately even with entropy seeder and a deadline or noop scheduler, the lagginess is only partially improved. Also the old linux/android decision of using input to randomize and seed the entropy is only good for desktops not servers or touchpads. I have to tap a few times to get a app screen to respond inexplicably and suddenly and it shows that the OS was waiting on input. The device is best for streaming as typically once the app is opened I never have a problem with lag a it is typically 30 mins of iewing before switching apps. Otherwise the poor performance means a task that should take normal time (like reading news in the morning for 15 mins) takes more than twice the time as I have to struggle with the slow app launches and screen loading mostly. But if Wifi is switched off and content is cached, everything is smooth and much better. Battery life is decent with display brightness set around or below 10% typically.
So my recommendation for a new buyer is - dont buy until a custom ROM is made available. Dont fall for the x10pro video on the utube yet. Real world performance is not the same. Once the smoothness of the 4.4.3 is acheived it will be a killer product.
I would like to upgrade the android from its 4.1.1 to a 4.4.x version. Also this version is vulnerable to heartbleed and the openssl bug that came after that in June 2014. The omnirom 4.4.3 on my n7000 is really smooth and I am hoping somebody will develop a custom rom for this device.
But I dont see a custom ROM or CWM for this anywhere. I installed a CWM recovery for another ATM7029 device (yarvik) and it boots, but I forgot about the display driver compatibility and I can no longer view the menu in recovery mode. Otherwise rooted it and running ok.
The specifications of the device are as follows:
OS: Android 4.1.1
CPU: Quad Core ATM7029
GPU: Vivante GC1000
RAM 1GB，DDR3 --> False. Real RAM is 686MB.
Storage 8GB
Screen: Capacitive Touchscreen, 1024*768 Full resolution Screen
Size: 7.85 inch
Resolution: 1024*768 Pixels
Flash: Support Flash 11.0 and HTML 5
Extend Card Support TF card up to 32GB extended
Camera Dual Camera Front 2.0M,Back 5.0M
Gravity Sensor Yes
Multi-Touch Yes, 5 points touch
Android Market Yes
Skype Yes
Email and Browser: Yes, built in
WIFI: Yes, 802.11 b/g/n
3G : support external 3G dongle
OTG Function: Support USB Mouse,Keyboard (2.4GHz)
Support:FAT,FAT32,NTFS
Earphone Interface 3.5mm
Soft:Support TXT,Adobe PDF,Microsoft Office(Word,Excel,PPT)
Video 1080P, AVI/MOV/MP4/RMVB/FLV/MKV…
Music MP3/WMA/WAV/APE/AAC/FLAC/OGG
Ebook UMD, TXT, PDF, HTML, RTF, FB2…
Battery: 4000mAh
What do I need to submit for a developer to build a custom rom for this device? Some kind of dump? ALso need a recovery manager with the right display driver. Either TWRP or CWM.
I hope a developer will volunteer.
Thanks
G0bble
old topic any answer to that ,cuz i have the same problem
Teclast X10 HD 3G Tablet: 10.1" 2560x1600 px Z3736F - 3G - 64GB - Android/Windows 8.1
I just received my X10HD 3G today, this tablet needs its own thread rather than have discussion in the X98 Air 3G thread, It's the newest dual boot from Teclast, that features a 2560 x 1600 IPS screen, 64GB eMMC and a keyboard dock over the already brilliant X98 Air 3G. I'll update this thread with more info and fixes etc once it becomes available.
Full Hardware Specifications:
Brand Name: Teclast
Teclast Model: X10 HD 3G
Processor Model: Intel Bay Trail-T Z3736F
Processor Main Frequency: Quad Core, 64-bit, 2.16GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics GEN7
Memory Capacity: 2Gb DDR3L
Tablet Data Capacity: 64GB
Screen Size: 10.1"
Display resolution: 2560x1600
Screen Technology : IPS 10 Point touch Capactive Screen
Dimensions : 258x163x8.2mm
Camera (Front): 2MP
Second Camera (Back): 5MP
Net Weight: 558g
Network Communiction: Built-in 3G,Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port: 3G External,Earphone Jack,OTG,TF card,Mini HDMI, keyboard dock port
Supporting Language: English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Turkish ,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukr ainian,Greek,Hebrew
Other Feature: GPS, G Sensor,Phone Call
Operating System: Android 4.4.4 and Windows 8.1 Bing
Cell Capacity: 8000mAh
Official website:
http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/X10HD3Gdualos/
Reviews
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://articles.imp3.net/65701-99.html (translated from Chinese)
http://techtablets.com/teclast-x10hd-3g/review/ [English Review]
Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gvo9UtgUs (Unboxing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FufrrOXHfeM (Physical comparison to the X98 Air 3G)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUq7-kkiF1k (Android Hands on)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUX03YFYqi4 (Windows hands on video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7gGBnPtTY (WIndows 1080p MVK, 2K, 4K video playback test and Photoshop)
Know issues
Play Store is broken (Fixable now, see below).
Windows battery meter is reading only one of the two battery cells. Full discharge and recharge might fix this issue. It did for a while for me.
Android Development
Play Store fix
Video tutorial Play Store fix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7mHGOmOPTc
1. Make sure you have root. (Use the X98 Air 3G tool box)
2. Edit /system/build.prop to:
ro.product.device=picassowifi
ro.product.local.language=en
ro.product.locale.region=US
3. Reboot device
many thanks @Kohe & @CrimsonKnight13
Android files thanks to @BIAzone & @BigBoppa
All files on Mega: https://mega.co.nz/#F!7lRg1IYI!UlephUbteHxCCNsjFinABw
MEGA (Contains 1-1 files from Teclast):
https: //mega.co.nz/#F!6B12lLID!7V3OemkA-g2ugkRqrBtTKQ
Zippyshare (Repacked to 200MB and deleted chinese Symbols - nothing else changed):
Tools - http ://www31.zippyshare.com/v/55528202/file.html
Chinese PDF Guide - http ://www35.zippyshare.com/v/67569177/file.html
X10HD 3G (M6K6) Android 4.4.4 V1.06
Part 1 http: //www51.zippyshare.com/v/92330356/file.html
Part 2 http: //www26.zippyshare.com/v/70455271/file.html
Part 3 http: //www22.zippyshare.com/v/67721743/file.html
One file download: Android4.4.4-V1.06 X10HD
How to partition the X10HD 3G so Android takes up the whole drive: Thanks @Kohe
add -b 7045160 -s 29360078 -t data -u 80868086-8086-8086-8086-000000000008 -l data -T 0 -P 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0
to
add -b 7045160 -s $calc($lba_end-16384) -t data -u 80868086-8086-8086-8086-000000000008 -l data -T 0 -P 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0
You'll need to edit the partition.tbl before flashing with Intel MFG Tools.
Windows Development and drivers
Windows 8.1 Driver dump I made:
http://techtablets.com/download/tec...ios_and_utilities_/X10HD Win drivers dump.zip
https://mega.co.nz/#!Jc1nRQxS!m49bAtGvIhRVnnaGgn6BYj1f60qJkfEnpsnWrpO_Gc4
How to make it a Windows only install: Thanks @Kohe
I found settings for windows only in X10HD WINPE images.
Make installer USB sticks and edit WINPE/Scripts/Main.cmd
Change line 44:
diskpart /s %InstallPath%\wimpart_dual.txt
to
diskpart /s %InstallPath%\wimpart.txt
I've already tested it.
C drive has 49.1GB free of 53.2GB.
Reserved for further info
I have my hands on this unit now and the build quality is good, there are few creaks and noises around the other trim when the top and bottom halves meet. The screen is as bright as my X98 Air 3G's and the audio is the same volume and no doubt the exact same speakers as the Air 3G.
Here is a unboxing and quick hands on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gvo9UtgUs
Touch response is good and smooth, my unit has a Hynix eMMC which reads at around 150mb/s and writes at 50mb/s. Cameras are the correct way up in both Android and Windows 8.1. 60hz screen in Windows. The battery life on my unit seems to read incorrectly, as Windows only reports the capacity of one battery cell of the two. I will see if a full discharge and recharge will fix this issue.
Windows seems to take advantage of the 2560 x 1600 display more and looks sharper and the metro titles and scaled well. Scaling is set at 250% on stock, but looks good.
Android: Play store is BROKEN! Not good at all, I have tried looking for an OTA, I think there is one. But I cannot download it. Maybe others might have some luck? Try here: http://www.teclast.com/tools/pad/pad.php My ID code is M6K6. I see files for the Windows 8.1 image and Android files, but I can't download them!
Edit: 30 minutes of Real Racing 3 and no crashes! Looks like my Z3736F is a good one.
Hendrickson said:
Windows seems to take advantage of the 2560 x 1600 display more and looks sharper and the metro titles and scaled well. Scaling is set at 250% on stock, but looks good.
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Hi Hendrickson, thanks for your effort!
Can you make a video showing windows usage with 250% scaling?
Do you think lower resolution in x16hd model would be better for windows usage?
Thanks
At teclast download site are files named (chrome translate) as:
2015.01.07
X10HD 3G (M6K6) - Dual System (Android & Windows8.1) System-Installationfiles
Android4.4.4: V1.06 & Windows8.1: V0.3_20141215
I´m just downloading but very slow.
I have no webspace to upload it but if anyone got some, give me a pm with link so i will upload.
(Size is 5 GB)
Can you try unity benchmark and all the games usually freezing x98? Is it true that boot from USB isn't possible?
zooster said:
Can you try unity benchmark and all the games usually freezing x98? Is it true that boot from USB isn't possible?
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@Hendrickson said he played 30 minutes RR3 and it didnt freeze at all
Yes, more games tested would be more exhaustive.
Is there any performance drop in games? Can you check fps both in games and animations/transitions?
antony84 said:
Hi Hendrickson, thanks for your effort!
Can you make a video showing windows usage with 250% scaling?
Do you think lower resolution in x16hd model would be better for windows usage?
Thanks
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I have done just this, but my video is 1.8GB upload is taking forever. Windows 8.1 looks and runs real nice on the unit. The default scaling fix it perfect.
zooster said:
Can you try unity benchmark and all the games usually freezing x98? Is it true that boot from USB isn't possible?
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Sure once I can get play fixed.
zooster said:
Yes, more games tested would be more exhaustive.
Is there any performance drop in games? Can you check fps both in games and animations/transitions?
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Asphalt 8 runs surprising well, a few drops frames, I'll have a video of it in the Win 8 hands on video I'm uploading. I honestly expected it run be super laggy and choppy and 2560 x 1600.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
@Hendrickson said he played 30 minutes RR3 and it didnt freeze at all
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I'm not sure if 30 minutes is enough, but a few races of Asphalt and no crashing either. I will test it some more.
BigBoppa said:
At teclast download site are files named (chrome translate) as:
2015.01.07
X10HD 3G (M6K6) - Dual System (Android & Windows8.1) System-Installationsdateien
Android4.4.4: V1.06 & Windows8.1: V0.3_20141215
I´m just downloading but very slow.
I have no webspace to upload it but if anyone got some, give me a pm with link so i will upload if dl finished.
(Size is 5 GB)
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Thanks, if you could just grab the Android files for now so I can test if it fixes the play store or not. I have tried to download it again, but it times out and fails.
Hendrickson said:
Thanks, if you could just grab the Android files for now so I can test if it fixes the play store or not. I have tried to download it again, but it times out and fails.
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That fits in my dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Dual System - Upgrade Tool.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Manual.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...6)-Android4.4.4-V1.06- Systeminstallation.rar
X10HD 3G-Dual System (M6K6)-Windows8.1- Systeminstallation.rar is missing because of 4.5 GB size.
I also did a google-Translate of the chinese manual.pdf
Now it´s time to go to bed, in 5h night is over for me...
Hi
Specs in the first post are for the X98 (screen size and screen resolution)
BigBoppa said:
That fits in my dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Dual System - Upgrade Tool.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Manual.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...6)-Android4.4.4-V1.06- Systeminstallation.rar
X10HD 3G-Dual System (M6K6)-Windows8.1- Systeminstallation.rar is missing because of 4.5 GB size.
I also did a google-Translate of the chinese manual.pdf
Now it´s time to go to bed, in 5h night is over for me...
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Great, thank you. I will download the Android update now and I hope it fixes the Play Store.
ZeAuReLiEn said:
Hi
Specs in the first post are for the X98 (screen size and screen resolution)
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Sorry fixed that now, I posted that at 2am and was half asleep!
What's the price for the Teclast X10HD 3G tablet?
WIFI performances
Is there any way to have some informations about the WIFI performances of this tablet, for example when close to a 802.11n (or 802.11ac) WIFI access point ?
I've got a Chuwi V89 Atom chinese Windows tablet and despite its 802.11n compatibility I can only reach 72mbps and about 4-5MB/sec while transfering files, and I'm considering changing it for a more performant tablet
Annie Y said:
What's the price for the Teclast X10HD 3G tablet?
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Check these 2 sellers from AliExpress. There shall be occasional price-cuts/mobileDeals/sale.
Seller-1(Teclast Authorized)
Seller-2
Docking Station
And few others as listed in this post.
Annie Y said:
What's the price for the Teclast X10HD 3G tablet?
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POMP Mall $299
Pandawill $309
Tinydeal $319
Chinavasion $319
Aliexpress $339
Teclast X10HD 3G 2GB 64GB Tablet PC Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIskAN8jiSw
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Processor Main Frequency: Quad Core, 64-bit, 2.16GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics GEN7
Memory Capacity: 2Gb DDR3L
Tablet Data Capacity: 64GB
Screen Size: 10.1"
Display resolution: 2560x1600
Screen Technology : IPS 10 Point touch Capactive Screen
Dimensions : 258x163x8.2mm
Camera (Front): 2MP
Second Camera (Back): 5MP
Net Weight: 558g
Network Communiction: Built-in 3G,Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port: 3G External,Earphone Jack,OTG,TF card,Mini HDMI, keyboard dock port
Supporting Language: English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Turkish ,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukr ainian,Greek,Hebrew
Other Feature: GPS, G Sensor,Phone Call
Operating System: Android 4.4.4 and Windows 8.1 Bing
Cell Capacity: 8000mAh
Official website:
http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/X10HD3Gdualos/
Reviews
Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gvo9UtgUs (Unboxing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FufrrOXHfeM (Physical comparison to the X98 Air 3G)
Know issues
Play Store is broken. No OTA update to fix it as of yet.
Windows is reading only one of the two battery cells, so only half the battery life is reported in the battery meter.[/QUOTE]
This hidden feature will boost your Android gaming performance [/B
igntimes.com/boost-android-gaming-performance/
Great
Greate toool
It will not boost performance. It will make graphics better.
From the website:
"After you activate this function, your Android phone will render games at the highest possible quality."
It will activate anti aliasing, therefore consuming more power and resources, reducing performance in order to make it look better.
Nice setting, however usually when using higher quality settings it can also decrease performance on slower devices.
Isn't it danager to overclock the phone
The phone will get bad not better i don't recommend it