I'm in the market for an Android based head unit for my new SUV and have been digging through the web for a good week now including reading many many posts here. I've noticed Ca-Fi has released a new unit called the Dashlinq4 but information is scant on the web other than the manufacturer's specs:
ca-fi.com/web/specs/
Is anything known about this unit?
Charlie Whiskey said:
I'm in the market for an Android based head unit for my new SUV and have been digging through the web for a good week now including reading many many posts here. I've noticed Ca-Fi has released a new unit called the Dashlinq4 but information is scant on the web other than the manufacturer's specs:
ca-fi.com/web/specs/
Is anything known about this unit?
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What questions do you have? I have the first model in the US I've owned all other generations of their units - so I have a pretty good understanding of them.
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Old Dashlinq Model coming out: Android 2.3 w/ 1ghz, 512mb ram
New Dashlinq 4 installed with 4.1.1
Comparison of these two: NOTE THESE ARE THE TOYOTA UNIVERSAL MODELS not the double din universal
Finished Install in a 2013 Scion FR-S
Here is a few video walk throughs I just did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGxtnF6GfU&list=HL1396200956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=303ny-z1LtM&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSPT7Jrd_-E
Here are some additional photos of my install. This is the toyota universal specific model (200mmx100mm) not the double din universal model. It is installed in a Scion FR-S
Base car home launcher that sits on top of the android launcher (see video for better understanding)
Built in radio app
Torque works - obviously its not working in this video... just to display the obd2 reader that goes with the app
Settings showing obd2 reader attached via bluetooth (device is NOT rooted, this works out of the box)
Launcher behind car home - customized with car widget and play music widget
Installing an App
Angry Birds Demo, lol
Running Torque:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSv-3fKBmls&feature=youtu.be
Overall Performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_HheZ9aJ1c&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tvs8GQVZiE&feature=youtu.be
Great. I was going to say I found a guy on youtube posting all these videos. I think that's you. Cheers.
Would you know if it's possible to hook up a USB OBD2 adaptor?
Also any chance you've a photo of the back of the unit? Just wondering what kind of connections are available.
How much data do you think youre using daily?
Charlie Whiskey said:
Great. I was going to say I found a guy on youtube posting all these videos. I think that's you. Cheers.
Would you know if it's possible to hook up a USB OBD2 adaptor?
Also any chance you've a photo of the back of the unit? Just wondering what kind of connections are available.
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That'd be me.
I wouldn't bet on a usb obd2 adaptor working, but why bother - when you can get a bluetooth one from them that will work (i have a feeling a generic one will also work). Just go the bluetooth route. If you saw my videos on youtube, they do work - well.
Here is a back of the unit:
Here is the wiring and what came with it
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aznminivan said:
How much data do you think youre using daily?
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honestly - not much. i mostly use Waze and google play music.
realistically its no different than your phone - but keep in mind you're only using it for the time periods you're in the car.
I had a dedicated hotspot in one of my old cars with a ca-fi unit - on a 5gb plan, downloading podcasts, constantly streaming, and using it heavily on a 2 hour daily commute - i never came close to using half of my plan
More Qs for you Leadguy,
1) Have you tried side loading applications?
2) How well did it work with Google Play Store out of the box?
3) Can you listen to music (or radio) and have voice navigation (google map or dedicated offline app) at the same time?
4) Noob question - all those RCA connectors, does it mean I'll need an amp as well and can't connect the unit directly to the speakers? I'm really not that picky with audio and would like to avoid the complexity if possible...
Charlie Whiskey said:
More Qs for you Leadguy,
1) Have you tried side loading applications?
2) How well did it work with Google Play Store out of the box?
3) Can you listen to music (or radio) and have voice navigation (google map or dedicated offline app) at the same time?
4) Noob question - all those RCA connectors, does it mean I'll need an amp as well and can't connect the unit directly to the speakers? I'm really not that picky with audio and would like to avoid the complexity if possible...
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1. Yes sideloading applications works just as any pure google device. No hiccups.
2. Play store works 100% as expected.
3. Yes, music of any sort will work perfectly WITH voice navigation. It will fade in and out very nicely between sources (music vs navigation).
4. no need for an external amp, it has a 45w x 4 speaker amp internally. It does provide the option of external amps if preferred though.
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1. Yes sideloading applications works just as any pure google device. No hiccups.
2. Play store works 100% as expected.
3. Yes, music of any sort will work perfectly WITH voice navigation. It will fade in and out very nicely between sources (music vs navigation).
4. no need for an external amp, it has a 45w x 4 speaker amp internally. It does provide the option of external amps if preferred though.
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Do you have steering wheel controls in your car? If so, do they still work; or do you know if there is an option for them to work?
@leadguy68
Thanks for your information, I'm also looking to buy this unit but just wondering if you install this yourself into your Scion or did you get it professionally installed? If you installed yourself, did you have to modify your dash at all? I'm curious to know because I have the same car, 2013 86gt.
Also wanted to know the following:
Does the GPS work well?
Have you tried hooking up a portable hard drive to this unit?
Does it have usb connectors on the back of unit so that we can drag cable to the glove compartment and hide hard drive or ipod?
Does it play hd movies without probs?
Does the hands free calling work well? I drive alot for work and make heaps of calls in the car or do u need a ext mic?
Have you installed the rear camera? If so, does it work well?
How's the navigation through folders for music?
Have u tried rooting the unit yet?
Do you think the speakers in the Scion need upgrading?
Do you know if we need to buy any other accessories for this unit apart from obd II interface to run torque?
Appreciate your help.
netchemica said:
Do you have steering wheel controls in your car? If so, do they still work; or do you know if there is an option for them to work?
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My car doesn't have steering wheel controls unfortunately. BUT it does have the option to wire them in if you have them.
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Changy8 said:
@leadguy68
Thanks for your information, I'm also looking to buy this unit but just wondering if you install this yourself into your Scion or did you get it professionally installed? If you installed yourself, did you have to modify your dash at all? I'm curious to know because I have the same car, 2013 86gt.
Also wanted to know the following:
Does the GPS work well?
Have you tried hooking up a portable hard drive to this unit?
Does it have usb connectors on the back of unit so that we can drag cable to the glove compartment and hide hard drive or ipod?
Does it play hd movies without probs?
Does the hands free calling work well? I drive alot for work and make heaps of calls in the car or do u need a ext mic?
Have you installed the rear camera? If so, does it work well?
How's the navigation through folders for music?
Have u tried rooting the unit yet?
Do you think the speakers in the Scion need upgrading?
Do you know if we need to buy any other accessories for this unit apart from obd II interface to run torque?
Appreciate your help.
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Hey! See my full review for the GT86 at http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62619 That will give you most of the info you need!
Install took literally 15 minutes, no need for a professional. its dead simple.
1. GPS is solid, locks nearly immediately
2. Yep hard drives work without a hitch.
3 it has two usb cables more than long enough to route to the glove box. one for Wifi, one for a hard drive or usb drive.
4. HD movies work great, depending on the app you play them with, they are hiccup free
5. hands free calling works, and works great. the built in mic is pretty decent.
6 no rear camera for me, i have one to install - but no time to set it up.
7. folder navigation is just like any other android device. no big deal!
8 no need to root the device honestly. it does everything i'd need from a car stereo and then some without hacking
9. the stock speakers work - i plan to upgrade eventually though.
10. no other accessories needed to run torque other than the bluetooth obd2 reader.
Thanks Leadguy68.
Your email response is most useful.
Looks like im going to pull the trigger on this one.
Now I got to wait for delivery to Australia.
Planning to upgrade the speakers as well.
@leadguy,
If you've installed your reverse camera, can you please find out whether it's possible to manually select the camera view without going into reverse?
I found this really cool 4-cameras bird's eye view park assist system and one of its feature is to automatically activate the side camera when the turn indicator comes on. Of course then I can't depend on the Dashlinq's reverse wire to turn on the camera view for me.
Charlie Whiskey said:
@leadguy,
If you've installed your reverse camera, can you please find out whether it's possible to manually select the camera view without going into reverse?
I found this really cool 4-cameras bird's eye view park assist system and one of its feature is to automatically activate the side camera when the turn indicator comes on. Of course then I can't depend on the Dashlinq's reverse wire to turn on the camera view for me.
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As best as I can tell there isn't a way to manually select it - but don't take that to the bank. I don't have a camera installed currently with the unit.
Worst case - what you could do is wire the reverse wire that triggers the reverse camera on the screen to a toggle switch in the car and trigger it that way. Easy work around :good:
I wonder if you can hook up a remote control to this unit, I'm assuming this unit does not come with a remote?
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I wonder if you can hook up a remote control to this unit, I'm assuming this unit does not come with a remote?
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This unit does not directly support a remote control
BUT there are aftermarket remote controls that can be wired to the steering wheel control functionality on this unit. That may be a route you could take for that functionality.
Your part 1 of 3 of your walk thru on YouTube is missing. Can you repost it?
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I've came from different Android headunit threads, and so far this is the best one, and more important it has the best support.
Also, it has stand by mode which others doesn't.
The developers at Ca-Fi made a great work integrating non-Android devices seamlessly into the operating system itself. Too bad you couldn't test steering wheel controls with third party apps like Google Play Music.
Does the system have video out for headrest?
If so , does it have dualzone? As in continue to play video on these headrest while navigating GPS or something?
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So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first. Would be cool if it could see okay this guy has Netflix and Plex let's give him recommendations on those and also I'm not a fan with how it is laid out. Maybe I'm just to adjusted to how the Roku works.
I am hoping (but not holding my breath on the first one) for amazon video, hbo go, and a few others support. That or maybe google should adapt a subscription service like prime instead of paying to buy or rent everything. I would also like to see more support for it on here as well.
djwyman said:
I am hoping (but not holding my breath on the first one) for amazon video, hbo go, and a few others support. That or maybe google should adapt a subscription service like prime instead of paying to buy or rent everything. I would also like to see more support for it on here as well.
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i havn't tried it yet, but you can probably install hbo go thru play.google.com or by sideloading it. same is prob true for amazon video app
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i havn't tried it yet, but you can probably install hbo go thru play.google.com or by sideloading it. same is prob true for amazon video app
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I tried side loading amazon...it was a no go. HBO won't install from the play.google.com onto it but I have not yet tried it side loaded though. Which for me it wouldn't matter until HBO does their new subscription thing next year, it was more of a hey these things would make it more useful and competitive with other tv boxes out right now.
To clairfy amazon would install just fine however it would force close when trying to play a video right after it warns you about the device not using davilk (probably misspelled but that cache we all used to have to clear before installing new roms and such)
You can cast HBO Go w/ your mobile device. Not the same as a full blown app, but it works just like chromecast.
I got Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime Music to work.
First you will need to have sideloaded chrome and es file explorer.
Also, you will need to have a usb otg cable and a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Once you have those things you can navigate to apkmirror.com and download the amazon apk's.
I used es file explorer's downloader to download them.
Once installed, you can open them by using Chainfire's sideload launcher or from settings.
bbb0487 said:
I got Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime Music to work.
First you will need to have sideloaded chrome and es file explorer.
Also, you will need to have a usb otg cable and a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Once you have those things you can navigate to apkmirror.com and download the amazon apk's.
I used es file explorer's downloader to download them.
Once installed, you can open them by using Chainfire's sideload launcher or from settings.
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I had them installed but for me the video one would crash as soon as I would try to play a video. Are the ones on apkmirror.com different than the ones on the amazon appstore?
djwyman said:
I had them installed but for me the video one would crash as soon as I would try to play a video. Are the ones on apkmirror.com different than the ones on the amazon appstore?
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Nevermind, I just tryed played a video and had the same problem.
jtboyz01 said:
So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first.
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The relative lack of posts here on XDA tells me that Nexus Player is not (yet) popular among "Android enthusiasts".
I think enthusiasm will grow, but many people may wait for a 2nd or 3rd generation device. Currently, there are complaints that it doesn't have an ethernet port, among other shortcomings at present.
I don't know if interest will pick up from "regular people". If Google had a good ad/commercial (on "normal" TV of course, LOL), sales could be good.
At present, custom ROM etc. development is slow/stalled. What other Nexus device came out that hasn't been properly rooted yet ? I hope and assume Chainfire will get us going better soon.
So far we can unlock bootloader and get a root adb shell. I'm not sure if the default popups for SuperSU work OK on TV yet. And x86 and 64 bit support ?
So,... I'm not sure that current NP will have much commercial success. But IMO there is very good potential for the future.
I am personally interested in "testing the waters" of app development on this Player. I have no interest at this time in any non-Android devices, simply because I have "hitched my wagon" in the 100% Android development camp.
It will be popular imo. Just not enough out there...
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It will be popular imo. Just not enough out there...
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I think the platform will be a little more wide spread once it starts getting used in other boxes and tvs. Right now these and the adt-1 (which only a hand full of people have) and hopefully once these other devices get out there it will make more developers get interested in it.
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So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player?
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So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first. Would be cool if it could see okay this guy has Netflix and Plex let's give him recommendations on those and also I'm not a fan with how it is laid out. Maybe I'm just to adjusted to how the Roku works.
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It will go in the dust bin... I have already gone back to my Roku 3 due to issues that I am having with NP and also Plex. This will also be the last "nexus" product that I buy. The things that Google pushes out seem to be in perpetual beta and I can't have that any more.
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants!
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When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants!
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You seem a bit mad. Does the truth hurt? Roku is doing something right. They have sold 10 million units. Nexus player? No idea, but I can guess it's nowhere near that. You also have articles coming out like this for the NP: Google’s Nexus Player: More prototype than finished product
Nexus player can't even connect to 5.0ghz wireless (RT-N66U). ALL other devices on my network (including this PC) work fine on 5.0Ghz. I assume you don't use Plex at all on NP as the video pauses every 20 minutes or so. I even saw someone on the Plex forum that was using MediaBrowser 3 (on NP) having the same issue. It makes me think that this is not an issue with Plex and MediaBrowser, but something with the NP itself otherwise why would two different apps have the same issue on the same platform?
I don't know about you, but I want a device that simply works. NP has a very nice UI, but not everything is working nicely. This has nothing to do with not knowing what I am doing. NP is meant to be a plug and play device not something you need to tinker with in order for it to work. Other issues I have with NP are: Wi-Fi disconnects for no apparent reason, voice search is hit or miss, recommendations are a mess (maybe this is app related I am not sure), and casting sometimes stops working for no apparent reason.
The point you are trying to make about Gb speeds. Doesn't really make sense. Are you implying that NP works better if I go spend more money to get the OTG cable and a LAN port? NO THANKS! If you need a LAN port to make the device work properly it should have been included with the device.
I will be the first to admit that Roku has a pretty crappy UI, but it WORKS! I don't care how many apps Roku has. My main ones I use are Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. I sometimes load up MediaBrowser 3 to see how they are progressing with the product, but that's about it.
The last thing that doesn't seem to look good in regards to the NP is the lack of new apps coming out. There was even a recent post in this forum somewhere about it. Will developers get on board? Developer support will make/break the product. Right now the NP and ATV in general is lacking in that department. Google will need to get off of their collective asses and fix the bugs in their product and push this platform hard or it will fall flat on it's face (much like Google TV did).
Enjoy!
{lol} Enjoy your Roku made for you plug-N-play!
The next Android TV box you should be getting http://armdevices.net/2015/02/04/ge...op-android-tv-on-amlogic-and-shares-strategy/ ! Monster specs!
EcPercy is right. I own several rooted Chromecasts, a roku 3, a roku 1, and a nexus player. This is by far the least user friendly of all of them, when used normally (not casting to np). I'm still waiting on Amazon instant video. It works on my phone, why not on this? Seriously, Amazon, get on it. I don't want to end up with a paperweight, but Pluto TV and YouTube don't work right either. Buffering every 20 seconds is hardly worth my time and energy. I'm an RD here and know my way around android. I know well what I'm doing, and this device as it sits is simply not a good investment. You shouldn't have to fix something right out of the box to have it simply function as intended. I'm hoping the bugs get ironed out soon, both with Google and the individual app devs. A lot of it has to do with adding in support for lower bitrates.
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You seem a bit mad. Does the truth hurt? Roku is doing something right. They have sold 10 million units. Nexus player? No idea, but I can guess it's nowhere near that. You also have articles coming out like this for the NP: Google’s Nexus Player: More prototype than finished product
Nexus player can't even connect to 5.0ghz wireless (RT-N66U). ALL other devices on my network (including this PC) work fine on 5.0Ghz. I assume you don't use Plex at all on NP as the video pauses every 20 minutes or so. I even saw someone on the Plex forum that was using MediaBrowser 3 (on NP) having the same issue. It makes me think that this is not an issue with Plex and MediaBrowser, but something with the NP itself otherwise why would two different apps have the same issue on the same platform?
I don't know about you, but I want a device that simply works. NP has a very nice UI, but not everything is working nicely. This has nothing to do with not knowing what I am doing. NP is meant to be a plug and play device not something you need to tinker with in order for it to work. Other issues I have with NP are: Wi-Fi disconnects for no apparent reason, voice search is hit or miss, recommendations are a mess (maybe this is app related I am not sure), and casting sometimes stops working for no apparent reason.
The point you are trying to make about Gb speeds. Doesn't really make sense. Are you implying that NP works better if I go spend more money to get the OTG cable and a LAN port? NO THANKS! If you need a LAN port to make the device work properly it should have been included with the device.
I will be the first to admit that Roku has a pretty crappy UI, but it WORKS! I don't care how many apps Roku has. My main ones I use are Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. I sometimes load up MediaBrowser 3 to see how they are progressing with the product, but that's about it.
The last thing that doesn't seem to look good in regards to the NP is the lack of new apps coming out. There was even a recent post in this forum somewhere about it. Will developers get on board? Developer support will make/break the product. Right now the NP and ATV in general is lacking in that department. Google will need to get off of their collective asses and fix the bugs in their product and push this platform hard or it will fall flat on it's face (much like Google TV did).
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Agreed. I've got about 3 weeks to toy with it before off back to Amazon it goes. I kind of figured the return shipping would be worth a shot to see if it had any potential but as it sits, I don't know.
I absolutely LOVE the Plex interface with lollipop for TV's its easily the nicest of any Plex app including the Plexbmc with Amber, which doesn't work with the puck either I might add. Google has been disappointing me to no end lately, the N9's quality issues, the N6's availability issues, now this. Grrrr.
I just can't fathom how the Android TV "team" can release a device that can't play video nearly as well as their own $25 Chromecast dongle! I have two of those and they play everything I throw at them without a hitch.
What's telling as well is that the Fire stick has issues with Plex playing 1080 content too. I wonder if the new Razer box will be any better?
AndroidTVTech1 said:
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants![/QUOTE
I respect your knowledge of Android,many people do not have your abilities . But if Google was to depend on the average customer to have your abilities I'm afraid it would be short lived? Most people expect a product to function out of the box, if you wish to modify thats your choice. It should not be a requirement? Please remember that some monitor this forum to learn from developers such as yourself. A little patience and respect goes a long way :good:
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The only thing nice about the nexus player is the UI and it's potential. KODI is nice. I am hoping for a remote-friendly popcorn time to satisfy me, but development for NP is so weak. If it had hbo go, and showtime anytime, those are basic apps it should have just to be on the same level as it's competitors. But since it has come out, how many new apps have you seen show up in the play store? 2? 3? I always go to the device play store in hopes they finally get their shhit together. Android always has a habit of releasing something new and amazing and then neglecting it.
Hi everybody!
I have a question, pretty important to me. I have MTCB_KD_V2.41 unit running on Android 5.1.1.
Question (sorry for bad english, I´ll try to keep it simple): Use additional monitor (foldable on dash) to run GPS software (sygic) installed on head unit and at the same time to keep on head unit some other app opened (music, video, youtube....)?
Reason is that I have VW Mk4 Jetta so when I am using GPS I can´t have eyes on the road because HU is down in console, close to the shifter!
One thing I am sure is that HU have one or two video outputs!
Tnx in advance!!!
blackwood91 said:
Hi everybody!
I have a question, pretty important to me. I have MTCB_KD_V2.41 unit running on Android 5.1.1.
Question (sorry for bad english, I´ll try to keep it simple): Use additional monitor (foldable on dash) to run GPS software (sygic) installed on head unit and at the same time to keep on head unit some other app opened (music, video, youtube....)?
Reason is that I have VW Mk4 Jetta so when I am using GPS I can´t have eyes on the road because HU is down in console, close to the shifter!
One thing I am sure is that HU have one or two video outputs!
Tnx in advance!!!
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I don't know the answer but I'm interested.
Maybe I'll put in displays in the headrests for playing video for the kids if this is an option
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I have an Hizpo branded android 7.1.2 XRC unit (direct fit for a 2007 cr-v) and here are my experiences with this android deck in terms of dual zone:
I have an overhead flip down monitor (which is connected to one of the video out rca behind the deck) in the back for the kids. The only 2 sources that will allow some form of dual zone for me is the DVD player and AUX input. When on either of those sources I am only able to run and display my navigation app on the deck it self (while the overhead is showing the selected "source")
If I select any other source (ie: radio, video and music player... Etc..) the overhead monitor will go black with no signal meaning my deck does not mirror the image to the video out (which I kind of hoped it did). Please keep in mind this my experience with this Hizpo deck as I do know some will mirror whats on the deck to the video out (just do a youtube search and you will see).
Hope this helps!
So, there is no way I can assign additional screen for GPS app or at least duplicate HU display?
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So, there is no way I can assign additional screen for GPS app or at least duplicate HU display?
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Not with the deck that I have.
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Wavelet
Headphone specific equalization
Introduction
Wavelet may be the most powerful equalizer for Android to date that doesn't require root or an unlocked bootloader. It is capable of processing audio system wide and supports optimal equalization settings for over 3300 headphones. That's way more headphones to choose from than the Sonarworks and Dirac android apps combined have to offer.
Supporting this many headphones has been made possible by Jaakko for letting me use his awesome AutoEq project.
Features
The app features a minimal UI with plenty of options for customization:
You can use AutoEq to equalize your headphones to the Harman standard. The graph visualizes the compensation applied.
There's a 9 band graphical equalizer you can use fine tune the result or set up when your headphones don't appear to be available in the database.
The effects section offers effects such as bass boost, virtualization and reverberation. There's a bass tuner option too to give your beats that little extra thump, or reduce bass if you're not a basshead.
At the bottom you can find the gain controls. There's a limiter allowing you to reduce dynamic range and a channel balance feature for when you find one channel playing too loud or if you just want to reduce the overall output volume.
Installation
Wavelet can be downloaded here from Google Play.
Features displayed vary on the mode you're using and what output device is connected.
I strongly recommend checking out the README and read up on legacy mode to help you get the best experience
XDA:DevDB Information
Wavelet, App for all devices (see above for details)
Contributors
pittvandewitt
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 22.07
Stable Release Date: 2022-07-04
Created 2020-05-11
Last Updated 2022-07-05
Google Play link isn't working...
EDIT: Now it is!
s8m said:
Google Play link isn't working...
EDIT: Now it is!
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First impressions - awesome work! Nice UI and my headphones were recognized. I could only get legacy mode working but the graphical EQ is nice to have if the headphone correction isn't quite tuned for your ears. I think this is going to be a popular audio mod/app...looking forward to further development. :good:
Can you explain how this app is able to apply EQ effects without having root access or being a system app? What kind of APIs are you using? Thanks!
edit: actually, would love if we could chat more about this project. Giving this a shot right now with my Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones and it seems pretty nice. Feel free to email me at [email protected]
s8m said:
First impressions - awesome work! Nice UI and my headphones were recognized. I could only get legacy mode working but the graphical EQ is nice to have if the headphone correction isn't quite tuned for your ears. I think this is going to be a popular audio mod/app...looking forward to further development. :good:
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Thank you! I put a lot of thought in the design.
Legacy/regular mode is the best solution I could come up with to cope with the finicky audio sessions design Android has implemented. If it works or not depends on the music player you use and if your device manufacturer allows processing the global audio session or not. Sometimes both modes work and in the worst case nothing might work
MishaalRahman said:
Can you explain how this app is able to apply EQ effects without having root access or being a system app? What kind of APIs are you using? Thanks!
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The app makes use of standard libraries Android provides. Most of them are available since Android 2.3, but the DynamicsProcessing library is relatively new and allows for much more customizability. It allowed me to build the equalization and gain control features.
Default mode listens for audio sessions started by music players and applies these effects to them. Legacy mode applies them system-wide (session 0), but this may not work on all devices.
Hey man I'm downloading your app and wanted to try out the pro features. Possible to sent me a redeem code?
xhacker said:
Hey man I'm downloading your app and wanted to try out the pro features. Possible to sent me a redeem code?
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There is no mention of pro features.. according to the OP, the features available depend on device capabilities.
Here it is by what he means of pro features
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There is no mention of pro features.. according to the OP, the features available depend on device capabilities.
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It is asking to pay and unlock remaining features.
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It is asking to pay and unlock remaining features.
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Interesting, I haven't seen that in the app myself.
Bought the app for developer support, awesome job! I was waiting to see when someone would pick up the audio development.
One less reason for root.
The only thing is clipping when adding bast boost. Bass tuning helps but volume clipping still happens.
Still awesome though.
I can confirm. my device also requires unlocking to even test the effects. I have a Galaxy A20 stock phone and quite frankly, it lacks severely with the sound quality on my headphones (Sony MDR-XB50AP/R). I have been looking for an alternative to Viper4Android which has really shown the power of the earbuds, but that requires rooting the phone and a supported ROM. I can understand the monetization of an app to help support the development and do not have an issue with that, but I gave this app a hard pass for two reasons:
1) You can't try the effects mode without paying the fee.
2) The fee for me was $5.49 to take a chance on it, yes I can get a refund on an IAP through Google, but that's not what I'd really like to do.
Why not set the app up to allow people to try the effects for say 20-30 minutes to allow them to see if it works for their needs and then charge the fee if they want to continue using it ?
pittvandewitt said:
Thank you! I put a lot of thought in the design.
Legacy/regular mode is the best solution I could come up with to cope with the finicky audio sessions design Android has implemented. If it works or not depends on the music player you use and if your device manufacturer allows processing the global audio session or not. Sometimes both modes work and in the worst case nothing might work
The app makes use of standard libraries Android provides. Most of them are available since Android 2.3, but the DynamicsProcessing library is relatively new and allows for much more customizability. It allowed me to build the equalization and gain control features.
Default mode listens for audio sessions started by music players and applies these effects to them. Legacy mode applies them system-wide (session 0), but this may not work on all devices.
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Thank you for the app. I've tried work fine with Spotify but not with PowerAmp (i've tried legacy mode with PowerAmp but not working) but as it a first version I hope this can solved in the future update.
So I guess I'll stick with Viper4Android from your release for now.
Sent from my beloved Oneplus 5T
coilbio said:
Bought the app for developer support, awesome job! I was waiting to see when someone would pick up the audio development.
One less reason for root.
The only thing is clipping when adding bast boost. Bass tuning helps but volume clipping still happens.
Still awesome though.
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Thank you!
There is a build in closed testing with a new function that reduces clipping at cost of increased latency. If I'm satisfied I'll release it publicly.
Medfordite said:
I can confirm. my device also requires unlocking to even test the effects. I have a Galaxy A20 stock phone and quite frankly, it lacks severely with the sound quality on my headphones (Sony MDR-XB50AP/R). I have been looking for an alternative to Viper4Android which has really shown the power of the earbuds, but that requires rooting the phone and a supported ROM. I can understand the monetization of an app to help support the development and do not have an issue with that, but I gave this app a hard pass for two reasons:
1) You can't try the effects mode without paying the fee.
2) The fee for me was $5.49 to take a chance on it, yes I can get a refund on an IAP through Google, but that's not what I'd really like to do.
Why not set the app up to allow people to try the effects for say 20-30 minutes to allow them to see if it works for their needs and then charge the fee if they want to continue using it ?
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Thanks for the input and the support. I will think of a way to cleanly implement a short trail. It's easier said than done
aillez said:
Thank you for the app. I've tried work fine with Spotify but not with PowerAmp (i've tried legacy mode with PowerAmp but not working) but as it a first version I hope this can solved in the future update.
So I guess I'll stick with Viper4Android from your release for now.
Sent from my beloved Oneplus 5T
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PowerAmp might work if you disable direct volume control in PA and enable legacy mode in Wavelet. The result differs depending on your phone. Else you may be able to get it to work using https://zackptg5.com/android.php#acp (requires root).
Current implementation is the best I can come up with. Android audio sessions are mess..
Works pretty well with my S9+ (Exynos) and Sony 1000XM3, I tried Spotify and Spotify Stations, for Stations the app doesn't realize that music is playing, can you do something for this or is it up to Spotify?
Working fine in legacy mode on my Pocophone, MIUI 11. I bought the pro version but i couldn't see the limiter option.
Could someone share some phone models for me to search in the autoeq list?
Very, very nice. Have it on my Pixel 3a and bought the pro key. Using my Sennheiser HD 120 and sounds fantastic. I like the Legacy mode as I use Google Podcasts most of the time and Wavelet doesn't detect it as a session but I believe this is correct. Could it detect GP so I could use the non Legacy features? Anyway, well done on a great app and slick UI.
I needed to use legacy mode with Poweramp on my Samsung note 10 plus. I have yet to test this on my pixel 4 XL but I think it'll be the same thing I'll need to enable legacy mode in order to run this app through Poweramp. Sadly I'm missing the limiter option and all the audio effect features like bass boost virtualizer and stuff like that I'd have to pay for I thought the application is free. Is there some kind of code being passed around? If not let me know
Also, are there plans to update the application in order to fix some of the notable errors or issues that have been mentioned, particularly with audio static? Beyond that this is an exciting application and I'm excited to see where it goes. I've been looking for a viper4android alternative that didn't need root and this seems to be the gym that potentially can match that app. Keep up the good work!
"Wavelet was unable to initiate Dynamics processing effects"
XT1685, Android 9 RR 7.0.2
How does Wavelet sound compared to Viper?
No AutoEQ for me
Hey all.
I preordered the Pixel 7 Pro, rooted it right out of the box and have been using it for months now. Overall it's been a great phone but I'm **STRUGGLING** with some basic things that bug the crap out of me and I'm reaching out for some input.
First of all, the x64-only architecture. I know there's nothing you or I can do about it, but it's BS that Google introduced it without any warnings at all.
I fully realize that app developers need to update their software to be compliant with the future, that's a given, but there are several that still haven't updated their app to be compliant that I used multiple times per day. Things like where their app incorrectly identifies my Pixel 7 Pro as a tablet with a weird resolution and it automatically adjusts to a split screen while in portrait mode, making everything illegible. That one sucks because it's my invoicing program that I've got years of invoices in. Another app FC every time I try to full-screen the app - unbearable when it's the app for your security cameras. BOTH devs have been notified months ago and still no progress on a fix even though they've updated their apps a half dozen times since then.
Second, the screen mirror function is completely missing from my Pixel 7 Pro. I'm unclear if it's something I've done or if Google made it so this is the new "normal".
On my previous phone, a OnePlus 7 Pro, running Derpfest A12, I could pull down the shade, tap "Screen Cast" and it would find my 2 Chromecasts AND my Samsung TV and would connect to the TV with one more tap.
On the Pixel 7 Pro, it only sees the 2 Chromecasts, no TV is found at all. Yet I can cast Youtube directly to the TV without any extra button presses, no issues at all - just cannot mirror my screen like on the OP7P.
In my screenshots, note that my Chromecast devices are named "trojan.B and trojan.D", that's to help deter the neighbors from even trying to connect LOL.
OnePlus 7 Pro Cast settings: (notice the "Enable wireless display" option at the upper right that's 'hidden' under the 3 dots)
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And my Pixel 7 Pro Cast settings: (note there is no 3 dots where I can enable wireless display and that the TV doesn't show up at all)
Have I done something to disable casting to my TV? This is driving me nuts. Everything I've read online and watched in youtube vids shows that this *should* be possible.
I've gone into Google Home and set up everything that's available in there, but the TV still doesn't show up.
Third thing that's KILLING me about this phone is that Viper4Android doesn't work because there is no x64 driver (yet). Of course this is subjective. I prefer V4A over everything else, have been an avid user of V4A for years and have custom built profiles for each of my devices. I'm currently just skating by with Wavelet, but I've tried JamesDSP and I can get kind of close, but it's not like V4A for me.
I know that there are some people working on it and that they're making progress with a new x64 driver and the app overall, but man, this one really hurt.
If I had known that my new $1100 phone was going to be this much trouble for me, I would've just stuck with the OP7P or went in a different direction. I'm currently feeling like I spent $1100 to be partially disabled and unhappy with what's supposed to be the best phone on the market.
Ideas and thoughts that are helpful are much welcomed.
Huh?
I can cast perfectly with just the stock quick tile
You are correct on Google springing x64-only architecture. However we all were notified that the future will be 64 bit only system 2 years ago. Second screencast works just fine on my phone, there is even a quick settings toggle. V4A was a great App prior to Android 13. It was the main reason why I even root .All developers were giving a 2 year notice to be 64bit compatible. Developers are the ones to blame for them not working on the Pixel 7 series. Luckily JamesDSP is a great alternative to V4A. Loudness, bass and clarity are pretty close to profiles I used in V4A.
Screen mirroring was removed from Android when Marshmallow was released in 2015. Natively Android now only uses Chromcast or DIAL which is what YouTube uses, OnePlus will have implemented their own solution to re-enable it.
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Huh?
I can cast perfectly with just the stock quick tile
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That's what I'm talking about and what doesn't work on my phone. At least I know I can factory reset and get that functionality back I guess.
I literally did nothing weird to my phone, I rooted it right out of the box and installed my apps but my Screen Cast toggle only shows the 2 Chromecast devices and not the TV. Same network, same subnet, no VPN or firewall in between - it's my internal network! (I literally install end-user internal networks for a living)
Thanks for the screenshots verifying it's possible. Something is obviously borked with my phone.
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You are correct on Google springing x64-only architecture. However we all were notified that the future will be 64 bit only system 2 years ago. Second screencast works just fine on my phone, there is even a quick settings toggle. V4A was a great App prior to Android 13. It was the main reason why I even root .All developers were giving a 2 year notice to be 64bit compatible. Developers are the ones to blame for them not working on the Pixel 7 series. Luckily JamesDSP is a great alternative to V4A. Loudness, bass and clarity are pretty close to profiles I used in V4A.
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Yep, I realize about the x64 architecture, and I don't want to go backwards. I also realize it's 100% the dev's fault. 2 years is a long enough time to completely recode their app if need be, but it's like it caught some of them off guard. FWIW, their apps do install but our screen resolution forces the app to think it's a larger screen than it is and so when they use split screen in portrait mode, it's truncated or bunched up all together, or it simply FC the app. The apps work perfectly just like they used to other than this.
As for JamesDSP, I can't make it work right. I mean, I can get kind of close, but I actually get frustrated before I can get it close enough to my liking. Like you, I have only rooted my last couple phones for V4A and was severely disappointed to learn that it can't even be installed on the P7P. For whatever reason, JDSP just doesn't do what V4A did for me.
MrBelter said:
Screen mirroring was removed from Android when Marshmallow was released in 2015. Natively Android now only uses Chromcast or DIAL which is what YouTube uses, OnePlus will have implemented their own solution to re-enable it.
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Maybe I didn't use the correct wording?
HipCat shows that when they hit the "Screen Cast" QS tile, they can select their TV and it mirrors exactly what's on their phone. I assume that what we're looking at in HipCat's screenshots is indeed a direct phone to tv cast. When I tap my Screen Cast QS tile, it shows the 2 chromecasts in the house but not the TV, whereas my OnePlus 7 Pro shows them and the TV too and when I select it, it mirrors what's on my screen.
The TV is a 2020 Samsung 75" Q60, it's been able to do this with my OP7P and my older Galaxy S8+
Pixel doesn't support Miracast screen casting (wireless display) and hasn't for years. It's an intentional design and it doesn't matter what your old phone could do. Same reason we can't do video out over USB.
Some newer TVs do support Google's casting protocol and can use that for true screen mirroring. I've seen some LG and Sony TVs do that.
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Maybe I didn't use the correct wording?
HipCat shows that when they hit the "Screen Cast" QS tile, they can select their TV and it mirrors exactly what's on their phone. I assume that what we're looking at in HipCat's screenshots is indeed a direct phone to tv cast. When I tap my Screen Cast QS tile, it shows the 2 chromecasts in the house but not the TV, whereas my OnePlus 7 Pro shows them and the TV too and when I select it, it mirrors what's on my screen.
The TV is a 2020 Samsung 75" Q60, it's been able to do this with my OP7P and my older Galaxy S8+
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That's correct. And I assume all your devices are on the same Network, right?? It's an odd problem for sure
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First of all, the x64-only architecture. I know there's nothing you or I can do about it, but it's BS that Google introduced it without any warnings at all.
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Google advised devs about a year ago that x64 only was coming and they to plan accordingly
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Maybe I didn't use the correct wording?
HipCat shows that when they hit the "Screen Cast" QS tile, they can select their TV and it mirrors exactly what's on their phone. I assume that what we're looking at in HipCat's screenshots is indeed a direct phone to tv cast. When I tap my Screen Cast QS tile, it shows the 2 chromecasts in the house but not the TV, whereas my OnePlus 7 Pro shows them and the TV too and when I select it, it mirrors what's on my screen.
The TV is a 2020 Samsung 75" Q60, it's been able to do this with my OP7P and my older Galaxy S8+
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Looks like Hipcat is casting to an Android TV (as well as a raft of Google products), as i said screen mirroring (well Miracast) was removed from android in 2015 and if you have had another phone working it is because they have added a solution of their own.
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Looks like Hipcat is casting to an Android TV (as well as a raft of Google products), as i said screen mirroring (well Miracast) was removed from android in 2015 and if you have had another phone working it is because they have added a solution of their own.
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You know, I hadn't even considered that
I've been working with this awesome developer who figured out how to screen mirror from a Pixel phone to a Samsung TV via DLNA.
This app is in beta, but IT WORKS!!!
The app is called Screen Mirror Max
Screen Mirror Max - Apps on Google Play
Multi-Screen Mirror to Chromecast and Roku TVs with Audio, also to Web Browser
play.google.com
So weird. I have noticed this too when I was using my Pixel 6 Pro. I could still cast to my Samsung TV until I upgraded to Android 13. Once I was on A13, the same Samsung TV could no longer be casted to from the same phone.
It is unfortunate, however, it is what we currently have. I snagged a 4K Chromecast in order to use casting again, however, the quality and aspect ratio is rather horrible via the Chromecast vs how it was with direct casting to the TV. So, needless to say, but I haven't used casting ever since these changes went into effect.
Side note, but the lack of video transmission over USB-C kinda stinks too. I mean, you technically can over USB-C if you buy a specific adapter for around $50 - $60, however, it results in too many cables sitting around. Additionally, the quality still is not as good as it should be over a wired video connection and the audio doesn't transfer properly (as it transfers with around -75db volume) =(.
Moral of the story from these changes would be to buy a new television that has more modern app features built in so that you no longer need to stream from your phone. However, we don't all have an extra few thousand dollars laying around to purchase a new television, haha. So, I've settled to lose my good eyesight sooner and to just squint at my phone instead lol.
To remedy this, I think that I will get the Pixel Fold once the price drops to around $1000 flat. At that price, along with my store credit and my P7P trade-in, I am hoping that I can get it for around $300. But, of course, one can always wish =P.
moniec15 said:
I've been working with this awesome developer who figured out how to screen mirror from a Pixel phone to a Samsung TV via DLNA.
This app is in beta, but IT WORKS!!!
The app is called Screen Mirror Max
Screen Mirror Max - Apps on Google Play
Multi-Screen Mirror to Chromecast and Roku TVs with Audio, also to Web Browser
play.google.com
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Hey that's awesome if it actually mirrors the screen without an website work around. I'm trying to use it and it seems it will only cast videos or photos and stuff and not actually mirror to my Samsung. I'm probably doing something wrong but I haven't had a chance.to really work out the UI yet.
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Hey that's awesome if it actually mirrors the screen without an website work around. I'm trying to use it and it seems it will only cast videos or photos and stuff and not actually mirror to my Samsung. I'm probably doing something wrong but I haven't had a chance.to really work out the UI yet.
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Yeah I'm not sure what you're doing on your end but I can straight up screen mirror.
Like I said, there is a delay, but screen mirroring works from my Pixel 7P!
For those of us who want to run a more standard Android launcher (Nova, oem launchers, etc), what are you guys doing re: music player controls?
I've noticed that car launchers like Agama and Vivid have pretty cool music controls integrated in- whether it is my Bluetooth connection to a phone, Spotify, Amazon Music, YT Music, etc., it displays whatever track information it has (sometimes art too) and universal play/pause/next/prev buttons. I like that.
My Atoto S8 Ultra (uis7862 based unit) comes with a pretty standard launcher. There is a music widget that seems to control just the built in local music player, which I don't like and therefore don't use. It got me thinking, are there any universal widgets that can work the same way the Vivid/Agama/etc launchers handle it?
I found and tried the following so far:
Music Widgets for Car Devices
This seemed promising on paper. I can't get it to switch between sources however, it gets stuck on the last one used even if I clear all open apps. For example, if I had Spotify open, and the next time I drive I want to listen to Amazon Music, it still shows Spotify controls and track information. I have to go into settings for the widget and press OK, only then will it update.
Also, I think I had the Bluetooth track control the very first time I installed it (I was playing music over BT to test it), but ever since I used it with anything else (Spotify, Amazon, etc) it refuses to ever go back to BT control.
Material Music Widget
I like the aesthetics of this one, seems much nicer than the first one. BUT, the trial version only allows you to connect it to a single app player so I can't confirm if it does what I want correctly. I also can't seem to get it to recognize the BT player, I'd imagine if it wasn't designed to be a car player widget it wouldn't be aware of that as an option.
What else should I try? What do you guys use?
I use Poweramp without any widget. The interface allows you to swipe left, right, up and down on the album cover. Very easy and intuitive. I like keeping it open to see the album cover. I have navigation, Waze on the left 2/3 of the screen and Poweramp on the right 1/3. I think it's 2/3 and 1/3 or it could be 3/4 and 1/4...not sure. I usually use the steering wheel controls to switch to the next song and play/pause. I have another button to change source, but I usually don't. I usually listen to the music on my USB stick using Poweramp.
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I use Poweramp without any widget. The interface allows you to swipe left, right, up and down on the album cover. Very easy and intuitive. I like keeping it open to see the album cover. I have navigation, Waze on the left 2/3 of the screen and Poweramp on the right 1/3. I think it's 2/3 and 1/3 or it could be 3/4 and 1/4...not sure. I usually use the steering wheel controls to switch to the next song and play/pause. I have another button to change source, but I usually don't. I usually listen to the music on my USB stick using Poweramp.
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That doesn't help me though.
I have multiple drivers of my car between my wife and daughter, we use a mix of sources between Spotify, Amazon Music, AA/Bluetooth (because my daughter has her own spotify account she wants to use), etc.
It's annoying to have so many interfaces, I feel like there could/should be one set of "now playing" info on the display, with one universal set of controls for pause/play/next etc.
Agama and other launchers do this correctly, but their UI is too busy and too far from stock for me. I like the stock Android UI better, with the recognizable and colorful icons, but finding a widget like this seems harder than expected.
I am finding the folks at 4PDA made something called Music Proxy which sort of takes over the FYT standard audio player and uses that widget. However, Atoto's built in player widget is kind of ugly, huge, and doesn't even support album art (unlike other launchers that have this built in), I was hoping for a better option.
Suggesting a totally different app (Poweramp) isn't a solution for me personally, although I appreciate the reply.
Still searching for music widget that can go forward and rewind the tracks
Ubiquity ?
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Ubiquity ?
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Does that work on our modern Android OS?
dishe2 said:
Does that work on our modern Android OS?
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No idea. I know they used it on the FYT Android 6 Sofia's. I never used it. I had to dig down deep in my memory and then search Google Play Store to find it back.
I guess you simply have to try.
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No idea. I know they used it on the FYT Android 6 Sofia's. I never used it. I had to dig down deep in my memory and then search Google Play Store to find it back.
I guess you simply have to try.
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I wanted to as soon you wrote it, but it says not compatible with my version of Android.
I could try forcing it via side load but I feel like it might just not work since it says designed for KitKat.
Its a shame because we know it's possible for a widget to do what we are asking but no one has done it.
Meanwhile, thanks to suggestions elsewhere here, I found the music widget updater for Teyes and the music proxy app from 4pda that goes along with it.
It's VERY CLOSE to what I want. It turns the standard FYT music player into a "now playing" universal widget, supports pretty much any media including Bluetooth, and gives play/pause/prev/next controls to whatever is currently playing.
The only problem is that the Atoto oem widget is ugly and still doesn't support album art the way the ones I found above do.
It also doesn't go forward or back in the track like the other suggestion, but I know that isn't compatible with Bluetooth streaming anyway (avrcp support is weak, even in the Bluetooth player screen).
I wish I had more experience with app development so I could try making it myself.
Do you have link?
WidgetUpdater for Teyes (Demo) - Apps on Google Play
Display title, artist and cover of the track in Teyes widgets
play.google.com
FYI, thanks to a post in another thread, @surfer63 pointed out that Ubiquity widget DOES work if you just sideload the apk, despite the Play Store saying incompatible. I installed mine from here and it seems to work:
https://m.apkpure.com/ubiquity-music-widget/com.jackthakar.musicwidget
The problem is, it STILL doesn't do what I wanted apparently: Give universal controls for all audio playing, including Bluetooth.
It's pretty much the same as the apps listed in the first post - as in, a good universal widget for apps (Spotify, Amazon Music, Youtube, etc). But it still does not recognize Bluetooth audio streaming. For that source of audio, you need to use the Bluetooth app on the radio to see and control what's playing. This is what I'm trying to avoid having to do.
The launchers like Vivid, Agama, etc, can all seem to integrate this into one player control. Even the WidgetUpdater for Teyes app linked above this post seems to get it, but relies on a very poorly designed stock launcher widget that doesn't look right on Atoto's launcher (text is aligned oddly). It's totally possible to get this working, but I wonder what I'm doing wrong.
Is it possible that Ubiquity works with other FYT units and their Bluetooth controls? I know my Atoto has a funny Bluetooth system compared to other FYT radios.
UPDATE:
Vivid Launcher. If you've tried it before and found it buggy, try it again now. It does it perfectly.
A long time ago and it was terrible re: compatibility with FYT (it was made for a different radio type). Tried to do too much customization and fell short, being buggy and freezing a lot.
I just tried it again because I remember their music widget was pretty spot on, and I have to say it seems like they really fixed it up to be more compatible, and the audio controls are now EVERYTHING I WANTED IT TO BE!
It will even automatically switch to Bluetooth audio as a source if you start playing something off your phone, pausing the head unit's playback elsewhere. Before this, if I was playing Spotify locally, I couldn't hear voice notes on my phone unless I switch over to the BT app. With the new Vivid launcher, it will automatically pause Spotify and switch to BT as a source when it detects something is playing there. I can then hit play on spotify again and continue.
And no matter what audio source is active, their music screen acts as a universal widget with controls and titles and even album art if there is any. I'm just so excited to have found this I had to share.
dishe2 said:
UPDATE:
Vivid Launcher. If you've tried it before and found it buggy, try it again now. It does it perfectly.
A long time ago and it was terrible re: compatibility with FYT (it was made for a different radio type). Tried to do too much customization and fell short, being buggy and freezing a lot.
I just tried it again because I remember their music widget was pretty spot on, and I have to say it seems like they really fixed it up to be more compatible, and the audio controls are now EVERYTHING I WANTED IT TO BE!
It will even automatically switch to Bluetooth audio as a source if you start playing something off your phone, pausing the head unit's playback elsewhere. Before this, if I was playing Spotify locally, I couldn't hear voice notes on my phone unless I switch over to the BT app. With the new Vivid launcher, it will automatically pause Spotify and switch to BT as a source when it detects something is playing there. I can then hit play on spotify again and continue.
And no matter what audio source is active, their music screen acts as a universal widget with controls and titles and even album art if there is any. I'm just so excited to have found this I had to share.
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What kind of phone do you have and what version of Vivid launcher?
I have special version working well with NavRadio+ and when I use my phone that player sometimes changes into BT playing even if there's no music, but for example sound of typing.
I have a Oneplus 10 Pro, and I dunno - whatever version of Vivid is on the play store about 3 days ago!
I just installed the Vivid launcher on my wife's A6 pf (8581a) and none of the bluetooth or phone functions exist, so I guess they turn on / off features when it recognizes certain hardware?
I noticed that mine lags a couple of seconds before switching to bluetooth, so a notification like turning on my phone or getting a message doesn't switch, but anything that plays for 2+ seconds did. So a voice note would cut off the first couple of seconds, but at least I can replay if I need to and still don't need to change the headunit over.
Maybe your kb has too much constant noise so it clicks over?