Hey all.
I preordered the Pixel 7 Pro, rooted it right out of the box and have been using it for months now. Overall it's been a great phone but I'm **STRUGGLING** with some basic things that bug the crap out of me and I'm reaching out for some input.
First of all, the x64-only architecture. I know there's nothing you or I can do about it, but it's BS that Google introduced it without any warnings at all.
I fully realize that app developers need to update their software to be compliant with the future, that's a given, but there are several that still haven't updated their app to be compliant that I used multiple times per day. Things like where their app incorrectly identifies my Pixel 7 Pro as a tablet with a weird resolution and it automatically adjusts to a split screen while in portrait mode, making everything illegible. That one sucks because it's my invoicing program that I've got years of invoices in. Another app FC every time I try to full-screen the app - unbearable when it's the app for your security cameras. BOTH devs have been notified months ago and still no progress on a fix even though they've updated their apps a half dozen times since then.
Second, the screen mirror function is completely missing from my Pixel 7 Pro. I'm unclear if it's something I've done or if Google made it so this is the new "normal".
On my previous phone, a OnePlus 7 Pro, running Derpfest A12, I could pull down the shade, tap "Screen Cast" and it would find my 2 Chromecasts AND my Samsung TV and would connect to the TV with one more tap.
On the Pixel 7 Pro, it only sees the 2 Chromecasts, no TV is found at all. Yet I can cast Youtube directly to the TV without any extra button presses, no issues at all - just cannot mirror my screen like on the OP7P.
In my screenshots, note that my Chromecast devices are named "trojan.B and trojan.D", that's to help deter the neighbors from even trying to connect LOL.
OnePlus 7 Pro Cast settings: (notice the "Enable wireless display" option at the upper right that's 'hidden' under the 3 dots)
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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And my Pixel 7 Pro Cast settings: (note there is no 3 dots where I can enable wireless display and that the TV doesn't show up at all)
Have I done something to disable casting to my TV? This is driving me nuts. Everything I've read online and watched in youtube vids shows that this *should* be possible.
I've gone into Google Home and set up everything that's available in there, but the TV still doesn't show up.
Third thing that's KILLING me about this phone is that Viper4Android doesn't work because there is no x64 driver (yet). Of course this is subjective. I prefer V4A over everything else, have been an avid user of V4A for years and have custom built profiles for each of my devices. I'm currently just skating by with Wavelet, but I've tried JamesDSP and I can get kind of close, but it's not like V4A for me.
I know that there are some people working on it and that they're making progress with a new x64 driver and the app overall, but man, this one really hurt.
If I had known that my new $1100 phone was going to be this much trouble for me, I would've just stuck with the OP7P or went in a different direction. I'm currently feeling like I spent $1100 to be partially disabled and unhappy with what's supposed to be the best phone on the market.
Ideas and thoughts that are helpful are much welcomed.
Huh?
I can cast perfectly with just the stock quick tile
You are correct on Google springing x64-only architecture. However we all were notified that the future will be 64 bit only system 2 years ago. Second screencast works just fine on my phone, there is even a quick settings toggle. V4A was a great App prior to Android 13. It was the main reason why I even root .All developers were giving a 2 year notice to be 64bit compatible. Developers are the ones to blame for them not working on the Pixel 7 series. Luckily JamesDSP is a great alternative to V4A. Loudness, bass and clarity are pretty close to profiles I used in V4A.
Screen mirroring was removed from Android when Marshmallow was released in 2015. Natively Android now only uses Chromcast or DIAL which is what YouTube uses, OnePlus will have implemented their own solution to re-enable it.
HipKat said:
Huh?
I can cast perfectly with just the stock quick tile
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That's what I'm talking about and what doesn't work on my phone. At least I know I can factory reset and get that functionality back I guess.
I literally did nothing weird to my phone, I rooted it right out of the box and installed my apps but my Screen Cast toggle only shows the 2 Chromecast devices and not the TV. Same network, same subnet, no VPN or firewall in between - it's my internal network! (I literally install end-user internal networks for a living)
Thanks for the screenshots verifying it's possible. Something is obviously borked with my phone.
schmeggy929 said:
You are correct on Google springing x64-only architecture. However we all were notified that the future will be 64 bit only system 2 years ago. Second screencast works just fine on my phone, there is even a quick settings toggle. V4A was a great App prior to Android 13. It was the main reason why I even root .All developers were giving a 2 year notice to be 64bit compatible. Developers are the ones to blame for them not working on the Pixel 7 series. Luckily JamesDSP is a great alternative to V4A. Loudness, bass and clarity are pretty close to profiles I used in V4A.
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Yep, I realize about the x64 architecture, and I don't want to go backwards. I also realize it's 100% the dev's fault. 2 years is a long enough time to completely recode their app if need be, but it's like it caught some of them off guard. FWIW, their apps do install but our screen resolution forces the app to think it's a larger screen than it is and so when they use split screen in portrait mode, it's truncated or bunched up all together, or it simply FC the app. The apps work perfectly just like they used to other than this.
As for JamesDSP, I can't make it work right. I mean, I can get kind of close, but I actually get frustrated before I can get it close enough to my liking. Like you, I have only rooted my last couple phones for V4A and was severely disappointed to learn that it can't even be installed on the P7P. For whatever reason, JDSP just doesn't do what V4A did for me.
MrBelter said:
Screen mirroring was removed from Android when Marshmallow was released in 2015. Natively Android now only uses Chromcast or DIAL which is what YouTube uses, OnePlus will have implemented their own solution to re-enable it.
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Maybe I didn't use the correct wording?
HipCat shows that when they hit the "Screen Cast" QS tile, they can select their TV and it mirrors exactly what's on their phone. I assume that what we're looking at in HipCat's screenshots is indeed a direct phone to tv cast. When I tap my Screen Cast QS tile, it shows the 2 chromecasts in the house but not the TV, whereas my OnePlus 7 Pro shows them and the TV too and when I select it, it mirrors what's on my screen.
The TV is a 2020 Samsung 75" Q60, it's been able to do this with my OP7P and my older Galaxy S8+
Pixel doesn't support Miracast screen casting (wireless display) and hasn't for years. It's an intentional design and it doesn't matter what your old phone could do. Same reason we can't do video out over USB.
Some newer TVs do support Google's casting protocol and can use that for true screen mirroring. I've seen some LG and Sony TVs do that.
Psychlone said:
Maybe I didn't use the correct wording?
HipCat shows that when they hit the "Screen Cast" QS tile, they can select their TV and it mirrors exactly what's on their phone. I assume that what we're looking at in HipCat's screenshots is indeed a direct phone to tv cast. When I tap my Screen Cast QS tile, it shows the 2 chromecasts in the house but not the TV, whereas my OnePlus 7 Pro shows them and the TV too and when I select it, it mirrors what's on my screen.
The TV is a 2020 Samsung 75" Q60, it's been able to do this with my OP7P and my older Galaxy S8+
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That's correct. And I assume all your devices are on the same Network, right?? It's an odd problem for sure
Psychlone said:
First of all, the x64-only architecture. I know there's nothing you or I can do about it, but it's BS that Google introduced it without any warnings at all.
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Google advised devs about a year ago that x64 only was coming and they to plan accordingly
Psychlone said:
Maybe I didn't use the correct wording?
HipCat shows that when they hit the "Screen Cast" QS tile, they can select their TV and it mirrors exactly what's on their phone. I assume that what we're looking at in HipCat's screenshots is indeed a direct phone to tv cast. When I tap my Screen Cast QS tile, it shows the 2 chromecasts in the house but not the TV, whereas my OnePlus 7 Pro shows them and the TV too and when I select it, it mirrors what's on my screen.
The TV is a 2020 Samsung 75" Q60, it's been able to do this with my OP7P and my older Galaxy S8+
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Looks like Hipcat is casting to an Android TV (as well as a raft of Google products), as i said screen mirroring (well Miracast) was removed from android in 2015 and if you have had another phone working it is because they have added a solution of their own.
MrBelter said:
Looks like Hipcat is casting to an Android TV (as well as a raft of Google products), as i said screen mirroring (well Miracast) was removed from android in 2015 and if you have had another phone working it is because they have added a solution of their own.
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You know, I hadn't even considered that
I've been working with this awesome developer who figured out how to screen mirror from a Pixel phone to a Samsung TV via DLNA.
This app is in beta, but IT WORKS!!!
The app is called Screen Mirror Max
Screen Mirror Max - Apps on Google Play
Multi-Screen Mirror to Chromecast and Roku TVs with Audio, also to Web Browser
play.google.com
So weird. I have noticed this too when I was using my Pixel 6 Pro. I could still cast to my Samsung TV until I upgraded to Android 13. Once I was on A13, the same Samsung TV could no longer be casted to from the same phone.
It is unfortunate, however, it is what we currently have. I snagged a 4K Chromecast in order to use casting again, however, the quality and aspect ratio is rather horrible via the Chromecast vs how it was with direct casting to the TV. So, needless to say, but I haven't used casting ever since these changes went into effect.
Side note, but the lack of video transmission over USB-C kinda stinks too. I mean, you technically can over USB-C if you buy a specific adapter for around $50 - $60, however, it results in too many cables sitting around. Additionally, the quality still is not as good as it should be over a wired video connection and the audio doesn't transfer properly (as it transfers with around -75db volume) =(.
Moral of the story from these changes would be to buy a new television that has more modern app features built in so that you no longer need to stream from your phone. However, we don't all have an extra few thousand dollars laying around to purchase a new television, haha. So, I've settled to lose my good eyesight sooner and to just squint at my phone instead lol.
To remedy this, I think that I will get the Pixel Fold once the price drops to around $1000 flat. At that price, along with my store credit and my P7P trade-in, I am hoping that I can get it for around $300. But, of course, one can always wish =P.
moniec15 said:
I've been working with this awesome developer who figured out how to screen mirror from a Pixel phone to a Samsung TV via DLNA.
This app is in beta, but IT WORKS!!!
The app is called Screen Mirror Max
Screen Mirror Max - Apps on Google Play
Multi-Screen Mirror to Chromecast and Roku TVs with Audio, also to Web Browser
play.google.com
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Hey that's awesome if it actually mirrors the screen without an website work around. I'm trying to use it and it seems it will only cast videos or photos and stuff and not actually mirror to my Samsung. I'm probably doing something wrong but I haven't had a chance.to really work out the UI yet.
chetly968 said:
Hey that's awesome if it actually mirrors the screen without an website work around. I'm trying to use it and it seems it will only cast videos or photos and stuff and not actually mirror to my Samsung. I'm probably doing something wrong but I haven't had a chance.to really work out the UI yet.
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Yeah I'm not sure what you're doing on your end but I can straight up screen mirror.
Like I said, there is a delay, but screen mirroring works from my Pixel 7P!
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I'm in the market for an Android based head unit for my new SUV and have been digging through the web for a good week now including reading many many posts here. I've noticed Ca-Fi has released a new unit called the Dashlinq4 but information is scant on the web other than the manufacturer's specs:
ca-fi.com/web/specs/
Is anything known about this unit?
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I'm in the market for an Android based head unit for my new SUV and have been digging through the web for a good week now including reading many many posts here. I've noticed Ca-Fi has released a new unit called the Dashlinq4 but information is scant on the web other than the manufacturer's specs:
ca-fi.com/web/specs/
Is anything known about this unit?
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What questions do you have? I have the first model in the US I've owned all other generations of their units - so I have a pretty good understanding of them.
Dashlinq 4 as delivered:
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Old Dashlinq Model coming out: Android 2.3 w/ 1ghz, 512mb ram
New Dashlinq 4 installed with 4.1.1
Comparison of these two: NOTE THESE ARE THE TOYOTA UNIVERSAL MODELS not the double din universal
Finished Install in a 2013 Scion FR-S
Here is a few video walk throughs I just did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGxtnF6GfU&list=HL1396200956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=303ny-z1LtM&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSPT7Jrd_-E
Here are some additional photos of my install. This is the toyota universal specific model (200mmx100mm) not the double din universal model. It is installed in a Scion FR-S
Base car home launcher that sits on top of the android launcher (see video for better understanding)
Built in radio app
Torque works - obviously its not working in this video... just to display the obd2 reader that goes with the app
Settings showing obd2 reader attached via bluetooth (device is NOT rooted, this works out of the box)
Launcher behind car home - customized with car widget and play music widget
Installing an App
Angry Birds Demo, lol
Running Torque:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSv-3fKBmls&feature=youtu.be
Overall Performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_HheZ9aJ1c&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tvs8GQVZiE&feature=youtu.be
Great. I was going to say I found a guy on youtube posting all these videos. I think that's you. Cheers.
Would you know if it's possible to hook up a USB OBD2 adaptor?
Also any chance you've a photo of the back of the unit? Just wondering what kind of connections are available.
How much data do you think youre using daily?
Charlie Whiskey said:
Great. I was going to say I found a guy on youtube posting all these videos. I think that's you. Cheers.
Would you know if it's possible to hook up a USB OBD2 adaptor?
Also any chance you've a photo of the back of the unit? Just wondering what kind of connections are available.
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That'd be me.
I wouldn't bet on a usb obd2 adaptor working, but why bother - when you can get a bluetooth one from them that will work (i have a feeling a generic one will also work). Just go the bluetooth route. If you saw my videos on youtube, they do work - well.
Here is a back of the unit:
Here is the wiring and what came with it
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aznminivan said:
How much data do you think youre using daily?
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honestly - not much. i mostly use Waze and google play music.
realistically its no different than your phone - but keep in mind you're only using it for the time periods you're in the car.
I had a dedicated hotspot in one of my old cars with a ca-fi unit - on a 5gb plan, downloading podcasts, constantly streaming, and using it heavily on a 2 hour daily commute - i never came close to using half of my plan
More Qs for you Leadguy,
1) Have you tried side loading applications?
2) How well did it work with Google Play Store out of the box?
3) Can you listen to music (or radio) and have voice navigation (google map or dedicated offline app) at the same time?
4) Noob question - all those RCA connectors, does it mean I'll need an amp as well and can't connect the unit directly to the speakers? I'm really not that picky with audio and would like to avoid the complexity if possible...
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More Qs for you Leadguy,
1) Have you tried side loading applications?
2) How well did it work with Google Play Store out of the box?
3) Can you listen to music (or radio) and have voice navigation (google map or dedicated offline app) at the same time?
4) Noob question - all those RCA connectors, does it mean I'll need an amp as well and can't connect the unit directly to the speakers? I'm really not that picky with audio and would like to avoid the complexity if possible...
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1. Yes sideloading applications works just as any pure google device. No hiccups.
2. Play store works 100% as expected.
3. Yes, music of any sort will work perfectly WITH voice navigation. It will fade in and out very nicely between sources (music vs navigation).
4. no need for an external amp, it has a 45w x 4 speaker amp internally. It does provide the option of external amps if preferred though.
leadguy68 said:
1. Yes sideloading applications works just as any pure google device. No hiccups.
2. Play store works 100% as expected.
3. Yes, music of any sort will work perfectly WITH voice navigation. It will fade in and out very nicely between sources (music vs navigation).
4. no need for an external amp, it has a 45w x 4 speaker amp internally. It does provide the option of external amps if preferred though.
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Do you have steering wheel controls in your car? If so, do they still work; or do you know if there is an option for them to work?
@leadguy68
Thanks for your information, I'm also looking to buy this unit but just wondering if you install this yourself into your Scion or did you get it professionally installed? If you installed yourself, did you have to modify your dash at all? I'm curious to know because I have the same car, 2013 86gt.
Also wanted to know the following:
Does the GPS work well?
Have you tried hooking up a portable hard drive to this unit?
Does it have usb connectors on the back of unit so that we can drag cable to the glove compartment and hide hard drive or ipod?
Does it play hd movies without probs?
Does the hands free calling work well? I drive alot for work and make heaps of calls in the car or do u need a ext mic?
Have you installed the rear camera? If so, does it work well?
How's the navigation through folders for music?
Have u tried rooting the unit yet?
Do you think the speakers in the Scion need upgrading?
Do you know if we need to buy any other accessories for this unit apart from obd II interface to run torque?
Appreciate your help.
netchemica said:
Do you have steering wheel controls in your car? If so, do they still work; or do you know if there is an option for them to work?
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My car doesn't have steering wheel controls unfortunately. BUT it does have the option to wire them in if you have them.
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Changy8 said:
@leadguy68
Thanks for your information, I'm also looking to buy this unit but just wondering if you install this yourself into your Scion or did you get it professionally installed? If you installed yourself, did you have to modify your dash at all? I'm curious to know because I have the same car, 2013 86gt.
Also wanted to know the following:
Does the GPS work well?
Have you tried hooking up a portable hard drive to this unit?
Does it have usb connectors on the back of unit so that we can drag cable to the glove compartment and hide hard drive or ipod?
Does it play hd movies without probs?
Does the hands free calling work well? I drive alot for work and make heaps of calls in the car or do u need a ext mic?
Have you installed the rear camera? If so, does it work well?
How's the navigation through folders for music?
Have u tried rooting the unit yet?
Do you think the speakers in the Scion need upgrading?
Do you know if we need to buy any other accessories for this unit apart from obd II interface to run torque?
Appreciate your help.
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Hey! See my full review for the GT86 at http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62619 That will give you most of the info you need!
Install took literally 15 minutes, no need for a professional. its dead simple.
1. GPS is solid, locks nearly immediately
2. Yep hard drives work without a hitch.
3 it has two usb cables more than long enough to route to the glove box. one for Wifi, one for a hard drive or usb drive.
4. HD movies work great, depending on the app you play them with, they are hiccup free
5. hands free calling works, and works great. the built in mic is pretty decent.
6 no rear camera for me, i have one to install - but no time to set it up.
7. folder navigation is just like any other android device. no big deal!
8 no need to root the device honestly. it does everything i'd need from a car stereo and then some without hacking
9. the stock speakers work - i plan to upgrade eventually though.
10. no other accessories needed to run torque other than the bluetooth obd2 reader.
Thanks Leadguy68.
Your email response is most useful.
Looks like im going to pull the trigger on this one.
Now I got to wait for delivery to Australia.
Planning to upgrade the speakers as well.
@leadguy,
If you've installed your reverse camera, can you please find out whether it's possible to manually select the camera view without going into reverse?
I found this really cool 4-cameras bird's eye view park assist system and one of its feature is to automatically activate the side camera when the turn indicator comes on. Of course then I can't depend on the Dashlinq's reverse wire to turn on the camera view for me.
Charlie Whiskey said:
@leadguy,
If you've installed your reverse camera, can you please find out whether it's possible to manually select the camera view without going into reverse?
I found this really cool 4-cameras bird's eye view park assist system and one of its feature is to automatically activate the side camera when the turn indicator comes on. Of course then I can't depend on the Dashlinq's reverse wire to turn on the camera view for me.
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As best as I can tell there isn't a way to manually select it - but don't take that to the bank. I don't have a camera installed currently with the unit.
Worst case - what you could do is wire the reverse wire that triggers the reverse camera on the screen to a toggle switch in the car and trigger it that way. Easy work around :good:
I wonder if you can hook up a remote control to this unit, I'm assuming this unit does not come with a remote?
Changy8 said:
I wonder if you can hook up a remote control to this unit, I'm assuming this unit does not come with a remote?
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This unit does not directly support a remote control
BUT there are aftermarket remote controls that can be wired to the steering wheel control functionality on this unit. That may be a route you could take for that functionality.
Your part 1 of 3 of your walk thru on YouTube is missing. Can you repost it?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
I've came from different Android headunit threads, and so far this is the best one, and more important it has the best support.
Also, it has stand by mode which others doesn't.
The developers at Ca-Fi made a great work integrating non-Android devices seamlessly into the operating system itself. Too bad you couldn't test steering wheel controls with third party apps like Google Play Music.
Does the system have video out for headrest?
If so , does it have dualzone? As in continue to play video on these headrest while navigating GPS or something?
So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first. Would be cool if it could see okay this guy has Netflix and Plex let's give him recommendations on those and also I'm not a fan with how it is laid out. Maybe I'm just to adjusted to how the Roku works.
I am hoping (but not holding my breath on the first one) for amazon video, hbo go, and a few others support. That or maybe google should adapt a subscription service like prime instead of paying to buy or rent everything. I would also like to see more support for it on here as well.
djwyman said:
I am hoping (but not holding my breath on the first one) for amazon video, hbo go, and a few others support. That or maybe google should adapt a subscription service like prime instead of paying to buy or rent everything. I would also like to see more support for it on here as well.
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i havn't tried it yet, but you can probably install hbo go thru play.google.com or by sideloading it. same is prob true for amazon video app
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i havn't tried it yet, but you can probably install hbo go thru play.google.com or by sideloading it. same is prob true for amazon video app
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I tried side loading amazon...it was a no go. HBO won't install from the play.google.com onto it but I have not yet tried it side loaded though. Which for me it wouldn't matter until HBO does their new subscription thing next year, it was more of a hey these things would make it more useful and competitive with other tv boxes out right now.
To clairfy amazon would install just fine however it would force close when trying to play a video right after it warns you about the device not using davilk (probably misspelled but that cache we all used to have to clear before installing new roms and such)
You can cast HBO Go w/ your mobile device. Not the same as a full blown app, but it works just like chromecast.
I got Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime Music to work.
First you will need to have sideloaded chrome and es file explorer.
Also, you will need to have a usb otg cable and a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Once you have those things you can navigate to apkmirror.com and download the amazon apk's.
I used es file explorer's downloader to download them.
Once installed, you can open them by using Chainfire's sideload launcher or from settings.
bbb0487 said:
I got Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime Music to work.
First you will need to have sideloaded chrome and es file explorer.
Also, you will need to have a usb otg cable and a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Once you have those things you can navigate to apkmirror.com and download the amazon apk's.
I used es file explorer's downloader to download them.
Once installed, you can open them by using Chainfire's sideload launcher or from settings.
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I had them installed but for me the video one would crash as soon as I would try to play a video. Are the ones on apkmirror.com different than the ones on the amazon appstore?
djwyman said:
I had them installed but for me the video one would crash as soon as I would try to play a video. Are the ones on apkmirror.com different than the ones on the amazon appstore?
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Nevermind, I just tryed played a video and had the same problem.
jtboyz01 said:
So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first.
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The relative lack of posts here on XDA tells me that Nexus Player is not (yet) popular among "Android enthusiasts".
I think enthusiasm will grow, but many people may wait for a 2nd or 3rd generation device. Currently, there are complaints that it doesn't have an ethernet port, among other shortcomings at present.
I don't know if interest will pick up from "regular people". If Google had a good ad/commercial (on "normal" TV of course, LOL), sales could be good.
At present, custom ROM etc. development is slow/stalled. What other Nexus device came out that hasn't been properly rooted yet ? I hope and assume Chainfire will get us going better soon.
So far we can unlock bootloader and get a root adb shell. I'm not sure if the default popups for SuperSU work OK on TV yet. And x86 and 64 bit support ?
So,... I'm not sure that current NP will have much commercial success. But IMO there is very good potential for the future.
I am personally interested in "testing the waters" of app development on this Player. I have no interest at this time in any non-Android devices, simply because I have "hitched my wagon" in the 100% Android development camp.
It will be popular imo. Just not enough out there...
volwrath said:
It will be popular imo. Just not enough out there...
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I think the platform will be a little more wide spread once it starts getting used in other boxes and tvs. Right now these and the adt-1 (which only a hand full of people have) and hopefully once these other devices get out there it will make more developers get interested in it.
jtboyz01 said:
So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player?
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jtboyz01 said:
So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first. Would be cool if it could see okay this guy has Netflix and Plex let's give him recommendations on those and also I'm not a fan with how it is laid out. Maybe I'm just to adjusted to how the Roku works.
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It will go in the dust bin... I have already gone back to my Roku 3 due to issues that I am having with NP and also Plex. This will also be the last "nexus" product that I buy. The things that Google pushes out seem to be in perpetual beta and I can't have that any more.
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants!
AndroidTVTech1 said:
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants!
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You seem a bit mad. Does the truth hurt? Roku is doing something right. They have sold 10 million units. Nexus player? No idea, but I can guess it's nowhere near that. You also have articles coming out like this for the NP: Google’s Nexus Player: More prototype than finished product
Nexus player can't even connect to 5.0ghz wireless (RT-N66U). ALL other devices on my network (including this PC) work fine on 5.0Ghz. I assume you don't use Plex at all on NP as the video pauses every 20 minutes or so. I even saw someone on the Plex forum that was using MediaBrowser 3 (on NP) having the same issue. It makes me think that this is not an issue with Plex and MediaBrowser, but something with the NP itself otherwise why would two different apps have the same issue on the same platform?
I don't know about you, but I want a device that simply works. NP has a very nice UI, but not everything is working nicely. This has nothing to do with not knowing what I am doing. NP is meant to be a plug and play device not something you need to tinker with in order for it to work. Other issues I have with NP are: Wi-Fi disconnects for no apparent reason, voice search is hit or miss, recommendations are a mess (maybe this is app related I am not sure), and casting sometimes stops working for no apparent reason.
The point you are trying to make about Gb speeds. Doesn't really make sense. Are you implying that NP works better if I go spend more money to get the OTG cable and a LAN port? NO THANKS! If you need a LAN port to make the device work properly it should have been included with the device.
I will be the first to admit that Roku has a pretty crappy UI, but it WORKS! I don't care how many apps Roku has. My main ones I use are Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. I sometimes load up MediaBrowser 3 to see how they are progressing with the product, but that's about it.
The last thing that doesn't seem to look good in regards to the NP is the lack of new apps coming out. There was even a recent post in this forum somewhere about it. Will developers get on board? Developer support will make/break the product. Right now the NP and ATV in general is lacking in that department. Google will need to get off of their collective asses and fix the bugs in their product and push this platform hard or it will fall flat on it's face (much like Google TV did).
Enjoy!
{lol} Enjoy your Roku made for you plug-N-play!
The next Android TV box you should be getting http://armdevices.net/2015/02/04/ge...op-android-tv-on-amlogic-and-shares-strategy/ ! Monster specs!
EcPercy is right. I own several rooted Chromecasts, a roku 3, a roku 1, and a nexus player. This is by far the least user friendly of all of them, when used normally (not casting to np). I'm still waiting on Amazon instant video. It works on my phone, why not on this? Seriously, Amazon, get on it. I don't want to end up with a paperweight, but Pluto TV and YouTube don't work right either. Buffering every 20 seconds is hardly worth my time and energy. I'm an RD here and know my way around android. I know well what I'm doing, and this device as it sits is simply not a good investment. You shouldn't have to fix something right out of the box to have it simply function as intended. I'm hoping the bugs get ironed out soon, both with Google and the individual app devs. A lot of it has to do with adding in support for lower bitrates.
EcPercy said:
You seem a bit mad. Does the truth hurt? Roku is doing something right. They have sold 10 million units. Nexus player? No idea, but I can guess it's nowhere near that. You also have articles coming out like this for the NP: Google’s Nexus Player: More prototype than finished product
Nexus player can't even connect to 5.0ghz wireless (RT-N66U). ALL other devices on my network (including this PC) work fine on 5.0Ghz. I assume you don't use Plex at all on NP as the video pauses every 20 minutes or so. I even saw someone on the Plex forum that was using MediaBrowser 3 (on NP) having the same issue. It makes me think that this is not an issue with Plex and MediaBrowser, but something with the NP itself otherwise why would two different apps have the same issue on the same platform?
I don't know about you, but I want a device that simply works. NP has a very nice UI, but not everything is working nicely. This has nothing to do with not knowing what I am doing. NP is meant to be a plug and play device not something you need to tinker with in order for it to work. Other issues I have with NP are: Wi-Fi disconnects for no apparent reason, voice search is hit or miss, recommendations are a mess (maybe this is app related I am not sure), and casting sometimes stops working for no apparent reason.
The point you are trying to make about Gb speeds. Doesn't really make sense. Are you implying that NP works better if I go spend more money to get the OTG cable and a LAN port? NO THANKS! If you need a LAN port to make the device work properly it should have been included with the device.
I will be the first to admit that Roku has a pretty crappy UI, but it WORKS! I don't care how many apps Roku has. My main ones I use are Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. I sometimes load up MediaBrowser 3 to see how they are progressing with the product, but that's about it.
The last thing that doesn't seem to look good in regards to the NP is the lack of new apps coming out. There was even a recent post in this forum somewhere about it. Will developers get on board? Developer support will make/break the product. Right now the NP and ATV in general is lacking in that department. Google will need to get off of their collective asses and fix the bugs in their product and push this platform hard or it will fall flat on it's face (much like Google TV did).
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Agreed. I've got about 3 weeks to toy with it before off back to Amazon it goes. I kind of figured the return shipping would be worth a shot to see if it had any potential but as it sits, I don't know.
I absolutely LOVE the Plex interface with lollipop for TV's its easily the nicest of any Plex app including the Plexbmc with Amber, which doesn't work with the puck either I might add. Google has been disappointing me to no end lately, the N9's quality issues, the N6's availability issues, now this. Grrrr.
I just can't fathom how the Android TV "team" can release a device that can't play video nearly as well as their own $25 Chromecast dongle! I have two of those and they play everything I throw at them without a hitch.
What's telling as well is that the Fire stick has issues with Plex playing 1080 content too. I wonder if the new Razer box will be any better?
AndroidTVTech1 said:
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants![/QUOTE
I respect your knowledge of Android,many people do not have your abilities . But if Google was to depend on the average customer to have your abilities I'm afraid it would be short lived? Most people expect a product to function out of the box, if you wish to modify thats your choice. It should not be a requirement? Please remember that some monitor this forum to learn from developers such as yourself. A little patience and respect goes a long way :good:
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The only thing nice about the nexus player is the UI and it's potential. KODI is nice. I am hoping for a remote-friendly popcorn time to satisfy me, but development for NP is so weak. If it had hbo go, and showtime anytime, those are basic apps it should have just to be on the same level as it's competitors. But since it has come out, how many new apps have you seen show up in the play store? 2? 3? I always go to the device play store in hopes they finally get their shhit together. Android always has a habit of releasing something new and amazing and then neglecting it.
on my s5 when i played a video i had the small icon on the top of the player when i hit it i could stream it to my tv or xbox ect.
i read that The video player has been simplified too and the DLNA view is gone. You can still send video files to DLNA players or use screen mirroring.
how do you send the video to dlna players now ?
the only way i can find to do this is to open quick connect then select the files i want to play then stream them, less then ideal and slow at going through the multiple steps.
bUMP ... in the night ....
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The S6 isn't officially supported for screen casting yet. Expect to see see that icon return to the stock player then. I have been trying to play with chromecast screen casting and it is crashing constantly. Hopefully they update the chromecast app soon. As for DLNA I haven't seen an option For it in the stock software, grab bubbleupnp from the play and you can stream again.
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The S6 isn't officially supported for screen casting yet. Expect to see see that icon return to the stock player then. I have been trying to play with chromecast screen casting and it is crashing constantly. Hopefully they update the chromecast app soon. As for DLNA I haven't seen an option For it in the stock software, grab bubbleupnp from the play and you can stream again.
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ya hoping they bring back that icon to the stock player , i ben useing bubbleupnp but much prefer stock dlna icon , thanks for the info.
hmm As for DLNA does any 5.0x devices have it working ? guessing no
So? any idea if dlna is gonna be Supported on s6?
In the video player, hit More->Share->View Content On.
flu13 said:
In the video player, hit More->Share->View Content On.
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Hi guys. On my old Galaxy S5 in the video player i was able to see and play movies directly from an external HDD connected to the router (nearby devices tab). Now on my new Galaxy S6 Edge i can't do that anymore. Someone knows how can i see and play movies form the external HDD connected to an Asus router? Thanks!
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In the video player, hit More->Share->View Content On.
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No that doesnt work. I confirm no dlna on s6 after 5.1.1 upgrade.
Looks its a strategy of samsung because note 4 doesnt have dlna as well (and didnget it long after launch).
But no one seems to care about here? Im pretty decieved , but now sony are making great phones. I will trade mine for z4 or 5 if i find the oppurtunity
Bye samsung
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Lancer-AM said:
The S6 isn't officially supported for screen casting yet. Expect to see see that icon return to the stock player then. I have been trying to play with chromecast screen casting and it is crashing constantly. Hopefully they update the chromecast app soon. As for DLNA I haven't seen an option For it in the stock software, grab bubbleupnp from the play and you can stream again.
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Note 4 doesnt yet have it and was launched sept 2014. No it was dropped on purpse by samsung. Sadly i didnt know that before i bought s6 . No review mentionned it because it strangely dsnt look important for most users i assume.
Download a 3rd party app like Skifta! It worked on an older phone. It's the best dlna app.
3ayachi said:
No that doesnt work. I confirm no dlna on s6 after 5.1.1 upgrade.
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As fun as it is to be indirectly told I'm either A) wrong or B) lying, I promise you that this works on my S6 after the 5.1.1 upgrade. I use it all the time. Maybe it's carrier-specific? What carrier are you on? What video app are you using?
And when you say "That doesn't work" (tech support person's dream), what do you mean? Do you not see the option? Do you see the option, but no destination? Do you see the destination, but the content doesn't transfer?
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As fun as it is to be indirectly told I'm either A) wrong or B) lying, I promise you that this works on my S6 after the 5.1.1 upgrade. I use it all the time. Maybe it's carrier-specific? What carrier are you on? What video app are you using?
And when you say "That doesn't work" (tech support person's dream), what do you mean? Do you not see the option? Do you see the option, but no destination? Do you see the destination, but the content doesn't transfer?
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Sorry for the misunderstand, I dont want to tell you are lying. The option exists but it doent work with windows media player on my pc (that is my only use of dlna since i have no connected tv ..) with the exact same configuration that used to work with my s4
Im under 5.1.1 / 920f / windows 10 / wmp
So could you tell if it works with your pc ?
Moreover samsung didnt mention its dlna support at launch (wich i thought they simply forgot such a basic feature ) neither announced it was back wih 5.1.1
Sorry again for any bad impression i left earlier.
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Sorry again for any bad impression i left earlier.
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Thanks, and no worries. My response was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
I think the problem stems from you asking about something different from the initial question. The initial question was how to send content from the phone to the TV, which is what I answered, and which does work, and which is, I believe, DLNA.
What you seem to be asking about is how to view content from your PC on your phone. I'll admit that I had a mighty struggle with that, even on the S4, so I have never tried it with the S6. If you got it working on the S4, you're already a step ahead of me. I never bothered with trying to do it on the S6, and if I want to view content on my phone, I just transfer it over either by hooking up a cable or by using FileDrop, although the latter is kind of slow.
Now I can be more precise about my problem. I can't share content between WMP under windows 10 and my S6 , thing that I did easily with my S4 with the same configuration.
I thought first that it was due to DLNA incompatibility since it was not present in the S6 launch. But now I tried on a smart TV and it works great. Still though I can't detect my phone with WMP and vice versa. I think that is DLNA as well so no reason it doesn't work.
If someone can do than it should come from my settings. Otherwise It's something samsung deleted.
Edit: third party DLNA apps work well.. so the problem is with samsung video app. What a shame they drop such options!
So the unit is a power house no doubt. But I have found it to be very lacking and frustrating when it comes to available streaming media apps.
First it had to update to get Netflix. Then in order to get Crunchyroll I had to side load it from my PC. The option to sideload things like Amazon Instant Video, HBO GO, Disney XD (me and the kids got to get our Rebels) either aren't there or this device is listed as incompatable even after I have set it to allow "Unknown Sources". I did find an apk for AIV here on XDA but haven't installed it yet. Also, when you do get apps installed via apk they don't show on the main screen and there is no option to add it. You have to go through 3 or 4 screens to find it. Does any one have any advice for getting these streaming services on this box and making it less frustrating to use? Thanks
The store only shows apps that are leanback apps but if you go to the store on a browser you can install most apps to your shield from there and use a sideload launcher to launch them on the shield. Not every app works with a controller but i've had good luck for the most part.
I did try doing it via a browser, Chrome even, and they still do not install. I also have the remote for it and that works.
No worries. I've decided to return it anyway. Will just wait for Roku 4 or maybe the next version of Nexus TV.
Thanks
Im a little disappointed too but what else do you expect from google smdh
I'm not dissapointed at all. This is probably the new benchmark that all future android devices will be measured against. I accept that the play store is limited because it has only been out for about 6 weeks and this device is a little more work right now. But it will get better, I'm sure.
Go ahead and get that next generation roku, and i hope you can enjoy that locked-down experience. I know I wouldnt like it.
It's new, apps and streaming services will be added as time goes on. Roku is the king of streaming channels, but no Kodi, essentially no games, locked down, and it's future doesn't look very bright unless they jump on the Android bandwagon.
Amazon FireTV is a better option, a bit more locked down than nSATV/AndroidTV, but as it's been out longer than Android TV it does support more streaming apps as well as a fairly decent selection of casual games. I'd say it's probably the best option today if nothing else was ever released for any device ever.
nVidia Shield Android TV has the best hardware of any microconsole streaming device, and IMHO AndroidTV holds the most promise of the OS options. It's new but off to a good start. I can understand being disappointed, but maybe expectations area bit unrealistic. Patience, give it some time. The exception of course is games. There really are no other options for using a streaming media microconsole to replace a dedicated gaming console, and for some people this device can do just that.
Anyone tried screen cast without WiFi network to a Smart TV? If yes kindly help me with the way out.
Coz my counterparts can do it with every other phones ( Xioami, Samsung etc...) very easily. But the same is not possible as I found out that option is not available through pixel phones. Is that info correct?
Pretty much every phone and TV supports "MirrorCast".
But the Pixel 4a only support "ChromeCast", so it can only cast to a chrome stick or other chromecast compatible device (many TV's don't support chromecast)
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Pretty much every phone and TV supports "MirrorCast".
But the Pixel 4a only support "ChromeCast", so it can only cast to a chrome stick or other chromecast compatible device (many TV's don't support chromecast)
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Thanks bro... But is there any way to do? If yes pls let me know...
I tried very hard to find a solution, but NG.
BEWARE, a lot of apps in the play store will "say" they will allow your phone to do mirrorcast, but ALL of them simply bring you to the "cast" settings in your phone, and most phones do support mirrorcast so it will seem like the app works. But on pixel phones, these apps will simply bring you to the chrome cast settings.
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I tried very hard to find a solution, but NG.
BEWARE, a lot of apps in the play store will "say" they will allow your phone to do mirrorcast, but ALL of them simply bring you to the "cast" settings in your phone, and most phones do support mirrorcast so it seems like the app works. But on pixel phones, these apps will simply bring you to the chrome cast settings.
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Thanks brother