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[Q] DEAD Sensation...

I've had my Sensation for a week or so now... rebooted it earlier on, and now it's totally dead. Won't power up, won't charge, or anything.
Any recommendations of anything to try that I might not have tried? I've got a good background in this kind of technology, so I've tried the usual stuff - battery removal, leaving plugged in, holding buttons for longer etc...
Is there a trick that anyone's found?
If not, should I go back to '3' to replace it... or should I go to HTC and see if they'll replace with a nice S-OFF unit??
Thoughts please?

volume down and power button together and see if you can get recovery screen up and do a factory reset

Hi Gavin
Sadly it needs something more than that - that was the first thing I tried, thinking it might be software related.
Even tried leaving the battery out overnight before trying again, that didn't work.
What I have found, now, is that if I plug in the charger FIRST, and THEN connect the battery, I get an orange LED. I thought this might mean it is charging, but no, because when I unplug the charger again, the orange LED stays lit, and remains so until the battery is removed again.
I don't recommend trying this yourself, because it does say somewhere in the literature, NOT to apply power, without the battery being in place. I just figured, it's already dead, so it might do something different!
What I'd like to know / find out, is if there's a real "hardware" reset switch/button... my Toshiba TG01 had some hidden PCB pads which would allow different booting modes, etc... somethign like that I think it needs. I'm going to have to get a new one ANYWAY, but it'd be good to know what happened to this one, first!!

Sounds like a hardware issue to me (maybe motherboard failed, that was an issue with all previous HTC devices)

Put it on charge without the battery. Now with a paperclip hit the +- pins for a second. After that unplug it and put battery in and normally charge it. Friend of mine did this with his Sonyericsson and it worked. Otherwise send it back to htc.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

Ok, I've spoken to HTC, and as it's within the first 28 days, the onus is on 3UK (Hutchinson3G) to replace the handset.
Spent over an hour in store with them this morning, trying various things, and they decided that they would replace the handset. Except they then realised that they won't replace handsets which were from 3 'direct'.
So, I figured, can't hurt to try the 'shorting' method - I would again, out of a background in electronics, say DO NOT TRY THIS METHOD, UNLESS IT'S A LAST RESORT! IT COULD SERIOUSLY DAMAGE THINGS.
Now, instead of a constant orange light, I've got a flashing orange light.
Still no actual operational power though.

Thinking about it
This reminds me of a laptop I used to have - it had a "Quick Boot" feature which relied on stuff in the boot-area of the hard drive. Back then, I had a 'less-than-legitimate' copy of Windows 7, which used a boot-modifier to work as "genuine".
That laptop would, on occasion, refuse to power up for hours, and sometimes days at a time - and I traced that down to it being an issue relating to the loader software in the boot area of the HDD.
I wonder if this is a similar issue on the Sensation - an exception in the "quick boot" that makes it think there's still quick-boot data, even though there isn't, because the battery's been out. It's all hypothetical, but interesting to know how these things tick.
And who knows, maybe 3UK will send me an S-OFF unit in replacement.

i honestly dont know why you would try shorting your phone thats still under warranty. Are you trying not only to fix your phone, but also void your still current warranty?
take it back. get it replaced, and stop trying mcgyver tricks. Its just not needed.

Leigh,
Thanks for your concern for my handset. Personally I'd say having a brand-new, week-old handset to fail completely and spectacularly is 'not needed', either (!) But, really, any of the above actions, which were given to me in good faith, were up to me to use, or not use. I made a calculated decision based on i) the current level of operability of the handset ii) the likelihood of any action taken voiding the warranty iii) the likelihood of my receiving a new handset under said warranty. I hoped I made it clear enough that anyone who would even THINK to consider performing the above procedure would also make such a calculated decision.
I don't know who McGyver is, but you'll notice that I did put a warning in my post stating that others shouldn't try it... chances are it would cause damage to the phone's power management, at the very least, it's cause wear on the voltage regulation side.
That said, there are times when simply shorting devices *can* work as said devices can hold small amounts of charge which can be dissipated with a short, a reverse polarity or otherwise. The cavaets being - a) it's already totally and completely dead, short of it going in flames, it cannot be made worse; b) the shorting (or other action) is momentary - the smallest fraction of a second.
Yes, it's under warranty. Yes, they're going to replace it. If we wanted to go into the whole matter of ethics, *if* I were the manufacturer, and I had proof that someone had done the above steps to their handset, NO, I would not honour the warranty. But I'm not, they don't, the handset already more-than-likely has a mainboard failure, so I was prepared to take the risk.
Eventually, the Service Manual for the device will be released, and this will help with matters of apparent hardware failure. In the meantime, it's a learning curve for everyone, and if I could help that curve at all with my dead handset, in the knowledge that a new one is coming, that's what I hoped to do.
Again, for all clarity, safety, etc. I am not advocating, or recommending the actions detailed above, or ANY other action other than in accordance with the user manual which was provided to you with your device. Do ANY of the above STRICTLY at your own risk, and on your head be it.
If anyone else has any ideas - "McGyver" or otherwise (who is he?!) - that won't obviously cause warranty-replacement issues, I would be happy to try them in the hope of furthering the knowledge of this new device. I'm grateful for any help, and for any chance to increase the small amount of knowledge we already have on this device.

McGyver is a character in an old American TV show from the 80's.He always got into impossible situations and always had some tricks up his sleeve like making a laser out of a package of gum,a paperclip,and a match.
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maybe it's the battery
I hat the same problem on my TG01, at the end it came out the Li-ion was all draind and my TG01 would not Charge it anymore.
not eaven in an external Charger
New battery was the only solution.
Maybe it's the same problem you have.

Hi GhostRider
I remember the days of the TG01 - turned out a decent handset, in the end.
I'd hope it's not a faulty battery on a week-old handset - although I don't have another battery to test it with, so I suppose it's possible that it was manufactured as faulty.
My new handset replacement arrives on Tuesday though... but I'll keep checking here to see if anyone wants me to do anything with this one in the mean time.

Had my first Sensation for a week and then it beeped and died just like yours. All I did was swap the battery and plug in the charger. Still nothing. Called TMO and got a replacement.
I think even if you managed to do CPR and get it back up the fact it died in the first place indicates a serious problem. Personally I'd rather have one that's reliable.

I would be excited if my sensation bricked, I've been trying to brick it for a few days. sadly no luck. If it is bricked tmobile atleast will replace it with another, that's atleast another chance at getting s-off.
Mine did what yours did the other day. I thought it was ****ed. I took battery out for 5 and after that put it in and charged for ten minutes. Sadly, it worked fine after that.

samnada said:
Still nothing. Called TMO and got a replacement.
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s-off i hope?

My replacement is due around 1330h (UK time) today.
I'll let you know the status of the new phone when it comes.
I'd bet a beer it's *STILL* S-ON though...
Here's hoping!!

Ok, my new Sensation has arrived.
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.17-0011
eMMC-boot
Jun 2 2011,22:31.39
Oh well. At least there's perma-temp-root for now
I've followed this course to its natural end, however, I appear not to be the only one with the 'dying sensation' problem... so might be good to keep this thread alive?
Cheers all

[Q] Last hope: Desire S stuck in bootloader S-on

Hello,
My Desire S froze when updating Skype 2 weeks ago.
Removed battery. Phone stuck on HTC logo.
Went to bootloader for hard reset. When hard rest chosen phone freezes.
Went to recovery, phone starts recovery. Black screen, green icon. Then goes dark. Starts to vibrate 6-7 times. Then remains off. Battery out, battery in. Back to HTC logo again.
Laptop recognized phone when plugged in with fastboot mode. Under device manager (win 7) "HTC phone".
I bought the phone in Thailand, but am now in Philippines where there is no HTC repair center.
I managed to find RUU_Saga_HTC_Thailand_1.35.1113.2_Radio_20.28d.30.0805U_3805.04.02.01_M_release_183327_signed
Which matches my phone. However when trying to install the rom, the above app freezes on "restarting bootloader". I've left it there for over an hour.
I've tried ADB, but it's not picking up the phone.
I'm guessing either of the above can't load, as the phone is S-on.
But I cannot go S-off as I can't get the phone to boot, or any of the above software to find the phone. Again, windows is picking up that there's a HTC phone plugged in.
I've tried everything I know, and am at my wits end into thinking the phone is finished.
Can anyone help with something I may have overlooked, or have a suggestion to bring this back to life?
Thanks

It's most probably a hardware problem. There's a high chance that your phone's emmc chip is fried when u remove the battery. it's common in htc due to the phone design. My phone encountered same thing 2 weeks ago. sent for repair and they change the mainboard. I was lucky they ignored that my phone was S-on(warranty voided)

I was thinking hardware last week after everything was failing. But as it was still booting to fastloader, and being picked up via usb was holding out hope it might just be the s-on preventing me from putting on a new rom. And not a mainboard gone.
Flying back to Thailand for the warranty would cost the same as buying a new phone ...
If taking a battery out when a phone is frozen fries a mainboard on HTC ... I doubt I will buy one again.
Looking at Galaxy 2. But also having doubts due to wifi reports and overheating screen. Can't afford another dud smartphone.
If anyone's got anything else to get this thing up to see if the mainboard is indeed dead, or it's something else, do make a suggestion please!

I have same problem like this before and it's really pain in the a#$. Also, there is one HTC service center here in the Philippines, check it out on HTC site.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

Thanks MarlX
Yes, I've been in touch with HTC repair center in Manila via phone and email. I've been waiting for reply for over one week now!
I'm not in Manila, which would mean using fedex to send it up to them. Then bank transfer to pay for repair and shipping back.
If it is the Motherboard that's gone, all the above will probably cost more than a new phone
But I won't know until HTC Manila actually bother to reply!?!

so what was the Problem is it becoz of Skype?

no,this problem happens if you pull the battery out when installing apps
the emmc chip is probably dead,if so you need to send it for warranty or replace the emmc chip yourself

Well unfortunately, when updating the skype app, the phone froze. As in no buttons working, phone getting hot etc.
What else is there to do but take the battery out?
Either way, to have a "premium" phone like the HTC Desire S, burn out a chip, or indeed have a popular app causing it to brick etc is simply not good enough.
More over the support center refusing to reply back.
It simply means they've lost another customer.
The phone, when working, was wonderful. Looking at the Galaxy S 2 today, by all accounts a "better" phone, and it was sad. As, for me, the HTC Desire S was much more preferable.
Except of course for it's 6 week lifespan ... bad customer care etc

Just to bad that you did not bought it here. My phone died two months ago (used it only for a month), sent it to the store and they've sent it to service center (in Manila). Had to wait for a month for them to fix it. Motherboard issues I think. Good thing I still have warranty.
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DDesires said:
Well unfortunately, when updating the skype app, the phone froze. As in no buttons working, phone getting hot etc.
What else is there to do but take the battery out?
Either way, to have a "premium" phone like the HTC Desire S, burn out a chip, or indeed have a popular app causing it to brick etc is simply not good enough.
More over the support center refusing to reply back.
It simply means they've lost another customer.
The phone, when working, was wonderful. Looking at the Galaxy S 2 today, by all accounts a "better" phone, and it was sad. As, for me, the HTC Desire S was much more preferable.
Except of course for it's 6 week lifespan ... bad customer care etc
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yeah,this is really bad
but mine has been working for 3months without any problem,& the customer support here is good
if you dont mind voiding the warranty you can buy a eMMC & replace it yourself
if you do so you wont get this problem again
refer this thread for more info

There is software "hard" reset option. Instead of pulling the battery out, press all hardware buttons together (vol up, vol down, power button) and phone will reboot. I said this many times before in many topics: never pull out your battery when the phone is on. I learned it the hard way.
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kartkk said:
if you dont mind voiding the warranty you can buy a eMMC & replace it yourself
if you do so you wont get this problem again
refer this thread for more info
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Thanks kartkk. I wouldn't know where to begin with the physical replacement of the eMMC chip. Not even sure I can buy one around here.
I might call HTC Thailand and ask if I can send it to them via DHL or the like.

Numline1 said:
There is software "hard" reset option. Instead of pulling the battery out, press all hardware buttons together (vol up, vol down, power button) and phone will reboot. I said this many times before in many topics: never pull out your battery when the phone is on. I learned it the hard way.
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maybe you should ask HTC to write that in big red writing on the back of their batteries as they start to reach burn your finger stage when the phone freezes.
Or maybe copy Nokia's hardware which is near on indestructible.
Quite simply, I am not a phone tech person. I'm a simple end user.
I've not had a problem taking a battery out of other phones.
Again, if taking a battery out of a phone kills it when it freezes, then quite simply the phone is not good enough. Or, if it is likely to. Then, again, in big writing for simple folk like me, big red writing on the battery saying
"don't take this out, even if it starts to feel like it's going to melt"

BTW if anyone can point me to a step-by-step on how to determine if the eMMC chip is fried or not, I would appreciate it.
I read the above link. But don't know how to get to that stage!

Apologies I see he was connecting via adb-shell. I've tried connecting via adb and it's not seeing the phone....
Which I think is half the problem.

DDesires said:
maybe you should ask HTC to write that in big red writing on the back of their batteries as they start to reach burn your finger stage when the phone freezes.
Or maybe copy Nokia's hardware which is near on indestructible.
Quite simply, I am not a phone tech person. I'm a simple end user.
I've not had a problem taking a battery out of other phones.
Again, if taking a battery out of a phone kills it when it freezes, then quite simply the phone is not good enough. Or, if it is likely to. Then, again, in big writing for simple folk like me, big red writing on the battery saying
"don't take this out, even if it starts to feel like it's going to melt"
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try searching on ebay for sandisk mmc (or any other brand just dont get the same one used on the DS)
its always dangerous to pull the power from any device which works like a pc even in a pc pulling the power out while the device is on can harm the hardware &/or software i know many people who damaged their pc from pulling the plug while its on

Best to my knowledge it was an emmc chip that was recommended to be replaced. Not an MMC.
While removing "power" abruptly from any electronic device is not recommend, one is sometimes left with no choice. Complete device freeze, no buttons working etc.
There is also a destine difference between a PC and a mobile phone. Though, it must be said from my point of view: today's Android phones, are very reminiscent of old windows 95/98 OS's in terms of stability and hardware issues.

Help! think I short circuited my g2x, can some knowledgeable people chime in please?

Hey everyone,
So basically I just put the eagles blood ics ROM on my rooted g2x and everything was working great for 3 days prior to the incident.
Basically what happened was that I found this charger lying in my kitchen and saw that it was usb equipped so I plugged it into my car and plugged a oem micro usb wire in it.
I start the car, plug my phone in (on), then put it down expecting it to charge like normal, as I went to grab my wallet as the car warmed up. A few minutes later I come back, and notice a distinct smell, like something plastic was burning?
My phone was off when I grabbed it and I unplugged it immediately. I let it cool down for a few minutes and put it back in but it refused to start and it has stayed this way for several days now.
Screen show's no signs of turning on, no clock work recovery, no signs of life with the wall charger plugged in or usb in computer. It isn't turning on so I can't use adb or anything to flash a stock ROM but it's not a software problem to begin with it seems so idunno.
The only clue I have is when I plug it in to the wall charger. If you look at the back of our exposed phone, the area with the trash can symbol X'd out and black connector with 3 prongs for the battery gets hot to the touch, anyone know if this means I shorted this area or if replacing my battery with a fresh one will bring it back to life.
See attached pics of said charger, with zero indication of voltage or brand.
Thank you for your time, I'm really bummed about this. Phone is still under warranty btw, would they replace it?

Do this
Take out the battery
hold volume down + pwr
plug in battery while holding down pwr.
Tell me if there are any signs of life! also try this without the battery and with a power cord.

Blazing angel said:
Do this
Take out the battery
hold volume down + pwr
plug in battery while holding down pwr.
Tell me if there are any signs of life! also try this without the battery and with a power cord.
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nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.

Use the warranty , since it doesnt turn on they wont be able to tell if its rooted or not, i would also check the volts that the lighter adapter is putting out to avoid burning out other devices.

samsizzle said:
nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
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It should power up without the battery, but not boot. If it doesn't then the phone is likely damaged. And, no they won't be able to tell it's rooted not that it makes a difference to them. I've personally sent in 2 rooted phones under warranty that worked without any problem what so ever.

samsizzle said:
nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
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yeah, the phone should work like normal without a battery while plugged in. looks like you fried your phone.
If you sent it out for warranty, i think its like a 90% chance that it will be covered (you would tell them that it did this with the stock charger)
But if you have the insurance (like it sounds like you do), you could tell them the truth and im almost sure you'll get it replaced without issue. you will have to pay the deductible though (like $100)
so it just depends on what you want to do (or what your conscience will let you to do)
Edit: also, Throw that charger in a volcano! you don't want to have someone pick it up and try to charge their phone (or your new one) with it again.

Klathmon said:
yeah, the phone should work like normal without a battery while plugged in. looks like you fried your phone.
If you sent it out for warranty, i think its like a 90% chance that it will be covered (you would tell them that it did this with the stock charger)
But if you have the insurance (like it sounds like you do), you could tell them the truth and im almost sure you'll get it replaced without issue. you will have to pay the deductible though (like $100)
so it just depends on what you want to do (or what your conscience will let you to do)
Edit: also, Throw that charger in a volcano! you don't want to have someone pick it up and try to charge their phone (or your new one) with it again.
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Tell them the truth either way. Its the right thing to do. People wonder why phones cost so much. Cause people lie and it drives costs up for recovery. People wonder why the world is the way it is. Cause people lie. Just be honest. No one shpuld have to pay for our mistakes.
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Tell them the truth either way. Its the right thing to do. People wonder why phones cost so much. Cause people lie and it drives costs up for recovery. People wonder why the world is the way it is. Cause people lie. Just be honest. No one shpuld have to pay for our mistakes.
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We're paying for LG and nVidia's mistakes... The world is a corrupt place. Oh well.
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thanks for all the help everyone, I guess I royally screwed something up. Hope everyone learns from my mistake to never use a cheap no name brand charger!
As for the phone, I got it for free from amazon with a contract so I'll just use my warranty and pay the deductible because it's the right thing to do as I did highly modify the phone afterall...
take care everyone

I'm so frustrated ... why has this happened again?

Alright, so this was my first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943667
And the exact same thing has just happened, again. But its worse this time.
Last time... I was watching a video and unplugged the charging cable (from the TF700 end) and it went black ...and that was IT. As described in the other thread, there was no way I could revive the unit at all, and I do believe something had shorted out - the charging light (which usually is orange while charging) wouldn't light at all. Tried all the usual tricks. No go. Returned to point of purchase and received a new unit.
10 minutes ago... same bloody thing, with the exception being, I wasn't watching a video. It was probably at about 50-60% charged if I were to guess, and it was just beside me. Took the charging cable out and walked away and of course, the screen wont turn on... COME ON! Yeah, same thing. Go back and plug it in. No orange light anymore. Reset pin: nothing. Hold down power button: nothing. No access from PC. DEAD AGAIN.
Here's why its worse this time:
1) I'm passed the 30-day return period with retail vendor.
2) I unlocked it (last weekend), and you guys know the story on this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214). I basically had to click a checkbox acknowledging me flushing my warranty down the toilet. I'm from Canada, so a squaretrade warranty (which I would have done), was not an option.
Why did I unlock it? Because since upgrading to JB, the I/O issues have been ridiculous, making it quite unusable... and I wanted to give CleanRom a try, and I did, and it was just great. It was running so freaking well at this point. I literally had just got everything the way wanted it after making the exchange not too long ago and was so happy with it.
So, yeah, why would this happen to me again? We're talking a different unit, a different charging cable /power adapter, hell... a different wall socket. Same scenario though... remove cable and BAM. I'm so frustrated at this, especially since it seems I may be out a hard earned $500 if Asus says no warranty you unlocked it. My only speculation is this. The charging port in these units has been a bit "loose". By that I mean... there's a bit of a wiggle factor when he cable is connected. I recall thinking that that's not good for long term reliability. I believe when I pulled it out, it was not a completely straight-out pull (ie: a bit of one side first). Could this possibly have anything to do with it? Could there be some design flaw to allow a short in this instance? I've not heard of any similar stories though.
Seriously pissed.
EDIT: for clarity... had the 1st one for 21 days, and the second one for 17 days.

Don't suppose you remember the exact serial numbers of both units? There could be a fault in the production line.
It sounds suspiciously like a power spike issue from the electricity net. Even if you shorted out the adapter plug, it shouldn't kill the whole device. However a power surge could fry the entire unit.
Couple of years ago we had issues with the power company, they were sending unstable voltage through the net. Ever so often it would spike, frying anything connected that wasn't behind or included a power equalizer.
You can still send it back to Asus when it's unlocked, they'll just charge you for it. I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but here in Europe the store has to offer you a mandatory 2 year warranty that means they have to take the device back when the hardware mysteriously dies. (with the exclusion of things such as water damage, drop damage and other user-induced damages.)

Yes, I would have the serial numbers... I believe they are noted on my receipts.
I don't think it's a power spike issue. The reason why is that the issue happened right after unplugging for some reason, and both times were protected by (two different) high quality surge protectors, and also I have a lot of other electronics in my place... Nothing else effected (not have it had any similar problems).
Well I guess it goes back to Asus. We don't have that mandated in store warranty here. To tell you the truth, now I'd rather just not have it now, as this has been frustrating.
ShadowLea said:
Don't suppose you remember the exact serial numbers of both units? There could be a fault in the production line.
It sounds suspiciously like a power spike issue from the electricity net. Even if you shorted out the adapter plug, it shouldn't kill the whole device. However a power surge could fry the entire unit.
Couple of years ago we had issues with the power company, they were sending unstable voltage through the net. Ever so often it would spike, frying anything connected that wasn't behind or included a power equalizer.
You can still send it back to Asus when it's unlocked, they'll just charge you for it. I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but here in Europe the store has to offer you a mandatory 2 year warranty that means they have to take the device back when the hardware mysteriously dies. (with the exclusion of things such as water damage, drop damage and other user-induced damages.)
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Does it make any noise if you plug in the power/usb cord back into the unit? Every once in a while, too often to my liking, my unit's display won't wake. Sometimes after hitting power button and touching the screen it does. Half the time, I have to just hold the power button till it reboots, which is something like sixty seconds.

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EDIT: for clarity... had the 1st one for 21 days, and the second one for 17 days.
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I thought you passed the 30 day window on the second one? But if your unlocked and they know then your screwed. Knowing Asus quality control issue, I would not do anything to break warranty unless I had an aftermarket Accidental warranty such as squaretrade or something similar. But then again, you should have known all of these risks before unlocking and accepted all the consequences good or bad. Now your options are:
1. Play dumb and go back to the store and say that Im on day 17 and my tablet suddenly stopped working and pray they dont tell you to send it to asus for a warranty fix and just give you a new one or even better your money back
2. Send it to Asus, pray they forgive you and fix it for free and make your tablet unlockable or give you the estimate on the damage since they know your tablet is out of warranty.

I worked in electronics\electrical repair for around 34 years...
This sure sounds like an ESD spike problem.
Or ungrounded-improperly grounded house wiring.

lovekeiiy said:
Does it make any noise if you plug in the power/usb cord back into the unit? Every once in a while, too often to my liking, my unit's display won't wake. Sometimes after hitting power button and touching the screen it does. Half the time, I have to just hold the power button till it reboots, which is something like sixty seconds.
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No, it is dead dead.
junrider said:
I thought you passed the 30 day window on the second one? But if your unlocked and they know then your screwed. Knowing Asus quality control issue, I would not do anything to break warranty unless I had an aftermarket Accidental warranty such as squaretrade or something similar. But then again, you should have known all of these risks before unlocking and accepted all the consequences good or bad. Now your options are:
1. Play dumb and go back to the store and say that Im on day 17 and my tablet suddenly stopped working and pray they dont tell you to send it to asus for a warranty fix and just give you a new one or even better your money back
2. Send it to Asus, pray they forgive you and fix it for free and make your tablet unlockable or give you the estimate on the damage since they know your tablet is out of warranty.
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No, not past the 30 day window on the second one, but the vendor is not very forgiving on warranty related stuff like this. I think they will follow procedure to the letter. It will have to back to asus, or in the garbage. I have no idea how much it will cost to fix. PS - I definately did look at the squaretrade warranty before doing this but they would NOT offer me coverage (in Canada) on a unit I had already purchased (only from select vendors on their list that you purchase through with their warranty).
Thats OK said:
I worked in electronics\electrical repair for around 34 years...
This sure sounds like an ESD spike problem.
Or ungrounded-improperly grounded house wiring.
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Well I'm in pretty modern loft and I think the electrical is probably fine (and I've had no other problems with my electronics, and was using surge protector -- not that that's a failsafe solution), but yeah, I'm very quite certain that it has to do with a shorting in the or ESD in the charge connector socket... and I specifically noticed the connector came out a bit sideways both times it happened (ie: not straight out - one side out a bit first). I'm pretty sure there's a design flaw here and that there's some way that he pins are shorting?? Interestingly, I found this guy's post here that has seemed to have experienced the same thing as me - TODAY, it seems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33857988&postcount=2071

Where did you buy it from?
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mike216 said:
Where did you buy it from?
I like my tablet but have read to many of these post. This will be my last experience with Asus for a couple years until the put far more priority on stability respect.
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Alright, so this was my first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943667
...unplugged the charging cable (from the TF700 end) and it went black ...and that was IT.
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I read your post two days ago and thought 'unlucky', and went about my life. Then it happened to me last night! Took it off the charger, boom, that was it. This my fourth tablet in 2012 (two Primes, two Infinities), and if I manage to get a refund on this (past my 30 days) then I'll never be going back to Asus. I've tried and tried, and gave them another chance after I got a refund for my always-half-broken Prime, but that's it. Experiment over. Either Nexus 10 or Chromebook for me next.

Yeah, I agree, unfortunately. Call it bad luck perhaps but with this round of failures and my Asus U36JC notebook that lasted 4-days (the replacement has lasted me a 1.5 yrs)... I just don't think I can do it again, as much as I like the brand. These have been my first and only two Asus purchases. Comparatively speaking, I've simply just not had this rate of failure with other [supposedly lesser quality] manufacturers...
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I read your post two days ago and thought 'unlucky', and went about my life. Then it happened to me last night! Took it off the charger, boom, that was it. This my fourth tablet in 2012 (two Primes, two Infinities), and if I manage to get a refund on this (past my 30 days) then I'll never be going back to Asus. I've tried and tried, and gave them another chance after I got a refund for my always-half-broken Prime, but that's it. Experiment over. Either Nexus 10 or Chromebook for me next.
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Yeah, I agree, unfortunately. Call it bad luck perhaps but with this round of failures and my Asus U36JC notebook that lasted 4-days (the replacement has lasted me a 1.5 yrs)... I just don't think I can do it again, as much as I like the brand. These have been my first and only two Asus purchases. Comparatively speaking, I've simply just not had this rate of failure with other [supposedly lesser quality] manufacturers...
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Ah - I've been told RMA is the only way. They must be cracking down on philanthropy after so many people got refunds on their Primes. As my Infinity is bricked AND the buttons barely work, there's a good chance I'll get a new device one hopes.
Sorry about your situation, but yeah, there are so many device manufacturers out there, would be silly not to 'punish' Asus by sticking with them. Mind you, when it comes to 10 inch Android tablets, there's no a lot to choose from.

I had the exact same thing, within 30 days and simply called my seller Amazon and they said and it back for a refund. I THINK I remember seeing the unlocking only voiding warranty fit software issues, not compete hardware failure... maybe with a check?
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Can't charge or turn on

Hello everyone! I have some problem with my Pixel. I was recording a video in 4k and the phone was charging during the recording. Then I found, that there is just 6% of the battery, made it at least 50%, took the phone off the charging and since then I can't charge, turn it on, start into bootloader, because there is no indications at all, just after pressing power and volume down for about 30 seconds, there is some vibration - I don't know what does it means. What can I do?

If the power is off, you should definitely be able to charge. I see a few possibilities:
The charger is bad
The cable is bad
The charging port on the phone is dirty or corroded
The charging port is broken
Hopefully it's not the last one, but try to eliminate the other possibilities. Be careful when trying to clean the port, so you don't damage or scratch anything. I've read at least one person post that they were able to get some goop out, and then their phone charged normally after that.
Good luck!

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If the power is off, you should definitely be able to charge. I see a few possibilities:
The charger is bad
The cable is bad
The charging port on the phone is dirty or corroded
The charging port is broken
Hopefully it's not the last one, but try to eliminate the other possibilities. Be careful when trying to clean the port, so you don't damage or scratch anything. I've read at least one person post that they were able to get some goop out, and then their phone charged normally after that.
Good luck!
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Everything with the charging is going well, because I'm using the original cable, with charges my second device right now. The charging port was okey, because it was charging while recording video. The cable was plugged in for a few hours, so the phone should be charged. That's why I still have the question: "What's happened to my Pixel?"

Your motherboard could potentially be gone. Here's my story.
I had a Pixel that I loved and adored. It began to have random reboots. I'd be doing something, and the phone would reboot. It happened sporadically, but was a nuisance because when I'm on call at night, my paging app doesn't start in the background after a restart, so I began missing some nighttime pages. Only happened twice, but it's a bit unacceptable in my line of work.
Eventually the reboots happened more frequently, and then one day it wouldn't turn back on. I tried everything and all i would get with long presses of the power button was a blip of a vibration motor. I talked through Google Support who recommended uBreakIFix. I sent the phone to them (after purchasing a used craigslist replacement) and they said a motherboard replacement was needed. Literally everything in the phone was in perfect condition, I had the phone in a protective case with screen cover since day 1 and there was no water damage. They also couldn't get it to power on. The slight vibration you're mentioning is exactly the issue I ran into and a motherboard replacement is 300+ dollars so I had to call it a loss.

Oh, God... But is there any answer about why this happens?

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Your motherboard could potentially be gone. Here's my story.
I had a Pixel that I loved and adored. It began to have random reboots. I'd be doing something, and the phone would reboot. It happened sporadically, but was a nuisance because when I'm on call at night, my paging app doesn't start in the background after a restart, so I began missing some nighttime pages. Only happened twice, but it's a bit unacceptable in my line of work.
Eventually the reboots happened more frequently, and then one day it wouldn't turn back on. I tried everything and all i would get with long presses of the power button was a blip of a vibration motor. I talked through Google Support who recommended uBreakIFix. I sent the phone to them (after purchasing a used craigslist replacement) and they said a motherboard replacement was needed. Literally everything in the phone was in perfect condition, I had the phone in a protective case with screen cover since day 1 and there was no water damage. They also couldn't get it to power on. The slight vibration you're mentioning is exactly the issue I ran into and a motherboard replacement is 300+ dollars so I had to call it a loss.
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Oh, God... But is there any answer about why this happens?

If you look around, this is not an uncommon issue although it’s also not that widespread. I tried to argue with Google that this was a hardware defect that needs to be covered by extended warranty replacement but they wouldn’t have it. I even argued that the random reboots that I first chatted with support about while my device was in warranty were a symptom of the same issue, but they still wouldn’t replace the phone.

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If you look around, this is not an uncommon issue although it’s also not that widespread. I tried to argue with Google that this was a hardware defect that needs to be covered by extended warranty replacement but they wouldn’t have it. I even argued that the random reboots that I first chatted with support about while my device was in warranty were a symptom of the same issue, but they still wouldn’t replace the phone.
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Does this happens on the 2nd and 3rd Pixel versions?

I've had my Pixel 2 for a while now and haven't had any unusual behavior. I love my pixel 2.

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jakegub said:
If you look around, this is not an uncommon issue although it’s also not that widespread. I tried to argue with Google that this was a hardware defect that needs to be covered by extended warranty replacement but they wouldn’t have it. I even argued that the random reboots that I first chatted with support about while my device was in warranty were a symptom of the same issue, but they still wouldn’t replace the phone.
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I had a similar problem, possibly the same. My Pixel 1 rebooted randomly, but pretty rarely, like once every several months. One morning it rebooted and then a few minutes later died for good. Unlike your phone though, pushing power + down-arrow didn't do anything. At the google-recommended repair store, they tried obvious things like changing the battery and nothing worked. They said that the charging cable drew a negligible amount of current, something like 50-80mA if I remember right.
What is "extended warranty replacement"? When I talked to Google, they said that since my phone was 21 months old, they wouldn't do anything for me.

aram_h said:
I had a similar problem, possibly the same. My Pixel 1 rebooted randomly, but pretty rarely, like once every several months. One morning it rebooted and then a few minutes later died for good. Unlike your phone though, pushing power + down-arrow didn't do anything. At the google-recommended repair store, they tried obvious things like changing the battery and nothing worked. They said that the charging cable drew a negligible amount of current, something like 50-80mA if I remember right.
What is "extended warranty replacement"? When I talked to Google, they said that since my phone was 21 months old, they wouldn't do anything for me.
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Yeah your mobo is shot and so is mine.
The extended warranty was a $100 add-on when you bought the phone to insure it for 2 years. This is a scam. Any issues you will find on these devices will have occurred and made themselves known within the first 3 months or 3 years after having the phone. Having bought the warranty also means nothing from a customer service point of view as they will refuse to work with you on anything about the phone if it is more than 15 days past warranty expiration even if you have NEVER made a claim and the problem is an obvious hardware defect that you wouldn't ever assume needed to be fixed until it's already too late and your device is no longer functional