Okay so I follow a lot on XDA and appreciate everything all the developers do. I was recently in contact with Samsung and Verizon. They both said if the phone is to be unlocked from the carrier, the boot loader becomes unlocked and then you'd be able to flash custom ROMs. This came from technical support from Verizon, and an in store technician. Is this possible? Its just an idea
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Okay so I follow a lot on XDA and appreciate everything all the developers do. I was recently in contact with Samsung and Verizon. They both said if the phone is to be unlocked from the carrier, the boot loader becomes unlocked and then you'd be able to flash custom ROMs. This came from technical support from Verizon, and an in store technician. Is this possible? Its just an idea
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If you can get them to do that, you'll get a $5000 bounty award for them handing us an unlocked bootchain.
I highly doubt anybody who talked to you knew what they were talking about.
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If you can get them to do that, you'll get a $5000 bounty award for them handing us an unlocked bootchain.
I highly doubt anybody who talked to you knew what they were talking about.
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Well Ive always been interested in flashing custom ROMs and stuff like that. My friend directed me to this site a few months ago and I have been following it. Well i got curious last night, contacted Samsung asking why the bootloader was locked. They told me that I would have to contact my carrier, verizon about this issue. I did the live chat thing on Verizons website. They told me to contact technical support and when I did, i was on the phone with them for almost an hour. The guy who i talked to told me if the phone was to be unlocked from the carrier, the bootloader becomes unlocked, thus you could flash a custom recovery and ROM. He told me that they do not recommend this. However, he said after you flash, you can relock to the carrier and it woudl not brick the device. Im just wondering if someone could comfirm this. I dont have a home phone so i couldnt talk on the phone, and unlock from the carrier.
If my phone would let me log on to the mobile app, I would post pictures that I took while talking online to the people. Cant really post a picture of the phone conversation
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Well Ive always been interested in flashing custom ROMs and stuff like that. My friend directed me to this site a few months ago and I have been following it. Well i got curious last night, contacted Samsung asking why the bootloader was locked. They told me that I would have to contact my carrier, verizon about this issue. I did the live chat thing on Verizons website. They told me to contact technical support and when I did, i was on the phone with them for almost an hour. The guy who i talked to told me if the phone was to be unlocked from the carrier, the bootloader becomes unlocked, thus you could flash a custom recovery and ROM. He told me that they do not recommend this. However, he said after you flash, you can relock to the carrier and it woudl not brick the device. Im just wondering if someone could comfirm this. I dont have a home phone so i couldnt talk on the phone, and unlock from the carrier.
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That information isn't correct. There's no way that's true.
There's no way that's possible
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wibirt14 said:
Well Ive always been interested in flashing custom ROMs and stuff like that. My friend directed me to this site a few months ago and I have been following it. Well i got curious last night, contacted Samsung asking why the bootloader was locked. They told me that I would have to contact my carrier, verizon about this issue. I did the live chat thing on Verizons website. They told me to contact technical support and when I did, i was on the phone with them for almost an hour. The guy who i talked to told me if the phone was to be unlocked from the carrier, the bootloader becomes unlocked, thus you could flash a custom recovery and ROM. He told me that they do not recommend this. However, he said after you flash, you can relock to the carrier and it woudl not brick the device. Im just wondering if someone could comfirm this. I dont have a home phone so i couldnt talk on the phone, and unlock from the carrier.
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That tech support person was most likely confused. They were probably thinking about SIM unlocking, not bootloader unlocking.
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That tech support person was most likely confused. They were probably thinking about SIM unlocking, not bootloader unlocking.
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No. I asked the guy if he knew what i was talking about. He said yes and started talking about how verizon locks down the bootloader. They sell an s3 model that isnt locked but is expensive. The guy knew what he was talking about and wasnt confused
wibirt14 said:
No. I asked the guy if he knew what i was talking about. He said yes and started talking about how verizon locks down the bootloader. They sell an s3 model that isnt locked but is expensive. The guy knew what he was talking about and wasnt confused
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They do sell an unlocked model. A developer edition phone. Each phone is on 4.1, not 4.3. Each one of those phones is signed with separate key to prevent the sharing of the unlocked bootloader.
You can't update the bootloader on those devices. And you can't take that bootloader and put it on a normal device.
What you're suggesting though isn't going to happen. The only way for them to unlock your bootloader is to give you a nonspecific bootloader to unlock your phone. If you get them to give you that, everyone here will have an unlocked bootloader at their disposal. There's no way Verizon is going to do that, but by all means, if you want to try go for it. Let us know what happens.
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What verizon considers "Unlocked" is so you can use a different carriers sim card. No connection to the locked boot chain
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I have a Photon Q 4G LTE from sprint. I lost my job and cant pay the bill. I'm sure sprint has locked the esn. I have seen you can flash my phone to cricket, But I read this on motorola's site.
DOES UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER MEAN I CAN USE MY DEVICE WITH ANY WIRELESS OPERATOR?
No, this does not disable a carrier subsidy lock if one exists. Some subscriptions are tied to a specific wireless operator and the phone cannot be used on another operator's network. A "locked bootloader" and "carrier subsidy lock" are thus two entirely different topics. Do not unlock the bootloader if you are want to to disable the carrier subsidy lock.
If I unlock the bootloader does that mean I will not be able to flash to cricket.
Also with a locked esn from sprint will I even be able to flash my phone over to cricket.
Sorry for the NooB questions here. I am new to cell phone modification but everyone has to start somewhere. :cyclops:
Gxkon said:
I have a Photon Q 4G LTE from sprint. I lost my job and cant pay the bill. I'm sure sprint has locked the esn. I have seen you can flash my phone to cricket, But I read this on motorola's site.
DOES UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER MEAN I CAN USE MY DEVICE WITH ANY WIRELESS OPERATOR?
No, this does not disable a carrier subsidy lock if one exists. Some subscriptions are tied to a specific wireless operator and the phone cannot be used on another operator's network. A "locked bootloader" and "carrier subsidy lock" are thus two entirely different topics. Do not unlock the bootloader if you are want to to disable the carrier subsidy lock.
If I unlock the bootloader does that mean I will not be able to flash to cricket.
Also with a locked esn from sprint will I even be able to flash my phone over to cricket.
Sorry for the NooB questions here. I am new to cell phone modification but everyone has to start somewhere. :cyclops:
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Unlocking the boatloader doesn't mean much. If you unlock it, nothing "bad" or "negative" happens. The reason for the statement of Motorola's site is so people don't unlock the bootloader thinking it will carrier unlock them.
As for actually flashing the phone to Cricket, I'm almost positive it can be done, but I can't answer that. What I CAN do however, is point you to this awesome forum that has to do with cricket phones and non-cricket phones that either have been flashed to cricket or are being worked on a working flash to cricket:
http://www.cricketusers.com/forum.php
Think of it as a Cricket-Flasher's XDA.
Sweet thanx for the info. Im still confused though if i unlock the bootloader and root it would i still be able to flash to another carrier
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Sweet thanx for the info. Im still confused though if i unlock the bootloader and root it would i still be able to flash to another carrier
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Figure out what Cricket needs in the way of OS and get them to activate the ESN. Obviously they need to make themselves the APN
Do yall think a flash to cricket from sprint is still possible with the new law. I would flash myself and then take the phone to cricket.
Gxkon said:
Do yall think a flash to cricket from sprint is still possible with the new law. I would flash myself and then take the phone to cricket.
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Well, this has always been one of those questionable things. I don't think it's technically illegal, so long as you aren't swapping the ESN or something like that.
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Well, this has always been one of those questionable things. I don't think it's technically illegal, so long as you aren't swapping the ESN or something like that.
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The dcma thing said you cant unlock cellphones anymore but you can tablets. Its crazy if you ask me but big companies cried to much about people unlocking phones before the contract is up.
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The dcma thing said you cant unlock cellphones anymore but you can tablets. Its crazy if you ask me but big companies cried to much about people unlocking phones before the contract is up.
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Yea, it said "legacy" phones were exempt. So technically our phone should be exempt... it was made before that law went into place.
Either way, just don't turn it into a business and you should be fine. It's your device, and you're not doing it over & over for profit.
Note - I am not replacement for legal counsel. I do not and cannot advise on the legality of anything.
Nice. i lost my job and couldnt pay my bill do you think sprint would give me the unlock code? Whats the diffrence between legacy phone and regular phones
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Nice. i lost my job and couldnt pay my bill do you think sprint would give me the unlock code? Whats the diffrence between legacy phone and regular phones
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Based on the legalese I read, it would be any phone sold after the law went into place, which was Jan. 1 2013 I think?
As for Sprint giving you the code, if your account is not in good standing I doubt it.
Note - I am also not a Sprint employee, lol.
Sweet thanx for the info
Do we know, or have we heard if the Sprint variant will have a locked bootloader?
tenorband said:
Do we know, or have we heard if the Sprint variant will have a locked bootloader?
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That's the million dollar question right now. :fingers-crossed:
FYI ... Questions belong in the (Questions & Answers) section.
Good question. My guess is yes. Only because it is Samsung
My guess is yuuuuup even Samsung decided to switch from an exynos to a snapdragon processor for Canadian users.
According to Samsung Customer Support...
bootloader will be locked if ordered directly through/from Sprint
bootloader will be UNlocked if purchased from online store or brick and mortar store (Samsung Customer Support Agent specifically mentioned Best Buy)
lennykravitz2004 said:
According to Samsung Customer Support...
bootloader will be locked if ordered directly through/from Sprint
bootloader will be UNlocked if purchased from online store or brick and mortar store (Samsung Customer Support Agent specifically mentioned Best Buy)
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If that is true i will be taking mine back and getting one from best buy.
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If that is true i will be taking mine back and getting one from best buy.
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Screenshot of chat with Samsung CS yesterday
ETA: me too. and it looks like the only way to cancel an order with Sprint is to simply not sign for it when delivered, although I'm going to call later this morning and see if that gets me anywhere.
Called to cancel order through Sprint, and basically got nowhere. Have to wait for it to show up from UPS, then take to my local Sprint store for return/refund. Going to Best Buy and purchase there with new 2 year agreement. $500 difference in price. Freebie of the sd card or Fit watch isn't as important now since price would be substantially less. If available still, I'll stick with getting the Fit like I planned.
If you're thinking about doing the same thing, Sprint rep told me to NOT OPEN THE BOX when delivered from UPS as that will require a $35 restocking fee. Just sign for it, then take it to the Sprint store by my house and the store will be able to do refund right then and there. We'll see...
International variants appear to have root capability (i.e. unlocked bootloader) already, just looking around on the web. Hopefully Sprint retail versions will be just as easy.
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According to Samsung Customer Support...
bootloader will be locked if ordered directly through/from Sprint
bootloader will be UNlocked if purchased from online store or brick and mortar store (Samsung Customer Support Agent specifically mentioned Best Buy)
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I find this a little hard to believe (I usually take what reps say with a grain of salt)
Regardless of who's selling it, don't all Sprint phones originate from the same place? So they can get all their bloatware (and locked bootloader, if it is?) on there? Do the Sprint phones from Best Buy not have all of the bloatware?
I guess we'll know soon enough.
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I find this a little hard to believe (I usually take what reps say with a grain of salt)
Regardless of who's selling it, don't all Sprint phones originate from the same place? So they can get all their bloatware (and locked bootloader, if it is?) on there? Do the Sprint phones from Best Buy not have all of the bloatware?
I guess we'll know soon enough.
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And after looking at the Best Buy page for the N7, the "unlocked" spec is labeled as "No". Maybe Samsung makes more money if sold from retailers as opposed to carriers??? I have no idea. Another reason why I'm cancelling my order, regardless at this point. Or maybe sit on it and see if anything develops once they start getting in dev's hands for a week. After waiting 4 years for an upgrade, what's another few weeks to wait and see what's really happening. Seems Samsung and/or Sprint is moving to locking down the phones for good now, or as much as possible.
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After waiting 4 years for an upgrade, what's another few weeks to wait and see what's really happening.
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My guess is by Thursday or Friday night at the latest, we will know everything about what's locked and what's not.
Probably have the first reports of a brick from someone trying to root also... lol
I find it hard to believe that a best buy sprint n7 would be any different than one directly from sprint. I would imagine they are all shipped from the same place with the same setups.
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Do know why you posted this here this is not DEVELOPMENT. More than likely it will have a locked boot loader get over it
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Do know why you posted this here this is not DEVELOPMENT. More than likely it will have a locked boot loader get over it
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Respectful posts please. Also, finding out and working towards root methods and unlocking bootloaders are at the core of Development. Thank you, and appreciate your comments which add nothing to the discussion.
Honestly as long as we get a viable root and unroot method i will be happy. I can live without having custom roms.
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I think that is bs. I don't see the difference from a best buy Sprint Note 7 and one that is directly bought from Sprint. I'm almost certain that either one will be locked.
Also the s7 edge got root but no working recovery. So at some point we might get the same.
On the other hand the exynos versions of the Note 7 have a wip root and recovery.
It will be locked. Don't get your hopes up. Not going to be any different than the s7.
Silly question I presume but does locked bootloader mean we could obtain root but no custom recovery?
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Silly question I presume but does locked bootloader mean we could obtain root but no custom recovery?
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The way the s7 got root was from a leaked engineer firmware so if the bootloader is locked than well have to wait for someone to get their hands on the engineer bootloader or find another way to get root
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Just like zune mentioned its going to be a wait for us to get something concrete as far as boot loaders but we might have root a little earlier at least you can use rooted apps IE titanium backup with a locked boot loader is a plus. although if your a flash junky like myself it would have been great to get an unlocked boot loader for recoveries backups and new roms but only time will tell there are some of the greatest Devs here on XDA so you never know...
I'm very confused. Some people say I can root it just like a nexus, some say that Google would just brick my phone, and I also heard I would need a custom ROM first. I'm super confused. Can anyone help me out please? Rooting is very important to me. Also it's the pixel XL if for some reason it could make a slight difference in what I would install/use.
OK. All pixels or pixels XL can be bootloader unlocked and rooted except for Verizon and EE variants running the 7.1.1.
Read in the dev section. It's much like a nexus, only thing is the two partitions need to be accounted for.
I'm running Dec 7.1.1 stock rooted with twrp. No issues at all.
Have you looked in the development forum at all?
If you have a pixel from Google you can unlock the bootloader and root it.
If you have a Verizon pixel you can only root if the bootloader is unlocked. The only way you can u look k the bootloader is if you are on 7.1. if you have updated to 7.1.1 you cannot unlock the bootloader therefore you can't root.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Have you looked in the development forum at all?
If you have a pixel from Google you can unlock the bootloader and root it.
If you have a Verizon pixel you can only root if the bootloader is unlocked. The only way you can u look k the bootloader is if you are on 7.1. if you have updated to 7.1.1 you cannot unlock the bootloader therefore you can't root.
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Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for 7.1.1 on VZ? Just got my Pixel today and took the update before I knew better.
Squintz said:
Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for 7.1.1 on VZ? Just got my Pixel today and took the update before I knew better.
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To my knowledge there is no one working on an unlock for the VZW devices on 7.1.1. The "method" previously used was stumbled across. Even though I am unsure of how Verizon blocks enabling bootloader unlocking I very highly doubt that a new method will be found. Every device in Verizon's history that could either be exploited or had an unlocked method exposed had a patch issued to block it. Once patched there has never been a second exploit found.
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To my knowledge there is no one working on an unlock for the VZW devices on 7.1.1. The "method" previously used was stumbled across. Even though I am unsure of how Verizon blocks enabling bootloader unlocking I very highly doubt that a new method will be found. Every device in Verizon's history that could either be exploited or had an unlocked method exposed had a patch issued ro block it. Once patched there has never been a second exploit found.
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Yea Verizon sucks. S3 and s5 both eventually were unlocked and stayed that eay
aholeinthewor1d said:
Yea Verizon sucks. S3 and s5 both eventually were unlocked and stayed that eay
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I completely agree. The first S4 was released with the MDK bootloader. Loki was the exploit. That device lived to see both an AOSP 7.1 and OptimizedCM 14.1. The first OTA they pushed blocked it and many were quite upset. A new method was never discovered. Not sure if Big Red still uses the same "excuse" as back then but they claimed they were protecting network security. Blow that smoke up someone else's ***. I'm not so easily suckered.
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I completely agree. The first S4 was released with the MDK bootloader. Loki was the exploit. That device lived to see both an AOSP 7.1 and OptimizedCM 14.1. The first OTA they pushed blocked it and many were quite upset. A new method was never discovered. Not sure if Big Red still uses the same "excuse" as back then but they claimed they were protecting network security. Blow that smoke up someone else's ***. I'm not so easily suckered.
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Yup and now I'm stuck with them unless I wanna give up unlimited data
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Yup and now I'm stuck with them unless I wanna give up unlimited data
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You could always return that and buy a pixel from Google, you could still use it on Verizon and i would think still keep your plan.
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You could always return that and buy a pixel from Google, you could still use it on Verizon and i would think still keep your plan.
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I already unlocked my bootloader so I'm good thankfully. Just in general I am sick of Verizon cause most of the time we can't unlock bootloader. Got lucky with the pixel for a little. Sucks for new people getting it though who can't unlock
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I already unlocked my bootloader so I'm good thankfully. Just in general I am sick of Verizon cause most of the time we can't unlock bootloader. Got lucky with the pixel for a little. Sucks for new people getting it though who can't unlock
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OK, with that being said, your probably out of luck on rooting then. Was just providing another possible option.
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OK, with that being said, your probably out of luck on rooting then. Was just providing another possible option.
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Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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Well that's normal procedure for any carrier. You get a phone they open it and try to activate and test. You just have to say "WAIT" and explain that you have to change a setting before activating. Then take sim out and skip everything and turn off auto updates in developer options. Use your best judgement based on the rep you are dealing with. With best buy before even going there to exchange my pixel.. I thankfully got someone who did the same tinkering I did with phone so I was honest with him and I got him to exchange my phone straight out.. without having to do the whole return thing with verizom and mess up my plan. I also examined why I had to take the SIM out and not active and he was cool with it. I walked in and have him my box and he gave me another and that was it haha.
But dealing with verizon you could simple say you heard the update causes issues so you wanna test without it first.. if they say no then argue. They may be required to activate but they definitely don't have any kind of policy that says you can't skip activation during setup and do it right after.
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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It depends on whether or not you're dealing with a knowledgeable Verizon Corporate Store associate (I don't deal with authorized resellers.) He does not have to open the box to activate the phone. He's required to record the IMEI and the SIM IDs, but those values are printed on the box for the last 2 years. The majority of the time, I walk out with still-shrinkwrapped phones. (Obviously, that doesn't guarantee that that particular phone still has an unlockable firmware.)
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Well that's normal procedure for any carrier. You get a phone they open it and try to activate and test. You just have to say "WAIT" and explain that you have to change a setting before activating. Then take sim out and skip everything and turn off auto updates in developer options. Use your best judgement based on the rep you are dealing with. With best buy before even going there to exchange my pixel.. I thankfully got someone who did the same tinkering I did with phone so I was honest with him and I got him to exchange my phone straight out.. without having to do the whole return thing with verizom and mess up my plan. I also examined why I had to take the SIM out and not active and he was cool with it. I walked in and have him my box and he gave me another and that was it haha.
But dealing with verizon you could simple say you heard the update causes issues so you wanna test without it first.. if they say no then argue. They may be required to activate but they definitely don't have any kind of policy that says you can't skip activation during setup and do it right after.
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He is dead on. You can simply say "I don't want it unwrapped."
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It depends on whether or not you're dealing with a knowledgeable Verizon Corporate Store associate (I don't deal with authorized resellers.) He does not have to open the box to activate the phone. He's required to record the IMEI and the SIM IDs, but those values are printed on the box for the last 2 years. The majority of the time, I walk out with still-shrinkwrapped phones. (Obviously, that doesn't guarantee that that particular phone still has an unlockable firmware.)
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He is dead on. You can simply say "I don't want it unwrapped."
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True, but that is what they are doing. I've been on VZW for years. When I got mine they opened the package and went to insert the SIM and I told them to stop. They said "We have to make sure it activates before you leave the store". I said "No you don't, If you place a SIM in and activate it the deal and sale is off". Long story short I left with a device that did not get powered on. And this was at the VZW store, not a reseller.
I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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Yup that's my fear to. If I ever have an issue and need a replacement I'm screwed.
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I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Yup that's my fear to. If I ever have an issue and need a replacement I'm screwed.
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I should have bought from Google, too. Since I didn't the first thing I bought after getting the phone was the Defender case. Third device I've bought that case for and it hasn't let me down yet.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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It is pretty easy... Just buy your phone from Google. Verizon has nothing to do with it, be an adult and buy what you want.
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Hey folks! This forum has helped me so much in the past, but this is my first time posting here.
I had been using a Verizon Pixel since November with PN without any issues up until last week when the phone had an audio hardware failure and I had to RMA the device. I decided to process the RMA through Google directly, rather than risk ending up with a Verizon version of the phone with a locked down bootloader. After about a week of waiting, my replacement unit arrived today in the mail. The phone came with software version NOF26V, which is a non-Verizon build and should be unlockable.
I inserted my Verizon SIM card (poor choice) before booting it up without realizing that this would put it on the Verizon update path. I was trying to unlock my bootloader first thing, but after restarting the phone it automatically updated to NHG47O without any prompt or anything - WTF! So now I'm on a friggin Verizon build with a locked bootloader. Did I just ruin this thing? Is there any way to revert from NHG47O to the factory image? Does this phone now have a permanently locked bootloader?
Any suggestions? I wonder if Google would be willing to send me another one even though this was obviously my own fault....
That's not the way the way it works. The software version does not lock it. The IMEI is in a database that the phone talks to and gets permission to unlock. Your phone was already on a newer version....it would not have unlocked.
Google sent you a phone tagged as a VZ phone.... unlockable. That is what they do if you send them a VZ phone. Not always, sometimes they send a google phone. But not often.
And yes, you are permanently locked. There is no going back.
Hey TonikJDK, thanks for the response.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. First you say
TonikJDK said:
Your phone was already on a newer version....it would not have unlocked.
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Then you say
TonikJDK said:
Google sent you a phone tagged as a VZ phone.... unlockable.
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To be clear - I spoke with a Google Rep about receiving a replacement phone from Google specifically because I wanted to have an unlockable bootloader and I was assured that my replacement would be unlockable. I am trying to understand but it seems to me that the quotes above contradict each other. Are you saying that I wouldn't have been able to unlock the device even if I hadn't accidentally installed the VZ update?
To be clear. You bought a Verizon device with the understanding it has a locked bootloader. That's what you got. If you don't like it, sell it. If you BUY a Google phone it's unlocked. Not if you get one thru replacement for your Verizon device. It's really that simple.
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CapriciousCrawdad said:
Hey TonikJDK, thanks for the response.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. First you say
Then you say
To be clear - I spoke with a Google Rep about receiving a replacement phone from Google specifically because I wanted to have an unlockable bootloader and I was assured that my replacement would be unlockable. I am trying to understand but it seems to me that the quotes above contradict each other. Are you saying that I wouldn't have been able to unlock the device even if I hadn't accidentally installed the VZ update?
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The statements do not contradict each other.
Google shipped you a Verizon phone with NOF26V on it. That is 7.1.1, you would not have been able to unlock it even if you tried before it updated. If it had 7.1 on it, yes the old depixel8 method would have worked.
Alright, sorry for the misunderstanding and thank you for clarifying. I get it now. The phone would've only been unlockable via depixel8 on 7.1 (because it's a VZ model) and since it shipped with 7.1.1 I was SOL from the start.
Either Google support didn't understand what I was asking or they outright lied to me about my replacement being unlockable. I am sad.
In any case, I appreciate your help. Thanks for your patience.
Happy to help. I think Google is honest, the rep screwed up.
Why do I read posts on here about everyone having success in getting t-mobile to unlock their phones even when their still being financed and I have talked to 5 different reps and everyone of them has flat out told me they will not unlock my phone until I pay it off?
I use the same recommended story that I'm an app developer and I need my bootloader unlocked which requires the device to be unlocked.
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Why do I read posts on here about everyone having success in getting t-mobile to unlock their phones even when their still being financed and I have talked to 5 different reps and everyone of them has flat out told me they will not unlock my phone until I pay it off?
I use the same recommended story that I'm an app developer and I need my bootloader unlocked which requires the device to be unlocked.
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Cause all the guys who did it are gone now
I don't think there is a method for this device yet
matt71189 said:
Why do I read posts on here about everyone having success in getting t-mobile to unlock their phones even when their still being financed and I have talked to 5 different reps and everyone of them has flat out told me they will not unlock my phone until I pay it off?
I use the same recommended story that I'm an app developer and I need my bootloader unlocked which requires the device to be unlocked.
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Have you been with T-Mobile long? I suspect they're more willing if you've been a customer for years and have remained in good standing, always paying your bills in time. Not saying that you haven't, I just think that will help. Maybe they're less inclined with new customers, though I'm just speculating.
Get at T-Force on Twitter, that's what I did. I was honest with them, told them I had to travel (so the unlock for me just happens to also help me here). They initially tried to do the temporary unlock and when that didn't work for whatever reason, they forced the full unlock. Took 5 minutes tops. Of course, YMMV...it depends on the rep you get. If one won't do it, try again the next day and you'll likely get a different rep.
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Pm magnefica with your last name and phone number and he may work some magic and get your phone unlocked. Be patient.
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bkeaver said:
Pm magnefica with your last name and phone number and he may work some magic and get your phone unlocked. Be patient.
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they helped me with the unlock today.
https://www.oneplus.com/unlock_token
So I would love if I could get this XDA community alive as far as the KB2007 is concerned. To update everyone with the process thus far.
I bought two Oneplus 8T+ From T-Mobile less than a month ago. Also started new service with them, go me!!!
I love the functionality of a rooted device. I've been using a non rooted S9+ on att for the last 2+ years.
So here we are.... I buy the phones, take them home. Only to see my OEM unlock greyed out..... DAMMIT.
I call t-mobile, they tell me I have to wait 40 days from the date purchased for them to unlock the SIM. Mark the day on my calendar.
Not really patient for that, so I started looking on good ole' XDA.
To my surprise I find some info that says I should message t-mobile on fb.
Why not??? Lets try it. They got the unlock done within 5 minutes.
Permanent unlock lets gooo!!!! So I reach out to oneplus, to get the bootloader unlocked. Got the unlock code. Used the website, pending application! GREAT!
So questions for the future. Is there any good OnePlus k2007 OFFICIAL Roms out?
And should I be fine using https://androidbiits.com/root-t-mobile-oneplus-8t-plus-5g-kb2007-easily/
as a source to root from? Any information would be gladly appreciated.
kidownzus said:
So I would love if I could get this XDA community alive as far as the KB2007 is concerned. To update everyone with the process thus far.
I bought two Oneplus 8T+ From T-Mobile less than a month ago. Also started new service with them, go me!!!
I love the functionality of a rooted device. I've been using a non rooted S9+ on att for the last 2+ years.
So here we are.... I buy the phones, take them home. Only to see my OEM unlock greyed out..... DAMMIT.
I call t-mobile, they tell me I have to wait 40 days from the date purchased for them to unlock the SIM. Mark the day on my calendar.
Not really patient for that, so I started looking on good ole' XDA.
To my surprise I find some info that says I should message t-mobile on fb.
Why not??? Lets try it. They got the unlock done within 5 minutes.
Permanent unlock lets gooo!!!! So I reach out to oneplus, to get the bootloader unlocked. Got the unlock code. Used the website, pending application! GREAT!
So questions for the future. Is there any good OnePlus k2007 OFFICIAL Roms out?
And should I be fine using https://androidbiits.com/root-t-mobile-oneplus-8t-plus-5g-kb2007-easily/
as a source to root from? Any information would be gladly appreciated.
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Lineage, crDroid, etc, all works with KB2007 with single SIM support. You can flash Global/EU/India OOS for dual SIM support.
It says there are no known issues from converting. So it won't make it anymore difficult for me to connect to tmobile towers? Is there anything I need to lookout for while doing this? Seems like a wild method. Why does the conversion need to happen. Jc?
Radio is not affected.
Do you want Dual SIM? That's the big thing it enables, along with faster updates w/o T-Mobile in the way.
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Radio is not affected.
Do you want Dual SIM? That's the big thing it enables, along with faster updates w/o T-Mobile in the way.
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Dual sim isn't a nesesaty. Just want to be able to root the device.
The faster update sounds nice.
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I call t-mobile, they tell me I have to wait 40 days from the date purchased for them to unlock the SIM. Mark the day on my calendar.
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Maybe @mobbdeep can help?
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Hello XDA, I am back at it again with the free T-Mobile network unlocks. Yep, you heard that right... 100% FREE. This service will allow you to go into your Settings and perform a network unlock. I've been doing this for over 3 years now with...
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@kidownzus - If you're using your 8T+ on T-Mobile right now, check out my thread below..
[CLOSED][T-Mobile USA] Free SIM Unlocking Service - [OnePlus/Samsung/Google/LG/Moto]
Hello XDA, I am back at it again with the free T-Mobile network unlocks. Yep, you heard that right... 100% FREE. This service will allow you to go into your Settings and perform a network unlock. I've been doing this for over 3 years now with...
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mobbdeep said:
@kidownzus - If you're using your 8T+ on T-Mobile right now, check out my thread below..
[CLOSED][T-Mobile USA] Free SIM Unlocking Service - [OnePlus/Samsung/Google/LG/Moto]
Hello XDA, I am back at it again with the free T-Mobile network unlocks. Yep, you heard that right... 100% FREE. This service will allow you to go into your Settings and perform a network unlock. I've been doing this for over 3 years now with...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Fast and reliable service. The guy unlocked my 8T fast and with no hassle. Can vouch for him
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Fast and reliable service. The guy unlocked my 8T fast and with no hassle. Can vouch for him
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I got the SIM unlocked. Waiting for my token from OnePlus.
im having trouble unlocking with my token.bin it keeps telling me that it cant unlock in a locked state and oem unlocking is enabled. I had it unlocked before but i restored it with stock because the beta sucked now i cant get it to unlock the bootloader
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im having trouble unlocking with my token.bin it keeps telling me that it cant unlock in a locked state and oem unlocking is enabled. I had it unlocked before but i restored it with stock because the beta sucked now i cant get it to unlock the bootloader
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If you flashed back to stock by using MSM for instance you have to start over as if you are taking the phone from the box.
Everything you did prior to the recovery is history and irrelevant to the current state of your phone with the exception of the unlock token.
You don't need a new one the original one will work.
nm i forgot to follow with oem unlock
matt71189 said:
Why do I read posts on here about everyone having success in getting t-mobile to unlock their phones even when their still being financed and I have talked to 5 different reps and everyone of them has flat out told me they will not unlock my phone until I pay it off?
I use the same recommended story that I'm an app developer and I need my bootloader unlocked which requires the device to be unlocked.
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did you ever get your op8t unlocked?