Pattern lock and security - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys,
I need to give my HTC One to official service, and there is a possibility that they will give me a new one.
If I do screen lock with pattern, can they somehow access my data and files on the phone??
In case they don't change it for new one, I won't have too much stuff to restore and install, but if they do change it for new one, will they be able to lookaround on the phone?
Thnx.
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xsardax said:
Hi guys,
I need to give my HTC One to official service, and there is a possibility that they will give me a new one.
If I do screen lock with pattern, can they somehow access my data and files on the phone??
In case they don't change it for new one, I won't have too much stuff to restore and install, but if they do change it for new one, will they be able to lookaround on the phone?
Thnx.
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I dont know if they could get your data.
But just do a clockworkmod backup and then copy that to a computer.
Then data wipe your phone(Same as factory reset).
And if you get a new device then restore that backup to the new device.
Just make sure that you wipe the phone you turn into them. (Recovery and all to stock)

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[Q] HTC Inspire "AS-IS" phone image backup

Hi
I just bought a new HTC. Do u know if there is a pc / laptop application from which i can take a complete "As-is" image of the phone?
I want this just in case if i mess up playing with the mobile, i can use the PC application and restore the complete image as i bought using USB connecting to
phone.
Thanks
If you mean after you've set it up(apps and personal config) on the stock rom, no there isn't a way.
Thanks
Is there way to get the original ROM / Image? let us i do not want the apps and personal config thru PC application connecting thru USB?
sivgan said:
Thanks
Is there way to get the original ROM / Image? let us i do not want the apps and personal config thru PC application connecting thru USB?
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If you look in bubbys simple one click thread or the hack kit thread, there are links to the stock RUU. You can run the RUU from your PC through USB to phone or through hboot.
Sent from my time waster.
I'll add to the above by saying, once you're rooted, it's a different story.
At that point you can flash clockwork recovery, which will allow you to back-up your phones state at that time, which is what you're asking to do now.
The difference is there's no way of doing it to the phone out of the box... As at the point it's not rooted, and the mechanism of backing up in the manner to which you refer is only available with a custom recovery, which is only available on rooted phones with s-Off.
It's a shame, as I wouldn't have minded doing the same thing back before I rooted, but... No go.
A hard reset will restore your phone as you bought it. If you want to save apps and data, there are apps for backing up. You would just do restores after the hard reset.
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fernandezhjr said:
A hard reset will restore your phone as you bought it. If you want to save apps and data, there are apps for backing up. You would just do restores after the hard reset.
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Thanks
Will hard reset work restore it to out of box condition, even though i have a put a
different ROM?
sivgan said:
Thanks
Will hard reset work restore it to out of box condition, even though i have a put a
different ROM?
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No. The response was to a user with a stock phone already (non-rooted). If you're running a different ROM, then you're necessarily rooted and will have a tough time getting back to out-of-box condition.
Nickovtyme said:
If you look in bubbys simple one click thread or the hack kit thread, there are links to the stock RUU. You can run the RUU from your PC through USB to phone or through hboot.
Sent from my time waster.
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Can you please send me the link for those threads?
sivgan said:
Thanks
Will hard reset work restore it to out of box condition, even though i have a put a
different ROM?
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You did not state in your original post that you are planning to root. Obviously, your concern is returning the phone for warranty purposes. I have read many post where users flashed a stock rom and used the s-on tool. It may not return you to exactly like out of the box, but it would be close enough to get you thru warranty. The stock rooted rom I am using now is exactly like stock before I rooted. If it weren't for the fact that someone tinkered with the kernel name, there would be know way to tell the difference.
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fernandezhjr said:
You did not state in your original post that you are planning to root. Obviously, your concern is returning the phone for warranty purposes. I have read many post where users flashed a stock rom and used the s-on tool. It may not return you to exactly like out of the box, but it would be close enough to get you thru warranty. The stock rooted rom I am using now is exactly like stock before I rooted. If it weren't for the fact that someone tinkered with the kernel name, there would be know way to tell the difference.
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Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
sivgan said:
Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
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It's a 3-way chicken/egg thing. You can't do what you want without unfettered access to the main partitions on the phone. You can't get unfettered access without rooting. You can't root without installing a downgraded ROM and losing the current ROM.
sivgan said:
Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
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If you're not going to root there is no need to "store" the factory image as it is part of your rom. When you want to reset it just do a factory data reset and it will be just like it was when it came out of the box.
sivgan said:
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Can you please send me the link for those threads?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-960736.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
sivgan said:
Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
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You seem a bit confused. If you are not going to root, then my original reply would apply, a hard reset will get you back to out of the box. However, if you do not root, you will not be able to flash a custom rom.
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Un-Root with broken USB port?

I am helping a buddy with his Infuse 4G, and his USB port is broken. He has a stock rom on it, but it's still rooted. He needs to replace it for a CLNR replacement phone but we gotta unroot first. How can this be done without ODIN? In the stock recovery it has a flash package option, can it be done that way? If so where can I find the file? The only problem is that SuperUser won't go away lol
Are u going thru att to get the phone replaced if so i sent mine back with root still on it with no problems so to speak but see this thread for further info and see if its something that will help u out at least deleting the system files. Just an idea
I figured it won't be too big of a deal as long as it looks stock with no special boot animations or something, I had a friend return a phone to T mobile that had root but nothing otherwise, stock recovery, etc. But my friend is quite worried because it can be an insane .
won't doing a factory reset from settings > privacy unroot it? it wipes your SD card, so this should be all that you have to do...
mfpearson said:
won't doing a factory reset from settings > privacy unroot it? it wipes your SD card, so this should be all that you have to do...
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I dont think that unroots it...i think there is a master crazy dialer code that might. i was undery the impression that factory reset is just the same as wiping data
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Wiping cleared all but super user, what's the dialer code?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235381
Which one of those would I use?
theratdude64 said:
Which one of those would I use?
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No idea lol. ....i dont even know that it works
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Tried both reset related ones, no luck. Sounds like he is just returning it and praying lol
i rooted and unlocked the phone. Just did a factory reset and returned it. Full refund no question ask at all.

[SOLVED] System Software Update is Corrupted

I have been waiting for a while to get the OTA update to ICS on my Sensation XE and finally got it today in the UK. When i come to download and install the update it will download fine but as soon as its finished it says "The downloaded system software update is corrupted" and the only options are to download again or do nothing and stick with gingerbread - i don't really want to do either of those. I have tried to download the update about 20 times now with the same result!
I have found something on another forum who said a factory reset is the only cure for this but as i am not rooted or anything like that I cant properly backup my apps using titanium backup so i will lose all my progress in my games and stuff so I really don't want to do this unless I absolutely have no other choice.
I was wondering if anyone else on here has had this problem and found a way around it without doing a hard reset. I have already taken the battery out and left it for a while but that did nothing either.
Thanks in advance!
If u can't backup coz u r not rooted - move sensitive apps to SD (then ur personal data like saves in games is moved to sd), and then use "Apps Backup & Restore" app to backup all apk's from installed apps to sd. Then, backup ur SMS using system core feature from MEssages > Menu > BAck-up messages
That should be enough for you. But in my opinion you should do CLEAR install, and again after ICS update wipe to factory settings, because without this - phone is useless, believe me.
I hope my english is understandable
hexen88 said:
If u can't backup coz u r not rooted - move sensitive apps to SD (then ur personal data like saves in games is moved to sd), and then use "Apps Backup & Restore" app to backup all apk's from installed apps to sd. Then, backup ur SMS using system core feature from MEssages > Menu > BAck-up messages
That should be enough for you. But in my opinion you should do CLEAR install, and again after ICS update wipe to factory settings, because without this - phone is useless, believe me.
I hope my english is understandable
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Thanks for the reply!
I have already done the SMS backup but not the app back up. I was wondering if the app you suggested to back up apps re links the apps back to the market once they have been restored like titanium backup does it?
I was also hoping someone could tell me if they have had to do a factory reset to solve the problem because I don't want to do a reset to find it hasn't solved the problem.
Thanks
Get the ICS RUU from the shipped roms thread and flash that. OK, you lose your data but at least it's a 100% fresh install
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how to do the same here?
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EddyOS said:
Get the ICS RUU from the shipped roms thread and flash that. OK, you lose your data but at least it's a 100% fresh install
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Cheers eddy.
For doing this do I need to be s off and root with a custom recovery or is flashing a ruu different so I just have to put it somewhere and trick the phone into flashing it?
I think I'll do this method if doing a factory reset doesn't work as I'll be doing a fresh install anyway.
As Far As I know, to RUU you won't have to have S-OFF and Custom Recovery. Because if you installed Custom Recovery it will replace with the default HTC Recovery.
If you planned to have S-OFF later I would you recommend you to do it before upgrade, because I think right now no body have release out on how to get S-OFF on HTC's ICS yet.
Have you try to used different Micro SDCard before try to download the upgrade.
If you have a stock XE then the XE RUU is fine without S-OFF. Here's the link:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3aa...00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_251961_signed.exe
As said above, S-OFF whilst still on 2.3 as you can't S-OFF with the new 1.27 HBOOT YET (it's coming soon, though). Then flash the RUU and you keep S-OFF
XaQi 101 said:
As Far As I know, to RUU you won't have to have S-OFF and Custom Recovery. Because if you installed Custom Recovery it will replace with the default HTC Recovery.
If you planned to have S-OFF later I would you recommend you to do it before upgrade, because I think right now no body have release out on how to get S-OFF on HTC's ICS yet.
Have you try to used different Micro SDCard before try to download the upgrade.
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You f#%king beauty xaqi!!! Another sd card worked. If I could hug you I would!!! I really wasn't wanting to flash anything or do anything extra to it. So I'm presuming if I was to format my sd card that would work as well...
Thank you everyone for your help! ICS W00P
Fulwood Sedge said:
You f#%king beauty xaqi!!! Another sd card worked. If I could hug you I would!!! I really wasn't wanting to flash anything or do anything extra to it. So I'm presuming if I was to format my sd card that would work as well...
Thank you everyone for your help! ICS W00P
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Not to revive an old thread, but I just wanted to add that using a new sd card worked for me, too.

How to disable update notification

Hey guys,
First off, I am an admitted noob. From what I can tell, updating to 2.20/4.04 will un-root your device so I'm looking for a way to disable the update notification. Is there a way to get it to stop bugging me until 2.20 is rooted?
Also, how do upgrades generally work when you're rooted and want to maintain root?
Thanks!
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Goood
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
nyteroot said:
Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
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Something like that
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If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
gentzleon said:
If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
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I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
nyteroot said:
I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
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To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Normally with OTAs, after the OTA is downloaded, you will have the option to install or not. Just cancel, then delete the file from the SD card. Somebody will have to verify this is the case (haven't gotten the notification, personally), but that is normally how HTC does it. You have to be really careful not to hit the wrong option. But once you've cancelled the install, you won't get any more notifications for this particular OTA.
Really, the "settings" method suggested by footbal9584 seems much safer (as a wrong button press will actually install the OTA for my way). But if his method doesn't work, you might try mine.
Also, all the info you will probably ever need about unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMs, etc. can be found in my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There you will find a method for keeping your user data while doing the bootloader unlock. But honestly, I'd recommend not going through the hassle. If you intend to flash custom ROMs, you should wipe data anyway.
E.Cadro said:
To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
EDIT: Whoops -- didn't see post above. The method there uses dd to do a block-level backup -- does one of the above methods work, or not so much?
nyteroot said:
Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
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Nandroid is a full backup of the ROM, all user data, apps, and settings. If you are flashing custom ROMs, that is not what you want for restoring user data, etc. But its a good idea to do a nandroid backup of the stock ROM, in case you want to go back.
Titanium Backup is great for backing up user apps, and some settings. Some people use it to restore various settings, but this can be problematic, as all ROMs don't treat this data the same. Personally, I just use Titanium to backup and restore my apps and app save data, and sometimes WiFi and Bluetooth pairings. But I configure everything else manually. Usually takes me about 20 minutes to do it all when moving between ROMs.
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
thunderpack said:
Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
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Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
If I freeze the updater, will it break my phone?
I do not know I highly doubt it would but no guarantees. I cleared my data before it downloaded anything it just started the "there is an update you cannot use tour phone during install do you want to install now" I postponed it 8 hours a few times, but then just cleared the data and still haven't gotten any notifications.
Maybe see of what the other user said is correct maybe the update was downloaded to your phone and you need to remove the file before it will leave you alone.
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nyteroot said:
Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
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At least on other devices, if you let the OTA download, then cancel it, it should stop the notifications. Can you confirm or deny this?
You can then just find the file on the internal SD and delete it. At least that is how it worked on the HTC Flyer.
If you can confirm, this would probably be a handy method for others. At least one other person is asking how to cancel the install (and other that want to stop the notifications, I'm sure): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29903041
Update: nevermind I restarted my phone today and ad soon as it booted up I got the is your last time to postpone message so I cleared updater again but now every time I unlock my phone I'm prompted to update and just have to push the back button. Sorry I'll keep looking into it.
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Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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footbal9584 said:
Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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Finally got my last chance to postpone. Glad you posted exactly where it was located. Deleted and hopefully it wont update.
Thanks!
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for this info. I went one step beyond that and backed up and uninstalled the updater and updater setup within Titanium Backup. Will report back if anything gets messed up.

What should I do before selling my phone?

Hello.
I am going to sell my phone and I was wondering if a factory reset is enough? It's just since I've had so much personal data on my device I want to make sure that it can't be restored later or something like that.
Thank you in advance!
You could always sell your phone it just depends, the only thing you need to is a Factory reset but if it's rooted or have a custom ROM you need to unroot it and flash back the stock rom.
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Fantassy123 said:
You could always sell your phone it just depends, the only thing you need to is a Factory reset but if it's rooted or have a custom ROM you need to unroot it and flash back the stock rom.
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That isn't entirely accurate. Some people (like we few) would pay more for a phone with an unlocked boot loader or custom rom. Even root ups the resale value.
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crewol said:
Hello.
I am going to sell my phone and I was wondering if a factory reset is enough? It's just since I've had so much personal data on my device I want to make sure that it can't be restored later or something like that.
Thank you in advance!
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Yes, that's most certainly enough. Although there ARE pieces of software out there that could recover your data, 99.999% of the folks getting your phone just want to use the phone. You could do a complete NAND wipe, but it takes a bit of time and some know-how. All of us simply do a factory reset and move on! Best of luck to you!
Bill

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