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Help for S-Off XTC Clip User

Hi,
As you can see from my signature, I'm still using all the firmware which originally came with my phone back in June.
As I needed root for a particular application, I got S-off through the XTC Clip method. For various reasons, I would like the latest (rooted) official ROM. Having read through the guides, I think to get up-to-date I need to do the following:
1. Get a custom recovery (ext4 seems the most popular);
2. Do a backup using the custom recovery;
3. Follow the instructions in this thread to get the latest hboot and radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240266
4. Backup key data to be restored using Titanium backup;
5. Do backup again using custom recovery;
6. Install ROM from developers site following instructions. I should use either of the following to get the latest official Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287797
Is the above roughly the right process to follow? Not totally sure what I am doing but hopefully I am on the right lines.
Many thanks,
Damian

damian35 said:
Hi,
As you can see from my signature, I'm still using all the firmware which originally came with my phone back in June.
As I needed root for a particular application, I got S-off through the XTC Clip method. For various reasons, I would like the latest (rooted) official ROM. Having read through the guides, I think to get up-to-date I need to do the following:
1. Get a custom recovery (ext4 seems the most popular);
2. Do a backup using the custom recovery;
3. Follow the instructions in this thread to get the latest hboot and radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240266
4. Backup key data to be restored using Titanium backup;
5. Do backup again using custom recovery;
6. Install ROM from developers site following instructions. I should use either of the following to get the latest official Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287797
Is the above roughly the right process to follow? Not totally sure what I am doing but hopefully I am on the right lines.
Many thanks,
Damian
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Looks good I just would do this:
Backup key data to be restored using Titanium backup;
as first step not at fourth.
And would insert a factory reset (wipe /data, /cache and /dalvik cache)
before 6 and a wipe of /cache and/dalvik cache before step 1 and 3.
The wipes are not really necessary, but to stay on the safe side I would recommend it.
Swyped from my Desire S

Hi,
Thanks for the quick response - I think I am getting somewhere here.
A couple of other points:
Is 4ext recovery the best custom recovery? I'm guessing a custom recovery is essential.
The link to the hboot for xtc-clip contains an old radio, so I will need to include another step to further update the radio.
when I download the hboot for xtc-clip file, do I need to do something to validate that the file is complete (this md5 thing)? Is it easy to validate.
Going to give the above ago this evening, so hopefully it will go ok!!
Thanks again,
Damian

damian35 said:
Hi,
Thanks for the quick response - I think I am getting somewhere here.
A couple of other points:
Is 4ext recovery the best custom recovery? I'm guessing a custom recovery is essential.
The link to the hboot for xtc-clip contains an old radio, so I will need to include another step to further update the radio.
when I download the hboot for xtc-clip file, do I need to do something to validate that the file is complete (this md5 thing)? Is it easy to validate.
Going to give the above ago this evening, so hopefully it will go ok!!
Thanks again,
Damian
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1) As much as I know it's the best for our device, it's based on cwm and adds a few helpful features to it
2) You could put the radio inside my signature, it's not the latest, but it's up to date and within the latest there is a report about bigger battery consumption with wifi
The steps to get it working are described within the thread where you get it from, anyway the procedure is more or less similar to the one for hboot
3) Would be a good idea, but cause there is no md5 sum to compare with it doesn't make much sense, but you could ask if someone can post it, and then generate the md5 of yours within Linux (I don't know if you're an windows our Linux user) or within the adb shell and compare it
Here is an md5 howto:
http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/198/md5-checksum-how-to/
(only the first step is needed by you, just compare the output with the posted md5sum)
To get adb working just take a look at the guide for newcomers
Swyped from my Desire S

Virtuous ROM: SuperCID and Firmware upgrade NOT needed?

The thread [GUIDE] A must read for those noobs who want to enjoy ICS states that ALL ICS roms need a firmware upgrade.
However, the installation instructions for the Virtuous ROM doesn't say anything at all about upgrading the firmware: http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/documentation.html
Which one is right?
Also, just to be on the safe side, is SuperCID needed?

The documentation page you linked is installation instructions for all Virtuous ROMs, so it's pretty generic. If you look at the description page for Virtuous Inquisition, which is ICS-based, the page does mention firmware. That ROM is based on the most recent 3.32 firmware, which is probably what you want to use. AFAIK, all ICS ROMs require firmware version of 3.12 or greater.
As for SuperCID, I think there are firmware downloads on the forums now that don't require it but it's also pretty easy to do.

pyrilium said:
The documentation page you linked is installation instructions for all Virtuous ROMs
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Ahhh. Ok. That was the missing link. Thanks.
I have a rooted S-OFF Sensation 4G with the stock ROM and ClockWork. So all I need to do is:
Flash the Firmware that doesn't require SuperCID
Nandroid Backup / Wipe
And then I can flash Virtuous.
Is that correct?
Also, does flashing Firmware alone cause a wipe?

That is correct, although I would do your nandroid backup before you flash the firmware. I'm not sure that it will wipe the system partitions, but it might.
The only other thing is that it can be a pain to get back into recovery after you flash the firmware if you're not using adb, since whenever you boot into the boot loader it will detect the firmware (PG58IMG.zip) on your SD card and ask if you want to flash it. One solution is to remove PG58IMG.zip from the SD card using an SD reader after you do the firmware update, but if you have adb installed & working you can also simply issue the command "adb reboot recovery" when the phone is off. This won't work when you're in the bootloader, although there's probably an equivalent fastboot command.

pyrilium said:
That is correct, although I would do your nandroid backup before you flash the firmware. I'm not sure that it will wipe the system partitions, but it might.
The only other thing is that it can be a pain to get back into recovery after you flash the firmware if you're not using adb, since whenever you boot into the boot loader it will detect the firmware (PG58IMG.zip) on your SD card and ask if you want to flash it. One solution is to remove PG58IMG.zip from the SD card using an SD reader after you do the firmware update, but if you have adb installed & working you can also simply issue the command "adb reboot recovery" when the phone is off. This won't work when you're in the bootloader, although there's probably an equivalent fastboot command.
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Wow, this is extremely helpful, thank you. One other thing: does it matter what version of ClockWork I'm using? (I rooted/did S-Off a loooooong time ago.)

Glad I can help!
I don't know whether the version of CWM matters. I doubt it would, other than maybe making a nandroid backup in a format other than current, but it's not that hard to update the recovery either.
I actually started using 4ext recovery recently, and I like it a fair bit better than CWM. It's something like $2.00 on the market, but includes a userspace application that lets you do things like set up a series of recovery operations (i.e. make backup, wipe, flash a set of zips) and then reboot into recovery to run them.

Perfect, thanks. I'll give this a shot.
Every few weeks I look up how to move to ICS but then lose my enthusiasm once I see all the things I'd have to do to switch haha. But today I noticed that Virtuous doesn't need some of those steps

One more question: SuperWIPE is unnecessary for Virtuous Inquisition correct? I see that it is necessary for Android Revolution, but I just wanted to make sure.

I've always seen superwipe recommended as part of the upgrade process from GB to ICS. It might not be required for Virtuous, but I don't see why you'd want to avoid it. The flashing process *will* wipe your phone - you want to use something like Titanium Backup to backup/restore app states if that's a problem - and performing the superwipe takes almost no time.

Woohoo! Successfully upgraded from stock Gingerbread (rooted & S-Off) to Virtuous Inquisition ICS! I wrote down what I did, so if anyone is interested, below is how I did it. It took about 15 minutes in total (not including the backups). Hopefully it helps someone else out there!
Titanium Backup all apps
Nandroid Backup via ClockWork Recovery (1434 MB)
Get CID Version:
Download ADB/Fastboot files from attachment from Post #1 of the [Firmware][Mar 12] thread
Connect phone to PC -> adb reboot bootloader -> Then in bootloader:
fastboot getvar cid: T-MOB010
fastboot getvar mid: PG5810000
fastboot reboot
Download the appropriate Firmware from above thread (CTRL+F for T-MOB010/PG5810000) and the Virtuous ROM from Virtous Website
Copy both files to sdcard, check md5 on both
Flash Firmware:
Turn phone off -> Hold Volume-Down + Power to enter bootloader
Wait for the firmware package to be found and confirm to update as prompted
Once completed successfully and asks you to reboot, pull the battery out. (Gingerbread & firmware are incompatible, causes bootloops)
With phone off and plugged into PC, do adb reboot recovery (Thanks pyrilium!)
Mount USB storage
Use PC to delete firmware file from sdcard
Wipe all data and cache -> Flash Virtuous -> Reboot
(Note that YES, flashing firmware causes bootloops -- as I found out! So firmware and ROM must both be flashed together.)
And thanks pyrilium for the note about using "adb reboot recovery" while the phone is off! I would have never figured that you could issue adb commands with your phone off. That tip isn't even in any of the guides, so thanks for that! Extremely helpful.
Anyway, hope that helps others out there. And thanks for helping me!

[Q] TWRP and mounting

Hey guys new here. I've done a fair amount of searching and cant really find anything that describes my problem. Trying to root my AT&T HOX and failed to put CM10 on the drive before unlocking. Now I have TWRP up right now but when I go to mount and then mount USB storage my PC says that this drive needs to be formatted to work correctly. Honestly not sure what I should do here I tried using HASOON2000's all in one kit but couldn't find the data folder for it. So I started following Cursed4Eva's video tutorial. I have already went to HTC Dev and unlocked it. When I'm in the bootloader menu it says "unlocked" "tampered". Basically Im kinda stuck right now as to what I can do to get CM10 on the one x's drive. Sorry for the super noob questions. Thanks in advance!

Okay so I formatted my drive. I'm able to get into TWRP and Bootloader screen, I get stuck in an infinite loop of the HTC screen with a disclaimer on it if I try to turn my phone on normally. Not sure where to go from here. Do I need to put CM10 in a specific folder and then "install" it from TWRP? Really sorry for the newb questions but I thought that I could handle this and apparently I cant.

Inside of TWRP, there should be a Mount menu button that will allow you to mount your phone to your computer. Simply drop the ROM zip anywhere in that directory, unmount the phone, and choose the Install option on TWRP. Select the ROM zip file and see what happens. If you get errors of "unable to mount drive" or the like, you may have to reflash the factory RUU and start over. Did that my first time trying to flash, it's a little sucky.
You can also do this from the fast boot bootloader menu with adp push.

Well I forgot upload boot.img can I just do that right now and "install" it? Will it just install CM10 and I should be good from there? Not sure what the adb push is. I have a folder with the documents, boot.img, adb, adbwinapi.dll, and fastboot.
Okay update I got CWM-SuperSU-v0.96.zip installed so I have root access. I also have TWRP installed. I dont think that I have a Kernal on my phone or if it is then its not working correctly. In my bootloader screen it says **tampared** and **unlocked**
I might need to reflash the factory RUU (I assume Factory ROM?) and try again I guess.

You should just be able to select the entire zip and install that through TWRP. I've been told that if your hboot version is 1.14, you might have to fastboot the boot.img separately. The ROM/Kernel set I used both took care of that for me via Aroma installer, but it's something to keep in mind.

Well Im far to newb for this so I will try to put my phone back to RUU and try again another day! After doing more research I found some people say that TWRP 2.3 doesnt work for the AT&T 2.20 and that you have to use 2.2 TWRP. Can anyone confirm this? Also learned quite a bit from this failed attempt. Please tell me if Im correct, Need to unlock the phone with HTCDev, upload the boot.img via fastboot, install TWRP, mount the "sdcard" flash the rest of the rom? Does this sound correct?

I'm on 2.2 using twrp 2.3.1.0. From what I've read, different roms tend to recommend different recovery apps/versions.
As for the ordering of the install process, I would install the recovery first thing after rooting because you'll need that to flash superuser. A lot of installers will actually use superuser during the installation, so you'll want to make sure that's squared away first.
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So you just load the rom after you have your phone unlocked and the recovery app (TWRP) and SuperSU installed?
I really appreciate the help! Thank you!

Sounds like you got it, hope everything goes well. Good luck!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

[Q] 1.85 rooted to scottsrom JB rooted

Ok, I know this is probably already all documented somewhere, but the problem is, there is also lots of out of date info, and I'm not sure how to tell which info is current, and which isn't. This is my first Android phone, so I'm not completely up to speed on the meanings of everything.
I have an AT&T (evita) HOX. Its on 1.8.5 stock, and is rooted. I also set supercid some time ago, in preparation for unlocking it. I didn't proceed with the unlock at that time because I wasn't yet comfortable that everything I wanted backed up was backed up, and everything said unlock would wipe all user data.
I believe I have backup under control now, and I'd like to get to where I can put the "Scottsroms" rooted JB on, and do whatever I need to ensure that I can keep root. I want to stay as close to stock as possible, but with root, and that seems to be the best path for that.
I've been doing a bit of reading (including stuff linked from the rollup thread) and I have some questions I haven't been able to answer.
- Do I need to unlock the BL in order to get S-off? Or, if I S-off, do I not need to unlock the bootloader?
- I see the note about htc blocking supercid unlocking and using all 2's instead - is this still valid?
- I had read CWM didn't support this phone, but now I see something that contradicts that.
Basically, while I understand that there are no guarantees, I'd like to at least avoid doing things that are KNOWN not to work.
FWIW, I am a long time linux user. I have the Android sdk installed with adb and fastboot programs... I'm very comfortable at the command line.
If anyone can suggest what the recommended procedure is, which steps I need, which I should avoid, which info is current, which is out of date, I'd be very thankful.
If more info from me is needed, just let me know...

Megadave123 said:
Ok, I know this is probably already all documented somewhere, but the problem is, there is also lots of out of date info, and I'm not sure how to tell which info is current, and which isn't. This is my first Android phone, so I'm not completely up to speed on the meanings of everything.
I have an AT&T (evita) HOX. Its on 1.8.5 stock, and is rooted. I also set supercid some time ago, in preparation for unlocking it. I didn't proceed with the unlock at that time because I wasn't yet comfortable that everything I wanted backed up was backed up, and everything said unlock would wipe all user data.
I believe I have backup under control now, and I'd like to get to where I can put the "Scottsroms" rooted JB on, and do whatever I need to ensure that I can keep root. I want to stay as close to stock as possible, but with root, and that seems to be the best path for that.
I've been doing a bit of reading (including stuff linked from the rollup thread) and I have some questions I haven't been able to answer.
- Do I need to unlock the BL in order to get S-off? Or, if I S-off, do I not need to unlock the bootloader?
- I see the note about htc blocking supercid unlocking and using all 2's instead - is this still valid?
- I had read CWM didn't support this phone, but now I see something that contradicts that.
Basically, while I understand that there are no guarantees, I'd like to at least avoid doing things that are KNOWN not to work.
FWIW, I am a long time linux user. I have the Android sdk installed with adb and fastboot programs... I'm very comfortable at the command line.
If anyone can suggest what the recommended procedure is, which steps I need, which I should avoid, which info is current, which is out of date, I'd be very thankful.
If more info from me is needed, just let me know...
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Finish unlocking bootloader
Flash recovery twrp 2.3.3.1 or lower being higher versions have mount and wipe bugs.
Backup your current Rom via recovery.
Copy Rom of choice to sd card
Wipe everything except sd card. Wipe cache,dalvik, system, factory reset.
Flash Rom.
If you are on hboot 1.14 or higher you will need to extract boot.img from Rom.zip and flash via fastboot, flash boot boot.img
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

31ken31 said:
Finish unlocking bootloader
Flash recovery twrp 2.3.3.1 or lower being higher versions have mount and wipe bugs.
Backup your current Rom via recovery.
Copy Rom of choice to sd card
Wipe everything but sd card, cache,dalvik, system, factory reset.
Flash Rom. If you are on hboot 1.14 or higher you will need to extract boot.img from Rom.zip and flash via fastboot, flash boot boot.img
Good luck
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Regarding unlocking - can I do it with supercid set, or do I need to change to all 2's ?
Should I do s-off?
I'm on whatever versions of everything are stock for a device shipped with 1.85 - ok, the bootloader screen says hboot is 1.09.0000
I'll search around but are there docs on the specific steps for flashing roms?
BTW, thanks for the quick reply...

Hit install from recovery pick Rom and flash.. don't worry about s-off being on hboot 1.09 u can flash whatever from recovery. Htcdev has 1111111 blocked I think if it is use all 2's
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FWIW supercid seemed to work for unlock just fine...

31ken31 said:
Flash recovery twrp 2.3.3.1 or lower being higher versions have mount and wipe bugs.
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Ok, looking for a bit of an expansion on this, and possibly some second opinions?
Looks like TWRP is up to 2.5.0.0 now, and the changelog shows a number of bugfixes since 2.3.x
Goomanager puts 2.5.0.0 on by default, I installed ROM Manager and it puts CWM..
The rollup page on the HOX says CWM officially supports it now..
The ROM I want says CWM "not supported" - I'm wondering if that is a holdover from when CWM didnt support HOX..

Megadave123 said:
Ok, looking for a bit of an expansion on this, and possibly some second opinions?
Looks like TWRP is up to 2.5.0.0 now, and the changelog shows a number of bugfixes since 2.3.x
Goomanager puts 2.5.0.0 on by default, I installed ROM Manager and it puts CWM..
The rollup page on the HOX says CWM officially supports it now..
The ROM I want says CWM "not supported" - I'm wondering if that is a holdover from when CWM didnt support HOX..
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It's says bugs fixed but it's not fixed.. I don't recommend cwm for this device. Go to twrp website and download 2.3.3.1 and flash it
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What should I do after Sunshine?

So I just upgraded from an iphone, this is my first android. Obviously I want to get rid of the Verizon crap... but what else should I do? And how? What's the first thing I do after Sunshine? And what do you recommend I do?

Read. Read more. And even more. Seriously.
Congrats on throwing off the i-Shackles!!
But if this is your first Android device you have a steep learning curve ahead of you.
If you ran Sunshine successfully you are now S-off, allowing you to truly and irreversibly brick your phone if you go about customizing it to your liking the wrong way.
Read a lot, use the serach function here on XDA and Google in general with abandon! Ask if you diligently searched for hours but cannot find an answer.
Flash only if you really understand what you are getting yourself into.
Always make backups before you try something new and research how to reverse what you are about to do!
Here are a few terms for you start with:
What is:
fastboot, fastboot tutorial
ADB (Android Debug Bridge), basic adb commands
recovery, custom recovery, TWRP recovery
"root" in Android, SuperSU, how to obtain it and what to do with it
Hboot
RUU
custom rom - peruse the Development section here for a plethora of them, read at least the OP of each very carefully
That should keep you busy for a week or so
Have fun

berndblb said:
Read. Read more. And even more. Seriously.
Congrats on throwing off the i-Shackles!!
But if this is your first Android device you have a steep learning curve ahead of you.
If you ran Sunshine successfully you are now S-off, allowing you to truly and irreversibly brick your phone if you go about customizing it to your liking the wrong way.
Read a lot, use the serach function here on XDA and Google in general with abandon! Ask if you diligently searched for hours but cannot find an answer.
Flash only if you really understand what you are getting yourself into.
Always make backups before you try something new and research how to reverse what you are about to do!
Here are a few terms for you start with:
What is:
fastboot, fastboot tutorial
ADB (Android Debug Bridge), basic adb commands
recovery, custom recovery, TWRP recovery
"root" in Android, SuperSU, how to obtain it and what to do with it
Hboot
RUU
custom rom - peruse the Development section here for a plethora of them, read at least the OP of each very carefully
That should keep you busy for a week or so
Have fun
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Thanks! I've done enough poking around to see most of these terms before. I gather I can't do anything after Sunshine without SuperSU, and that TWRP is the next step. Is that right?
1. Sunshine
2. SuperSU
3. TWRP
?

nogginhead said:
Thanks! I've done enough poking around to see most of these terms before. I gather I can't do anything after Sunshine without SuperSU, and that TWRP is the next step. Is that right?
1. Sunshine
2. SuperSU
3. TWRP
?
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With S-OFF and an unlocked boot loader the first step for root would be to flash TWRP recovery via fastboot on your PC. Navagate your way on the phone to boot twrp. After that you can flash superSU. With root you can permanatly uninstall all vzw apps via an app like titanium backup. If you want to go a step further you could flash Clean Rom(pre debloated ROM).
At some point soon your phone will get a OTA(over the air) update if you have twrp installed on your phone you won't be able to update. You will need to backup in twrp. factory RUU your phone(100% back to stock) keep your bootloader unlocked and S-OFF. Take the OTA, flash TWRP, restore your backup..profit! Its a good idea to make a backup in TWRP right when you install it TWRP(that way you have the option to flash the stock recovery and take the OTA)You can't have a modified system when taking an OTA.
Make sure any backup you make is saved on something other than the phone storage. You could lose everything.

PioneerMonster said:
With S-OFF and an unlocked boot loader the first step for root would be to flash TWRP recovery via fastboot on your PC. Navagate your way on the phone to boot twrp. After that you can flash superSU. With root you can permanatly uninstall all vzw apps via an app like titanium backup. If you want to go a step further you could flash Clean Rom(pre debloated ROM).
At some point soon your phone will get a OTA(over the air) update if you have twrp installed on your phone you won't be able to update. You will need to backup in twrp. factory RUU your phone(100% back to stock) keep your bootloader unlocked and S-OFF. Take the OTA, flash TWRP, restore your backup..profit! Its a good idea to make a backup in TWRP right when you install it TWRP(that way you have the option to flash the stock recovery and take the OTA)You can't have a modified system when taking an OTA.
Make sure any backup you make is saved on something other than the phone storage. You could lose everything.
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Perfect for me, many thanks! So:
1. Sunshine
2. TWRP (and make a backup)
3. superSU
4. Titanium backup to get rid of VZW crap.
5. What apps currently unavailable to me am I sure to want? xprivacy? (I'll skip the ROMs for now, I think.)

nogginhead said:
Thanks! I've done enough poking around to see most of these terms before. I gather I can't do anything after Sunshine without SuperSU, and that TWRP is the next step. Is that right?
1. Sunshine
2. SuperSU
3. TWRP
?
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well, with the Sunshine method you are S-OFF which stands for Security Off - AKA Unlocked bootloader.
You can actually control you entire device now that you are sunshine S-OFF. Anything you want - which for new people to HTC and S-OFF can be a disaster. Please make sure to follow everything to a T for instructions as with S-OFF it removes the blocking of things that aren't suppose to be flashed on the phone. With S-ON you can't flash say, an HTC One X Hboot on an HTC One M8, however with S-OFF you can, so be VERY careful and make sure that whatever you flash is 110% for the device you have, and that you check the MD5-checksum.
SuperSU is root. S-OFF = permanent root.
so since you are sunshine S-OFF you can just install the SuperSU and now you have a stock rooted ROM.(I suggest making a nandroid before editing the stock ROM).
If you want to go ahead and mess around with flashing of ROMs, then you would need to flash a custom recovery (I also suggest TWRP)
command is fastboot flash recovery name-of-recovery.img
hope this is helpful.