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[Q] Best way from stock to primo-S-ish and future upgrades

Hello everyone,
here's the situation: I have a HTC Desire S with android 2.3.5 sense 3.0 - 2.10.401.8, s-on, hboot 2.00.0002, radio 3822.10.08.04_M
here's the question: I want to flash it with Primo-S rom (or other one-V related rom with Sense 4a), what's the best way to do it thinking about further upgrades? First of all i need to S-offify my device, the HTCdev method implies to charge a new boot image every time I want to flash a new rom, doesn't it?
Basically, what's the best path to flash primo-S on my device? The best method to s-off and root it, the best radio to use, I'm really confused because I've read many threads with conflicting suggestions. Thanks for your answers, I wish you all my best regards

1. Downgrade your hboot.
2. S-off your phone.
3. Install custom recovery like 4ext
4. Backup your stock system
5. Flash the new radio.
6. Wipe all data system etc
Factory reset and full wipe
Don't wipe sd card
7. Flash primo s or any other Rom of your
choice
8. Done
ATTENTION
Guides for every step can be found here in the forum. I learned everything myself just by reading. I suggest you to read up everything before doing anything.
Ps. You are right regarding that HTCdev unlock. You need to flash the boot.img separately each time you flash a new Rom. So you better get s-off.
And last but not least, something I've red some time ago: if you fail and point at me with your finger, I will laugh at you ;-)

Thanks a lot, and indeed I have the full responsibility of my acts

You should also backup your contacts and maybe applications before wipe your phone. Contacts can be synced with google. for applications, titanium backup is your best friend.

Thanks again and yeah, my contacts are stored on Google, what about sms instead? Does titanium allow to back them up?

I'm using an extra application to backup my sms. Called sms backup & restore.
But I'm sure there is a bunch of other applications for that..
Edit: I don't think titanium can backup and restore your sms. But I have to regret that I'm not sure about that.
Btw on free titanium version you have to restore every single application one by one.. its really worth to buy, since on paid version you can restore them all really easy..

The last question and I won't bother anymore target hboot for downgrade is 0.98.00000, right?

eyahl said:
I'm using an extra application to backup my sms. Called sms backup & restore.
But I'm sure there is a bunch of other applications for that..
Edit: I don't think titanium can backup and restore your sms. But I have to regret that I'm not sure about that.
Btw on free titanium version you have to restore every single application one by one.. its really worth to buy, since on paid version you can restore them all really easy..
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Titanium can restore the SMS, but not across ROM's
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!

motopico said:
The last question and I won't bother anymore target hboot for downgrade is 0.98.00000, right?
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Yep
You're welcome.

Sigh.
I tried to follow the guide for my device, i gain root access on adb using zergrush but when I try to flash through RUU it says "170 error" (USB connection error). Browsing in the forum i saw this answer:
reboot to bootloader. Make sure that on the screen is written "FASTBOOT USB". Run the RUU again
but I don't see any FASTBOOT USB option in the bootloader menu. Suggestions?
Thanks

What options do you see in bootloader? Tell me

Ok here are the steps I followed and gained s-off
I am assuming you are on 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 Hboot 2.0...
- Go to htc dev and unlock your bootloader
- Flash recovery (4EXT recommended)
- Flash any rom which is rooted ( I flashed Europe Stock pre rooted)
- This time you will have to flash boot.img from fastboot
- Follow steps here to downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604255
- Run revolutionary and gain s-off your bootloader will be 6.98,,,
- Upgrade HBOOT using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
- Now you have latest hboot and s-off and you can flash any rom

When a thread does have only two pages, could you please read those two pages before posting?? exactly those steps were posted days ago. Btw. OP doesn't react anymore so I think he solved it by himself.

Yeah I solved thanks to the suggestions given, and the USB problem has been solved applying a filter on the USB device in virtualbox (i had to virtualize to install through RUU and downgrade).
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA

[Q] Uber noob stuck and scared

So I've been reading these forums for days on end now before I touch my phone again. Is my order of things to do correct? (HTC One XL (AT&T))
1. Root
2. Supercid
3. Unlock bootloader
---Currently here---
4. Install CWM/make a backup
5. Relock bootloader
6. Flash a RUU (1.88?)
7. Unlock bootloader
8. Flash a rom
9. Enjoy
As shown above, I rooted, have su on my screen and I can get into the bootloader by vol down+power. I had a scare trying to install RUU 1.85 but I think it failed because my bootloader is unlocked?
Basically everything I do on my phone scares me now. I opened my bootloader today so I can see what stock recovery looked like. I got some weird icons that scared me. I cannot stay where I am because I cannot get OTA updates, and I cannot flash updates myself. HELP!
Thanks, people on this forum are awesome, but you all know too much to be able to write a proper noobs guide.

Valitri said:
So I've been reading these forums for days on end now before I touch my phone again. Is my order of things to do correct? (HTC One XL (AT&T))
1. Root
2. Supercid
3. Unlock bootloader
---Currently here---
4. Install CWM/make a backup
5. Relock bootloader
6. Flash a RUU (1.88?)
7. Unlock bootloader
8. Flash a rom
9. Enjoy
As shown above, I rooted, have su on my screen and I can get into the bootloader by vol down+power. I had a scare trying to install RUU 1.85 but I think it failed because my bootloader is unlocked?
Basically everything I do on my phone scares me now. I opened my bootloader today so I can see what stock recovery looked like. I got some weird icons that scared me. I cannot stay where I am because I cannot get OTA updates, and I cannot flash updates myself. HELP!
Thanks, people on this forum are awesome, but you all know too much to be able to write a proper noobs guide.
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Those steps are correct EXCEPT for 5, 6 and 7. You don't need those if you're flashing a custom rom, only if you're staying official and using an RUU. We can flash insecure boot.img files now which allow us to jump around firmware versions without blowing up. Just make sure you do a factory reset from recovery before flashing a new custom rom to prevent any weird bugs (you can use Titanium Backup to backup all your apps). Also, I would personally recommend flashing TWRP over CWM. It's a little more friendly in terms of UI and has a bit more functionality baked in.
Edit: And just FYI, the RUU did fail because your bootloader was unlocked. And now you know.

Are you on 1.85 already? If so you are set. But if you aren't, relock the downloader by connecting your phone to your computer via USB in fastboot and typing fastboot OEM lock, upgrade to 1.85 and then unlock the bootloader once again.

stnguyen09 said:
Those steps are correct EXCEPT for 5, 6 and 7. You don't need those if you're flashing a custom rom, only if you're staying official and using an RUU. We can flash insecure boot.img files now which allow us to jump around firmware versions without blowing up. Just make sure you do a factory reset from recovery before flashing a new custom rom to prevent any weird bugs (you can use Titanium Backup to backup all your apps). Also, I would personally recommend flashing TWRP over CWM. It's a little more friendly in terms of UI and has a bit more functionality baked in.
Edit: And just FYI, the RUU did fail because your bootloader was unlocked. And now you know.
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Thanks for confirming why the RUU failed. I was scared because it never said it failed or errored. I let it run for 90+ minutes and finally did a hard reset on my phone.
I downloaded Titanium but I don't understand where the backups go. How to save them or how to use them for recovery. I also don't understand how people talk about this phone having an SD card when it doesn't.
I saw TWRP and it looked like the better option but I thought a lot of the roms needed CWM to flash from. I guess I really don't fully understand how to flash a rom then.
This is so weird because I jailbroke my iPhone 3g, and tried multiple roms on my cousins Droid X a long time ago.
Easy question. If you stick with roms, any reason to ever relock the bootloader?
Thanks

Lilshaun said:
Are you on 1.85 already? If so you are set. But if you aren't, relock the downloader by connecting your phone to your computer via USB in fastboot and typing fastboot OEM lock, upgrade to 1.85 and then unlock the bootloader once again.
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I'm on 1.73
As the previous poster said, if I want custom roms I shouldn't even bother with the RUU? Is the RUU just a way to get the most updated factory settings because of root? Also do RUUs cancel root?

Valitri said:
Thanks for confirming why the RUU failed. I was scared because it never said it failed or errored. I let it run for 90+ minutes and finally did a hard reset on my phone.
I downloaded Titanium but I don't understand where the backups go. How to save them or how to use them for recovery. I also don't understand how people talk about this phone having an SD card when it doesn't.
I saw TWRP and it looked like the better option but I thought a lot of the roms needed CWM to flash from. I guess I really don't fully understand how to flash a rom then.
This is so weird because I jailbroke my iPhone 3g, and tried multiple roms on my cousins Droid X a long time ago.
Easy question. If you stick with roms, any reason to ever relock the bootloader?
Thanks
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1. You never need to relock the bl unless you're RUU'ing
2. TWRP and CWM do the same thing, what you can do with one you can pretty much assume you can do with the other
3. Titanium Backup (I refer to it as TiBu) stores the backup files on your phone in a Titanium Backup folder on your sd card. You use the TiBu app itself to batch restore your apps. So this mean you're gonna have to redownload it manually from the Play Store after a factory wipe. You also have the option or restoring your apps with data and also restoring system data. In my experience, restoring system data is always a bad idea and will cause weird behavior. Restoring app data also sometimes has weird consequences, depending on the app, so I usually just restore my apps without data and individually restore data to apps I know will have no issue and are a pain to set up again.
4. We refer to it as an sd card because it technically still is one, just soldered onto the board.
5. Yes, RUU will get rid of root. It returns your phone to its factory state (except it doesn't touch your user data)
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Lilshaun said:
Are you on 1.85 already? If so you are set. But if you aren't, relock the downloader by connecting your phone to your computer via USB in fastboot and typing fastboot OEM lock, upgrade to 1.85 and then unlock the bootloader once again.
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Upgrading to 1.85 isn't necessary since we can flash boot.img and jump between versions

Thank you. I will run a backup from titanium and download it to my computer. Then I will flash TWRP, then try some roms.

Valitri said:
Thank you. I will run a backup from titanium and download it to my computer. Then I will flash TWRP, then try some roms.
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You can have TiBu sync to a Dropbox, Google Drive, or Box account too. The scheduling feature is real nice. I have mine running the 2 default scheduled backup tasks every morning at 6am and then automatically uploading to Google Drive provided that I am plugged in and on WiFi.
I have it run every morning just in case I do something stupid during the day.
Oh and make sure to watch your internal storage space. CWM/TWRP backups take up A LOT of space, around 1GB (that's off the top of my head, I know it's around there somewhere). Manage your backups carefully, deleting ones you don't need.

you dont need to bootloader unlock before you upgrade to 1.85. just get the unlock code and then, with a locked bootloader, update RUU to 1.85. then afterwards unlock bootloader with unlock code.bin.

Valitri said:
Thank you. I will run a backup from titanium and download it to my computer. Then I will flash TWRP, then try some roms.
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Titanium is just for backing up apps not the entire phone. Sorry if you knew that, it just sounded like you didn't.
You need to flash TWRP and do a backup with it. This will backup your entire phone. In case you ever run into issues you know that you have a backup of your phone from when it was fully functional. This stays on your phone and if you ever need to restore it you do so from within TWRP.

pside15 said:
Titanium is just for backing up apps not the entire phone. Sorry if you knew that, it just sounded like you didn't.
You need to flash TWRP and do a backup with it. This will backup your entire phone. In case you ever run into issues you know that you have a backup of your phone from when it was fully functional. This stays on your phone and if you ever need to restore it you do so from within TWRP.
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Right, think of a TWRP/CWM backup as the equivalent of a Windows System Restore Point or a Mac Time Machine Backup. It's pretty much a snapshot of your system that you can jump back to in order to revert anything you did that screwed things up.

[Q] Paranoid noob question regarding S-off and previous Bootloader

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.
1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?
2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.
Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much

fashofasho said:
I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.
1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?
2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.
Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much
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when you did S-OFF in order to install Cyanogen JB first you had to flash the latest fw version and then the rom
the rom you tried to install requires the latest fw version
now are you still s-off?
what is now your hboot version?
what is your fw version?

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.
1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?
2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.
Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much
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1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.
2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)
Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.
If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.
If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!
Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.
It should not boot.
This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!
I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.

Skipjacks said:
1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.
2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)
Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.
If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.
If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!
Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.
It should not boot.
This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!
I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.
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i got confused
.i think your answer is going for fashofasho

Skipjacks said:
1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.
2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)
Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.
If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.
If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!
Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.
It should not boot.
This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!
I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.
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Thanks for the reply. Okay so here is where I am currently at. I haven't done anything since I reflashed stock ROM throguh RUU after the fail cyanogen flash. On this stock ROM whenever I load into bootloader it still says s-off 1.17 but I did lose my clockworkmod. So according to your instructions I should either clockworkmod again or 4ext now, that's okay right? If so, going to flash firmware then cyanogen!! Or is there a problem that I have s-off but not recovery.
P.s. there is no point in running revolutionary and have it s-off again when I already have it right, just thought it might be necessary to make things fresh

If you have a bootable phone right now this is easy as you may not need adb or fast boot or anything.
First off you will need to install 4ext. Get the app from the Play Store. Then run it and let it install its recovery module. (You may need to be rooted to do thus, which your stock rom is not. Im not sure if you can flash the recovery without root or not because Ive never tried without root. If so, then you will have to install Superuser via fastboot I think. You any guide for rooting to get instructions on this. Its easy.)
You may also find a way to install 4ext recovery via flashing from bootloader, but you will have to search for that. You MAY even be able to install it with the firmware upgrade. You will have to see if that is an available option.
Get your firmware from this thread...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Follow the instructions to update. Once you have 3.3x firmware and 4ext simply boot to recovery, do a full wipe, and flash cm10 (make sure cm10 is on your sd card. You can download it from your currently working gingerbread rom so you have it available)
You have like 15-20 minutes worth of work to do, so its not a monumental obstacle to overcome. It just seems like alot
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app

Skipjacks said:
If you have a bootable phone right now this is easy as you may not need adb or fast boot or anything.
First off you will need to install 4ext. Get the app from the Play Store. Then run it and let it install its recovery module. (You may need to be rooted to do thus, which your stock rom is not. Im not sure if you can flash the recovery without root or not because Ive never tried without root. If so, then you will have to install Superuser via fastboot I think. You any guide for rooting to get instructions on this. Its easy.)
You may also find a way to install 4ext recovery via flashing from bootloader, but you will have to search for that. You MAY even be able to install it with the firmware upgrade. You will have to see if that is an available option.
Get your firmware from this thread...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Follow the instructions to update. Once you have 3.3x firmware and 4ext simply boot to recovery, do a full wipe, and flash cm10 (make sure cm10 is on your sd card. You can download it from your currently working gingerbread rom so you have it available)
You have like 15-20 minutes worth of work to do, so its not a monumental obstacle to overcome. It just seems like alot
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I am not rooted but am S-off. So my next step would be to root. I am suppose to have Clockworkmod to root AND 4EXT after right? Its not one or the other? I keep reading that people recommend 4ext is better than CWM but in order to root su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip I need CWM first correct?

fashofasho said:
I am not rooted but am S-off. So my next step would be to root. I am suppose to have Clockworkmod to root AND 4EXT after right? Its not one or the other? I keep reading that people recommend 4ext is better than CWM but in order to root su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip I need CWM first correct?
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flash su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip first and then install 4ext recovery

You're over engineering this. You don't need to root your current ROM first. That's an extra step since you're s-off.
If you are s-off it's really simple to get 4EXT recovery.
First, download this and put it on the root directory of your SD Card (meaning not in a folder, just on the SD Card. Do not rename it)
http://d-h.st/qnm
I got this download link from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21989107
Click Thanks for Joaquinf in that thread. He made the 4EXT zip that's flashable through the bootloader.
That is 4EXT made into a zip file that's flashable via the bootloader, which you can do when you are S-off.
So put that file on the SD card, power the phone off, pull the battery out for a second and put it back in (this stops fastboot so you can get back to the bootloader). Then hold volume down and power at the same time. You have to hit both buttons at the same time. If it goes to the splash screen, pull the battery and try again.
When the bootloader loads up it will immediately find the PM58IMG.zip file. It will ask you if you want to install the update. Say yes by hitting volume up I think (it will tell you how to say yes)
Put the phone down and don't touch it until it tells you it's done. Should just take a second. But seriously don't touch it. Leave it alone.
If that works, you've just flashed 4EXT. You can check it by pulling the SD card out (so it doesn't try to flash the PM58IMG again) and rebooting to the bootloader and selecting 'recovery' from the menu. 4EXT should boot up.
This entire process so far shouldn't take more than 3 minutes total. It just sounds like a lot.
To see this detailed out by someone else in case you want to check what I'm saying, read steps 4 and 5 of the first post in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21989063&postcount=1
Give the author 'thanks' again because he's awesome and deserves it.
Now you've got 4EXT installed. Great. You're 1/3rd of the way home.
Now you need to update your firmware. Delete the PM58IMG.zip file you used to flash 4EXT off the SD card (use a card reader or boot the phone up and delete it, whatever works. You can also use 4EXT as a card reader now too by choosing USB storage from inside 4EXT. It will give you access toteh SD card on your computer now)
Now get new Firmware from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21711154#post21711154
try the 3.33 firmware universal. First download link in post 2 of the thread above.
CHECK THE MD5 SUM!!!! I'M NOT PLAYING AROUND HERE!!! You are worried about bricking your phone, this is where you can do it if the firmware .zip is bad.
Put that PM58IMG file on your SD and flash it in the bootloader the same way you flashed 4EXT recovery a minute ago. (If you're still in 4EXT recovery you can use it's power menu to reboot into bootloader easily.)
This will take a minute. The phone will shut off and go black in the middle of this process. Your heart will skip a beat. Relax. It'll come back on. Again, put the phone down and walk away while it does it's thing and don't touch it until it says it's done.
Delete the PM58IMG file from your SD card.
You are now 2/3 of the way there. Your phone WILL NOT boot up right now because your ROM is not compatible with your firmware. Relax. That's supposed to happen.
Now you can flash CM10. Make sure you have the CM10.zip file on your SD card nad GApps. (Bruce has Gapps in his downloads page). Delete the PM58IMG firmware file from your SD card (that's important)
Pull the battery again so you can get back into bootloader. Get into bootloader (power + volume down)
Select Recovery
4EXT should boot up.
Go to the Wipe menu. Wipe all partitions except SD card. (Old ROM is now gone)
Go back to the main menu.
Install from SD
Find the CM10.zip file you should have downloaded and put onto the SD card. Flash it.
This will take about 3 minutes. 4EXT will flash it and ask if you want to reboot. You do not yet. Not you need to flash Gapps the same way you flashed the ROM.
When that's done, now you can reboot. You shoudl see the CyanogenMod boot animation after the splash screen. Give it a few minutes to boot up this first time. Once it boots, set it up the way you like it. If you enjoy it, donate a few bucks to the developer, Bruce.
You don't have to root CM10. It's already rooted when you boot it up the first time.

[Q] Rooted ICS to JB - check my sanity please :)

After two weeks of forum crawling and surviving 2 soft-bricking incidents, I've finally decided to reach out for help from the experts :crying:
Currently I have an ATT HOX, unlocked/rooted/SuperCID - running stock ICS (4.0.4).
My goal is to get JB on it and then flash to Blade ROM (I tried flashing to Blade with ICS - OOPS!)
Even though the info is on the forums - it's not all together in a streamlined format for me to follow - I feel I could get lost and screw it up (again)
From what I gathered from reading - here is what I "think" I need to do from my current phone state:
1. Facepalm S-Off
2. Install OTA Rootkeeper then backup root
3. Flash stock recovery
4. Re-Lock Bootloader
5. Flash OTA ATT JB.zip using stock recovery
6. Unlock Bootloader
7. Flash TWRP
8. Restore backup root with OTA RK
9. Flash Blade ROM
Can someone please check my thinking and make sure I'm not missing something?
Or any recommendation of an easier process? I feel I'm going to get lost somewhere in those steps and end up in Oz.
Or maybe a recommendation on an awesome ICS Rom? (so I can avoid confusing myself)
I'm terrified of another 3AM morning and a bricked-out HOX.
Thanks in advance!

Do you mean this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2134328?
Because that's a rom for the quad-core Tegra One X. If you've been doing that, it's no wonder you got bricked.
You don't need OTA Rootkeeper. You can just flash a rooted rom.

2 major points:
1) As already mentioned, Blade is not for our phone, its for the quad core One X. Stay within this forum section. If you are looking at any XDA thread that just says "HTC One X" (no mention of "AT&T, Rogers" etc.) near the top of the screen, you are in the wrong section. Stick to the forum section that mentions AT&T. Flashing a ROM for the quad core version won't work, and might also hard brick your phone.
2) Aside from S-Off which is a good idea) you don't need to mess with any of the stuff you mentioned (Rootkeeper, stock recovery, OTA zip) in order to flash a JB based custom ROM if you are already bootloader unlocked and have TWRP. With S-off, just flash the ROM. If S-on, just flash the ROM, then flash the boot.img with fastboot (if hboot 1.14 or higher).
I'm not sure how you got the notion that you need to do all these other steps (maybe some process for the quad core forum?).

redpoint73 said:
I'm not sure how you got the notion that you need to do all these other steps (maybe some process for the quad core forum?).
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<---- desperate noob
...and I also came from the original Samsung Vibrant. With that phone, I also had the idea that I could only use a ROM based of the current android version. Hence the carry over of thought from that side.
I can't believe I lost sleep over the simplicity of it all.
But.... just to make sure I understand this correctly - Even if I have ICS currently installed, I can flash a JB based ROM without issues?
Thanks a ton guys!

razorc03 said:
But.... just to make sure I understand this correctly - Even if I have ICS currently installed, I can flash a JB based ROM without issues?
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Correct you can flash it.
But some people have been having issues on JB coming from older firmware. If you have problems later, then ruu'ing and updating is warranted. Right now it's overkill.

iElvis said:
Correct you can flash it.
But some people have been having issues on JB coming from older firmware. If you have problems later, then ruu'ing and updating is warranted. Right now it's overkill.
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Would I be able to RUU to a stock JB? Or would I have to start from stock ICS again?

razorc03 said:
Would I be able to RUU to a stock JB? Or would I have to start from stock ICS again?
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There are no JB ruu's as far as I know. But you can run the 2.20 ruu and then flash the 3.18 ota, then unlock again and reflash everything. That's what I did. Whole process took about half an hour and wasn't complicated. Just be sure you're s-off.

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There are no JB ruu's as far as I know. But you can run the 2.20 ruu and then flash the 3.18 ota, then unlock again and reflash everything. That's what I did. Whole process took about half an hour and wasn't complicated. Just be sure you're s-off.
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Thanks for the info. But I need to bug you again.:angel:
A few questions about the ruu method. After you ruu, does that remove root, lock bootloader, and goes back to s-on?
And since I love numbered steps, here is how I am viewing it with my inexperienced understanding with question marks:
1. Check for S-off
2. Lock bootloader? (I guess not with S-off)
3. Run ruu 2.20 exe
4. Flash 3.18 ota
5. Rerun superCID (X-Factor xploit)?
6. Unlock bootloader
7. Flash TWRP
8. Flash ROM (Assuming S-off wasn't changed during the ruu)
I would love to be at your confidence level to run it it 30 minutes. One day I guess....

Before you run a ruu, you have to relock. When you run it, it wipes your entire phone and returns it to stock-out-of-the-box (except for s-off). So you need to back up anything you want to keep.
Here's a corrected list:
1. S-off
2. Relock in fastboot
3. Run ruu
4. Copy OTA update.zip to internal storage
5. Flash in stock recovery
6. Unlock
7. Flash custom recovery
8. Flash rooted rom
None of this affects s-off. AFAIK, the only way to be s-on again is manually change it in fastboot.
I wouldn't do all this unless you have a reason to, as there are spots in here where you can get tripped up if you're a complete noob.

iElvis said:
Before you run a ruu, you have to relock. When you run it, it wipes your entire phone and returns it to stock-out-of-the-box (except for s-off). So you need to back up anything you want to keep.
Here's a corrected list:
1. S-off
2. Relock in fastboot
3. Run ruu
4. Copy OTA update.zip to internal storage
5. Flash in stock recovery
6. Unlock
7. Flash custom recovery
8. Flash rooted rom
None of this affects s-off. AFAIK, the only way to be s-on again is manually change it in fastboot.
I wouldn't do all this unless you have a reason to, as there are spots in here where you can get tripped up if you're a complete noob.
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Thanks for the checklist! It makes me feel safer to know an exit strategy so I don't panic if/when stuff goes bad.
I noticed you didn't list a step to re-root through custom recovery after step 7. Is the previous root still in place?

razorc03 said:
...and I also came from the original Samsung Vibrant. With that phone, I also had the idea that I could only use a ROM based of the current android version. Hence the carry over of thought from that side.
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This varies completely by device, and firmware versions. Never assume that something you learned on another Android device applies to a different device.

razorc03 said:
I noticed you didn't list a step to re-root through custom recovery after step 7. Is the previous root still in place?
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No, it's that once you're unlocked, you can re-root just by flashing a rooted rom.

[Q] Htc One X Unique problem

So as a n00b, I posted in the wrong forum earlier, lol
Anyways , long story short, htc one x evita, unlocked bootloader, tampered, rooted, will not flash past htc splash screen, when I try to restore, it does nothing, when going into folders there is NOTHING there, so random, I did clear my caches as instructed, maybe I am n00bish and deleted the wrong things, I can read the phone in adb, will go into teamwin screen,
REgardless, If I can get this fixed, I will not be messing with it again, lol(as all noobs say)
IS there anything I can do at this point before I throw my hands in the air and throw my phone at a wall?

Far from unique. It's possible that you've accidentally wiped the sd at some point, or did you possibly do a factory reset from the bootloader? Why haven't you just copied a ROM to the device to flash?
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timmaaa said:
Far from unique. It's possible that you've accidentally wiped the sd at some point, or did you possibly do a factory reset from the bootloader? Why haven't you just copied a ROM to the device to flash?
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HI, I may have wiped the sd, let's say sure to this..lol..
I have tried to copy a rom, I had Viper somewhat load, then it flashes back to htc splash, then to twrp,
Any insite to one that may possibly work?(the others will not load at all, they all fail install)

I need a bit more background on the device, please post your bootloader details (the first five lines). What TWRP version are you using? What had you done to the device directly before encountering this problem?
When you say you had Viper somewhat load what do you mean? Did it boot into the ROM at all? Or did it only boot as far as the Viper boot animation? Or did it only make it as far as the HTC splash screen?
I can't really say what's going to work until we figure out exactly what's wrong. Make sure you answer all the above questions with as much relevant detail as possible and we'll see if we can sort it out.
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timmaaa said:
I need a bit more background on the device, please post your bootloader details (the first five lines). What TWRP version are you using? What had you done to the device directly before encountering this problem?
When you say you had Viper somewhat load what do you mean? Did it boot into the ROM at all? Or did it only boot as far as the Viper boot animation? Or did it only make it as far as the HTC splash screen?
I can't really say what's going to work until we figure out exactly what's wrong. Make sure you answer all the above questions with as much relevant detail as possible and we'll see if we can sort it out.
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First off, thank you for your prompt replies
Venom loaded splash screen, then reboot to htc splash with the red developer on the bottom
twrp is the newest one
first 5 lines are you meaning?
*** TAMPERED ****
*** UNLOCKED ****
Evita put ship s-on rl
hboot-2.14.0000
radio-0.23a.32.09.29
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Well I tried to load the stock RUU from rogers, (ota one)
then after rooting,unlocking bootloader, I tried to load a custom rom(slimkat IIRC)
then IT shut down, I left it for the night, and then nothing, so I tried to install slimkat again, nothing, so I tried venom, and I had the splash screen for the rom, now I am basically back at square one, nothing lol

Yes those are the bootloader details I needed. When you say the latest TWRP I'm assuming you mean 2.6.3.0? There are two versions of 2.6.3.0, the official version and the modified version.
Official version
Can flash any ROM except 4.4 ROMs. If you're using this one it is why SlimKat (plus any other 4.4 ROM) is failing to install.
Modified version
This is required to flash 4.4 ROMs. It does work on some pre 4.4 ROMs but it doesn't on others.
The most common cause for your current situation to happen is that you've forgotten to flash the boot.img with fastboot. Your phone is s-on, this means that the boot.img is unable to be flashed during the recovery install due to security restrictions on hboots equal to or greater than 1.14. So, make sure you're using the correct recovery for the ROM you want to flash (official 2.6.3.0 for Viper, modified 2.6.3.0 for 4.4 ROMs), and make sure you flash the boot.img with fastboot. I have detailed instructions on how to flash a boot.img in my How-To Guide For Beginners thread, link in my signature.
Do that and report back with how you go.
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Yes those are the bootloader details I needed. When you say the latest TWRP I'm assuming you mean 2.6.3.0? There are two versions of 2.6.3.0, the official version and the modified version.
Official version
Can flash any ROM except 4.4 ROMs. If you're using this one it is why SlimKat (plus any other 4.4 ROM) is failing to install.
Modified version
This is required to flash 4.4 ROMs. It does work on some pre 4.4 ROMs but it doesn't on others.
The most common cause for your current situation to happen is that you've forgotten to flash the boot.img with fastboot. Your phone is s-on, this means that the boot.img is unable to be flashed during the recovery install due to security restrictions on hboots equal to or greater than 1.14. So, make sure you're using the correct recovery for the ROM you want to flash (official 2.6.3.0 for Viper, modified 2.6.3.0 for 4.4 ROMs), and make sure you flash the boot.img with fastboot. I have detailed instructions on how to flash a boot.img in my How-To Guide For Beginners thread, link in my signature.
Do that and report back with how you go.
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Thank you so very much, once again with the quick replies and the "dumming" it down for me,
I will try in a little bit, to be honest, im not sure what twrp it is, I know its 2.3.6.0, it was the newest one,
in your instructions is there a way to boot just back to stock rom as well?(my pc is horrible, if I load more then one page it dies off lol) I will try this when I get home in a little bit herre.

I can almost positively say you're on the official version of TWRP, you'd need to go out of your way to find the modified one usually. With your phone in its current state you can't use an RUU to go back to stock. The latest Rogers RUU is older than your current firmware and you can't run an older RUU while s-on. If you made a TWRP backup of your stock ROM before wiping you could restore that backup though.
Your best and easiest option right now is to just flash a ROM. Once you've gotten a custom ROM booted up my guess is you won't want to go back to stock
Once you've gotten a ROM booted you can get s-off on your device which will make life a lot easier for you. It means no more flashing a boot.img, you'll be able to flash radios, you can run any Evita RUU (forwards or backwards, and from any carrier), and more benefits. But for now just concentrate on getting the ROM booting.
I'm assuming you have adb/fastboot installed on your PC already? If not you'll need to do that first, Google search "minimal adb and fastboot", the first result should take you to a thread that can get it done with very little effort.
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timmaaa said:
I can almost positively say you're on the official version of TWRP, you'd need to go out of your way to find the modified one usually. With your phone in its current state you can't use an RUU to go back to stock. The latest Rogers RUU is older than your current firmware and you can't run an older RUU while s-on. If you made a TWRP backup of your stock ROM before wiping you could restore that backup though.
Your best and easiest option right now is to just flash a ROM. Once you've gotten a custom ROM booted up my guess is you won't want to go back to stock
Once you've gotten a ROM booted you can get s-off on your device which will make life a lot easier for you. It means no more flashing a boot.img, you'll be able to flash radios, you can run any Evita RUU (forwards or backwards, and from any carrier), and more benefits. But for now just concentrate on getting the ROM booting.
I'm assuming you have adb/fastboot installed on your PC already? If not you'll need to do that first, Google search "minimal adb and fastboot", the first result should take you to a thread that can get it done with very little effort.
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Yes I have a basic Adb/fastboot setup already, is there a particular rom you recommend?(I will trust your best judgement here) I am home now, I will try and let you know
Thank you again

Asking for a ROM recommendation isn't allowed on XDA so I can't answer that question, here's why. To say one ROM is better is to infer that the others are inferior in some way. This is disrespectful to the devs who spend their spare time bringing us these awesome ROMs free of charge.
Each user has different tastes anyway. Some people like Sense ROMs, some like aosp ROMs. Personally I'm an aosp guy, aosp ROMs are generally a bit snappier, plus you can run the latest version of Android (Sense ROMs are limited to 4.2.2 for our device). I'd suggest having a look at the ROMs on offer, check out their features and pick one to flash. If you don't end up liking it you can always just flash another, and that's half the fun.
As a side note, getting s-off via Rumrunner s-off seems to work better on Sense ROMs. I know someone very recently got s-off while on the Kickdroid ROM so if you do want to get s-off I'd suggest flashing that ROM purely for the s-off process. You might like it and want to stay on it, if not just flash away.
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timmaaa said:
Asking for a ROM recommendation isn't allowed on XDA so I can't answer that question, here's why. To say one ROM is better is to infer that the others are inferior in some way. This is disrespectful to the devs who spend their spare time bringing us these awesome ROMs free of charge.
Each user has different tastes anyway. Some people like Sense ROMs, some like aosp ROMs. Personally I'm an aosp guy, aosp ROMs are generally a bit snappier, plus you can run the latest version of Android (Sense ROMs are limited to 4.2.2 for our device). I'd suggest having a look at the ROMs on offer, check out their features and pick one to flash. If you don't end up liking it you can always just flash another, and that's half the fun.
As a side note, getting s-off via Rumrunner s-off seems to work better on Sense ROMs. I know someone very recently got s-off while on the Kickdroid ROM so if you do want to get s-off I'd suggest flashing that ROM purely for the s-off process. You might like it and want to stay on it, if not just flash away.
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I understand and apologize, Never thought of it that way,
Anyways an update, I followed your tutorial, and I am not having much luck here, It still maintains to say NO OS installed (through twrp when rebooting after I do adb and such)
maybe I am missing something ?

Adb or fastboot?
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Adb or fastboot?
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Fastboot,
Small update I did manage to get a rootbox rom to load, but its not stable by anymeans...Ugh super frustrated with it

Are you wiping in TWRP before flashing? It's very important to wipe system/factory reset/cache/dalvik cache before installing a ROM. Just never do a factory reset in the bootloader, that'll corrupt your sd card.
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Are you wiping in TWRP before flashing? It's very important to wipe system/factory reset/cache/dalvik cache before installing a ROM. Just never do a factory reset in the bootloader, that'll corrupt your sd card.
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Yes to wiping before flashing in TWRP just those ones mentioned, (if you do sd you loose your flash right?), anyways the rom I flashed yesterday was super unstable, just trying a few diff. ones out and trying to find one that will continue to stay working lol!! Your tutorial in your signature is very helpful
thank you so much for all your help,and patience

Yeah you don't want to wipe sd card/internal storage or you'll lose all of your personal data like images, music, ROM zips, backups.
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Yeah you don't want to wipe sd card/internal storage or you'll lose all of your personal data like images, music, ROM zips, backups.
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Oh this is a clean phone, I already backed up on pc Before lol
Question though, I installed Viper again(just to try it) and it loads a menu showing ram, one of the memory sections shows -1? is this correct?

On a side note, I got Venom up and running and WOW!!!
once again, a super thank you for your patience and help all along Timmaaa,

I'm not sure what you're talking about, is that after booting into the ROM? Can you show me a screenshot?
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I'm not sure what you're talking about, is that after booting into the ROM? Can you show me a screenshot?
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it was while I was installing, everything seems fine, still no wifi(original issue)
im thinking the logic board may be buggered...sad day...lol
But, it is fast as heck now, running venom rom, I will try to get S-off and then maybe try to get it so I can load up the 4.4X roms
Thanks for all the help