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[Q] ICS ota with half root?

I want to be sure my DS can receive and install the imminent (?) ota ICS from HTC. Still a bit of a noob so read a lot of stuff on here and other forums (mainly non DS) but haven't really found definitive answers for the 'half rooted' device i.e. bootloader unlocked via htcdev, cwm flashed, s-on.
Main concerns are:
losing root
ota will not install because of /system/app and framework mismatch (after a few UOT mods) - boot animation and sound have also been changed in /system/customise/resource, also bloatware removed
ota issues with cwm installed
Originally first thing I did immediately after flashing cwm was a nandroid backup so that's available to me, which really only leaves the cwm and ota compatability question.
Is Rootkeeper an option or should I root from scratch again after ota?
If I receive notification of the ota availability, then restore from original backup (and maybe relock bootloader with htcdev?) will I then have lost the chance to install the ota?
A lot of questions and ifs, I know, I just don't want to screw up the chance to try the official ICS before going for a custom rom. Thanks in advance.
Hboot 2.00.0002
Android 2.3.5
Sense 3.0
Stock rom/kernel/radio

Sorry, I'm pretty sure HTC Dev unlocked devices can't get OTA updates. I'm completely sure devices with CWM can't (you need stock HTC recovery). Since you already have a custom recovery, it would be better to get a custom ROM, much fastr and tweaked

As shrome99 said..
To get the OTA update you will need to have STOCK recovery, and a relocked bootloader to get the OTA.
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This assumes you are 100% stock on the operating side.

foX2delta said:
As shrome99 said..
To get the OTA update you will need to have STOCK recovery, and a relocked bootloader to get the OTA.
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This assumes you are 100% stock on the operating side.
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I got OTA updates with both an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery. It's true the update won't install till you're back on stock recovery but the locked bootloader isn't necessary. I was however updating from Stock Sense 2.1

Warning: do not install it if you get a OTA message if rooted!
It will lead to the dreaded red triangle screen. Your best bet is to just install CWM/4EXT then when the new update comes, install the ICS prerooted ROM by Adidas.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

The "dreaded" triangle screen is just the stock recovery.

Jack_R1 said:
The "dreaded" triangle screen is just the stock recovery.
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That won't boot back to your ROM therefore you are stuck.
No root/s-off, therefore you can't do much about it. (Unless you get the RUU to run)
And for the average user, this is difficult for them to understand. Hence it has picked up its name as the 'dreaded triangle screen' over several different HTC device threads.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Cheers for the input.. did a bit more snooping and (if and when I get the ota shout).. I think I can go back with original nandroid to pre-root, before superuser went in. Then I'll give Android Recovery Manager (Sensation Android Development forum) a lash, just to see if I can flash back the stock recovery img.
If any nice ota comes my way which won't take then I'll try htcdev to relock the bootloader and give it another lash!
Think (hope) it'll work.. couldn't find a stock img anywhere yet so I'm hoping it's included in the above manager.. was going to try tonight but, typical, my connection went..
'Your best bet is to just install CWM/4EXT then when the new update comes, install the ICS prerooted ROM by Adidas.'
I have cwm, not sure why I would wait for the update then install a custom ics rom..

You must install stock recovery to install OTA update.OTA won't install, if you have custom recovery or S-off.But I recommend to install ROM, using zip or RUU.

From htcdev:
(after unlocking bootloader) Some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed any more because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC. Furthermore, although you will still be able to receive updates to your device via FOTA (“firmware over the air”), we do not guarantee that updating your device via FOTA will not render your device unusable.
That answers the question re the bootloader but I'm struggling to find the stock recovery img to flash.
I suppose I can extract and then flash it, possibly from this: RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe, even though my device is 2.10.161.3 (161 is Vodafone). The radio is the same as mine which is irrelevant anyway, right?
I know it would be easier to install the RUU but after hours of research I would really like to be able to nail this so I have the option of reverting back to VF stock, as I still have 18 months warranty left.
Can anyone can confirm if I'm on the right track pls?

I suppose, if you haven't GoldCard or SuperCID recovery won't flash(signature verify failed).Download Zip/exe of your ROM , and flash that recovery.After that you might be able to install FOTA.No guarantee it will work.

scandron said:
I suppose, if you haven't GoldCard or SuperCID recovery won't flash(signature verify failed).Download Zip/exe of your ROM , and flash that recovery.After that you might be able to install FOTA.No guarantee it will work.
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It will flash, because his bootloader is unlocked.
He won't need a goldcard cause he is flashing a voda RUU recover, future I don't think it will even come into play when using fastboot to flash it.
However I suggest EVERYONE who is a little unsure make a goldcard.

Thanks all, trying to get a gold card now just to be sure.. however just intend to extract and flash the recovery img from the ruu, once I can be sure I have the right one.. the stock recovery in HTC devices is generic, no?

i also have a doubt.
what i wanted to know is that will i still be able to update my device OTA if i have unlocked the bootloader, rooted my device but havent installed a custom recovery?my device is rooted nothing more than that. and after relocking my bootloader (i dont mind loosing root) will i be able to update OTA?
sorry for being irrelevant but i didnt want to start a new thread for a doubt of this magnitude.

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[Q] Paranoid noob question regarding S-off and previous Bootloader

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.
1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?
2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.
Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much

fashofasho said:
I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.
1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?
2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.
Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much
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when you did S-OFF in order to install Cyanogen JB first you had to flash the latest fw version and then the rom
the rom you tried to install requires the latest fw version
now are you still s-off?
what is now your hboot version?
what is your fw version?

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.
1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?
2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.
Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much
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1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.
2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)
Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.
If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.
If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!
Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.
It should not boot.
This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!
I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.

Skipjacks said:
1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.
2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)
Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.
If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.
If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!
Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.
It should not boot.
This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!
I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.
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i got confused
.i think your answer is going for fashofasho

Skipjacks said:
1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.
2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)
Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.
If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.
If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!
Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.
It should not boot.
This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!
I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.
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Thanks for the reply. Okay so here is where I am currently at. I haven't done anything since I reflashed stock ROM throguh RUU after the fail cyanogen flash. On this stock ROM whenever I load into bootloader it still says s-off 1.17 but I did lose my clockworkmod. So according to your instructions I should either clockworkmod again or 4ext now, that's okay right? If so, going to flash firmware then cyanogen!! Or is there a problem that I have s-off but not recovery.
P.s. there is no point in running revolutionary and have it s-off again when I already have it right, just thought it might be necessary to make things fresh

If you have a bootable phone right now this is easy as you may not need adb or fast boot or anything.
First off you will need to install 4ext. Get the app from the Play Store. Then run it and let it install its recovery module. (You may need to be rooted to do thus, which your stock rom is not. Im not sure if you can flash the recovery without root or not because Ive never tried without root. If so, then you will have to install Superuser via fastboot I think. You any guide for rooting to get instructions on this. Its easy.)
You may also find a way to install 4ext recovery via flashing from bootloader, but you will have to search for that. You MAY even be able to install it with the firmware upgrade. You will have to see if that is an available option.
Get your firmware from this thread...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Follow the instructions to update. Once you have 3.3x firmware and 4ext simply boot to recovery, do a full wipe, and flash cm10 (make sure cm10 is on your sd card. You can download it from your currently working gingerbread rom so you have it available)
You have like 15-20 minutes worth of work to do, so its not a monumental obstacle to overcome. It just seems like alot
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app

Skipjacks said:
If you have a bootable phone right now this is easy as you may not need adb or fast boot or anything.
First off you will need to install 4ext. Get the app from the Play Store. Then run it and let it install its recovery module. (You may need to be rooted to do thus, which your stock rom is not. Im not sure if you can flash the recovery without root or not because Ive never tried without root. If so, then you will have to install Superuser via fastboot I think. You any guide for rooting to get instructions on this. Its easy.)
You may also find a way to install 4ext recovery via flashing from bootloader, but you will have to search for that. You MAY even be able to install it with the firmware upgrade. You will have to see if that is an available option.
Get your firmware from this thread...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Follow the instructions to update. Once you have 3.3x firmware and 4ext simply boot to recovery, do a full wipe, and flash cm10 (make sure cm10 is on your sd card. You can download it from your currently working gingerbread rom so you have it available)
You have like 15-20 minutes worth of work to do, so its not a monumental obstacle to overcome. It just seems like alot
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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I am not rooted but am S-off. So my next step would be to root. I am suppose to have Clockworkmod to root AND 4EXT after right? Its not one or the other? I keep reading that people recommend 4ext is better than CWM but in order to root su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip I need CWM first correct?

fashofasho said:
I am not rooted but am S-off. So my next step would be to root. I am suppose to have Clockworkmod to root AND 4EXT after right? Its not one or the other? I keep reading that people recommend 4ext is better than CWM but in order to root su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip I need CWM first correct?
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flash su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip first and then install 4ext recovery

You're over engineering this. You don't need to root your current ROM first. That's an extra step since you're s-off.
If you are s-off it's really simple to get 4EXT recovery.
First, download this and put it on the root directory of your SD Card (meaning not in a folder, just on the SD Card. Do not rename it)
http://d-h.st/qnm
I got this download link from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21989107
Click Thanks for Joaquinf in that thread. He made the 4EXT zip that's flashable through the bootloader.
That is 4EXT made into a zip file that's flashable via the bootloader, which you can do when you are S-off.
So put that file on the SD card, power the phone off, pull the battery out for a second and put it back in (this stops fastboot so you can get back to the bootloader). Then hold volume down and power at the same time. You have to hit both buttons at the same time. If it goes to the splash screen, pull the battery and try again.
When the bootloader loads up it will immediately find the PM58IMG.zip file. It will ask you if you want to install the update. Say yes by hitting volume up I think (it will tell you how to say yes)
Put the phone down and don't touch it until it tells you it's done. Should just take a second. But seriously don't touch it. Leave it alone.
If that works, you've just flashed 4EXT. You can check it by pulling the SD card out (so it doesn't try to flash the PM58IMG again) and rebooting to the bootloader and selecting 'recovery' from the menu. 4EXT should boot up.
This entire process so far shouldn't take more than 3 minutes total. It just sounds like a lot.
To see this detailed out by someone else in case you want to check what I'm saying, read steps 4 and 5 of the first post in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21989063&postcount=1
Give the author 'thanks' again because he's awesome and deserves it.
Now you've got 4EXT installed. Great. You're 1/3rd of the way home.
Now you need to update your firmware. Delete the PM58IMG.zip file you used to flash 4EXT off the SD card (use a card reader or boot the phone up and delete it, whatever works. You can also use 4EXT as a card reader now too by choosing USB storage from inside 4EXT. It will give you access toteh SD card on your computer now)
Now get new Firmware from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21711154#post21711154
try the 3.33 firmware universal. First download link in post 2 of the thread above.
CHECK THE MD5 SUM!!!! I'M NOT PLAYING AROUND HERE!!! You are worried about bricking your phone, this is where you can do it if the firmware .zip is bad.
Put that PM58IMG file on your SD and flash it in the bootloader the same way you flashed 4EXT recovery a minute ago. (If you're still in 4EXT recovery you can use it's power menu to reboot into bootloader easily.)
This will take a minute. The phone will shut off and go black in the middle of this process. Your heart will skip a beat. Relax. It'll come back on. Again, put the phone down and walk away while it does it's thing and don't touch it until it says it's done.
Delete the PM58IMG file from your SD card.
You are now 2/3 of the way there. Your phone WILL NOT boot up right now because your ROM is not compatible with your firmware. Relax. That's supposed to happen.
Now you can flash CM10. Make sure you have the CM10.zip file on your SD card nad GApps. (Bruce has Gapps in his downloads page). Delete the PM58IMG firmware file from your SD card (that's important)
Pull the battery again so you can get back into bootloader. Get into bootloader (power + volume down)
Select Recovery
4EXT should boot up.
Go to the Wipe menu. Wipe all partitions except SD card. (Old ROM is now gone)
Go back to the main menu.
Install from SD
Find the CM10.zip file you should have downloaded and put onto the SD card. Flash it.
This will take about 3 minutes. 4EXT will flash it and ask if you want to reboot. You do not yet. Not you need to flash Gapps the same way you flashed the ROM.
When that's done, now you can reboot. You shoudl see the CyanogenMod boot animation after the splash screen. Give it a few minutes to boot up this first time. Once it boots, set it up the way you like it. If you enjoy it, donate a few bucks to the developer, Bruce.
You don't have to root CM10. It's already rooted when you boot it up the first time.

How to re-flash stock JB rom with OTA (custom recovery)

Hi,
I have a question.
I already flash 4.1.1 via OTA and use some bloody init.d script for R/W system, that doesnt work and gives me reboot after I enter into supersu app.
My question is... how can i flash 4.1.1 again (i wanna clean system, just for better feeling.) If Im using TWRP recovery? Because, ota file doesnt contain stock recovery as RUU does and I didnt find any ruu for 4.1.1 CID_032 | villec2.
Or, can I flash OTA update as update.zip in TWRP recovery?
sorry, for my bad english.

Step 1: relock the bootloader (check out some xda forums). This is a pretty easy process.
Step 2: find your desired stock jb online.
Step 3: connect your phone to the pc (make sure you have the htc drivers installed).
Step 4: run the RUU or stock file as an exe. An installation guide will follow, just follow it through.
It should work after this!
If you have questions or run into problems, let me know!
Sent from my One S

JohnKoeMan said:
Step 1: relock the bootloader (check out some xda forums). This is a pretty easy process.
Step 2: find your desired stock jb online.
Step 3: connect your phone to the pc (make sure you have the htc drivers installed).
Step 4: run the RUU or stock file as an exe. An installation guide will follow, just follow it through.
It should work after this!
If you have questions or run into problems, let me know!
Sent from my One S
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Thanks, but I think there's misunderstanding. I know how to use adb - relock, etc.
My point is, that I have android 4.1.1 (updated via OTA) and I wanna re-flash this with same android - 4.1.1 (due to I've installed a script that doesnt work - Easy_InitD_1.1.zip... and makes me couple of reboots. And I would prefer to have a clean rom, without any "possible future" problems.
Damn, I think Im getting worse, isn't this true? =D
edit: bloody RUU for JB would solve my problem, but it doesnt exist, yet.

Impo5sible said:
Thanks, but I think there's misunderstanding. I know how to use adb - relock, etc.
My point is, that I have android 4.1.1 (updated via OTA) and I wanna re-flash this with same android - 4.1.1 (due to I've installed a script that doesnt work - Easy_InitD_1.1.zip... and makes me couple of reboots. And I would prefer to have a clean rom, without any "possible future" problems.
Damn, I think Im getting worse, isn't this true? =D
edit: bloody RUU for JB would solve my problem, but it doesnt exist, yet.
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Haha no problems friend!
I've found a link to a custom ROM using JB 4.1.1, you can look into that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871866
Also you can instead remove TWRP (if you know how) and instead install CWM (clockworkmod).
I found CWM to work better than TWRP.
I myself am using CyanogenMod 10.1, very nice and clean, works perfectly ad has Android 4.2.1
That might also be an option if you want a clean ROM. ^^

I think you're missing something here.
The fact is that there is no original JB RUU that can be pushed to phones already after JB OTA, which updated their phone to custom ROM and want's to go back to stock now.
Running an ICS RUU will do no good since it will fail based on lower Hboot version.
My recommendation, therefore, is to use as close to stock JB ROM like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076855.
I will choose to go back to TrickDroid 9.1 if I had to.
Another option if no RUU is available is to get a nandroid done on the JB OTA just after flashing and rooting. And restore it.

orenfl said:
I think you're missing something here.
The fact is that there is no original JB RUU that can be pushed to phones already after JB OTA, which updated their phone to custom ROM and want's to go back to stock now.
Running an ICS RUU will do no good since it will fail based on lower Hboot version.
My recommendation, therefore, is to use as close to stock JB ROM like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076855.
I will choose to go back to TrickDroid 9.1 if I had to.
Another option if no RUU is available is to get a nandroid done on the JB OTA just after flashing and rooting. And restore it.
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Since I'm facing the same problem, and there is no RUU for now, how and where to get a JB OTA nandroid... Haven't seen any around.

Impo5sible said:
Thanks, but I think there's misunderstanding. I know how to use adb - relock, etc.
My point is, that I have android 4.1.1 (updated via OTA) and I wanna re-flash this with same android - 4.1.1 (due to I've installed a script that doesnt work - Easy_InitD_1.1.zip... and makes me couple of reboots. And I would prefer to have a clean rom, without any "possible future" problems.
Damn, I think Im getting worse, isn't this true? =D
edit: bloody RUU for JB would solve my problem, but it doesnt exist, yet.
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I had the same problem and no stock jb nandroid to go back to. Luckily I kept ics nandroid in my laptop, restore that and run OTA jb update again.
There is another option. Get Zenrom ICS, check for updates, download jb, install and then do factory reset. Then root it ( superuser, busybox, modified boot.img), make system back up and keep it in pc. Then you have it safe and you can go back to it if you need full stock jb.
I hope this will help.
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tominozh said:
I had the same problem and no stock jb nandroid to go back to. Luckily I kept ics nandroid in my laptop, restore that and run OTA jb update again.
There is another option. Get Zenrom ICS, check for updates, download jb, install and then do factory reset. Then root it ( superuser, busybox, modified boot.img), make system back up and keep it in pc. Then you have it safe and you can go back to it if you need full stock jb.
I hope this will help.
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So I'll be able to install Zenrom ICS on JB stock with hboot 2.15?

bo6o said:
So I'll be able to install Zenrom ICS on JB stock with hboot 2.15?
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Yes, you should be. Download zenrom, reboot recovery, wipe everything a few times, flash zenrom, set it up, then recovery, flash STOCK RECOVERY ( very important), prompt for update, download, install, set up, ( you may get a few errors here and there so just do factory reset in setting-->factory reset). Then flash twrp, flash superuser, backup.
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[Q] 1.85 rooted to scottsrom JB rooted

Ok, I know this is probably already all documented somewhere, but the problem is, there is also lots of out of date info, and I'm not sure how to tell which info is current, and which isn't. This is my first Android phone, so I'm not completely up to speed on the meanings of everything.
I have an AT&T (evita) HOX. Its on 1.8.5 stock, and is rooted. I also set supercid some time ago, in preparation for unlocking it. I didn't proceed with the unlock at that time because I wasn't yet comfortable that everything I wanted backed up was backed up, and everything said unlock would wipe all user data.
I believe I have backup under control now, and I'd like to get to where I can put the "Scottsroms" rooted JB on, and do whatever I need to ensure that I can keep root. I want to stay as close to stock as possible, but with root, and that seems to be the best path for that.
I've been doing a bit of reading (including stuff linked from the rollup thread) and I have some questions I haven't been able to answer.
- Do I need to unlock the BL in order to get S-off? Or, if I S-off, do I not need to unlock the bootloader?
- I see the note about htc blocking supercid unlocking and using all 2's instead - is this still valid?
- I had read CWM didn't support this phone, but now I see something that contradicts that.
Basically, while I understand that there are no guarantees, I'd like to at least avoid doing things that are KNOWN not to work.
FWIW, I am a long time linux user. I have the Android sdk installed with adb and fastboot programs... I'm very comfortable at the command line.
If anyone can suggest what the recommended procedure is, which steps I need, which I should avoid, which info is current, which is out of date, I'd be very thankful.
If more info from me is needed, just let me know...

Megadave123 said:
Ok, I know this is probably already all documented somewhere, but the problem is, there is also lots of out of date info, and I'm not sure how to tell which info is current, and which isn't. This is my first Android phone, so I'm not completely up to speed on the meanings of everything.
I have an AT&T (evita) HOX. Its on 1.8.5 stock, and is rooted. I also set supercid some time ago, in preparation for unlocking it. I didn't proceed with the unlock at that time because I wasn't yet comfortable that everything I wanted backed up was backed up, and everything said unlock would wipe all user data.
I believe I have backup under control now, and I'd like to get to where I can put the "Scottsroms" rooted JB on, and do whatever I need to ensure that I can keep root. I want to stay as close to stock as possible, but with root, and that seems to be the best path for that.
I've been doing a bit of reading (including stuff linked from the rollup thread) and I have some questions I haven't been able to answer.
- Do I need to unlock the BL in order to get S-off? Or, if I S-off, do I not need to unlock the bootloader?
- I see the note about htc blocking supercid unlocking and using all 2's instead - is this still valid?
- I had read CWM didn't support this phone, but now I see something that contradicts that.
Basically, while I understand that there are no guarantees, I'd like to at least avoid doing things that are KNOWN not to work.
FWIW, I am a long time linux user. I have the Android sdk installed with adb and fastboot programs... I'm very comfortable at the command line.
If anyone can suggest what the recommended procedure is, which steps I need, which I should avoid, which info is current, which is out of date, I'd be very thankful.
If more info from me is needed, just let me know...
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Finish unlocking bootloader
Flash recovery twrp 2.3.3.1 or lower being higher versions have mount and wipe bugs.
Backup your current Rom via recovery.
Copy Rom of choice to sd card
Wipe everything except sd card. Wipe cache,dalvik, system, factory reset.
Flash Rom.
If you are on hboot 1.14 or higher you will need to extract boot.img from Rom.zip and flash via fastboot, flash boot boot.img
Good luck
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31ken31 said:
Finish unlocking bootloader
Flash recovery twrp 2.3.3.1 or lower being higher versions have mount and wipe bugs.
Backup your current Rom via recovery.
Copy Rom of choice to sd card
Wipe everything but sd card, cache,dalvik, system, factory reset.
Flash Rom. If you are on hboot 1.14 or higher you will need to extract boot.img from Rom.zip and flash via fastboot, flash boot boot.img
Good luck
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Regarding unlocking - can I do it with supercid set, or do I need to change to all 2's ?
Should I do s-off?
I'm on whatever versions of everything are stock for a device shipped with 1.85 - ok, the bootloader screen says hboot is 1.09.0000
I'll search around but are there docs on the specific steps for flashing roms?
BTW, thanks for the quick reply...

Hit install from recovery pick Rom and flash.. don't worry about s-off being on hboot 1.09 u can flash whatever from recovery. Htcdev has 1111111 blocked I think if it is use all 2's
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FWIW supercid seemed to work for unlock just fine...

31ken31 said:
Flash recovery twrp 2.3.3.1 or lower being higher versions have mount and wipe bugs.
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Ok, looking for a bit of an expansion on this, and possibly some second opinions?
Looks like TWRP is up to 2.5.0.0 now, and the changelog shows a number of bugfixes since 2.3.x
Goomanager puts 2.5.0.0 on by default, I installed ROM Manager and it puts CWM..
The rollup page on the HOX says CWM officially supports it now..
The ROM I want says CWM "not supported" - I'm wondering if that is a holdover from when CWM didnt support HOX..

Megadave123 said:
Ok, looking for a bit of an expansion on this, and possibly some second opinions?
Looks like TWRP is up to 2.5.0.0 now, and the changelog shows a number of bugfixes since 2.3.x
Goomanager puts 2.5.0.0 on by default, I installed ROM Manager and it puts CWM..
The rollup page on the HOX says CWM officially supports it now..
The ROM I want says CWM "not supported" - I'm wondering if that is a holdover from when CWM didnt support HOX..
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It's says bugs fixed but it's not fixed.. I don't recommend cwm for this device. Go to twrp website and download 2.3.3.1 and flash it
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[Q] Stock Recovery

Hi all,
I apologize if this has been answered before, but I had trouble finding it here. I am currently rooted on a stock backup, but I am running a custom recovery. I am not sure where to find the stock recovery image for my device. I am using the HTC One M8 through Verizon, and I know that the new firmware update is coming out soon, and I'd like to be able to just OTA update my phone so that I can reflash a custom recovery and install the newest VenomROM. I have flashed a custom recovery before (obviously), but I didn't know if it mattered which firmware base you are running. I read somewhere that the recovery is totally separate from the OS, and it is meant to be an alternative to booting into the OS in case of a problem, but I want to be sure. If there is a specific recovery I need to use and someone here knows where I can find it, that'd be great. I found the collection of stock recoveries, but I'm having trouble figuring out which one I need to use. Any and all help is appreciated, thanks.
EDIT: My CID is VZW__001
My VERSION-MAIN is nothing. There's is just nothing next to this label.
I tried locating it on the collection of stock recoveries, but couldn't find it. I'm not sure why this is.

It takes more than stock recovery to take the OTA. The /system has to be essentially stock. Some mods (e. g. enabling powersave) may also csuse the OTA install to fail. There is a thread with a pseudo RUU. You ought to be able to get stock recovery there.
My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic....

hgoldner said:
It takes more than stock recovery to take the OTA. The /system has to be essentially stock. Some mods (e. g. enabling powersave) may also csuse the OTA install to fail. There is a thread with a pseudo RUU. You ought to be able to get stock recovery there.
My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
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Hi there,
I actually just used the psuedo RUU tool (I assume this is the one you are talking about? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727831)
I just finished using this tool, but when I went to check the recovery, all I get is a big red triangle with an exclamation point in the middle. Nothing else. So, I'm guessing that recovery didn't flash properly? But I'm honestly not completely sure. I would screenshot it, but I can't do that. Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: I found out that pressing volume up and power gives more options. I assume I am all good to go now? I am still rooted, and I'm not sure if that is a problem. I am stock, s-off and rooted, but I don't have any mods installed.

You can't do anything in stock recovery except take an OTA, assuming everything else is stock. You can't do Nandroids, flash zips, etc. Looks like you have stock recovery.
My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic....

hgoldner said:
You can't do anything in stock recovery except take an OTA, assuming everything else is stock. You can't do Nandroids, flash zips, etc. Looks like you have stock recovery.
My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
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Yeah I just figured out how the more options appear. I assume I'm good to go for the OTA now? I've got stock recovery, running a stock backup, s-off and I'm still rooted, but I think those are not a problem. I am not running any mods.

ChuckFinley1992 said:
Yeah I just figured out how the more options appear. I assume I'm good to go for the OTA now? I've got stock recovery, running a stock backup, s-off and I'm still rooted, but I think those are not a problem. I am not running any mods.
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You should be good to go. A cautionary note, however, is that if you are rooted (even if S-OFF), it's not always advisable to take the OTA because frequently OTA's plug exploits used to secure root, etc. There was a definite difference between the original stock Verizon M8 ROM releated 3/25/14 and the minor update which followed, and some were unable (myself included) to secure stable root and/or S-OFF with weaksauce, having to acquire a license to Sunshine instead.
I intend to stick on my custom ROM and recovery and trust the developers to massage the OTA once it's out and have, literally within days if not hours, an updated ROM/firmware zip file that will more than adequately fit the bill.

hgoldner said:
You should be good to go. A cautionary note, however, is that if you are rooted (even if S-OFF), it's not always advisable to take the OTA because frequently OTA's plug exploits used to secure root, etc. There was a definite difference between the original stock Verizon M8 ROM releated 3/25/14 and the minor update which followed, and some were unable (myself included) to secure stable root and/or S-OFF with weaksauce, having to acquire a license to Sunshine instead.
I intend to stick on my custom ROM and recovery and trust the developers to massage the OTA once it's out and have, literally within days if not hours, an updated ROM/firmware zip file that will more than adequately fit the bill.
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That does sound pretty appealing. I've never flashed firmware before though, and I wouldn't want to mess anything up. I remember seeing on the VenomROM firmware section, the easiest way to flash new firmware is to just grab the OTA update. The other way involved using some other program that I have not used before. I am overestimating how difficult installing new firmware is?

ChuckFinley1992 said:
That does sound pretty appealing. I've never flashed firmware before though, and I wouldn't want to mess anything up. I remember seeing on the VenomROM firmware section, the easiest way to flash new firmware is to just grab the OTA update. The other way involved using some other program that I have not used before. I am overestimating how difficult installing new firmware is?
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Firmware (splash screen, radios, hboot, recovery) are "flashed" with an S-OFF handset via fastboot from the bootloader, while connected to PC. I believe (again, based upon the RUU thread I mentioned previously which you seem to have found) that it may also be possible to flash from hboot using an update.zip file (I think the M8 file is called PB06IMG.zip, but don't hold me to that --- every phone has its own such file format/name.)
ROMs and mods are typically flashed via recovery.

hgoldner said:
Firmware (splash screen, radios, hboot, recovery) are "flashed" with an S-OFF handset via fastboot from the bootloader, while connected to PC. I believe (again, based upon the RUU thread I mentioned previously which you seem to have found) that it may also be possible to flash from hboot using an update.zip file (I think the M8 file is called PB06IMG.zip, but don't hold me to that --- every phone has its own such file format/name.)
ROMs and mods are typically flashed via recovery.
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Okay, I may look into that. I've only seen an RUU flashed via hboot, so I'd have to look into it. At the very least though, I'd imagine someone will post the instructions on how to flash the firmware when it comes out.
Thanks so much for your help!

hgoldner said:
I intend to stick on my custom ROM and recovery and trust the developers to massage the OTA once it's out and have, literally within days if not hours, an updated ROM/firmware zip file that will more than adequately fit the bill.
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+100 for this!
I am reading dozens of posts in all kinds of threads of people just dying to take that OTA...
Why???
I would not touch that new firmware with a 100 foot pole until the devs have figured out what it breaks!!!
I predict a flood of posts in the line of:
"I flashed back to stock to take the OTA and now weaksauce is not working - how do I get root back?"
What's the hurry?????