Hello developers!
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms, but I assure u that i read carefully all the related subject n still I couldn't find answers :/
I've been always an Apple person and I am really satisfied with the ease of use and performance, somehow whileI I was looking for a tablet to update my old iPad a friend of mine was able to convince me that I should get an Android, and I end up buying Asus Tf700, of course after hours n hours of reading reviews n stuff and on the paper it's waaaaaaaay better than any other tablet, even the new iPad!! But still, on the PAPER
I really disappointed with the performance and the terrible lag even with the simplest task (like scrolling down a website or pinch zoom in/out) and it keeps crashing and freezing for no reason
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android Iam really confused
Root, rom,flash,kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
I want my device to work like how they claim it should (ASUS ppl) .. very smooth with no lag or crashes .. but on the other hand i don't want to lose any of it's features (camera, GPS) .. should I update to jb? Should I stay with ICS?
N how??
Sorry for the long post!:cyclops:
dr.hawk said:
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms
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Yes, especially when someone does not even read the forum rules, the moderator's sticky thread and posts a question in "Development" instead of "Q&A".
dr.hawk said:
I've been always an Apple person ...
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android Iam really confused
Root, rom,flash,kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
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Yes, you made a mistake changing to Android. It's not (yet) ready for end users, especially the TF700. Return it as long as you can and buy the new iPad.
If you are just looking for a device without lags and stutters then go for iOS.
But if you want/have to do things iOS can't do then go for Android and search for solutions for lag or live with it.
Android is sure the best smartphone os (Widgets, Launchers ,Tasker, Swype,...) but on tablets... I really don't know.
I love my Transformer but I mostly use it for surfing and gaming so maybe the iPad would have been the better choice.
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Or don't by Asus... Get a Nexus 7 or 10.That's the route he should've taken. Asus just released a bad device. To sit here and say Android isn't ready for end users is bologna..
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Yes, especially when someone does not even read the forum rules, the moderator's sticky thread and posts a question in "Development" instead of "Q&A".
Yes, you made a mistake changing to Android. It's not (yet) ready for end users, especially the TF700. Return it as long as you can and buy the new iPad.
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Thank u mr.police officer, my bad
I am not going to return it, I just want it to work probably!
floyd0815 said:
If you are just looking for a device without lags and stutters then go for iOS.
But if you want/have to do things iOS can't do then go for Android and search for solutions for lag or live with it.
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Exactly, I want solution .. there are too many rome and stuff which says choose what suits u the most, but I have no idea what are they!!
I read in the forum that flashing and unlocking JB = losing camera and GPS functions .. what should I do? *Note I am still runnig ICS
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Or don't by Asus... Get a Nexus 7 or 10.That's the route he should've taken. Asus just released a bad device. To sit here and say Android isn't ready for end users is bologna..
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The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
I feel your pain. When I first moved over to an Android device, I was also confronted with similar issues. Yes, Android can be intimidating. However, once you get a handle of it, I assure you, you won't stop flashing different ROMs on a regular basis. First calm down and read through the following threads to get started:
[TOOL] TF700T ADB Tool [v4] flash recovery and more
[ROM][01/04/13]Baked Black Bean 6[JB 4.1.2]
dr.hawk said:
Thank u mr.police officer, my bad
I am not going to return it, I just want it to work probably!
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Look, to be honest, I think everyone has been frightened in the beginning with unlocking and rooting, but in the end the tf700 is a really easy device to learn it with.
There are some guides in the general section (where you should have posted this thread ) and this section here.
As far as performance, I can tell you now that there is no Rom that works better than CleanRom In heritance.
It is *very* battery friendly, is really performant (forget about iPad, after that Rom you'll have the advantages of Android sealed in a super speedy packaging)
However, if you really feel you don't want to unlock the device yet, you should indeed at least update the tablet to the latest firmware, since it has some improvements to it. (I don't know how much the improvement is on the stock rom, but Clean Rom Inheritance is based on stock and it works like a charm).
By the way, there are no custom roms for the tf700 that give up on the gps and camera features. All developers here are real pros, so don't worry
And last but not least; if you were to update to the latest firmware and feel it's too laggy, (many people have said so), you should consider unlocking your device to put CleanRom on it. It's basically stock, but much smoother, faster and has no bloatware
Good luck making your iOS friends Jelly (pun intended) of your tf700. I know I have
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dr.hawk said:
The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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Have you bought the keyboard dock? And I still think the tf700 is better of the two, if only because of its looks and dock
I know you are taking about tablets but the title says android...
I own a 4s and iPad 3, back in June I bought the s3 and I was really impressed with what it can do but its lag and performance made me question it the same as you, having spent £540 on a buggy feeling device.
I finally got jelly bean on it, jelly bean combined with disabling some crappy Samsung bloat made the s3 faster and smoother than any apple device out there, my iPad and iPhone both feel laggy in comparison now.
I have never routed or flagged a rom though, completely stock.
Before long you will love jelly bean
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dr.hawk said:
Exactly, I want solution .. there are too many rome and stuff which says choose what suits u the most, but I have no idea what are they!!
I read in the forum that flashing and unlocking JB = losing camera and GPS functions .. what should I do? *Note I am still runnig ICS
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I just read this post so I'll quickly reply
By rooting and unlocking you will not compromise any of the camera qualities. It still works just the way it's supposed to on CleanRom (the rom I use) and I am pretty sure the developer of CM10.1 has it running too.
This device may not be what you expect it to be out of the box, but let me tell you.. The devs we have for the tf700 are all very talented and manage to get some impressive performance squeezed out of this device without resulting in battery drain.
You really can't go wrong chosing either CM10.1 or CRomI (as we call CleanRom Inheritance)
As for the options you can choose while installing CRomI, they are mainly
- the kernel: do you want to keep everything close to stock, resulting in better battery life, and no overclocking? Or do you want a tweaked kernel (Clemsyn) which means even better performance, without taking too much of a hit on battery life. The latter is overclocked. If you still don't know what to choose: I have recently gone back to stock since it's just a tad friendlier for the battery and CRomI is smooth enough as it is
- Apps: select which apps you want preinstalled in your rom and which you don't want (little tip: always make sure the Play Store is checked: it's a vital app to install other apps with and it's a pain in the @$$ to install it from somewhere else if you want to keep it up to date
This method of building your personal rom on the spot is handy to deselect the bloatware you don't use (eg. Asus screensaver) and select the 'bloat' you like (eg. Supernote)
- Tweaks: I usually select the all, because the make the device even smoother and faster
By the way: in misc apps you'll have an app called Titanium Backup: that app keeps your data while switching Roms and is a nice way of making sure you'll keep your progress in games
I should say though: even though I've never tried Cm10.1, I am sure it's a great rom and I don't want to force you or anyone else to only look at Cromi, since CM10.1 has its own advantages
Just have a look for yourself and if you have any further questions, you now know where to post them (either Q&A for actual questions or general for remarks and findings).
The development section is used solely by developers of Roms, mods and kernels to share their creations with the world
dr.hawk said:
The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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Dr. Hawk, I know that reading these replies still hard for you as far as "what next" and "how". I'm sure that after you done all the steps below, you will find out the grass does look greener on the other side (IOS vs Android). With Android you could do more...a lot more compared to ipad. You just need to take ONE step at a time and within a few days you should have a smile on your face. There are plenty of people here ready to help noob(beginner) like youseft. Also I would like to mention that unlocking your device will void waranty, but in my opinion, if you don't do it, you will not happy with your device and eventually you're not going to use it, so it useless anyway. Let us know and please post update here so we can proceed accordingly. Here are the steps:
1. Unlock your device (download Asus unlock tool app and run it. This needed in order to install custom rom/kernel)
2. Flash custom recovery (there are 2 to choose from TWRP and CWM. I recommend TWRP for noob, it just easier with nice big User interface)
3. Use TWRP or CWM to flash your favorite custom rom (If you want trouble free, full stock features, CleanRom is the one to use)
That's all my friend. While you're performing these steps you're going to feel good about yourself and rewarding. When you are ready to go, just post here and we will walk you through, step by step. Once everything is done let us know if you do smile at the end and "no regred" that you picked Android and tf700. Cheers!!!!!!
I'm a flasher since I got my first android device and I have to say I don't want to have an iOS device because of it's performance! If you have a good ROM (and on my TF300T GPU/CPU OC a bit) you will get the same system performance and way more cusomization options - only problem for me is that a friend from my class has an iPad and uses it for school - there I just see the disadvantage of Android Tablets - except system apps you just don't have many apps for productive work that are optimized for tablets - including Dropbox(!!) that are way better optimized on iOS...
But I think in 1 or maybe 2 years it will be like with phones that Open Source (Android and maybe then also Ubuntu if they take the step for tabs too) will be sold more than iPads and with this the apps will also get optimized better :good:
atm I can just cry because of a friend made an own app for iOS to edit his scaeed books etc. and I can just open them with a non-optimized Adobe PDF Reader
so if you want now Custom ROM too, have a look at this guide and follow the steps unlock your bootloader, Flash recovery (I recommend TWRP!) and then go to the ROM you want (I recommend stock based: Clean ROM or AOSP based which means more customization options: Baked Blackbean) and install it with the installation instructions there - if you then still have questions ask in Q&A section because here it is only development section
dr.hawk said:
Hello developers!
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms, but I assure u that i read carefully all the related subject n still I couldn't find answers :/
I've been always an Apple person and I am really satisfied with the ease of use and performance, somehow whileI I was looking for a tablet to update my old iPad a friend of mine was able to convince me that I should get an Android, and I end up buying Asus Tf700, of course after hours n hours of reading reviews n stuff and on the paper it's waaaaaaaay better than any other tablet, even the new iPad!! But still, on the PAPER
I really disappointed with the performance and the terrible lag even with the simplest task (like scrolling down a website or pinch zoom in/out) and it keeps crashing and freezing for no reason
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android I am really confused
Root, rom, flash, kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
I want my device to work like how they claim it should (ASUS ppl) .. very smooth with no lag or crashes .. but on the other hand i don't want to lose any of it's features (camera, GPS) .. should I update to jb? Should I stay with ICS?
N how??
Sorry for the long post!:cyclops:
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What I take from your displeasure is the recurring "Android is open source for the customizer and this I don't want."
So like the previous comments I would vote for a return to iOS.
iDevices are very well designed and usable.
So if your user experience has been less than pleasing with Android I wouldn't stick with it.
iOS devices are made for those who would like ease of use and having everything done automatically for them, and don't want to bother with things like settings and customisation and freedom of decision. If you're used to having everything done for you, stick with it. Changing to a system that requires you to manually do things for yourself when you don't want to is not going to make you very happy.
Apple is Use, don't Think.
Android is Think, don't just Use.
If you're used to the ease and smoothness of iOS, and were perfectly happy with the system, you're not going to like Android. Because Android isn't meant as an end-user OS.
Now, regarding flashing. I'm not going to try it on my tablet at all until the warranty has passed. The store I bought it from is not exactly know for its excellent customer service, and it updated to .30 before I heard about backing it up.
Is there a solution? Yes, get an iPad. The TF700 has some serious I/O issues which cause lag, but even if you're using the best of the best Android tab (whichever one that may be) you're still going to experience crashes, simply because of the customisation options. That's why iOS 'never' (ahem, hand me one, it'll crash.) crashes, you can't customized so there's no conflicts.
Don't get me wrong, I have an iPod 5th gen and love it (if Apple's warranty wasn't so horrendous...), and as a designer I appreciate the marketing and design behind iOS, but as a user I want to make my own choices, and I absolutely detest anything that goes automatic or makes its decisions for me.
That's not strictly true with newer devices.
Both my iPad 3 and iPhone get more app crashes and ui/keyboard lags than my stock int galaxy s3, which performs faster and smoother with everything except the dialer. Since using the s3the iOS screen doesn't seem as smooth as it used to, very slightly choppy moving between 2 app pages.
I use Nova launcher and it is perfectly smooth, fast and since the upgrades to jb 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 not a single crash or FCC, though on ICS there were many.
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dr.hawk said:
The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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+1 on nexus 10. I have both and even with custom rom the tf700 is not as smooth as the n10. No tweaking necessary. How come you can't return it?
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adelancker said:
Have you bought the keyboard dock? And I still think the tf700 is better of the two, if only because of its looks and dock
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first, thank u man! I decided to unlock and root my device!
I haven't bought the dock, maybe next step
These are really useful information, I decided to unlock, update to JB and to root .. :highfive:
I am going to start tonight, right after gym!
special thanks to:
-angel*
buhohitr
adelancker
cheers!! :highfive:
dr.hawk said:
These are really useful information, I decided to unlock, update to JB and to root .. :highfive:
I am going to start tonight, right after gym!
special thanks to:
-angel*
buhohitr
adelancker
cheers!! :highfive:
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Thats great news!
Don't hesitate to ask explanation when you don't get a step in the walktrhoughs.
They are usually written by people who are experienced using Android for people who are somewhat experienced as well So for a complete newcomer to the Android platform, I can imagine you'll ask yourself some quesitons later
In the beginning of December '14 my tf700t had become so sluggish that I decided it was either ditch it and buy a new non-Asus device - or be adventurous and look into how to unlock, root and install Crombi-KK. Since I had nothing to lose and prefer using my old hardware, I decided to go for 'adventurous'. I did my homework and everything went well. My tf700t ran buttery smooth, and I was overjoyed. My first attempt at tinkering with anything android was a success.
Then after a week or so things started slowing down. Lags, crashes and freezes. Having to reboot the device every 5 - 10 minutes, which obviously I couldn't live with, so I factory wiped from TWRP, reflashed and once again my tablet-life was full of joy. This story has repeated itself so many times that I've stopped counting. On Jan. 6th I did yet another restore, and this time I did a nandroid to make life easier when once again I have to restore. This process is fast becoming tedious, though, and obviously it's not a permanent solution to my problem, so I hope someone will take a look at a couple of catlogs and please tell me what's going on, as interpreting these logs is way beyond my skills.
Not knowing much about flashing custom roms, I go with SBdags default settings when I flash. Freezes, crashes etc. seem to happen with all apps, but in particular with Dolphin Browser. Sometimes I notice that the back of the device tends to become warm.
I installed Autokiller Memory Optimizer - but the tablet crashed within minutes .
I'm sure you'll need further info to be able to point me in the right direction, but unsure exactly which, so please do ask.
Thanks a bunch
While I can't say I'm smart enough to give you a great answer like SDBags himself, I can offer whats worked for me. I've noticed this too as a general trend that seems to be specific to the TF700 itself, regardless of your ROM. For all of his wizardry SDBags can't change hardware and the TF700 is starting to get very long in the tooth. When I feel like mine is acting up I back up the app data and just reflash the ROM. That seems to set everything back to a good spot. As for heating up that might be from overclocking the CPU, I can't remember if thats a default option but I feel it always helps. Play around with Zombi-Cat if you haven't already tried it.
Cheers
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R_McNeely said:
While I can't say I'm smart enough to give you a great answer like SDBags himself, I can offer whats worked for me. I've noticed this too as a general trend that seems to be specific to the TF700 itself, regardless of your ROM.
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Actually, hearing from another tf700/custom ROM user with the same experience is a great answer in itself because now I know that flashing a custom ROM on a TF700 hasn't solved all problems for everybody but me. I'll stop worrying that there's something I did wrong and thank Asus for selling me a crappy product and make me learn about unlocking and flashing custom roms without being afraid of bricking it and/or turning it into a fantastic baby bob-sleigh.
Britta
I should add that my post wasn't meant as a criticism against SBdags and Crombi-kk at all. I'm very grateful that I can learn from him and other devs and users here.
Hi guys. I wanted to usher in 2023 by bringing my old ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T back to life.
I've had it since I was a kid, and have tried various Custom Roms over the years.
The last one I installed was the KatKiss with Android 6.0, and the experience wasn't exactly smooth.
Can you recommend me some new ROM to refresh it a bit? I'm open to anything, whether it's upgrading or downgrading, or even installing an entire Linux distro (which would be pretty cool ngl).
I have basic experience with modding android devices, but I would like to experiment with this also to learn something new, so I'm also open to more complex installations.
I'm looking for something that gives me a smooth and stable experience. It doesn't need to be highly customizable or complete, in fact I prefer near-stock android roms.
I simply wish I could do something with this old tablet instead of leaving it in a drawer gathering dust. Every time I look at it, it feels like a shame to have abandoned it like this.
Kitkass nougat rom, if you want fast speeds,don't install gapps,Google playstore. Use F-droid. Have this same predicament, has the dock and all. But no development, rom wise, but is linux for it.
I too have an orignal TF700T that has never performed as expected, being horrendously sluggish from the day I bought it to even just open chrome, let alone run any app.
Now that i'm officially a retired old phart I finally have the time to try to modify this device.
BUT, scouring the web trying to learn and understand what is best to do and how to go about it is like dringing from a firehose. There are so many conflicting posts mostly quite old, with different suggestions that I don't know where to begin.
As a start I have managed to unlock but where to from here? Is there a succinct guide suitable for a noobie to follow that would allow me to easily upgrade the system to be reasonably fast and reliable?
I'd appreciate your wisdom
Thanks
PS. and my avatar is almost a selfie !!
WorkerB said:
I too have an orignal TF700T that has never performed as expected, being horrendously sluggish from the day I bought it to even just open chrome, let alone run any app.
Now that i'm officially a retired old phart I finally have the time to try to modify this device.
BUT, scouring the web trying to learn and understand what is best to do and how to go about it is like dringing from a firehose. There are so many conflicting posts mostly quite old, with different suggestions that I don't know where to begin.
As a start I have managed to unlock but where to from here? Is there a succinct guide suitable for a noobie to follow that would allow me to easily upgrade the system to be reasonably fast and reliable?
I'd appreciate your wisdom
Thanks
PS. and my avatar is almost a selfie !!
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Currently running KatKiss 7.1rom on this device,its fast without the playstore, can download a open sourced app store called F-droid... If Im not mistaken, can also use exposed mods but will have to use KatKiss 7.0 rom for it to work.
Thanks @foxcartman1
Ive yet to bite the bullet . Still reading forum posts trying hard not to disappear down rabbit holes.
I have concluded KatKiss is the way to go. Nougatella #39 7.1.2
As for TWRP, I’m leaning toward the latest available (26) using the TF700t 2.6.3.1 BLOB
I just hope there are no compatibility issues with this choice. I guess time will reveal all…
Thanks again
WorkerB said:
Thanks @foxcartman1
Ive yet to bite the bullet . Still reading forum posts trying hard not to disappear down rabbit holes.
I have concluded KatKiss is the way to go. Nougatella #39 7.1.2
As for TWRP, I’m leaning toward the latest available (26) using the TF700t 2.6.3.1 BLOB
I just hope there are no compatibility issues with this choice. I guess time will reveal all…
Thanks again
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TWRP [email protected] is the recovery that I use, Ive had no problems with that one. Flashed many roms with that twrp.
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Kitkass nougat rom, if you want fast speeds,don't install gapps,Google playstore. Use F-droid. Have this same predicament, has the dock and all. But no development, rom wise, but is linux for it.
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Is there a way to install a Linux destro like PopOS or Mint on the TF? - NP
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Is there a way to install a Linux destro like PopOS or Mint on the TF? - NP
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I seen Gentoo for it but looked like it was still in development. Maybe Debian based Sparky Linux, might work being this tab only has 1gb ram, Ive yet to try that, I will ask the developer of sparky linux about it