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What the pros and cons of tempered glass screen protector vs a Film screen protector?
My concern about the Tempered glass is that :
--it's adhesive is only on the bezel area and since sgs4 have smaller bezel so it might get detached easily
--Tempered Glass might scratch the glass beneath it
--If adhesive of the Tempered glass became less sticky Dust might accumulate inside
So can you tell me your experience with tempered glass screen protector? I really want to hear from someone who used this screen protector for long time and not on these reviews on youtube since they only used it on the time they review it.
And also does anyone tried using combination of Film and T.glass protectors?
i never bothered because they're so expensive and i screw up the screen anyways so the film type are more easily replaceable
ill probably end up buying 2 or 3 cases and end up using only screen protectors in most situations lol.
to me i rarely drop my phone but i have trouble keeping it out of my pocket with my keys and change, other things. ive been pretty good about it but not perfect.
First off my only problem with tempered glass on my S3 was that it messed with screen responsiveness... Now the ones for the S4 are mostly half the thickness of last years so that should help that problem a lot. The iLoome protector fort the S4 is fully clear and I assume it has adhesive over the entire surface. The sense of mind you get with glass is great. Plus the feel of glass is much better than that of other screen protectors. If you can find one that doesn't take away from screen sensitivity than i'd say it's definitely worth it if you care about your phone.
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ichilouch said:
What the pros and cons of tempered glass screen protector vs a Film screen protector?
My concern about the Tempered glass is that :
--it's adhesive is only on the bezel area and since sgs4 have smaller bezel so it might get detached easily
--Tempered Glass might scratch the glass beneath it
--If adhesive of the Tempered glass became less sticky Dust might accumulate inside
So can you tell me your experience with tempered glass screen protector? I really want to hear from someone who used this screen protector for long time and not on these reviews on youtube since they only used it on the time they review it.
And also does anyone tried using combination of Film and T.glass protectors?
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I have a "Flexible Glass Screen Protector" on my S3 that has adhesive all across the back. I have only removed it once in the couple month's that I've had it. I have not encountered any dust getting between the two pieces of glass. The adhesion has not deteriorated any either. I am very happy with it and I really am hoping I will be able to locate one for my S4. The only draw back that I have found is that the thicker protector limits the cases you can use. My favorite cover before I got the protector was the Seidio Surface case and it no longer can be used. I also like my Otterbox Defender case and I was able to "squeeze" it on after I removed the plastic protector that came on the cover. It's a tight fit, but it does work.
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I have a "Flexible Glass Screen Protector" on my S3 that has adhesive all across the back. I have only removed it once in the couple month's that I've had it. I have not encountered any dust getting between the two pieces of glass. The adhesion has not deteriorated any either. I am very happy with it and I really am hoping I will be able to locate one for my S4. The only draw back that I have found is that the thicker protector limits the cases you can use. My favorite cover before I got the protector was the Seidio Surface case and it no longer can be used. I also like my Otterbox Defender case and I was able to "squeeze" it on after I removed the plastic protector that came on the cover. It's a tight fit, but it does work.
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What Brand did you use and how thick was it?
ichilouch said:
What Brand did you use and how thick was it?
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I got it from GlassZone and I believe it is 6mm, I will have to look for my old email confirmation.
KeithSr said:
I got it from GlassZone and I believe it is 6mm, I will have to look for my old email confirmation.
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It isn't 6mm thick, that would be +70% the thickness of the entire phone! lol
Maybe 0.6mm, that would still be very thick for a screen protector.
Spigen film is the way to go... $14 for two protectors and easy to install...
Just watched a review of the Spigen Glas.tR and it is also CLEAR!
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I had a glass protector on my GS3 (XGear Spectre, I think) and it worked fine - no loss of sensitivity. It did allow some tiny dust in, but it was easy to lift and wipe it out the couple of times it happened over 8 months. And the week before my S4 came in, I managed to drop the S3 on its face...the screen protector cracked, and the phone is still perfect. Looking at the Spigen one next week just because of that.
Asmodian3 said:
It isn't 6mm thick, that would be +70% the thickness of the entire phone! lol
Maybe 0.6mm, that would still be very thick for a screen protector.
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Okay, I found the ad for the flexible glass protector. I ordered it on eBay, this one is very similar even though it is for the Note 2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...193&pid=100040&prg=1011&rk=1&sd=230950051927&
I love this screen protector and am hoping that I will be able to get one for the new S4.
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I also had the one everyone was talking about at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920757
But, like someone said previously, it had adhesive only on the outside edges and dust or dirt could get underneath the protector.
I ended up breaking it on the corner when I removed it to clean beneath it.
That does look like a nice one.
I bought the Spigen Slim Glass screen protector and I am 100% satisified. Zero less in screen sensitivity and it feels smooth as, well, glass
bobbydsiu said:
I bought the Spigen Slim Glass screen protector and I am 100% satisified. Zero less in screen sensitivity and it feels smooth as, well, glass
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That's awesome. Which one did you get? .TR or .T? I didn't like the one for the s3 but apparently this one is better as the adhesive is all over.
thacounty said:
That's awesome. Which one did you get? .TR or .T? I didn't like the one for the s3 but apparently this one is better as the adhesive is all over.
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I got the tr, I think its the thinner of the two. Its definitely fully adhesive, I love it.
spigen GLAS.tr for what phone?
bobbydsiu said:
I got the tr, I think its the thinner of the two. Its definitely fully adhesive, I love it.
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Spigen GLAS.t SLIM = non-rounded borders - (0.23mm) - thinner
Spigen GLAS.tR SLIM = rounded borders (0.4mm)
You're correct the t is the thinner material. Either way it feels great and installs fairly easily.
I had the glas for the s2, I LOVED(easy to clean the screen of finger oils) it, however, it attracted dust underneath the screen protector due to adhesive being only at the edges, I took it off after a couple of months. With the full adhesive, i will definitely buy again for my soon to arrive S4. Especially since I just dropped my s2 face down on the ground and broke the screen a couple weeks back (without case), the glas would serve as a shield.
Hi guys,
I saw several topics relative to screen protectors but I'm a bit lost when it comes to choose a good screen protector that fit my requirements..
Right now, I am using the screen protector (and back protector) delivered with the phone (not talking about the anti-shatter film), but I got recently an impact/scratches on the screen and I'd like to change the screen protector to something at least as good as the original sony screen protector.
I was quite interested in buying a tempered glass screen protector as it is highly resistant to scratches and has usually oleophobic coating, but I heard that it is very fragile and, once applied, the phone can't fit anymore in the sony charging dock (which is really a shame). But I'd like to have a confirmation from you guys regarding this?
Otherwise, can you please give me advice about a great plastic screen protector, easy to apply and efficient against scratches and fingerprints (oleophobic coating if it exists for plastic screen protector)?
I saw suggestions about the XtremeGuard one, is that really worth the price? What I don't like is you need water to install it onto the screen (that's why the HI-DEF one of this manufacturer looks better as you don't need water), also there's no hole for the proximity sensor, I heard that's sometimes a problem?
Thanks in advance for your advices!
Just received Niilken 9H+ tempered glass screen protector from www.cbay.co.nz
Handful of cleaning agents included with the protector.
1. Wet cleaning cloth
2. Dry cleaning cloth
3. Adhesive film to remove dust
4. Wiping cloth
5. Extra stickers to hold the protector without directly touching
Unfortunately, the one I received did not fully adhere to the screen. There were gaps all around the protector border, and refused to set properly even after firmly pressing it down.
It did not affect s-pen functionality nor front camera, but it could have been better.
Overall, otherwise looks good and does its job as one of the first tempered glass protectors for note 4.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
jah said:
Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
mkim055 said:
That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvious" curve at the edge of the screen. Most (all current?) tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvoius" curve at the edge of the screen. most tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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You are right, I actually misread that as 2.5D for screen protector. I am aware of the screen curvature starting within the viewing screen.
Thank you though.
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iloome is currently the only company who is making a Note 4 tempered glass screen protector that is designed to fit OVER the 2.5D curved edges,
All other pieces will either stop short of the curve or will have issues adhering.
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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"Pretty scratch resistant" isn't "completely immune to scratches". The point being that if you cover your phone with a protector no matter what happens (short of a drop/stanley knife) you're quite literally covered. Having a decent screen protector, glass or not, along with a case means you can throw your phone into a pocket with a bunch of keys with little regard to how your phone will fare.
I'd much rather have to replace a £5-15 protector than realise at some point that there's a scratch on the actual glass on my screen. You can't go back from that - you can replace protectors easily. People have different usage profiles, just because your 3 phones are scratch free, doesn't mean that others won't want to protect theirs.
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Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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I always thought the same, but afraid to try it.... anybody else not use any protection and not get scratches?
Your right I have friends that are tradesmen, and I wouldn't go without a screen protector if I was them. I wouldn't go with a high even phone either.
But in my case my G3 / Note 4 is in my pocket and just my phone alone. Maybe that's why. I don't put my phone inside with coins or keys. That's asking for trouble
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Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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One of the reviewers Note 4s screen got scratched during use after a few days(can't remember which site it way). I also remember seeing a video where Gorilla Glass gets microscopic scratches without a protector and these scratches make the whole structure weaker and more prone to shatter when dropped.
Will you be using any screen protectors? I got 2 for free so will try it, will be tricky with air bubbles and dust.
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Will you be using any screen protectors? I got 2 for free so will try it, will be tricky with air bubbles and dust.
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The Mi4C uses Concore glass which is a product of Gorilla Glass but has the LCD and Digitizer fused together. That means if the glass even slightly cracks you'll have to replace the entire LCD/Digitizer assembly. Even though the Mi4C has a good repairability score, it might be difficult or expensive to get parts as this a phone for the Chinese market only. Using some form of screen protection is essential.
PS: Just google a few guides on how to apply a screen protector properly, I've done so many times without any dust or bubbles creeping in.
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The Mi4C uses Concore glass which is a product of Gorilla Glass but has the LCD and Digitizer fused together. That means if the glass even slightly cracks you'll have to replace the entire LCD/Digitizer assembly. Even though the Mi4C has a good repairability score, it might be difficult or expensive to get parts as this a phone for the Chinese market only. Using some form of screen protection is essential.
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Thanks, I'll definitely use one
Make sure to get the tempered glass variety, as the plastic-based ones are often grippy (making swipes more difficult as your finger kind of sticks to the screen) and more reflective (more difficult to see in the sun), as well as less transparent (screen seems dimmer, and sometimes has artifacts). Tempered glass screen protectors are more expensive than the plastic-based ones and sell for about $5. That said, I've seen suppliers offering the display now, they sell for about $60.
http://www.vopmart.com/pa1013245.html
Ye I have a tempered glass one, always used a plastic on my old phones, which is much slimmer but as you say, you can feel the difference :good:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
I applied the standard screen protector that came for free and have one bubble but its on the bezel so I can live with that. Only problem is it attracts a lot of fingerprints
jauling said:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
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Yep, I confirm. No or poor oleophobic coating, it is a real fingerprint magnet
I don't use a screen protector, not even the free platic one that came with the phone... just don't like them.
jauling said:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
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Nillkin have a tempered glass screen protector for the Mi4i/4c, called NILLKIN Amazing H. I've heard they're one of the better ones, since Nillkin is also a big brand when it comes to cases and screen protectors.
You can find it on AliExpress for 7-10 dollar. It's probably available at other places as well.
I see nillkin also has an Amazing H+ version.. www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=5584&page=1
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I see nillkin also has an Amazing H+ version.. www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=5584&page=1
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Hm, yea. You know the difference between H and H+?
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Hm, yea. You know the difference between H and H+?
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Just comparing the product pages, The H is 0.33m and H+ is 0.3mm. H+ looks to have 2.5D edging craft, whatever that is.
I only use nillkin for all my phones. They fit great and applying them is very easy, because they pack a lot of extras in the box (like wet and dry wipes to clean your screen, tape to remove dust particles, microfibre cloth...). I always need just about 2 minutes to apply them without any bubbles or dust. If there is a dust particle left after applying, just lift the screen protector carefully and use the tape to remove the dust
i found that Edge Control goes crazy when the phone is connected to the PSU and charging. After some minutes of using the Edge controls suddenly do the "back" function all over again. This happens when i just hold the phone in the left hand (not tapping with the fingers - just holding it on both sides in one hand). Can you confirm this? I am using latest sMIUI 5.11.5 (clean installed). If i unplug the typ c connector - all goes back to normal within one minute.
Hi,
I've ordered last week a NGP Pure Case for my white PH1 last week. Question is : I saw on Amazon that it won't fit with tempered glasss like orzero. I don't have orzero tempered glass, I have this one : https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Sc...74582&sr=1-1&keywords=lamshaw+essential+phone that NOT covers edges.
So do you think Pure Case will be fine for me ?
Thanks for your future answers.
I think you will be fine. The case only covers a very tiny area of the screen, enough to protect it but also to lift most screen protectors. From the amazon image and the fact that I use that incipio case I am like 90% sure that screen protector wont lift
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I think you will be fine. The case only covers a very tiny area of the screen, enough to protect it but also to lift most screen protectors. From the amazon image and the fact that I use that incipio case I am like 90% sure that screen protector wont lift
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You have it ? Can I have a pic plz ?
EDIT : If u want a pic of my tempered
http://reho.st/view/self/5f8cd6acb097dc6cf027725f7aabba1752b9e6de.jpg
There you go
thanks, u have a tempered ?
EDIT : Check my tempered on the link and tell me
When using this case i recommend a "Case Friendly" screen protector, tempered glass ones I have pop up around the top of the device. Just about to order https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075P1FSDX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1IR0821FMR2TC&colid=3IFPSSR1GMYZN
basongwe said:
thanks, u have a tempered ?
EDIT : Check my tempered on the link and tell me
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No, I have a skinomi screen protector
Okay, so i'm worried again... :/
Cause i've a tempered (even if it doesn't fit the corners as u can see here : http://reho.st/view/self/5f8cd6acb097dc6cf027725f7aabba1752b9e6de.jpg )
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Okay, so i'm worried again... :/
Cause i've a tempered (even if it doesn't fit the corners as u can see here : http://reho.st/view/self/5f8cd6acb097dc6cf027725f7aabba1752b9e6de.jpg )
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looks like you got an all area adhesive screen protector which lifts off at the curved screen edges. Since it's already slighty lifted off at the edges I think there is no problem putting the Incipio on. The Incipio case is a problem for screen protectors which only have adhesive at the very edge, specifically at the top of the screen where the camera cutout is located. It will push and lift the adhesive off and since there is no other adhesive further down, the screen protector pretty much lifts all the way up. You then have a "clicking" sound when you tap onto that area (the adhesive will temporarily stick and then pop off when you let go).
Your screen protector is not perfectly centered and you may have small issues at the top and the bottom right where it comes close to the edge. Maybe you can re-center it.
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looks like you got an all area adhesive screen protector which lifts off at the curved screen edges. Since it's already slighty lifted off at the edges I think there is no problem putting the Incipio on. The Incipio case is a problem for screen protectors which only have adhesive at the very edge, specifically at the top of the screen where the camera cutout is located. It will push and lift the adhesive off and since there is no other adhesive further down, the screen protector pretty much lifts all the way up. You then have a "clicking" sound when you tap onto that area (the adhesive will temporarily stick and then pop off when you let go).
Your screen protector is not perfectly centered and you may have small issues at the top and the bottom right where it comes close to the edge. Maybe you can re-center it.
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Small issues are not a big deal, if u think I can use both ?
andril said:
When using this case i recommend a "Case Friendly" screen protector, tempered glass ones I have pop up around the top of the device. Just about to order https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075P1FSDX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1IR0821FMR2TC&colid=3IFPSSR1GMYZN
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I can vouch for this one. It fits great with my Tudia TAMM case. It's a TPU just like the Skinomi and IQ but a dry install. You peel off a small horizontal strip at the top to expose the adhesive. Position it starting at the top and then bend it a little to start separating the rest of the backing and start pushing your way down the screen so the backing comes off completely at the end. It's really grippy at first but that will pass as you use your phone. Since it is a TPU it will develop marks on it over time if you're not careful so be careful installing when trying to push out bubbles or whatever. I used a credit card wrapped in microfiber cloth and pushed out the bubbles before removing the top protective film. If you have bubbles that won't easily work out they will disappear after a few hours.
Best option so far IMO. I had the Delta Shield TPU before and the TAMM case push up the corners and edges.
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So with my tempered, it will pop out or no ? :/
basongwe said:
So with my tempered, it will pop out or no ? :/
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If you look at your picture your screen is already lifted off at the edges (read my previous post). So it is probably not a big deal
Hope you're right
But what do you mean by lifted ? My tempered should put off by itself with time ?
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I can vouch for this one. It fits great with my Tudia TAMM case. It's a TPU just like the Skinomi and IQ but a dry install. You peel off a small horizontal strip at the top to expose the adhesive. Position it starting at the top and then bend it a little to start separating the rest of the backing and start pushing your way down the screen so the backing comes off completely at the end. It's really grippy at first but that will pass as you use your phone. Since it is a TPU it will develop marks on it over time if you're not careful so be careful installing when trying to push out bubbles or whatever. I used a credit card wrapped in microfiber cloth and pushed out the bubbles before removing the top protective film. If you have bubbles that won't easily work out they will disappear after a few hours.
Best option so far IMO. I had the Delta Shield TPU before and the TAMM case push up the corners and edges.
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Looks like availability its after xmas..
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But what do you mean by lifted ? My tempered should put off by itself with time ?
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look carefully at the picture you took. I had this with all my curved screen phones. the lighter edge you see is where the screen protector is not attached. If you have not noticed it yet then I'm afraid I just ruined your enjoyment with it.
sorry
Mine lift the tempered glass. Unless they make one a little smaller I don't think it will work.
I think I am going to just go with the Incipio case and nothing more. The screen seems more responsive.
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Should've went with the DualPro from Incipio. I just got a black one and not only is it the highest quality case I've seen for the device but it fits just fine with Orzero TGP on.
EDIT: Felt as though I should add a caveat that applied to me, likely applies to a lot of folks having issues trying to use a case and screen protector simultaneously. You really need to nail the placement of the screen protector in order to prevent case interference, when centered as perfectly as is reasonable I have not encountered any issues with lifting but it did take two attempts to hit the sweet spot. You're much more likely to encounter lifting if the screen protector is favoring one side even slightly, so those guide stickers that you tend to want to chuck actually come in very handy when trying to get the placement just right.