[Q] Potential new owner, key question, knockon - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm currently debating between a LG G2 and a Nexus 5, and leaning toward the Nexus 5 because I really want the stock Android experience. But I absolutely love the Knockon feature on the G2. Some quick search shows that Nexus 5 has this implemented via custom kernels. My question is if this implementation is just as good that of the G2 (i.el, consistent, no buggy behavior, no heavy battery drain), and if it can be done by flashing just a kernel or mod (leaving the base Google Android intact. Kind of tired of messing with tons of custom ROM's. Want the stock one and sticking to it.)
Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

The knock knock feature requires the digitizer to stay on so yes, there will be some battery drain but I think some users report like 2% in an hour which is perfectly acceptable to me. I used knock for a while on the Chaos Kernel when it was not CAF based and it worked just as it should. I am sure things have only improved in the latest kernels. There is a dev that adds the double tap to wake/ sleep to some of the most popular kernels such as Franco and elementalx.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524557 bricked kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524422 neohammer
These were just on the first page but I know there's a dev that adds these features to franco which is popular and so on.

Hello,
Well, first of all you ask such a question in the Nexus 5 forum?! Obviously people are going to tell you to buy the Nexus! Knockon/dt2w features has been implemented on N5 by our awesome devs but people have reported that they are suffering from battery drain!
It really comes down to your choice basically. Yes, the G2 might have a bigger battery but the N5 will have long time support from Google (since it's a nexus) and from our devs off course! That's the reason why all of us fell in love with the Nexus 5!

I use Touch Control. It's awesome, and doesn't have any noticeable effect on the battery.

Nexus 5 owner
Some months ago I was wondering almost the same thing, between the Nexus 5 and Motorola X. Finally I decided to buy the Nexus 5 (primarily because its price) but the point here is that now I have 3 months with it, and I can tell you I'm very happy with it.
It depends on your preferences, I like the stock android experience and the huge developer support for the Nexus rather than a phone full of features, sometimes unnecessary features. And with XDA and some time you can have a Nexus full of features too.

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Nexus 5 or Canadian i377m (S4)

Hi, I have less than 7 days to return this perfect Nexus 5.
My friend just informed me that I can flash the Google Play Edition ROM on the Rogers i377m. I went over to look at their Android Development and sure enough there is a thread for gpe roms for i377m.
For example, this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510959&page=8
As per any rom thread I went to see if there were any lingering bugs but none was reported.
Now I'm at a cross road. Should I return the Nexus 5 for a flashed gpe s4?
These are the pros that concerns me.
S4:
-swappable battery
-64gb SD card
-flip flop between stock TW and GPE roms
NEXUS
-KITKAT guaranteed
-first in line updates
If the flashed gpe rom had some consistent bugs then Nexus 5 hands down but I couldn't find it. Everyone was pretty happy with it's stability.
Your perspective or bias is greatly appreciated.
I did a similar switch had a t-mobile version though (still in canada) Didn't have a definitive reason for walking away from the S4. Gave up the use of my 64gb card and potentially a better camera (using a GPE rom does limit you to the stock interface)
But at the same time, I've been waiting for a nexus Device with LTE for years love the feel of it and love that its not in everyone's hands (yes small reasons) Its definitely going to be my device for the next year when you throw in the quick updates into the mix.
Yeah there were some very minor bugs with the GPE rom but a reboot would fix them. nothing serious at all.
I would sum it up this way: How much do you enjoy using the N5? do you feel like you are missing out with the storage or is it easy enough to get by without?

Need help adjusting as iPhone 5S user with a Nexus 5

Hi guys, I just layed my 5S to the side for a Nexus 5, I use a Retina Macbook Pro with 10.9.2, I used an HTC One before the 5S, Its good to be back!, Well sound quality leaves alot to be desired but besides that, my BIGGEST PROBLEM, is that I cannot have screen wake up with notifications on the Nexus 5,
Also i would like to root my Nexus 5, and install a custom ROM
Since I don't know how on my Mac, can you guys help me out? Thanks in advance!
Also WHAT IS THE BEST ROM, Performance wise, Battery and quickness etc radio, I Want to get the most out of my Nexus 5... but also get the features I want
I can't live without screen waking up and showing notifications on lock screen like it does in iOS
also I wish this were louder!!
barkmarkin said:
Hi guys, I just layed my 5S to the side for a Nexus 5, I use a Retina Macbook Pro with 10.9.2, I used an HTC One before the 5S, Its good to be back!, Well sound quality leaves alot to be desired but besides that, my BIGGEST PROBLEM, is that I cannot have screen wake up with notifications on the Nexus 5,
Also i would like to root my Nexus 5, and install a custom ROM
Since I don't know how on my Mac, can you guys help me out? Thanks in advance!
Also WHAT IS THE BEST ROM, Performance wise, Battery and quickness etc radio, I Want to get the most out of my Nexus 5... but also get the features I want
I can't live without screen waking up and showing notifications on lock screen like it does in iOS
also I wish this were louder!!
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To unlock the bootloader and root, see here and here.
There is NO "best" ROM nor kernel. Which is best for you is your own personal opinion. There are a large variety to choose from, and the Nexus 5 is a developer device so you'll have to problem flashing to your heart's content.
As for lockscreen notifications, enable lockscreen widgets and try out Dashclock.
barkmarkin said:
Hi guys, I just layed my 5S to the side for a Nexus 5, I use a Retina Macbook Pro with 10.9.2, I used an HTC One before the 5S, Its good to be back!, Well sound quality leaves alot to be desired but besides that, my BIGGEST PROBLEM, is that I cannot have screen wake up with notifications on the Nexus 5,
Also i would like to root my Nexus 5, and install a custom ROM
Since I don't know how on my Mac, can you guys help me out? Thanks in advance!
Also WHAT IS THE BEST ROM, Performance wise, Battery and quickness etc radio, I Want to get the most out of my Nexus 5... but also get the features I want
I can't live without screen waking up and showing notifications on lock screen like it does in iOS
also I wish this were louder!!
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I'd suggest carbon ROM and the elementalx kernel. Carbon ROM is one of the most feature filled ROMs out there and includes lockscreen notifications. Although I'm sure other ROM's include it. Nimrodity's ROM comparison spreadsheet (Original thread) is a great resource to compare Roms with. I also suggest elementalx because of its massively improved battery life while sleeping or idling all the while not degrading performance (at least not to the degree to which I can detect).
Hope I was helpful!
Thanks! all i want is a good stable stock rom with ability to delete **** i dont need
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Xposed framework allows for most custom ROM features without actually flashing a custom ROM. Check it out. +1 on elementalx, it's great though I haven't had as much success with the newer versions as the older ones.
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I use notify me app from the play store, which does essentially the exact same thing that you are looking for to wake up the screen on notifications.
I love Xjparadroid ROM as it has halo, is really smooth and also got pie... Franco and Elemental x are my two favorite kernels.
After rooting, just flash the mod to increase the volume levels in the themes section. It does increase the volume by approx. 50%
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I find Trinity much better than Elemental but that's just my opinion.
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First of all welcome to the world of Open Source..!
We do not allow best ROM/Kernel threads on XDA. Developers do not like seeing their work compared to others along with the fact that everyone has their own opinions. What's best for you may not be what is best for someone else. Best advice is to head over to the development section try some out and see which best suits your needs.
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[Q] Nexus 5 vs Lg G2

Hello, I have been through a terrible doubt. Next week I will buy my new phone. I currently have a Nexus 4 because I always liked the modifications and custom roms.
As I have not much money, so I need to choose between Nexus 5 16Gb version and the G2 version of 32 Gb
I realize that the G2 has
- Better Camera
- Better Battery
- Better Screen
- Double of the Storage
And the Nexus 5 has been more fluid in 3d games videos in youtube, despite worsening in the benchmarks, and has more roms and ability to receive new system designs such as Ubuntu and Sailfish
It's worth leaving all these points better in the G2 for the stability and roms of the Nexus 5?
Thanks (Sorry for the bad english)
G2 is a great phone, you will not go wrong
Nexus 5 BRO!
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Let's see what other users think of this. A balanced opinion will be best to help others as well. In my case, I'm using LG G2. It's an awesome phone downright. But now, I feel like getting a Nexus 5 coz I believe it's easier to root & to flash custom roms plus there are plenty of support in the forum. G2 is easy to root but can also easily get into eternal bootloop, even if you've done everything right.
But again, G2 is a solid phone if you are a normal user who doesn't care about updates and rooting and flashing custom roms and such.
Or, I could easily go back to Samsung phones as those happen to be the easiest to root & to flash custom rom.
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Low activity for the X play

While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
Benjamin_L said:
While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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Nexus as everyone knows has a huge fan following. This particular device hasn't much fan following. The stock firmware is already out. Unattractive I won't say.
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The more owners any given model has, the more likely it is that there are programmers among them capable of android development. Then there's the question of how much of the drivers/firmware is available as open source or compatible third-party stuff. Finally, there's the question of how much the phone actually benefits from custom anything.
Currently, i am on a stock ROM stock kernel with xposed and gravitybox and i currently have no open wishes ... except maybe the LED notification light, that would only work with a custom kernel.
X play is great, even with stock
@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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For systemwide themes, layers is there and everything is settled.
Even the sound performance on earphones is so good, no need of any sound mods. ?
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I'm waiting on my phone too, but the community will hopefully pick up as more dev teams get their hands on the device and whatnot. Things should gain traction after the overall international release of Marshmallow on this device is done, I'd say. Fingers crossed.
That's true. I was using xiaomi mi3 . great hardware for its price. But hated to use KitKat forever. It has got great developers .
But once I lost the mobile I got mxp. Honestly it's got very less support at the moment. I expected lot of activity.
I used to have so many notifications in xda when I was using mi3
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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Having recently ordered this phone to replace my N5, this is reassuring to hear.
MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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I do agree with you on the superior performance of the N5 compared to the MXP. But let's focus on the important things, do we want to charge our smartphone everytime at the end of the day?
This is one of the reasons I moved from my beloved N5 to this new phone. Regularly, I use my smartphone for IM, browsing and e-mail. Do I need to have the best performance ? Certainly not.
More important is to have a phone that brings a battery endurance that lasts up to 2 days. The N5 in my 2 years of usage was like driving a ferrari. Unprecedented performance but an appalling operating range (battery life), charging the phone twice a day was nothing special.
As for the dev activity. The nexus community is unmatched when it comes to this. It can certainly be better but we have xposed framework + gravity box and also an unoffical cm13 build that looks promising to reach official status soon.
Cheers,
Ynternet
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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No Nexus phone offers Bluetooth aptX or µSD card support, the bright screen of the MXP is excellent in itself, the front facing speaker is loud etc.
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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Patience friend, Marshmallow is coming.
Joining the family soon.. To be precise Tomorrow.
I wouldn't compare Motorola's phones to Nexus line at all. Dev's love Nexuses, they always did. Sure, Moto's look kinda similar, being so close to stock and all, but it's not actually stock android right? You can kinda see the dev scene picking up slowly and I think it's only going to get better once MM is available worldwide.
On a side note, it's nice to see I wasn't the only one coming from Nexus 5 to MXP. Turns out there are plenty of people willing to trade off some pure benchmark performance for actual quality-of-life improvements, like battery and screen.
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My previous phone was a nexus 5 also, roll on MM.

This phone is depressing! A few thoughts and ramblings...

First off let me say that I love this phone. The build quality while not the best is good enough and the materials used come together very nicely. The Moto X also has all the features I am looking for (quick charge, nice screen, stereo front facing speakers, expandable storage and unlocked and rootable!).
So why am I depressed about it?
The phone seems to not be as popular as it deserves and with that it doesn't get the massive amounts of support of other inferior devices. After owning this phone since October I have tried my hardest to grow to love the stock firmware as it is so close to google's. However (I'm not sure how many of you will agree with me here), I am very fond of CM and seeing that the Moto G 2015 has been officially supported for what feels like forever now I'm not sure the Moto X will ever be.
I know there are dedicated individuals working hard to further development projects for this device and I am very grateful for that. It just feels like the community for this phone is very small which has caught me off guard because the device seemingly has everything most people could want.
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure why I wrote this but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts and opinions.
I agree with you that I was assuming there would be way more support for this phone and I also though it would be easier to mess with as far as rooting and such. I'm no developer or self proclaimed rooting expert but it seems like if you are on android 6.0 stock it's not that easy to get rooted or downgrade to 5.x and root. I thought being unlocked and so near stock that this would all be a breeze but ever since I unrooted and upgraded to stock 6.0 rooting again is a pretty big undertaking. I'm not complaining here I do really like the stock OS but I love messing with the OS too. Here's to hoping some time in the near future there is a solid root option for stock 6.0
When I first seen the title I was like 'really'?/But as iv read further , there's one spot on point I agree with you on...
I expected the this phone to be one of the more popular, development wise, rom wise.
So when I first came to XDA and looked in the Moto X Pure section, WOW, I was sadly SADLY surprised.
3 CURRENT ROMS. are you joking me?
I told my self once the kernel source(or whatever) was released, THAT'S when things would change, that is when the list would grow..... IT HAS NOT THO....
THIS has been a let down. When I buy a phone, I want to be sure bec to me, its a hassle to do Re-Sale on EBay or Swappa or CL, Its just a hassle, I don't want to do it, Unless I absolutely have to. SO I'm sticking with the phone I buy most likely. So I'm sticking with it.
I could have spent 100 more to get the 6p, but at that time, everyone was talking DOWN the 6p, plus its a tad too big for me, I didn't want it then. Given the unpopularity in development this phone surprisingly is, it would be nice to have the 6p, but to me, going through the resale hassle, I think I'll pass.
Lastly, to the OP of this Post. I agree on one point, its very very surprising the unpopularity of the phone STILL. It's almost unexplainable.
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Ive been a long time lg and htc user prior to this.... Yes theres few roms but heres my take.... while lg g2 g3 g4 have lots of roms activities and users... Let me tell you how it works... First most of the ppl on there only complain about bugs and how they bricked their phones or complain of the hideous lg stock rom lag and interface... Then they flash bug filled. Aosp roms and complain about bugs and camera etc..... Wit moto x ppl dont have to be active in the forum bc first.. Stock rom is aosp... ....... Everything just works and feels great... And you can falsh optimized stock rom and ull have stability of stock roms+fluidness of aosp roms...(no need for users to stick around to complain... They jt flash they're rom and are of to enjoy it) You jt cant lose with this phone!!!! I appreciate the heck out of my fone and of mostly intelligent satisfied users!!!! Im my opinion this phone is second to only the nexus 6p right now.... And well the reason i have this is bc i got it for a measly 83$ on a amazing deal on ebay... Anyways. Thats alll... My opinion is complete
Edit.... Oh and ive nvr owned a phone with a signal quality even close to this one... Its baffling how much better it is then it was on my m8 or g3 or g4...
I came from the LG G4, what they did there is they got a well known Cyanogen Dev to agree to support that device if they helped him get it.
They got Codeworkx, (a great developer btw) and he jump started development right away squashing bugs left and right.
Maybe they can do that here? get a well known Developer to agree and see if they can get donations going for him.
I know things like this have gone down south before with devs not commiting and dropping/selling the device right away.
But there are good devs are there that are commited but just dont have funds to get devices.
Historically, the moto x line has never had much development. My own personal opinion is because there isn't much need: updates come fast, stock moto features are excellent, and performance tends to be very good and there is very little bloat. Other than the nexus line, where the devs have source code to work with, devices that come with good software tend to get less developer interest.
Obviously there are exceptions to this, just my observations after owning many phones over the years.
I just got the X for my dad and i believe its perfect for him (not so sure about the large display though), but he won't be messing around with ROMs and stuff.
However, I simply can't decide between this and the 5x for myself (6P is out of my budget). I love everything the X Style offers but I dread that I will soon get bored of the stock experience and crave for the bells and whistles that custom ROMs offer. The downside to flashing a ROM on the X is you lose out on Moto Display, Voice, Actions, and Assist--is that not the case? If I'm not mistaken, isn't Moto's implementation of these features significantly better than those found in CM?
I will echo what's been said and maybe add some points of my own. I love this phone I do, and maybe the fact that it has no issues is the issue but I also love seeing what else there is out there as far as rom's etc. I have yet to even root/unlock this phone because I almost see no major reason. I mean major, I know there's some xposed modules and whatnot but I used to love/hate trying out new roms just to see what they're like even with the bugs. I've moved on from the whole hack your phone scene but only because it seems to be less and less fun. Maybe the fact that the moto x pure is great as is, is the issue. No reason to really change anything. It's a good problem to have I guess.
roofrider said:
I just got the X for my dad and i believe its perfect for him (not so sure about the large display though), but he won't be messing around with ROMs and stuff.
However, I simply can't decide between this and the 5x for myself (6P is out of my budget). I love everything the X Style offers but I dread that I will soon get bored of the stock experience and crave for the bells and whistles that custom ROMs offer. The downside to flashing a ROM on the X is you lose out on Moto Display, Voice, Actions, and Assist--is that not the case? If I'm not mistaken, isn't Moto's implementation of these features significantly better than those found in CM?
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Moto's implementation is MUCH better than you'll find on any rom and/or xposed module. You will not find touchless display and moto voice that work well anywhere else. Also, you can get bells and whistles by installing gravitybox on stock-based roms. I've ran cm12.1/13 on my oneplus one for nearly a year and since switching to the moto x with gravitybox, I don't miss a thing.
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Ive been a long time lg and htc user prior to this.... Yes theres few roms but heres my take.... while lg g2 g3 g4 have lots of roms activities and users... Let me tell you how it works... First most of the ppl on there only complain about bugs and how they bricked their phones or complain of the hideous lg stock rom lag and interface... Then they flash bug filled. Aosp roms and complain about bugs and camera etc..... Wit moto x ppl dont have to be active in the forum bc first.. Stock rom is aosp... ....... Everything just works and feels great... And you can falsh optimized stock rom and ull have stability of stock roms+fluidness of aosp roms...(no need for users to stick around to complain... They jt flash they're rom and are of to enjoy it) You jt cant lose with this phone!!!! I appreciate the heck out of my fone and of mostly intelligent satisfied users!!!! Im my opinion this phone is second to only the nexus 6p right now.... And well the reason i have this is bc i got it for a measly 83$ on a amazing deal on ebay... Anyways. Thats alll... My opinion is complete[emoji14]
Edit.... Oh and ive nvr owned a phone with a signal quality even close to this one... Its baffling how much better it is then it was on my m8 or g3 or g4...
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Good points. I do wish we had a bit more variety rom wise tho.
Yeah 6p was just out my price range at the time, and also it wasnt as popular of a Choice at its launch as its been more recently.
For me specifically, I consume a lot of media, so speakers are a bit more important to me than some others, and was close to the most important feature I was looking for. I came from the htc M7, so when I heard the MXPE, I was not disappointed. As someone else said, this phone probably has the best speakers on a phone, even the 6p...... based on reviews and YouTube videos only.
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Theres not much to fix on this device, if and when CM gets official, you will see more rom in the dev section.
I love this phone that it doesnt get in my way and works just how I want it, heck I dont even keep tapatalk on my phone anymore since I never need to come here look for fixes or improvements
it is just 6months of release.. i think rom numbers and kernel numbers will improve over time...also the processor is almost new...there is very less work on msm8992...
also no vendor gives updates so fast.
LGs,HTCs,Samsungs take forever to update
emoney1219 said:
I agree with you that I was assuming there would be way more support for this phone and I also though it would be easier to mess with as far as rooting and such. I'm no developer or self proclaimed rooting expert but it seems like if you are on android 6.0 stock it's not that easy to get rooted or downgrade to 5.x and root. I thought being unlocked and so near stock that this would all be a breeze but ever since I unrooted and upgraded to stock 6.0 rooting again is a pretty big undertaking. I'm not complaining here I do really like the stock OS but I love messing with the OS too. Here's to hoping some time in the near future there is a solid root option for stock 6.0
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Unlock the bootloader, flash twrp through platform tools(adb-fastboot), flash chainfire supersu systemless root, it takes 10 min.
Yes, there are less ROMs compared to many other phones, but you must consider that most other phones don't come with a nearly pure Android experience. Those custom ROMs all try to focus on AOSP/CM builds that provide a pure Android experience along with extra features. This phone just doesn't need that as much.
Personally, I use to love flashing different ROMs to find the one that provides the best performance and feature set combination. This phone already has the performance, and Xposed and Layers provide all the features and custom look as desired. We also have a few solid kernels, too.
If you need a lot of ROMs, pick a phone that has a manufacturer-built version of Android that developers want to replace or a Nexus phone
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The stock ROM, rooted with Xposed and GravityBox can cover most of what a custom ROM can give you. And without the bugs.
Faint333 said:
First off let me say that I love this phone. The build quality while not the best is good enough and the materials used come together very nicely. The Moto X also has all the features I am looking for (quick charge, nice screen, stereo front facing speakers, expandable storage and unlocked and rootable!).
So why am I depressed about it?
The phone seems to not be as popular as it deserves and with that it doesn't get the massive amounts of support of other inferior devices. After owning this phone since October I have tried my hardest to grow to love the stock firmware as it is so close to google's. However (I'm not sure how many of you will agree with me here), I am very fond of CM and seeing that the Moto G 2015 has been officially supported for what feels like forever now I'm not sure the Moto X will ever be.
I know there are dedicated individuals working hard to further development projects for this device and I am very grateful for that. It just feels like the community for this phone is very small which has caught me off guard because the device seemingly has everything most people could want.
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure why I wrote this but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts and opinions.
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It's not depressing if you have Xposed framework and VZW Unlimited Data. I may keep this phone for 1-2 years instead of upgrading every 6 months.
I agree, just got this phone the other day and i thought there'd be a lot of rom support, easy rooting, more mods, etc. Kind of a shame for a very good phone.
About the camera
My main complaint about this phone after owning a LG G4 and Galaxy S6 is the lack of the camera 2 API. Why after virtually bringing this feature on board of the Google Nexus 6 and claming that this phone have a comparable camera to last year's flagships, they take away something out, that us owners are more than capable of taking advantage. The camera is good, but could be better, and if they don't feel like doing it we should've been able to do something about it. Dumb move Motorola.
One problem with this phone is that it has to have qcoms multi Sim implementation. So you will not see (m)any AOSP based ROM's.
This because it is a lot of work to make multi Sim work. And yes the implementation of Qualcomm multi Sim is different then the aosp implementation.
You will only see CM based custom ROM's or stock based modifications. CM based ROM's because CM has a lot more resources to integrate this.
(I tried to get omnirom working, but ran into the multi Sim problem).
the design was good but i got tired of the lag and overheating, even on the s808 chip. went to the iphone 6s for 2 months then im back on droid but with a nexus 6p. best device ive had, no lag or overheating, great support. maybe the OP should consider buying it.
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JOSE89178 said:
I agree, just got this phone the other day and i thought there'd be a lot of rom support, easy rooting, more mods, etc. Kind of a shame for a very good phone.
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alot of it has to do with levono buying moto and the uncertain future of the moto line. plus the fact moto seems to drop support easily.

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