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The Perfect Rom (HTC One S)

Hi All:
Did you ever think how the perfect rom should be ?
a Perfect rom for me is a rom which
1- Have CM settings and options .
2- Have the Sense Image Camera App working as stock rom.
3- Heavy duty Battery serving.
4- No bugs or force close.
5- Stable with No mistakes.
What else ??
Is such a rom even exist ??!
I don't know if this wish is so hard to achieve for HTC or any other mobile band company.
for me my problem with the stock sense rom is stability and little amount of setting available for the user, App keep crashing .....
and some thing driving me crazy which it is that I can't turn vibration off when I answer a call because there is no option to do that , HTC team think that every one like this option and they forget that people think in different way and what you love must I hate it.
Come on HTC think again about what you are doing.
Samsung , Sony , HTC ....ect the only thing they care about is to distinguish from each other " I'm using Android but my Android is different than your Android" ..... Just Like Children
In the end I'd like to say that I respect Huawei so much, they offer for the user to use stock Android system and other Huawei UI in case that you don't like the stock Android, other companies should check and learn how to satisfy the customer

I would love a cm10+ Rom with sense camera.. best of both.. don't know if it can be done though.. no bugs etc is a given..
Sent a from Jellyrolled One S

Why don't you try the Viper ROM?
It has the Sense Cam (CM will probably never have it) and you can enable the CM-like quicksettings in the notification bar. It also has pretty good battery life and is also close to having no bugs.

No bugs? Yea dream on, thats never gonna happen as long as its humans who writes the code.

I switched from Viper to CM a few months ago and have been extremely happy with the product. Viper was unfortunately too slow, even when OC. CM10 is extremely smooth and fast, even without a custom kernel for OC. The camera for CM, however, is extremely disappointing. It is not nearly poor enough where I would switch ROMs, but it definitely needs considerable improvement to been anywhere near that offered by any Sense-based ROM.
My vote is for CM with good camera, too.

What about Snap Camera - haven't used it but I've heard good things about it.

Thank you for your replies guys
For me I'm using Viper One S 2.1.0
It is cool rom but .............. still there is no real CM like settings.
In the first place , why we selected an Android phones ............... there is Windows Phone 8, iOS Apple , Nokia Symbian and more....
But our choice was Android, the ability to fully control & customize the mobile.
Stock roms specially sense make alot of limitation and even also with alot of bugs and unstable performance after long process of destroying the real And pure Android !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that Google should put a condition to any mobile company want to use Android which it is offering the customers the freedom between using the Stock company rom (sense ,touch wize samsung ....ect..) or the pure Google Android.
Then we will see how many users will keep using a rom like sense

Liquidsmooth by Droyd is my favourite right now. Fastest rom I've ever used. And it looks stable so far!
Regards!

Sounds like you want a Nexus 4 instead of a One S.
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Simco80 said:
Sounds like you want a Nexus 4 instead of a One S.
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To be honest I don't trust LG and all Nexus 4 issues and I don't think that one day I will buy any thing from LG except the washing mashine :laugh:, the HTC hardware is amazing but............... software is below average.
It is a matter of open source, all what HTC should do is to provide a fix for camera app in CM and well known roms to satisfy their loyal customers

one-option said:
Thank you for your replies guys
For me I'm using Viper One S 2.1.0
It is cool rom but .............. still there is no real CM like settings.
In the first place , why we selected an Android phones ............... there is Windows Phone 8, iOS Apple , Nokia Symbian and more....
But our choice was Android, the ability to fully control & customize the mobile.
Stock roms specially sense make alot of limitation and even also with alot of bugs and unstable performance after long process of destroying the real And pure Android !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that Google should put a condition to any mobile company want to use Android which it is offering the customers the freedom between using the Stock company rom (sense ,touch wize samsung ....ect..) or the pure Google Android.
Then we will see how many users will keep using a rom like sense
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name a setting in cm that doesn't exist in viper..... besides quiet hours...
you have quick settings, you can change battery icons, you can change carrier txt, you can do MORE than what cm offers actually....
PS since sense is closed source you'll never see sense camera on AOSP it's impossible to do since every app that you see in sense is tied to the framework.
and if you don't like sense go buy a nexus phone... seriously.. sense is great and with dev's like torx he gave you more options than half the AOSP roms have.. and what limitations you're speaking of i'd really like to know, all the included sense apps have 10 times for thought and convienence set that stock aosp.. though i do agree that google should make all oems allow users to choose aosp or oem provided there's a reason they dont.. THATS WHY GOOGLE HAS THE NEXUS BRAND!!!!!
... jus sayin

"If you dont like sense buy a nexus"... What kind of bullsh*t is that?
The HOS is superior in every way except for sense - which can easily be solved with an AOSP rom...

Goatshocker said:
"If you dont like sense buy a nexus"... What kind of bullsh*t is that?
The HOS is superior in every way except for sense - which can easily be solved with an AOSP rom...
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how would you say that the HTC One S is better than the nexus 4?
keep in mind.. i build aosp roms... i like them both, i have an htc phone for the build quality and the option to have sense and aosp.. aosp is very basic.. i love sense for work and how easy it is to use.. i know the ins and outs of both os's very very well..

evol4g said:
name a setting in cm that doesn't exist in viper..... besides quiet hours...
you have quick settings, you can change battery icons, you can change carrier txt, you can do MORE than what cm offers actually....
PS since sense is closed source you'll never see sense camera on AOSP it's impossible to do since every app that you see in sense is tied to the framework.
and if you don't like sense go buy a nexus phone... seriously.. sense is great and with dev's like torx he gave you more options than half the AOSP roms have.. and what limitations you're speaking of i'd really like to know, all the included sense apps have 10 times for thought and convienence set that stock aosp.. though i do agree that google should make all oems allow users to choose aosp or oem provided there's a reason they dont.. THATS WHY GOOGLE HAS THE NEXUS BRAND!!!!!
... jus sayin
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OK I will name you a setting it is the vibrate on connect check for details in internet
I know sense camera is only available in sense based rom , and this is the reason that I still use sense...................
I don't like sense at all but I like HTC and the good hardware, I like Nexus but i don't trust LG hardware...
As I said Huawei offer AOSP beside their own UI so where is the problem ?

one-option said:
OK I will name you a setting it is the vibrate on connect check for details in internet
I know sense camera is only available in sense based rom , and this is the reason that I still use sense...................
I don't like sense at all but I like HTC and the good hardware, I like Nexus but i don't trust LG hardware...
As I said Huawei offer AOSP beside their own UI so where is the problem ?
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didn't even know that existed... but that's very minute.. you're right htc does make the best hardware, and just because one OEM allows you to choose aosp doesn't mean all will. That's the reason there's a distinction in phone brands... And if you don't like it thats what us developers are here for so we can make tons of aosp options for ya'll

Looking forward to your sense rom evol4g......

evol4g said:
how would you say that the HTC One S is better than the nexus 4?
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Form factor. The whole point of the One S for a lot of people is to have a slightly smaller phone that allows you to browse comfortably one-handed without adjusting your grip (I'm sure someone will claim they can do the same with a One X or Nexus, but come on... 4.7" is a bit much for a lot of people, let alone 5" in the Galaxy S 4).
Also, build quality in the One S might be a bit better than the Nexus 4 and certainly anything by Samsung. Would love to have an HD screen in this size but the QHD isn't bad. Anything over 250 ppi is fine for my eyes.

ChrisAG said:
Form factor. The whole point of the One S for a lot of people is to have a slightly smaller phone that allows you to browse comfortably one-handed without adjusting your grip (I'm sure someone will claim they can do the same with a One X or Nexus, but come on... 4.7" is a bit much for a lot of people, let alone 5" in the Galaxy S 4).
Also, build quality in the One S might be a bit better than the Nexus 4 and certainly anything by Samsung. Would love to have an HD screen in this size but the QHD isn't bad. Anything over 250 ppi is fine for my eyes.
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Well said....+ 1....
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Goatshocker said:
No bugs? Yea dream on, thats never gonna happen as long as its humans who writes the code.
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I'm using it for two weeks now and I got no problem with it. No bugs, fc just pure awesomeness.
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ChrisAG said:
Form factor. The whole point of the One S for a lot of people is to have a slightly smaller phone that allows you to browse comfortably one-handed without adjusting your grip (I'm sure someone will claim they can do the same with a One X or Nexus, but come on... 4.7" is a bit much for a lot of people, let alone 5" in the Galaxy S 4).
Also, build quality in the One S might be a bit better than the Nexus 4 and certainly anything by Samsung. Would love to have an HD screen in this size but the QHD isn't bad. Anything over 250 ppi is fine for my eyes.
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That was my thoughts when buying the phone last year. The One S looks and feels unique, and the screen size is perfect for normal phone & texting usage. I had the option to pickup the Galaxy S III for $50 more, but the Sense UI felt smoother to me - not to mention the camera app.

[Q] Potential new owner, key question, knockon

I'm currently debating between a LG G2 and a Nexus 5, and leaning toward the Nexus 5 because I really want the stock Android experience. But I absolutely love the Knockon feature on the G2. Some quick search shows that Nexus 5 has this implemented via custom kernels. My question is if this implementation is just as good that of the G2 (i.el, consistent, no buggy behavior, no heavy battery drain), and if it can be done by flashing just a kernel or mod (leaving the base Google Android intact. Kind of tired of messing with tons of custom ROM's. Want the stock one and sticking to it.)
Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

The knock knock feature requires the digitizer to stay on so yes, there will be some battery drain but I think some users report like 2% in an hour which is perfectly acceptable to me. I used knock for a while on the Chaos Kernel when it was not CAF based and it worked just as it should. I am sure things have only improved in the latest kernels. There is a dev that adds the double tap to wake/ sleep to some of the most popular kernels such as Franco and elementalx.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524557 bricked kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524422 neohammer
These were just on the first page but I know there's a dev that adds these features to franco which is popular and so on.

Hello,
Well, first of all you ask such a question in the Nexus 5 forum?! Obviously people are going to tell you to buy the Nexus! Knockon/dt2w features has been implemented on N5 by our awesome devs but people have reported that they are suffering from battery drain!
It really comes down to your choice basically. Yes, the G2 might have a bigger battery but the N5 will have long time support from Google (since it's a nexus) and from our devs off course! That's the reason why all of us fell in love with the Nexus 5!

I use Touch Control. It's awesome, and doesn't have any noticeable effect on the battery.

Nexus 5 owner
Some months ago I was wondering almost the same thing, between the Nexus 5 and Motorola X. Finally I decided to buy the Nexus 5 (primarily because its price) but the point here is that now I have 3 months with it, and I can tell you I'm very happy with it.
It depends on your preferences, I like the stock android experience and the huge developer support for the Nexus rather than a phone full of features, sometimes unnecessary features. And with XDA and some time you can have a Nexus full of features too.

[Q] Nexus 5 vs Lg G2

Hello, I have been through a terrible doubt. Next week I will buy my new phone. I currently have a Nexus 4 because I always liked the modifications and custom roms.
As I have not much money, so I need to choose between Nexus 5 16Gb version and the G2 version of 32 Gb
I realize that the G2 has
- Better Camera
- Better Battery
- Better Screen
- Double of the Storage
And the Nexus 5 has been more fluid in 3d games videos in youtube, despite worsening in the benchmarks, and has more roms and ability to receive new system designs such as Ubuntu and Sailfish
It's worth leaving all these points better in the G2 for the stability and roms of the Nexus 5?
Thanks (Sorry for the bad english)

G2 is a great phone, you will not go wrong

Nexus 5 BRO!
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Let's see what other users think of this. A balanced opinion will be best to help others as well. In my case, I'm using LG G2. It's an awesome phone downright. But now, I feel like getting a Nexus 5 coz I believe it's easier to root & to flash custom roms plus there are plenty of support in the forum. G2 is easy to root but can also easily get into eternal bootloop, even if you've done everything right.
But again, G2 is a solid phone if you are a normal user who doesn't care about updates and rooting and flashing custom roms and such.
Or, I could easily go back to Samsung phones as those happen to be the easiest to root & to flash custom rom.
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go here for this ...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229761

Which phone is better nexus 5 or g2 ?

I want know which one better ?!

They're both the same in my opinion the Nexus have stock Android experience. LG has their own ui. They're both made by LG my wife has a g2 I've never even held the Nexus fine I can vouch that the g2 is a wonderful phone.
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dodora3d said:
I want know which one better ?!
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Go For Nexus 5 ,because it have pure android experience with gives better performance and better ram usages.
One thing is great of nexus devices that it will gate android update firstly than other devices.
So, Go for Nexus 5 :thumbup:

The Nexus 5 has more development than any other phone. Being a Nexus, it's the quickest to receive official updates from Google. Combined, these 2 facts mean even custom ROMs and kernels get updated quicker than other devices.
Apart from that though, the LG G2 is a better phone. Basically the same dimensions, but .2" bigger screen, a much larger battery, and a far better camera. The G2 doesn't really lack for development either; there's plenty of ROMs and kernels, plus the stock ROM has some cool features and can be tweaked to your liking with Xposed.

thanks all... if i bought N5 can add more Features like knock on multi tasking .ect ?
and what about battery usage ? good or what ?

any opinion !?

dodora3d said:
thanks all... if i bought N5 can add more Features like knock on
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There are kernels that have this feature (dt2w - double tap to wake).
multi tasking
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All androids can multi-task. But if you mean multiple windows, then no.
and what about battery usage ? good or what ?
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Mediocre at best.

Very good battery with some kernels like CodeBlue, Uber, Franco, etc.! Congratz and enjoy!

Planterz said:
There are kernels that have this feature (dt2w - double tap to wake).
good (Y)
All androids can multi-task. But if you mean multiple windows, then no.
yes that's what i mean multiple widnows ^_^
Mediocre at best.
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for chat and wifi fb etc. how long stay on ?
galaxys said:
Very good battery with some kernels like CodeBlue, Uber, Franco, etc.! Congratz and enjoy!
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thank you ^_^

You should buy Nexus 5 because it is the phone made exclusively for developers. And the best thing is that you will get Android Updates earliest than any other phones in the world

Nexus 5 all nexus' are great (except camera) and come with stock android, fast updates, great for developers and can show off by having it.

Low activity for the X play

While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work

Benjamin_L said:
While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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Nexus as everyone knows has a huge fan following. This particular device hasn't much fan following. The stock firmware is already out. Unattractive I won't say.
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The more owners any given model has, the more likely it is that there are programmers among them capable of android development. Then there's the question of how much of the drivers/firmware is available as open source or compatible third-party stuff. Finally, there's the question of how much the phone actually benefits from custom anything.
Currently, i am on a stock ROM stock kernel with xposed and gravitybox and i currently have no open wishes ... except maybe the LED notification light, that would only work with a custom kernel.

X play is great, even with stock
@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.

dev>null said:
@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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For systemwide themes, layers is there and everything is settled.
Even the sound performance on earphones is so good, no need of any sound mods. ?
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I'm waiting on my phone too, but the community will hopefully pick up as more dev teams get their hands on the device and whatnot. Things should gain traction after the overall international release of Marshmallow on this device is done, I'd say. Fingers crossed.

That's true. I was using xiaomi mi3 . great hardware for its price. But hated to use KitKat forever. It has got great developers .
But once I lost the mobile I got mxp. Honestly it's got very less support at the moment. I expected lot of activity.
I used to have so many notifications in xda when I was using mi3
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.

MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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Having recently ordered this phone to replace my N5, this is reassuring to hear.

MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.

fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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I do agree with you on the superior performance of the N5 compared to the MXP. But let's focus on the important things, do we want to charge our smartphone everytime at the end of the day?
This is one of the reasons I moved from my beloved N5 to this new phone. Regularly, I use my smartphone for IM, browsing and e-mail. Do I need to have the best performance ? Certainly not.
More important is to have a phone that brings a battery endurance that lasts up to 2 days. The N5 in my 2 years of usage was like driving a ferrari. Unprecedented performance but an appalling operating range (battery life), charging the phone twice a day was nothing special.
As for the dev activity. The nexus community is unmatched when it comes to this. It can certainly be better but we have xposed framework + gravity box and also an unoffical cm13 build that looks promising to reach official status soon.
Cheers,
Ynternet

fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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No Nexus phone offers Bluetooth aptX or µSD card support, the bright screen of the MXP is excellent in itself, the front facing speaker is loud etc.

fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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Patience friend, Marshmallow is coming.

Joining the family soon.. To be precise Tomorrow.

I wouldn't compare Motorola's phones to Nexus line at all. Dev's love Nexuses, they always did. Sure, Moto's look kinda similar, being so close to stock and all, but it's not actually stock android right? You can kinda see the dev scene picking up slowly and I think it's only going to get better once MM is available worldwide.
On a side note, it's nice to see I wasn't the only one coming from Nexus 5 to MXP. Turns out there are plenty of people willing to trade off some pure benchmark performance for actual quality-of-life improvements, like battery and screen.
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My previous phone was a nexus 5 also, roll on MM.