So according to Rogers it's "soon", lol.
So when do you think we're getting it?
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salutcemoi said:
So according to Rogers it's "soon", lol.
So when do you think we're getting it?
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Later then on At&t....lol... But I hope very soon..
I'm hoping within a day or two, but you never know with the Canadian carriers. I'm pretty sure we got 4.3 first though, so I'd imagine that it's ready to go.
hope the update will come soon, at&t has already the update....:highfive:it still indicated soon on roger site. hope it will come in the next two weeks:fingers-crossed:. What I like in kitkat above all is the mail, gmail like, and google now is integrated to the launcher. will see how samsung put it in their touchwiz.
Hope it comes to Fido soon. I'm thinking that if it comes to Rogers, then it should be ready for Fido also.
Even though I'm not using any SIM in it yet lol, wonder how that goes. I tried with Keys3 and it tells me I have the latest version (4.3).
I'm mostly excited for the snappier speed! It is sluggish in some parts in 4.3 and touchwiz really makes it slower than it's supposed to be!
Waiting on Telus
Then I'll be cookin'!
Edit: No S4 - 4.4.2 on the
Telus upcoming software updates...
damn
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wow wtf man
One of the reasons I left HTC for Samsung is faster updates
(I know there are Nexus for that, but Im not really interested in stock Android, except for the Nexus 7)
And now they are making us wait ?
3-4 weeks after ATT updates
Last time I chatted with Telus, the support team mentioned they generally release updates 3-4 weeks after AT&T. So looks like it will be end of March
i31us said:
Last time I chatted with Telus, the support team mentioned they generally release updates 3-4 weeks after AT&T. So looks like it will be end of March
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Interesting
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i31us said:
Last time I chatted with Telus, the support team mentioned they generally release updates 3-4 weeks after AT&T. So looks like it will be end of March
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not sure if they will be released at the same time but the last update(4.3) I installed on my Koodo S4 was the same one used for Bell S4.
Anyone remember if they all received the update the same day ?
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Interesting
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Last I checked Telus got the update before any other carrier at least it shows that kind of pattern on the firmware releases.
Either way can't wait to start cooking a 4.4 rom
Adizzzle said:
Last I checked Telus got the update before any other carrier at least it shows that kind of pattern on the firmware releases.
Either way can't wait to start cooking a 4.4 rom
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Seems all the Canadian S4 got the 4.3 on the same day
gangsta101 said:
Seems all the Canadian S4 got the 4.3 on the same day
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They did, I was just looking at the order they appear in the list.
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They did, I was just looking at the order they appear in the list.
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It's really frustrating that we pay the same as everyone else but are always the last to get an update. Last time, we got updated well after google had released a new version. Not even a leaked version??
8 times out of 10 Canadian Carriers release before AT&T
chill.
TRusselo said:
8 times out of 10 Canadian Carriers release before AT&T
chill.
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Not the case this time around
thatsupnow said:
Not the case this time around
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Nope, I blame the weather
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Well I ended up getting the Tmobile AOKP running for my jfltecan, just to mess around with some good ol' AOKP fun.
Just to pass the time..
Adizzzle said:
Well I ended up getting the Tmobile AOKP running for my jfltecan, just to mess around with some good ol' AOKP fun.
Just to pass the time..
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I've been running GE edition, love it. Only miss the Camera and video/audio quality.
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I've been running GE edition, love it. Only miss the Camera and video/audio quality.
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Gotta satisfy my flashing habit,
So I may have to check that one out!
Related
Almost there...everything working but just have to figure out how to release it
This is with Fission ROM and have not tried OEM ROM yet...
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impressive! nice to see that team defuse is working in this, can you get 3g with it?
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impressive! nice to see that team defuse is working in this, can you get 3g with it?
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Yeap! stupid me had the use only 2g option selected when taking pics. Waiting for my GF to come by tomorrow to do a nice vid.
You will not need to send phone anywhere and it is working on latest update.
It will be a paid service so will not be posted on forums unless XDA allows me to like how they do for the HTC unlockers...
Only like 5 bucks and free to FRM donators...not much...last I am speaking about it so I do not get in trouble with XDA
If I ever decide to get the droid 2 global over the desire z, I will definitely pay 5 bucks for this.
The only thing stooping me to getting a D2G is battery life
so awesome!! I would love this, so it should be as simple as a flash? I would deff pay for this!
If we already have the new update for the global would it still work to flash this rom?
We also have to already have it network unlocked with the subsidy code right?
How do I become an FRM donator and help fund this awesome development?
You go to the team defuse website and they have a link on how to donate, and they also keep you updated with news there
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lol this is not right..now I got go back to D2G from the DX after going to the DX from the D2G ..
I swear, my poor return warranty...is battery life any better yet? Especially on fission? and does it work on T-Mobile also?
well i cant wait! i hope XDA allows you to post this even though you are charging $5 for it. i'm going to buy a d2g as soon as this is released!
i cant wait for this! my only question is are there any random restarts on fission?
PS: the baseband is fully unlocked? (im on a milestone right now so i have no real idea about the d2g)
Can someone tell they will release that work for tmobile? And I have the phone but I can't activate it. When I call verizon they say I need to call my provider tmobile to activate it. Do anyone the same? Please help
Will this also work on the Droid Pro?
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Will this also work on the Droid Pro?
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That's a different beast entirely...
I'm sure it won't be long till they have a version of the Pro, but it seems that the Global is a priority.
Currentweb said:
That's a different beast entirely...
I'm sure it won't be long till they have a version of the Pro, but it seems that the Global is a priority.
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im so glad the global is priority! its so sweet!
kimbashiva said:
Can someone tell they will release that work for tmobile? And I have the phone but I can't activate it. When I call verizon they say I need to call my provider tmobile to activate it. Do anyone the same? Please help
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Is the T-mobile in the US? If so, the phone doesn't support T-mobile 3G bands anyway.
So if this is the patch released on FRM then it appears to not work with T-Mobile USA as I just tried it without success.
I would really like to see the evidence that this works at all.
A couple of screenshots with no data connection showing is hardly convincing.
I am well aware that it is possible to do, I have it working on my D2G with both T-Mobile and AT&T SIMs with Edge on T-Mobile and Edge,3G and HSPA all working on AT&T using the DroidBandUnlock method.
Their method makes modifications to the radio and I don't see how it is possible to do this via system level patches.
u t-mobile fans got the G2 already and the price is not expensive at all ....
get that one and quit complaining
lsxrx7 said:
u t-mobile fans got the G2 already and the price is not expensive at all ....
get that one and quit complaining
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I have Verizon, just would rather not carry around two phones everyday. Personal and Work.
cellzealot said:
I would really like to see the evidence that this works at all.
A couple of screenshots with no data connection showing is hardly convincing.
I am well aware that it is possible to do, I have it working on my D2G with both T-Mobile and AT&T SIMs with Edge on T-Mobile and Edge,3G and HSPA all working on AT&T using the DroidBandUnlock method.
Their method makes modifications to the radio and I don't see how it is possible to do this via system level patches.
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Is the DroidBandUnlock method publicly available yet? Also, does the latest OTA release block it, thought I saw that somewhere...
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@cellzealot where can I fine the site for the DroidBandUnlock?
Thanks
http://support.vzw.com/system_update/thunderbolt.html
No longer shows the 5/13/2011 dates in header and the main part of the page. The date is now BLANK? OTA today maybe ?????
Just sharing since I check it every hour waiting the update!
I'll believe it when I can download it. I refuse to get my hopes up!
The PDF indicates fixes for resets and power cycles, or is this the pdf from the MR1 update?
Nope and if you look at
Verizon Wireless is pleased to announce a new software update,
Build Number: 1.70.605.0 Baseband: 1.39.00.0613w, 0.01.69.0613w_1,
for your ThunderBolt™ by HTC.
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That is NOT the current we are on Build: 1.13.605.7 Baseband: 1.16.00.0402w_1
Best part right here LOL
Reduced number of device power cycles and resets.
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Nope and if you look at "Verizon Wireless is pleased to announce a new software update,
Build Number: 1.70.605.0 Baseband: 1.39.00.0613w, 0.01.69.0613w_1,
for your ThunderBolt™ by HTC."
That is NOT the current we are on Build: 1.13.605.7 Baseband: 1.16.00.0402w_1
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I just researched and you are right, that baseband appears much newer. I also noticed on the Incredible 2 update page, that it has no date listed. Perhaps these are coming down the tubes together this weekend.
mobile hotspot
Looks good, but you will likely have to say goodbye to the free mobile hotspot if you are not rooted.
And no mention of gingerbread for us non-rooted users.
docabe said:
Looks good, but you will likely have to say goodbye to the free mobile hotspot if you are not rooted.
And no mention of gingerbread for us non-rooted users.
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Yes, that is one thing I saw that was missing. However if this solves the stability issue then GB might be an easy push for them to get out. Or, they forgot to tack it onto the flyer
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Nope and if you look at
That is NOT the current we are on Build: 1.13.605.7 Baseband: 1.16.00.0402w_1
Best part right here LOL
Reduced number of device power cycles and resets.
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lol I thought that was funny as well. I bet it's figured out they just don't want to guarantee it so people don't scream as much.
What is the view apps in a tab menu?
I assume that one of the developers will have a leaked version for us rooted folks?
dms76 said:
I assume that one of the developers will have a leaked version for us rooted folks?
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All we really want is the radio anyways haha.
says nothing about GPS being fixed....
PhillyCheez said:
says nothing about GPS being fixed....
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When was GPS broken?
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All we really want is the radio anyways haha.
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Well you have a point! BAMF GB is good, but still has some weirdness to it. One of these days I'll get around to trying 1.8.6
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When was GPS broken?
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I've seen few reports of taking a long time to lock on to satellites, but even GPS devices like TOM TOM has these problems.
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Well you have a point! BAMF GB is good, but still has some weirdness to it. One of these days I'll get around to trying 1.8.6
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CM7 or bust!
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seriously? the GPS on the tbolt is a complete fail and it's a software issue. Using a third party GPS app to "fix" it that worked the first few times and now it locks in minutes (or till i just give up) rather than a couple seconds.
Sorry. I guess i was just spoiled being on the Dinc that locked instantly every single time.
But since you question it, i am jealous yours works.
I know it usually doesn't mean much but all day I've been getting the Service Unavailable error when checking for any updates
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Looks like update is do soon to me
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CM7 or bust!
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Sense fan, but yes I agree CM7 ran well on my DINC. Ok I think we might be getting off topic and going to get flamed! TTYL
Seen it this morning on the Moto blog! I know its not gonna be anytime soon but that we know officially we arent being left to oblivion is nice.
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Do you have a link?
Nevermind, found it.
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https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
haha googled it and found it.WOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!! Heres the link
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/02/15/update-motorola-ice-cream-sandwich-news/
Q3 rollout though? It might as well not be coming out at all. I feel certain that sometime between now and Q3 I will not be able to resist picking up some stupidly powerful quadcore tegra3 (or similar) device which will have launched with ICS, and probably for a decent price.
It all leaves me imagining that Motorola only have a single solitary developer with a shoestring budget tasked with putting out the software upgrades for their existing range of phones. Why else would it take so long?
Anyway, looks like our own wonderful development community is the place to pin our hopes for some kind of ICS goodness, within a reasonable time frame.
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Q3 rollout though? It might as well not be coming out at all.
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{sad trombone playing just for you}
Q3 starts around July so it's really not that far off. At least the phone isn't dead in the water.
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jacindc said:
{sad trombone playing just for you}
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Not a big fan of the trombone. I mean, I respect it as an instrument, and the people who play it as musicians, but it would have been much more helpful if you had picked something like a cello (which I also like much more than the violin).
You know, just FYI.
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Q3 rollout though? It might as well not be coming out at all.
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We'll get ICS WAYYYYYY before Q3. The dev are working on it as we speak the only thing stopping them is that they're missing the telephony.apk which we need in order to connect to a GSM network. Without it we have a really small tablet with ICS.
Since we know that there is ATLEAST 1 dev in Motorola working on it that means that there will be a working APK with any betas/alphas that get out into the wild. As soon as that happens you can bet jim or lfaber will jump on it and fisnish their ICS masterpiece and maybe make CM7 or CM9 with it.
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We'll get ICS WAYYYYYY before Q3. The dev are working on it as we speak the only thing stopping them is that they're missing the telephony.apk which we need in order to connect to a GSM network. Without it we have a really small tablet with ICS.
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Hence my comment:
"Anyway, looks like our own wonderful development community is the place to pin our hopes for some kind of ICS goodness, within a reasonable time frame."
Looking forward to it
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We'll get ICS WAYYYYYY before Q3. The dev are working on it as we speak the only thing stopping them is that they're missing the telephony.apk which we need in order to connect to a GSM network. Without it we have a really small tablet with ICS.
Since we know that there is ATLEAST 1 dev in Motorola working on it that means that there will be a working APK with any betas/alphas that get out into the wild. As soon as that happens you can bet jim or lfaber will jump on it and fisnish their ICS masterpiece and maybe make CM7 or CM9 with it.
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That is exactly correct!!!
So everyone keep checking cheesecake, ALL servers at least once a day, that is how we will find an early version, as we did with 2.3.6 months before it was out officially. If we get that, then yes we can get CM9 working.
I might have CM7 out here by the weekend, at least that is what I am hoping, but it is still not ICS, it is the 2.3.6 version.
I know its not as fast as we'd prefer, but isnt it nice to hear SOMETHING official from Moto about this phone? We all have been in limbo, heard assumptions, conflicting rumors/"inside" info, so I like that we at least know the future of our device, officially.
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I know its not as fast as we'd prefer, but isnt it nice to hear SOMETHING official from Moto about this phone? We all have been in limbo, heard assumptions, conflicting rumors/"inside" info, so I like that we at least know the future of our device, officially.
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See, sometimes inside info is a good thing... I was right on with the time frame I was given. Not showing anyone up or rubbing it in or anything, so don't take it that way.
great news! we do have a newer phone and the hardware is capable... glad to see moto planning ICS for Artix 2. I will probably never flash it cos I'll be on some custom rom built by the devs here!
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Great news. We own one of the most underrated phones out. 2.3.6 made the phone better, ics will hopefully put it over the top.
Thanks a lot for the info. I was reading the bootloader unlock thread when the news came out. That just made my day.
eL_MeXiCaNo said:
We'll get ICS WAYYYYYY before Q3. The dev are working on it as we speak the only thing stopping them is that they're missing the telephony.apk which we need in order to connect to a GSM network. Without it we have a really small tablet with ICS.
Since we know that there is ATLEAST 1 dev in Motorola working on it that means that there will be a working APK with any betas/alphas that get out into the wild. As soon as that happens you can bet jim or lfaber will jump on it and fisnish their ICS masterpiece and maybe make CM7 or CM9 with it.
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Well that and the locked bootloader. Doesn't that still hinder us a bit?
Can't wait hopefully we can find a bootloader unlock during the run up to ics
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Well, after trying every phone out there (including a brand new unlocked Galaxy Nexus (returned), SGSII, HTC Vivid, etc.) I can say without a doubt the A2 is the all-around best android phone out there for AT&T. I have come back to it everytime after finding the other phones were either cheaply built, couldn't hold a signal, couldn't obtain gps lock, or took crappy pics. While the A2 doesn't do any one thing extraordinarily better than other devices, the phone does everything well with good battery life and great screen to boot.
ICS will definitely make the A2 a keeper, especially if can finally unlock the bootloader for some custom kernel goodness
Q3 is July - September, when September comes expect an announcement about delays and when 2013 come expect your atrix 2 on ebay.
Well great News, Eye Experience coming to Verizon HTC One M8 as early as tomorrow noon.
Its great that HTC keeps up with promptly updates for the HTC M8 as well Verizon releasing it
early.Android 4.4.4? let see what's going on.
http://m.androidcentral.com/eye-experience-coming-verizon-htc-one-m8-owners-soon-tomorrow
finanandroid said:
Well great News, Eye Experience coming to Verizon HTC One M8 as early as tomorrow noon.
Its great that HTC keeps up with promptly updates for the HTC M8 as well Verizon releasing it
early.Android 4.4.4? let see what's going on.
http://m.androidcentral.com/eye-experience-coming-verizon-htc-one-m8-owners-soon-tomorrow
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Maybe, just maybe Verizon is starting to get that slow updates suck. Maybe. Did I say maybe?
I can't wait for this, will run stock rooted & check out the battery see if its amazing. Might also convert to ART to help out battery.
Don't take the update. At least s off first
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Tigertown will have the firmware available as soon as it drops and custom roms are planned for right after so don't jump the gun.
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As Sunshine was updated so quickly last time I have to at least be suspicious of why Verizon would push this update out so quickly, Verizon is never this quick to do anything beneficial for it's customers.....
Dougau said:
As Sunshine was updated so quickly last time I have to at least be suspicious of why Verizon would push this update out so quickly, Verizon is never this quick to do anything beneficial for it's customers.....
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Who cares why. I'm glad they stop being slow pokes and becoming better at updates. [emoji6]
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Relax guys, this update is just for the "eye experience" that's why this update is being pushed out so quickly. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Relax guys, this update is just for the "eye experience" that's why this update is being pushed out so quickly. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Eye Experience, 5 NEW Themes, Android 4.4.4, Improved Battery Performance, New Radios.....count me in for being excited
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Eye Experience, 5 NEW Themes, Android 4.4.4, Improved Battery Performance, New Radios.....count me in for being excited
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+1
krazie1 said:
Eye Experience, 5 NEW Themes, Android 4.4.4, Improved Battery Performance, New Radios.....count me in for being excited
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Indeed ?
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The Stig 04 said:
Relax guys, this update is just for the "eye experience" that's why this update is being pushed out so quickly. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Seems a little more than just a camera update. Verizon has done a good job at locking down Motorola devices running 4.4.4, just saying I wouldn't take the OTA without already being s-off if you ever want to root again, I guess time will tell...
Also it improves the sound. the OTA changes firmware of audio components to newer than on Harman/Kardon version. It's first audio update I think for the "normal" version of One M8.
And fixes the cracking that can be heard at high volume with some headphones.
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Don't take the update. At least s off first
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why wait? I thought that HTC pledged to not lock their phones down in any way.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why wait? I thought that HTC pledged to not lock their phones down in any way.
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Yea but if u get a carrier m8 like vzw and att they locks theirs.
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It's heeeeerrrrreeee........
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I'm downloading it now...where do I find the install file??
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I'm downloading it now...where do I find the install file??
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The zip should be in cache, let me find the right directory
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The zip should be in cache, let me find the right directory
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dottat beat me to it. Already shared.
Please send pics of the new themes.
Edit: Nevermind. I just updated my phone. Looks like the 5 new themes are for the dot matrix case. I thought the new themes were for Sense. The 4 themes they have are nice, but more customization would be appreciated.
T-mobile 930t here
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Feels snappy and fixed dropped frames in video
Hoping the android is drain is helped
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T-mobile 930t here
Feels snappy and fixed dropped frames in video
Hoping the android is drain is helped
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Is battery lifetime better with this update?
mrklintscher said:
Is battery lifetime better with this update?
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Not sure just did it
For super hot when during the process of updating etc
yup noticed the increase in temperature definitely
slymester123 said:
yup noticed the increase in temperature definitely
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ok ... the lifetime was really bad!
Saw this thread and promptly pulled down the update. Won't know about improvements to battery for a few days. But 5 hours since update and androis OS is still # 1, and android system is # 3.
I have the french version who is the first to receive updates but what version are these ???
Still never got an update, W8 on Fido (Rogers). The only downside to a non-Nexus device - carrier updates grrrrr.
xxaarraa said:
Saw this thread and promptly pulled down the update. Won't know about improvements to battery for a few days. But 5 hours since update and androis OS is still # 1, and android system is # 3.
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Haven't used it much but here's mine
PunishedSnake said:
Haven't used it much but here's mine
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Been running the latest update since this morning.
How funny. I was in Best Buy on Saturday and visited the Samsung Kiosk. I had issues with my multi-window randomly popping up without pressing it. Anyways, I took it in and got them to reflash the device. Didn't notice till now but I got the update on that day, which solved my problems that I have been having since I got the device.
Can't wait until VZW pushes this out 6 months from now.
when does AT&T usually push anything? It's already April and I still haven't received the March security update.
dclutter1 said:
Can't wait until VZW pushes this out 6 months from now.
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rogerchew said:
when does AT&T usually push anything? It's already April and I still haven't received the March security update.
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LOL their coverage isn't great once you leave the big city, but man I love t-mobile. They do try hard.
I was in two different countries this year and my phone worked, all included in plan.
xxaarraa said:
LOL their coverage isn't great once you leave the big city, but man I love t-mobile. They do try hard.
I was in two different countries this year and my phone worked, all included in plan.
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Oh for sure. I wish they had a better presence where I'm at. As many problems as VZW has, their coverage can't really be beat. At least not in my experiences.
I take jabs at them from time to time but, the, I don't have any major complaints.
rogerchew said:
when does AT&T usually push anything? It's already April and I still haven't received the March security update.
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Same here. AT&T in incompetent if nothing else.
Look at android system
how can i disable automatic download on tmobile? i have it set to manual download only, but when i connect to wifi it starts downloading it. i don't want to update anything in case future root will be discovered. can i delete the update file somehow?
konoplya said:
how can i disable automatic download on tmobile? i have it set to manual download only, but when i connect to wifi it starts downloading it. i don't want to update anything in case future root will be discovered. can i delete the update file somehow?
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So you don't want to update to a better performing phone, in hopes of rooting to get a better performing phone minus features. You may miss out and continue waiting until the s8. Just saying you should just try enjoying the phone.
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I can confirm after almost a full 2nd day of use that this update does wonders for standby. My phone came off charger this morning at 8 AM, its not 4 PM and I am at 87% battery remaining. SOT only 23 minutes, some voice calls, some emails. But standby is outstanding and noticeably improved since the PC8 update.