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isn't ram on ns4g 512mb? mine is showing at 321mb after flashing miui 1.9.2..
i have flashed other roms as well but didn't fix.. is there a fix for this matter?
DKJae said:
isn't ram on ns4g 512mb? mine is showing at 321mb after flashing miui 1.9.2..
i have flashed other roms as well but didn't fix.. is there a fix for this matter?
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Nexus S is at 512mb ram, I believe.
Its 512. But some of the ram is being used by the system, that's why it doesn't show
tailsthecat3 said:
Nexus S is at 512mb ram, I believe.
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did u check urs? is it the same as mine?
Emhalwis said:
Its 512. But some of the ram is being used by the system, that's why it doesn't show
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hmm.. Evo has 512mb too and it never went under 150mb of free ram for me with MIUI.. can u check ur ram size?
DKJae said:
hmm.. Evo has 512mb too and it never went under 150mb of free ram for me with MIUI.. can u check ur ram size?
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Mine shows about 180-210 after I flash miui on stock its abt 230
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The missing ram is not missing, its allocated to graphics and system as far as I know.
CONTACTMC said:
The missing ram is not missing, its allocated to graphics and system as far as I know.
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Correct and to the Android framework
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Dear All,
i have one question. that we have ROM: 512 Mb and RAM 256Mb
when we install ROM its goes where? in ROM or in RAM..?
It goes into ROM. RAM - Random Access Memory. When apps run, they use RAM.
What's the difference between ROM and the internal memory??
ffcloud2000 said:
What's the difference between ROM and the internal memory??
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In names?
Well, actually there is no differences in that case. ROM in
g3 is a internal memory. But that 512 mb is used for system, kernel, cache and also for your apps.
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cop1976 said:
In names?
Well, actually there is no differences in that case. ROM in
g3 is a internal memory. But that 512 mb is used for system, kernel, cache and also for your apps.
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Then what the purpose of RAM 256mb
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hadi_xman said:
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Then what the purpose of RAM 256mb
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RAM is memory the system has access to .. FAST memory to load/run apps etc.. whereas ROM is sorta like the phones harddrive
R u a kid? u dnt knw simple stuff almost all kids now-a-days know..
Not really some people may not know what it is.
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Ram: Random access memory.
All apps shift to this when the are running. This is used to store temporary data and other things...
ROM: sorta like your PC's hd.... stores everything!
had i not been a new user.. i would have not answered this... please hit thanks!!! i wanna unlock the features
ROM is internal memory. RAM is memory available for temporary that apps need while they are processed..
Consider reading ABOUT ROM! and ABOUT RAM!
Google is great!
Alex664 said:
R u a kid? u dnt knw simple stuff almost all kids now-a-days know..
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never tick someone off for being a kid if your spelling and grammar is in the range of a 6 year old.....
Hell, i dont know exactly how it all works, but then, maybe i'm to old!
Hey Charge users!
I'm a first time poster long time lurker. I've had this Charge since June 2011 and have flashed many roms from Kejar31's Gummycharged thru Dwitherell's Tweaked (currently on 1.5) and I've always seemed to be limited by the 512MB internal ram which shows ~220/380MB taken after the rom boots depending on what rom you're using. As you add apps this memory gets eaten up and when you forget to push to sd, the phone starts lagging.
People run the script with SQlite 3, run V6 supercharger memory management, clear cache and dalvik cache, etc.
I've heard of a "swapper" before upon first learning android terms but have never seen it discussed thoroughly on the charge threads. I got a class 10 samsung sdhc card and replaced my stock class 4 card, and have allocated 1.5 GB for space on the sdhc card to act as extra RAM and really notice the difference in multitasking. Now my Boat Browser retains the web pages I was viewing in other tabs even after I've gone back to the home screen (doesn't have to reload).
Requirements: Rooted, have a sdhc card that will read faster than 6MB/s (according to the dev), and be running a compatible kernel (im using pbj 0130).
Things I've noticed in my 2 days of usage so far:
- phone faster, responsive
- can handle multitasking much better
- can handle heavy apps like vlingo
- negligible effect on battery life thus far, although if you leave too many things open I can imagine it killing battery life
- have not tried but dev says in description that you can allocate up to 2.5GB of extra ram
In Play Store search: "swapit ram expander"
Hope this helps others out! I know the app is expensive, and I'm in no way related to or even know the dev. Just thought this would ease a lot of frustration on the charge threads and keep ppl from jumping ship for a while! Please post back if you try this with a stock class 4 sdhc to give feedback for others.
Thanks for reading!
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PBJ has swap capability built in...you just have to enable it. However, performance is always going to suffer, whether you notice it or not. For me, the performance difference is negligible until I try to play music, then it's bad....skipping/stuttering and the like, and I don't care how fast you SD card is, its going to be hard to avoid that.
Our RAM is really only a limitation for very heavy multitasking, and I haven't run into a scenario where I actually thought I needed more.
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Would the constant writing have the potential to shorten your sd card life?
BleedsOrangeandBlue said:
Would the constant writing have the potential to shorten your sd card life?
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Are you going to keep this phone past 2020? Modern SD cards have the longevity to run through millions of full erase and writes.
By the way, is there any free equivalent to this?
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kvswim said:
Are you going to keep this phone past 2020? Modern SD cards have the longevity to run through millions of full erase and writes.
By the way, is there any free equivalent to this?
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In shirke above post he said pbj has it. You just have to enable it.
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jager420 said:
In shirke above post he said pbj has it. You just have to enable it.
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Any "easy" way to do it?
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kvswim said:
Any "easy" way to do it?
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An initd script should be able to right?
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kvswim said:
Are you going to keep this phone past 2020? Modern SD cards have the longevity to run through millions of full erase and writes.
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So it would exponentially shorten it, but even the exponentially shortened life is probably not going to matter because its such a long time period....got it.
Thanks
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Any "easy" way to do it?
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How is making the file /data/local/useswap hard?
Code:
adb shell touch /data/local/useswap
adb reboot
imnuts said:
How is making the file /data/local/useswap hard?
Code:
adb shell touch /data/local/useswap
adb reboot
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He didn't say it was hard... he just asked if there was an easy way because he didn't know what all the answer entailed.
imnuts said:
How is making the file /data/local/useswap hard?
Code:
adb shell touch /data/local/useswap
adb reboot
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Derp. I think I'll just leave it alone. I don't have many problems.
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how to use the app > ram-expander
helpppPPP-- please , in detail
galaxy note n7000 jb leak rooted , philz kernel<IS MY KERNEL SUPPORTED(IF Not any sugg.)>
32 gb class 10 sd card
Getting Problem
I m getting problem while creating swap file.I t just create it and then kill it by itself and then restart making swap file.
After boot doesnt work
I created 1 GB swap file in my sd card and it showed total ram 1.6 gb. I could see Swapit icon running in status bar but once i boot the phone it doesnt read swap file automatically spite being autorun is selected. Even swapit icon also doesnt appear in notification bar. I hace swap file intact in my sd card. Any solution for it?
Help!
Right now m using siyah kernel on my s2 with android 4.4.2 kitkat! I just wanna know that the app states perfect kernel! What does that mean? Can you suggest which kernel is perfect? And secondly i also experienced boot loop problems? Can you tell how to fix it?
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lenith said:
I created 1 GB swap file in my sd card and it showed total ram 1.6 gb. I could see Swapit icon running in status bar but once i boot the phone it doesnt read swap file automatically spite being autorun is selected. Even swapit icon also doesnt appear in notification bar. I hace swap file intact in my sd card. Any solution for it?
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Can you state which device u r using and its android version and kernel name?
Mehul mehta said:
Right now m using siyah kernel on my s2 with android 4.4.2 kitkat! I just wanna know that the app states perfect kernel! What does that mean? Can you suggest which kernel is perfect? And secondly i also experienced boot loop problems? Can you tell how to fix it?
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Can you state which device u r using and its android version and kernel name?
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I'm using Canvas 2 with 4.2.2 ROM and BindassBoost 2.5 Kernel
razor1395 said:
how to use the app > ram-expander
helpppPPP-- please , in detail
galaxy note n7000 jb leak rooted , philz kernel<IS MY KERNEL SUPPORTED(IF Not any sugg.)>
32 gb class 10 sd card
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philz kernel doesnt support for RAM expander.
Recently i hv tried this on my hh (AryaMod V7 N7000)
Hey guys. My phone is using too much ram lately. I have zram and SD cache enabled but my available ram dips to 81mb or even 60. I do clear up my recent apps but still have almost no ram. And usually I only have Nova Launcher, Chrome, facebook and music running.
I have faux kernel, 3.33 firmware and ViperS 1.10
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What version of faux kernel do you have? And was it installed with Yank555 Aroma?
Some people had complained about it, but the reason was the LMK values - the numbers by which the android OS decides to kill applications when the system is low on memory.
Also, do you have zram enabled? Perhaps hard deep as well?
All these settings could affect the RAM..
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Its 008b10 I believe, and yeah it was with aroma
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Kazireh said:
Its 008b10 I believe, and yeah it was with aroma
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try ditching Chrome for a different browser, uses up a ton of RAM. Chrome with Sense really bogs down the phone
Free RAM is wasted RAM in linux
chrisund123 said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM in linux
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Seriously?¿ If all the ram is gone then it's a serious problem. It sound like it is dipping low enough to cause serious lag. I say try Sebastian
chrisund123 said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM in linux
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I think the same as you !
Linux is managing the ram itself, let it do it, don't use any app killer
Kazireh said:
Its 008b10 I believe, and yeah it was with aroma
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There were issues Yank fixed in more recent versions.
I suggest you get a newer one like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30269909&postcount=8486
Also, do you enable hard swap? Zram?
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chrisund123 said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM in linux
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Linux utilizes free ram for buffers and file system cache etc.
I wouldn't call it a waste.
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I tried b12 but I still get the ram issue. I don't enable hard swap, only zram
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Maybe zram is causing that try disabling it and report back..
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jimmy.caille said:
I think the same as you !
Linux is managing the ram itself, let it do it, don't use any app killer
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+1
Linux manages Memory very well. It, on most systems, tries to be almost 100% full Cache, DBC, ...... It's different to Windoze, etc. Different paradime.
That said I have used ATK to see what's been started BUT DO NOT use to to automatically kill stuff. Most things will re-start and you'll end up using more juice from the battery. If there are apps running that you don't use delete the buggers.
I turned zram off in aroma and now my phone won't boot
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Kazireh said:
I tried b12 but I still get the ram issue. I don't enable hard swap, only zram
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Could you please post the output of the 'free' command from a terminal?
Also, did you flash faux's kernel over another kernel by chance? If so, there might be some previous kernel leftovers which gets in the way. See what files there are in the /system/etc/init.d directory, and post it in here.
One last question, did you install b12 using the aroma installer?
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Yeah it was with aroma. I installed it over bricked 1.4. But I flashed Sebastian earlier today and when I flash b12 again I get stuck at the splash screen so I can't provide you the log.
And also, with faux it just shows 578 mb of ram in task manager but with seb of shows 584
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Raven2k said:
There were issues Yank fixed in more recent versions.
I suggest you get a newer one like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30269909&postcount=8486
Also, do you enable hard swap? Zram?
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Linux utilizes free ram for buffers and file system cache etc.
I wouldn't call it a waste.
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If Linux is utilizing the ram, then its not free. Its being effectively used.
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Have you wiped correctly before flashing the kernel ? Can you boot to recovery,hboot? If so have you made an backup ? Waiting for your input sir and well go from there..
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shahkam said:
Have you wiped correctly before flashing the kernel ? Can you boot to recovery,hboot? If so have you made an backup ? Waiting for your input sir and well go from there..
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Sorry I meant to say that faux's kernel wont boot, like it wont show the boot animation since after the splash screen goes away the screen is balck and it goes to the splash screen together in a infinite loop. This all started after i flashed it over sebs kernel earlier, so I'll get a fresh install of my system with bricked and flash faux again. My phone is perfectly fine. Ill report back.
Installed Faux again and it booted this time, still have the same memory problem
Kazireh said:
Sorry I meant to say that faux's kernel wont boot, like it wont show the boot animation since after the splash screen goes away the screen is balck and it goes to the splash screen together in a infinite loop. This all started after i flashed it over sebs kernel earlier, so I'll get a fresh install of my system with bricked and flash faux again. My phone is perfectly fine. Ill report back.
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Alright and one other thing i tend to swype my apps i don't need but when i open up my task killer app (advancev task killer ) it doesn't update the ram so my guess is maybe it isn't freeing ram really..
And it happen to me once ive got down to 85mb used task killer and was running again all smooth..
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I own a Lenovo S920. It has 4 GB of total internal memory. 2 GB as phone memory and 2 GB as the built in memory. But for some reason the internal phone memory is more occupied than it should be. I have attached the picture. What happened to the marked space?
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Rini94 said:
I own a Lenovo S920. It has 4 GB of total internal memory. 2 GB as phone memory and 2 GB as the built in memory. But for some reason the internal phone memory is more occupied than it should be. I have attached the picture. What happened to the marked space?
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so your saying that it used to have 4gigs of internal memory? or it says that it has 4 gigs of internal memory? my bad if im not asking the right question.
I was victim of same problem but not now here I how you what to do
First root your device then download titanium backup. Launch it and select app you use most and swipe to special features and select on convert to system app now your apps will be stored in system rom
Do It with multiple apps
And at last click on thanks of it helped
Pm me if you want to know in detail
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Trozzul said:
so your saying that it used to have 4gigs of internal memory? or it says that it has 4 gigs of internal memory? my bad if im not asking the right question.
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It's just that I don't know what's occupying most of the 2 GB memory. It's definitely not the apps.
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prashantdrew said:
I was victim of same problem but not now here I how you what to do
First root your device then download titanium backup. Launch it and select app you use most and swipe to special features and select on convert to system app now your apps will be stored in system rom
Do It with multiple apps
And at last click on thanks of it helped
Pm me if you want to know in detail
Sent from my Andi 3.5KKe+
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But what is it that's actually occupying the space? Is there no way to do it without rooting? I had some problems with my last phone after rooting it. It was an HTC explorer.
And I used an app to view the actual internal memory. It says the total internal phone memory is 1008 mb. Where's the rest of the 1 GB??
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Rini94 said:
But what is it that's actually occupying the space? Is there no way to do it without rooting? I had some problems with my last phone after rooting it. It was an HTC explorer.
And I used an app to view the actual internal memory. It says the total internal phone memory is 1008 mb. Where's the rest of the 1 GB??
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i think this is the best way to answer your question, There has to be a place for the operating system to go, some phones have two internal storages which one is X amount of gigs to store the Operating system and System apps, while the other is free user space, so pretty much if yours comes with 4gigs of internal storage, its dummed down to around 3gb - 3.4gb and around 1-2gb of the operating system (this includes system apps and bloatware) thats what is taking up your space, thats why most people flash roms because you get tons more storage since nobody wants the bloatware.
Trozzul said:
i think this is the best way to answer your question, There has to be a place for the operating system to go, some phones have two internal storages which one is X amount of gigs to store the Operating system and System apps, while the other is free user space, so pretty much if yours comes with 4gigs of internal storage, its dummed down to around 3gb - 3.4gb and around 1-2gb of the operating system (this includes system apps and bloatware) thats what is taking up your space, thats why most people flash roms because you get tons more storage since nobody wants the bloatware.
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But isn't that a little too much space for operating system?
So what am I supposed to do now? Root it and remove bloatware? Don't want to install a new ROM. I like the stock ROM.
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Rini94 said:
But isn't that a little too much space for operating system?
So what am I supposed to do now? Root it and remove bloatware? Don't want to install a new ROM. I like the stock ROM.
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It'd just the way OEMs operating system is, removing the bloat might not give you much space but its worth a shot. Custom Roms should give you a little more space. They should take up around 500mb if I recall correctly. I could be wrong but they are ment to give you more space.
Trozzul said:
It'd just the way OEMs operating system is, removing the bloat might not give you much space but its worth a shot. Custom Roms should give you a little more space. They should take up around 500mb if I recall correctly. I could be wrong but they are ment to give you more space.
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Okay thanks! Looks like custom ROM is the way to go.
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