What different functions and/or permissions does a system app get over a user app? Say I converted my gmail app to a user app via Titanium, backup, does anything change? This is my first time ever posting, so please bear with me as I get used to using a forum for the first time ever in my life. Thanks!
If you have updated Gmail via the playstore, I think it is already in your user apps. You shouldn't need to move an app at all unless that app needs to be there (like some keyboards or apps that modify the system). Most apps already in system will break if you move them, I believe too.
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I have only 3 system apps at the moment, I either uninstalled them or converted them to user apps. One app in particular I read in the play store description, Notification toggle, says as a system app it gains more functionality than a user app. I have emailed the developer and hope to gear from him soon but I figured I might look elsewhere for an answer in the meantime.
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Anyone?
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Here, this should might be what you're looking for.
http://ricston.com/blog/explaining-behavior-android-application-system-apps-nonsystem-apps/
Hope it helps.
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wardawgmalvicious said:
What different functions and/or permissions does a system app get over a user app? Say I converted my gmail app to a user app via Titaniu, backup, does anything change? This is my first time ever posting, so please bear with me as I get used to using a forum for the first time ever in my life. Thanks!
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I only converted the superSU app as a system app from within the app itself, no need to convert other files imo.
I have also done that, but in the end I just decided to leave it as a user app. It didn't always convert to a user app depending on the device, and also I know sometimes it gets lost and just reverts back to a user app anyways.
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System apps get stored in /system partition. User apps in /data partition. System partition is read only so system Apks cannot be uninstalled except by mounting rw. Finally updates for system apps land in /data.
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It won't let me connect to servers, but thanks to everyone and their help.
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helioXverse said:
Here, this should might be what you're looking for.
http://ricston.com/blog/explaining-behavior-android-application-system-apps-nonsystem-apps/
Hope it helps.
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Very helpful, thank you! Just what I was looking for.
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System apps get stored in /system partition. User apps in /data partition. System partition is read only so system Apks cannot be uninstalled except by mounting rw. Finally updates for system apps land in /data.
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I appreciate that, so it seems to me system apps get no more functions or advantages over user apps. Am I correct?
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Android apps will get no more permissions then what is coded in the app by the dev and accepted by user at time of installation. There is no difference in permissions for user and system apps. System apps come installed so you don't have any choice.
Note that these permissions pertain to android specific permissions like internet connectivity etc. Unix su permissions are different and both user and system apps can request superuser privileges.
So the bottom line is no difference in functionality. Only one diff system apps will survive factory reset.
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Android apps will get no more permissions then what is coded in the app by the dev and accepted by user at time of installation. There is no difference in permissions for user and system apps. System apps come installed so you don't have any choice.
Note that these permissions pertain to android specific permissions like internet connectivity etc. Unix su permissions are different and both user and system apps can request superuser privileges.
So the bottom line is no difference in functionality. Only one diff system apps will survive factory reset.
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I appreciate your response, a wealth of knowledge. Thank you very much!
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I've read about updates needing the system applications installed to work. I have a few questions:
Do all apps have to be installed (including games)?
I've uninstalled some apps to download again to install them as user apps to move to my SD card. Do I need to re-install these back to system apps? Or is the fact they're installed good enough?
Will a factory reset put everything back the way it should be so I can just do that?
Finally, why do you have to have it the way it was to enable updates?
Thanks in advance. I've read quite a few posts about having to have system apps installed, but not why or which ones.
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Posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370292 with no luck (replies).
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Please. Does anybody know? I want to customise my phone but don't know how far to go.
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Hi, dear friends!
I have a tuned system on my Skyrocket under GingerBread (cultivated for a long time on others phones and moved phone-to-phone with Titanium).
If I will install a custom ICS rom, will I have a possibility to move my apps from GB with a Titanium too?
Thank You!
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Yes, your apps will move with you (their functionality too) from GB to ICS using TBu. Some of your apps may have ICS specific versions which ought to update automatically through the play store.
Is that what you were getting at?
*edit, make sure to save your backup remotely or on your SD card!!!
And what about some system options like stored passwords or wi-fi spot and blabla?
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And what about some system options like stored passwords or wi-fi spot and blabla?
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you cant transfer them.just take some time and add your wifi spots and passwords again on ics
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And what about some system options like stored passwords or wi-fi spot and blabla?
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Do not restore system settings or system data across OS versions. It can be done, but is a lot of trouble.
Hi, actually have more than 10 gb free on sdcard, but today while downloading chaos rings, when it starts to install it stops and says " error not enoughe disc space", that isn't true.
someone knows how to fix this?
Not sure why it would do that unless its looking to install on a certin partition that is different then this note. For that kind of money the develpper should come to your house and install it for you. Send develper a emaol with a log of your device specs and screen shot of error
Good luck
The problem is that the same app installed well one week ago, I don't think it's an app related problem, is the playstore
Only other thing, did you get an ota update recently? I know this shouldn't affect things but sometime updates are a real pain...
Same problem
Same problem here but with a Galaxy Note II. I installed the app last week, then unistalled it cause didn't work with root. But now the 1.1 version works with rooted devices but I get the "Not enought space" problem.
If your rooted there's a easy fix. This happens to me when a app doesn't uninstall correctly. Using a root file browser go to /data/app find the apk and delete it.
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My /data folder is empty ^^ it's the only app that acts like this
What app are you using
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No I mean the app I'm trying to install, Chaos Rings. I also tried to uninstall some apps but always the same problem, it's driving my crazy ^^
No I mean what app are you using to access the data folder
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Ok solved! thanks to you. I used root browser, because root expl works for me sometimes and sometimes doesnt start, but now it started and accessed to data/app and deleted a file of the game, now it installed.
Thanks again man
Your welcome
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Your welcome
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Is there another way? Because i checked the folder but there is not file from chaos rings there.
When I uninstall apps and clear data, are there any leftovers from the apps, i.e in windows there are registry leftovers, data, etc.
I have seen that the folders on the sd card remain, but I'm asking about the phone memory.
If yes, where are they stored and is there any way to remove them?
Try this app. It will assist you in finding leftovers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063
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So as there is an app for this, i guess the answer is "yes"
As this app started with Android 1.6 and now is for 2.1 and newer there is still a question left:
Does ICS or JB also need this??
The app was just updated for JB 4.2 so I'm guessing yes but I'm still on GB so idk what goodies are available when using the app on later versions
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Hi pple say" WTF there is none "! Well terminal emulator, voice dialing etc, and others I don't want our are covered by apps that do other stuff too, so it's bloat to me but I can't wipe it, just freeze. Anyway to remove the junk?
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Search the play store for system app remover
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Just go to /system/appsm and remove the apks or install titanium backup by which you can remove system apps
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Root uninstall
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsapp.android.pfuninstall
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another alternative (which is what I do) is write a flashable zip with an updater-script that deletes the things you do not want.
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another alternative (which is what I do) is write a flashable zip with an updater-script that deletes the things you do not want.
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I'll try it. I've got the normal root system app removers but they don't touch cm
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I'll try it. I've got the normal root system app removers but they don't touch cm
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Freezing is the best option in this case. That way, you don't need to do it every time you update the ROM.
Second best is zip script.
Every ROM has bloatware. Even stock Google has crap nobody wants.
These things take a minuscule amount of space.... Freezing is the best way. Titanium backup.
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Have you tried cm based vanir osp it comes with remove sys apps option in menu great rom. I have try most ROMs vanir heavy metal rocks!!!
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I think someone else mentioned TiBU allows you to convert/freeze/delete system apps.