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[htc] unlocking utility

I have been able to create a method of unlocking ANY unlockable hboot, on any device (as far as i can tell)
The method works on S-on, stock recovery devices. As of right now im linking to a specific device, however, if you only use the unlock youll be fine. I need testers from other HTC devices.
My first thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24370319#post24370319
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I can confirm this works for MetroPCS Widfire S A510c hboot 1.10.0000. It unlocked my bootloader just fine. No steps required from HTCDev.
Many thanks Simon! Keep up the great work.

Great news!
But it's not full S-OFF, is it?

Not yet. This sets you up for it. Soon an soff will be out the developers of it need kernel help and I'm tryin to help them get it working
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simonsimons34 said:
Not yet. This sets you up for it. Soon an soff will be out the developers of it need kernel help and I'm tryin to help them get it working
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..well when s-off is out? Really dont unerstand for what is your "unlocking utility" then?

This utility allows you to unlock your bootloader without HTCDev, thus saving your warranty
Simon is working on getting universal S-OFF with some other devs. Will take a few, but he'll get it.

bobdamnit said:
This utility allows you to unlock your bootloader without HTCDev, thus saving your warranty
Simon is working on getting universal S-OFF with some other devs. Will take a few, but he'll get it.
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with the option 1 of his tool "Bootloader Unlock CDMA ONLY" ??

That I'm not too sure about. I was told it was universal but needed testing. Simon and I have confirmed it working on several CDMA HTC Wildfire S's. (The only HTC phones we have access to, currently.)
I would say wait for Simon to confirm it should work on GSM HTC phones. I only helped with the code, so I don't know much about the mechanics of the utility.
Sorry.

according the .bat file all the stuff seems to be specific to the wildfire. So I don't undersand why simon is asking us to test it on other devices ?

geek78 said:
according the .bat file all the stuff seems to be specific to the wildfire. So I don't undersand why simon is asking us to test it on other devices ?
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Because this method should work on ANY HTC phone with ANY hboot. We are asking you to try it so it can be confirmed. (Confirmed on Marvelc only so far.)
If you know batch, you can absolutely modify it to your liking.
Also, if you had read the original post:
Simonsimon34 said:
As of right now im linking to a specific device, however, if you only use the unlock youll be fine. I need testers from other HTC devices.
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If you read the .bat file you can see that this can't work on another device

geek78 said:
If you read the .bat file you can see that this can't work on another device
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S-OFF, no. That onlly works on CDMA Widlfire S. Unlock, yes. That should work on ANY HTC device, no matter what the batch file is calling. (It will still perform as it is supposed to.)
I helped write the batch file dude.

bobdamnit said:
S-OFF, no. That onlly works on CDMA Widlfire S. Unlock, yes. That should work on ANY HTC device, no matter what the batch file is calling. (It will still perform as it is supposed to.)
I helped write the batch file dude.
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...can you attach the batch file here?

j4n87 said:
...can you attach the batch file here?
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No I cannot. Since I am not claiming to be the author (only helped him a bit), I will not post their work. If Simon wants to release it, I'm sure he will.
I will however, give you a hint. Download the exe and run it. Leave it open and check your temp files. The batch file is in there somewhere.
Also, guys, give it a shot. At best, it works. At worst, it doesnt, and you still have a locked bootloader.

GUYS I will tell you how it works soon heck ill make its own release if you guys arnt suited with it. I just need to know if option one works. It uses a temp root pulls your misc img and modifys YOUR misc. This then flashes removes temp root and you have an unlocked bootloader. Just make sure your bootloader is up to date. There is nothing specific in the unlock
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GUYS I will tell you how it works soon heck ill make its own release if you guys arnt suited with it. I just need to know if option one works. It uses a temp root pulls your misc img and modifys YOUR misc. This then flashes removes temp root and you have an unlocked bootloader. Just make sure your bootloader is up to date. There is nothing specific in the unlock
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...well tried it on my HTC One X. no joy.
At least its says still "Locked" in bootloader.

Can you make sure no errors were thrown when temp rooting ? Or errors at all. Sometimes it tries to push too soon. Also can you try downgradeing to the lowest possible
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simonsimons34 said:
Can you make sure no errors were thrown when temp rooting ? Or errors at all. Sometimes it tries to push too soon. Also can you try downgradeing to the lowest possible
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..the HTC One is even not officially out in most countrys.
Theres nothing to downgrade.

Oh its because of the way I temp root. They must of patched it.
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[Q] no bootloader, s-off, root under android 4.1.1

Hello,
I bought me a used evo shift 4g with android 4.1.1. Is there a possibility, to get s-off or root? I can't even get into bootloader (volume down and power). I already tried different methods, but nothing seems to work. Can anybody help me please?

derkleinebroicher said:
Hello,
I bought me a used evo shift 4g with android 4.1.1. Is there a possibility, to get s-off or root? I can't even get into bootloader (volume down and power). I already tried different methods, but nothing seems to work. Can anybody help me please?
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Yes you can get s-off, look in the development section, there is a one click root. Since you have 4.1 on there I am guessing you are S-ON rooted?

derkleinebroicher said:
Hello,
I bought me a used evo shift 4g with android 4.1.1. Is there a possibility, to get s-off or root? I can't even get into bootloader (volume down and power). I already tried different methods, but nothing seems to work. Can anybody help me please?
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If you can't get into bootloader, try enabling usb debugging ( Settings > Development), then connect your phone to your computer and download the Android Debug Bridge (ADB) from HERE
Open a command window in the place where you extracted the adb files and type "adb devices"
If your device is not recognized, download and install the drivers from HERE
After that, try "adb devices" again, if something like "HT8472JW76 device" shows up, then that's good
Now type "adb reboot-bootloader" and see if that gets you into bootloader
This is kind of a lot of work, but it definitely helps in the long run. Also, I would not run my utility until you have downgraded to 2.2 by running an RUU (all of them can be found HERE, 2.2 is the one that has the number "1.17.651") or by flashing a PG06IMG.zip through bootloader. The utility checks what version you are using, and if its anything other than 2.2 or 2.3.4 it throws an error, so just downgrade to 2.2 directly and then use the utility.
If you have any questions or if anything does not make sense, don't be afraid to ask
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bilgerryan said:
Yes you can get s-off, look in the development section, there is a one click root. Since you have 4.1 on there I am guessing you are S-ON rooted?
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Nevr heard about s-on rooted - but i'm no expert. What I can say is, that i have no super-user rights.

CNexus said:
If you can't get into bootloader, try enabling usb debugging ( Settings > Development), then connect your phone to your computer and download the Android Debug Bridge (ADB) from HERE
Open a command window in the place where you extracted the adb files and type "adb devices"
If your device is not recognized, download and install the drivers from HERE
After that, try "adb devices" again, if something like "HT8472JW76 device" shows up, then that's good
Now type "adb reboot-bootloader" and see if that gets you into bootloader
This is kind of a lot of work, but it definitely helps in the long run. Also, I would not run my utility until you have downgraded to 2.2 by running an RUU (all of them can be found HERE, 2.2 is the one that has the number "1.17.651") or by flashing a PG06IMG.zip through bootloader. The utility checks what version you are using, and if its anything other than 2.2 or 2.3.4 it throws an error, so just downgrade to 2.2 directly and then use the utility.
If you have any questions or if anything does not make sense, don't be afraid to ask
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OK! Thanks a lot. I will tell you, if I was sussesful.

derkleinebroicher said:
Nevr heard about s-on rooted - but i'm no expert. What I can say is, that i have no super-user rights.
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Do you have superuser installed? Or ROM Manager? You're problem is strange. Check out ROM Manager after you install superuser and see if it will let you install a recovery... I have never had S-On root I just know it's out there and you have to have some kind of root because you are not on stock. I am S-Off and most of the people on here are, so root that baby and get to flashing.

bilgerryan said:
Do you have superuser installed? Or ROM Manager? You're problem is strange. Check out ROM Manager after you install superuser and see if it will let you install a recovery... I have never had S-On root I just know it's out there and you have to have some kind of root because you are not on stock. I am S-Off and most of the people on here are, so root that baby and get to flashing.
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well, I know these things from my wildfire. I have installed superuser and also ROM manager but can'tget superuser permissions or install a recovery. But when I start the phone, there is not the original HTC-screen, but a custom-screen. So I agree with you, that I am not on stock - some kind of very strange. It seems to me, that all the root-tools only work with 2.3.x, so if i could downgrade, that might help as well.

derkleinebroicher said:
well, I know these things from my wildfire. I have installed superuser and also ROM manager but can'tget superuser permissions or install a recovery. But when I start the phone, there is not the original HTC-screen, but a custom-screen. So I agree with you, that I am not on stock - some kind of very strange. It seems to me, that all the root-tools only work with 2.3.x, so if i could downgrade, that might help as well.
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The shift was shipped with 2.2 and 2.3.x so if you have anything other then that it was rooted to get to where you are. How you lost root is beyond any of us. And maybe beyond the guy that sold it to you. Pull the battery and place it back in hold volume down and power, that should be a sure shot at getting to bootloader, then take a picture and post that
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He said he couldn't get to the bootloader with power and volume down

derkleinebroicher said:
well, I know these things from my wildfire. I have installed superuser and also ROM manager but can'tget superuser permissions or install a recovery. But when I start the phone, there is not the original HTC-screen, but a custom-screen. So I agree with you, that I am not on stock - some kind of very strange. It seems to me, that all the root-tools only work with 2.3.x, so if i could downgrade, that might help as well.
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Like strapped365 said, this is definitely a weird situation and I've never come across it myself. The best option would probably be to just run a 2.2 RUU and root from there. You can also check for root by downloading "root checker" from the play store, its by joeykrim (the free version will work fine)
strapped365 said:
The shift was shipped with 2.2 and 2.3.x so if you have anything other then that it was rooted to get to where you are. How you lost root is beyond any of us. And maybe beyond the guy that sold it to you. Pull the battery and place it back in hold volume down and power, that should be a sure shot at getting to bootloader, then take a picture and post that
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He had said earlier that that didn't work for him, that's why I suggested the adb route
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OK! Thanks a lot. I will tell you, if I was sussesful.
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No problem, post if any issues :good:
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If he can't get into boot loader its probably because fastboot is checked. In 2.3x its in settings/power at the bottom. I don't know about his though.

Chad The Pathfinder said:
If he can't get into boot loader its probably because fastboot is checked. In 2.3x its in settings/power at the bottom. I don't know about his though.
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Hmm, my understanding was that fastboot is only on HTC roms?
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
If he can't get into boot loader its probably because fastboot is checked. In 2.3x its in settings/power at the bottom. I don't know about his though.
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He said he was on 4.1 there are only two choices for JB before yesterday... Evervolv or deck's CM10

bilgerryan said:
He said he couldn't get to the bootloader with power and volume down
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Bootloader don't just do a houdini its there somewhere
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I was thinking broken volume button cuz I couldn't come up with anything else lol

Bootloader don't just do a houdini its there somewhere
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Hmm, thats interesting. So its not possible to delete the bootloader at all?
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It's me again. I just connected the guy, who sold me this phone. Perhaps he can help. If not, i will try the adb-method. If I get problems with that, I'll ask for help again here - i'f never tried this method. But thanks to all you guys so far for your interest and support. i'll keep you informed.
P.S. Root checker told me "no root". And because some one asked me, this is the bootscreen. there is no HTC-screen before that. ATTACH]1532658[/ATTACH]

derkleinebroicher said:
It's me again. I just connected the guy, who sold me this phone. Perhaps he can help. If not, i will try the adb-method. If I get problems with that, I'll ask for help again here - i'f never tried this method. But thanks to all you guys so far for your interest and support. i'll keep you informed.
P.S. Root checker told me "no root". And because some one asked me, this is the bootscreen. there is no HTC-screen before that. ATTACH]1532658[/ATTACH]
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No problem, keep us posted :good:
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CNexus said:
Hmm, thats interesting. So its not possible to delete the bootloader at all?
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Check what was quoted.... Did I say that? no I did not, i said it don't just disappear. And before that I said the guy that sold it to him would know what was wrong.
Now if you delete your bootloader that's on you, and if you did it and didn't tell anyone then sold said phone, you would be the only one who could help someone in that situation. After you hangout here more you will notice a redundancy of posts because 90% of rooted users don't even deserve to have a smartphone let alone a rooted one, so they never know what their talking about so we try to push the core troubleshooting methods to get them to where they need to go. It's like calling sprint what's their first step? Factory data reset to give you a level playing field, here I just told the guy how to get into bootloader if there was a fastboot checked. Also I've seen so many users get the version of Sense mixed up with the version of Android so again we fall back to the core known methods of solving a problem. I've been with the shift since release so I've seen every failed ota by HTC and every moronic thing that can be done with this phone. But no matter how I told him to get somewhere all you new guys just take over like no oldies but goodies know......btw if bootloader is missing adb reboot bootloader wouldn't work either right? So again with the redundant instructions to get the the same place
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bilgerryan said:
He said he was on 4.1 there are only two choices for JB before yesterday... Evervolv or deck's CM10
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Just forget about me....
btw, there are alot more sites then XDA that may have ROMS for the shift.

(Solved)Stuck in Bootloader/Relocked

I am currently stuck in the bootloader. To make matters worse, I relocked to RUU and am stuck at Sending with that. I am Super CID which I think is the problem. To make matters even worse, I no longer have my unlock_code.bin file.
Is there any hope for my phone? Also, the RUU process has completely wiped my phone. Thanks for any input in advance. I have searched and searched for an answer but haven't found anything useful.
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You haven't given enough information, what are you trying to do? You could just unlock your bootloader again.
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timmaaa said:
You haven't given enough information, what are you trying to do? You could just unlock your bootloader again.
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How can I unlock my bootloader without the unlock_code.bin file? Update. I reverted back to original CID CWS__001 and am going to try and run the RUU again.
I tried to s-off my wife's phone and it screwed it up somehow (rather I screwed it up). I simply wanted to take it back to stock to start fresh and now I am stuck in the bootloader with no Rom and a locked phone.
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//JavaJ said:
How can I unlock my bootloader without the unlock_code.bin file? Update. I reverted back to original CID CWS__001 and am going to try and run the RUU again.
I tried to s-off my wife's phone and it screwed it up somehow (rather I screwed it up). I simply wanted to take it back to stock to start fresh and now I am stuck in the bootloader with no Rom and a locked phone.
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You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
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timmaaa said:
You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Can I at least ruu the 3.18 now and get back to stock... That's better than bootloader I suppose. By the way, how could I have unlocked in the state I was in?
Ruu is stuck at sending for some time now.
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//JavaJ said:
timmaaa said:
You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Can I at least ruu the 3.18 now and get back to stock... That's better than bootloader I suppose. By the way, how could I have unlocked in the state I was in?
Ruu is stuck at sending for some time now.
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If you have a locked bootloader and the correct CID there should be no harm in running the RUU. The unlock process (from memory, I could be wrong) doesn't require the phone to be booted into an os, it's all taken care of while the phone is in bootloader. That's kinda irrelevant now anyway as it isn't possible anymore.
Are you using the usb cable that came with the phone? You can try using a different usb port, usually the ones on the back of the pc tower are the best.
May I ask, how exactly do you think the s-off process screwed up the phone? It either succeeds or fails, and there should be no serious repercussions from either.
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Ever since I ran the s off process I couldn't copy anything to the sd card, I.e. to flash a new Rom. I feel like an idiot for changing the cid back now. I ran the zip for s off and I waited an hour or so and it never went throufh
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//JavaJ said:
Ever since I ran the s off process I couldn't copy anything to the sd card, I.e. to flash a new Rom. I feel like an idiot for changing the cid back now. I ran the zip for s off and I waited an hour or so and it never went throufh
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It sounds to me like you might have actually done a factory reset from bootloader which corrupts the sd card. The s-off process has no ability to change the sd card. Did you have HTC drivers and adb/fastboot all installed when you tried the s-off process? That's probably why it didn't work.
The corrupted sd card might be why the RUU won't work, can you still get into TWRP recovery? If so, you can use the mount menu to mount it to your pc and format it. If not, you might seriously be in trouble. The combination of these things you've done have possibly rendered the device completely useless. If this if the case, I hope this has been a learning experience. It's really important to have a firm understanding of what you're doing (and the results and potential risks) when modifying your device. It looks like you've rushed into all this without understanding it all properly.
In any case, let me know about what I asked about above and I'll do my best to see if there's a way out of this.
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timmaaa said:
It sounds to me like you might have actually done a factory reset from bootloader which corrupts the sd card. The s-off process has no ability to change the sd card. Did you have HTC drivers and adb/fastboot all installed when you tried the s-off process? That's probably why it didn't work.
The corrupted sd card might be why the RUU won't work, can you still get into TWRP recovery? If so, you can use the mount menu to mount it to your pc and format it. If not, you might seriously be in trouble. The combination of these things you've done have possibly rendered the device completely useless. If this if the case, I hope this has been a learning experience. It's really important to have a firm understanding of what you're doing (and the results and potential risks) when modifying your device. It looks like you've rushed into all this without understanding it all properly.
In any case, let me know about what I asked about above and I'll do my best to see if there's a way out of this.
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Took your advice about the usb port. Switched it to the back and the ruu worked. Will I be able to run the root exploit again? Yes, this definitely has been a learning experience. Coupled with my lack of sleep and overall frustration I made some bad moves. Thanks for your patience and help though. Much appreciated.
And no, I could not get back into recovery after I relocked it. It would send me right back to the bootloader. Also, I did do a factory reset from the bootloader. Believe me, taking mental notes all the way here.
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Now that you have a working os, you could be able to use the exploit again to unlock the bootloader etc. Just take it slowly though, do some reading so you gain a bit of knowledge. And if you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.
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Unlocked and rooted. Again. Thanks for your help. Leary of trying to s off again though
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Very glad to see you got it all working again. S-off might seem daunting now, but it's a pretty straight forward process as long as you follow the instructions exactly.
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timmaaa said:
Very glad to see you got it all working again. S-off might seem daunting now, but it's a pretty straight forward process as long as you follow the instructions exactly.
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Yes, I have done it before, on my One X. Not quite sure what went wrong. Maybe the issue with my wife's phone was preexisting and reared it's ugly head in the process. I have been rooting and nodding phones for years. I am not a complete noob. I am experienced in java programming and have created many interesting applications for my phone. Perhaps I should take my java knowledge and automate my s off experience.
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If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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timmaaa said:
If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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Very nice found Tim.....:thumbup:
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timmaaa said:
If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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Appreciate it. I don't mind working from the command line either. Could my trouble have had anything to do with being plugged into the front of the cpu, for s off that is? Was getting stuck at sending with the flash zip command.
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//JavaJ said:
Appreciate it. I don't mind working from the command line either. Could my trouble have had anything to do with being plugged into the front of the cpu, for s off that is? Was getting stuck at sending with the flash zip command.
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Yeah that was probably it, try again using the rear port and it'll probably be fine.
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timmaaa said:
Yeah that was probably it, try again using the rear port and it'll probably be fine.
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Just wanted to let you know that I went through s off and all went well. Only thing I can think was the problem was that either there was a pre existing corruption on the phone, or the usb port I was using.
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It could have been anything. It's becoming more and more apparent that different things halt the process for different users. It makes it really difficult to troubleshoot when helping someone through the process. In the end you got it though which is great.
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S-OFF - HTC One Mini RUMRUNNER!!!

http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
http://rumrunner.us/downloads-2/

?
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INVICTUS79 said:
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It's a .bat file that s-off your one mini, I've used it myself
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Can you install paid apps on custom rom if you are s-off ?

can you please explain why do I need to s-off mine?
thx

RSchris said:
Can you install paid apps on custom rom if you are s-off ?
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I'm pretty sure you can install it in custom rom or any rom. And s-off doesn't have anything to do with that.

abzboi said:
I'm pretty sure you can install it in custom rom or any rom. And s-off doesn't have anything to do with that.
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Thank you. But today you can't install paid apps on Magio R3 and SolidRom. Magio R4 will fix the problem, according to the dev.

RSchris said:
Can you install paid apps on custom rom if you are s-off ?
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No that's a kernel issue
edimonoarfa said:
can you please explain why do I need to s-off mine?
thx
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Its a HTC security measure which stops your ability to change the system example with s-on you can't update superSU binary, can't delete system apps and can't install busy box
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CONdemmedNORmal said:
No that's a kernel issue
Its a HTC security measure which stops your ability to change the system example with s-on you can't update superSU binary, can't delete system apps and can't install busy box
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Well being able to delete system apps is a kernel thing.
S-off will allow you to flash Rom from recovery without having to fastboot kernel also allows you to write to any blk so in the future when HTC updates your firmware you won't have to go back to stock and take the ota you can flash new firmware useing fastboot. This is a blessing from the android gods. You should do it before HTC closes the exploit
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CONdemmedNORmal said:
Its a HTC security measure which stops your ability to change the system example with s-on you can't update superSU binary, can't delete system apps and can't install busy box
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Thank you
I've tried several times to s-off mine but always ended up to fail.
First, when it tried to update, it said "something stinky", i don't now if it was a success or not
Second, pouring til 8 times, ended with "wait 30 seconds, pray and boot"
Is something wrong? I think i fulfill everyting needs before

CONdemmedNORmal said:
Its a HTC security measure which stops your ability to change the system example with s-on you can't update superSU binary, can't delete system apps and can't install busy box
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That's incorrect, s-off, or security off, has nothing to do with system write protection, which is what you're referring to.
S-off gives you the ability to write low-level unsigned files to your device, such as bootloaders, splash images, etc.
The two are completely different things, and you can have one without having the other.

I'm on hboot 2.21, stock odex stock rom 4.4.2 rooted but for some reason, renove or rumrunner doesn't work for me. Rumrunner gets stuck on 8 out of 40 or something after rebooting. Renove gives me -1 or -2 error and doesn't s-off, can anyone tell me what's wrong? I've followed the instructions perfectly, even flashed the recommended rom..
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CNexus said:
That's incorrect, s-off, or security off, has nothing to do with system write protection, which is what you're referring to.
S-off gives you the ability to write low-level unsigned files to your device, such as bootloaders, splash images, etc.
The two are completely different things, and you can have one without having the other.
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Not now there has been more development no, but this was the case with the m4 to start with, you couldnt do anything to the system without it, for example deleting a system app no matter what you done to delete it would just cause the phone to instantly reboot and the app still be there, i know this personally from experience with my own phone, thats why i said this.

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Not now there has been more development no, but this was the case with the m4 to start with, you couldnt do anything to the system without it, for example deleting a system app no matter what you done to delete it would just cause the phone to instantly reboot and the app still be there, i know this personally from experience with my own phone, thats why i said this.
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Regardless, you're still not talking about the right thing. That has nothing to do with being S-ON/S-OFF. That's system write protection which is totally different.

CNexus said:
Regardless, you're still not talking about the right thing. That has nothing to do with being S-ON/S-OFF. That's system write protection which is totally different.
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yes i know its different things BUT you couldnt write or delete from the system properly without s-off when development for the m4 FIRST started look through a few other threads you'll see what im saying is true so stop going on about something you obviously havent looked into properly, just because thats not the case now or not the case for other phones DOESNT mean it wasnt before, like i said i know from personal experience, that comment was posted months ago trying to give someone else info and is now irrelevant so whats the point in even bringing it back up now?????
Edit: unless your just trying to be picky because i didnt word it to your satisfaction so ill rewrite it here for you......
to update superuser/superSU, delete system apps or do anything to modify the system s-off was required to achieve this otherwise the system would just reboot and the changes that was attempted to be made wouldnt be accepted by the system.
happy??

CONdemmedNORmal said:
yes i know its different things BUT you couldnt write or delete from the system properly without s-off when development for the m4 FIRST started look through a few other threads you'll see what im saying is true so stop going on about something you obviously havent looked into properly, just because thats not the case now or not the case for other phones DOESNT mean it wasnt before, like i said i know from personal experience, that comment was posted months ago trying to give someone else info and is now irrelevant so whats the point in even bringing it back up now?????
Edit: unless your just trying to be picky because i didnt word it to your satisfaction so ill rewrite it here for you......
to update superuser/superSU, delete system apps or do anything to modify the system s-off was required to achieve this otherwise the system would just reboot and the changes that was attempted to be made wouldnt be accepted by the system.
happy??
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Obviously yesterday was "months ago"
And I've looked into this to know what I'm talking about. System write protection is in the kernel and has absolutely nothing to do with S-OFF, no matter the device and the M4 is/was no different.

CNexus said:
Obviously yesterday was "months ago"
And I've looked into this to know what I'm talking about. System write protection is in the kernel and has absolutely nothing to do with S-OFF, no matter the device and the M4 is/was no different.
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so me and everyone else that couldn't do anything to do with system writing, no matter what kernel without s'ing-off are liers??
and by months ago i mean the comment of mine you first commented on
Edit: besides i never said s-off and s-w-p was the same thing, i mearly said that at the time s-off was required for the ability to have the ability of writing to the system as at the time there wasnt any custom kernels which could achieve this, well stock kernels anyways due to lack of the release of the source code, but i cant be bothered to respond to you anymore all its doing is spamming the thread needlessly, i know what im on about due to like i said dealing with it myself.

Ergo Proxy said:
I'm on hboot 2.21, stock odex stock rom 4.4.2 rooted but for some reason, renove or rumrunner doesn't work for me. Rumrunner gets stuck on 8 out of 40 or something after rebooting. Renove gives me -1 or -2 error and doesn't s-off, can anyone tell me what's wrong? I've followed the instructions perfectly, even flashed the recommended rom..
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I'd try firewaters universal s-off tool. If this or any other s-off tool isn't working.
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xXminiWHOOPERxX said:
I'd try firewaters universal s-off tool. If this or any other s-off tool isn't working.
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Tried, rumrunner,revone, firewater nothing. Does moonshine work?
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Get S-On back?

I S-offed my device just to notice I have a dead pixel.
Is there an RUU I can flash to get S-On back or can I just do Fastboot OEM lock?
Thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51703697&postcount=14

I too am trying to figure out how to S-On my device. Like you, I noticed a defect after the fact.
Currently there is no RUU available. However there is a thread in the android development section that contains boot, recovery and hboot image files, along with a system dump which you could technically push back onto your device to get a stock system folder.
I'm currently trying to figure out if flashing hboot.IMG is a good or bad idea, or if it will even result in S-On.
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Div033 said:
I too am trying to figure out how to S-On my device. Like you, I noticed a defect after the fact.
Currently there is no RUU available. However there is a thread in the android development section that contains boot, recovery and hboot image files, along with a system dump which you could technically push back onto your device to get a stock system folder.
I'm currently trying to figure out if flashing hboot.IMG is a good or bad idea, or if it will even result in S-On.
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exactly. i now with the RUU i can get fully stock though. i am scared to go back to the verizon store with recovery installed on my device and all the phone people are telling me to go to the store. what i need is stock recovery but i dunno.

The people at the store aren't that intelligent lol... Most don't even know how to boot to recovery in the first place...
You will be fine if you go in and show them the dead pixel. They will replace it on the spot for you.
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And look what I found...
This guy over here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710503 made a modified hboot that APPEARS as s-on so if you flash that then it will hide that fact that you are actually s-off and in the crazy chance that a vzw employee checks they will be tricked into thinking you are still s-on.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475216
this is the command for s-on
fastboot oem writesecureflag 3

Div033 said:
I too am trying to figure out how to S-On my device. Like you, I noticed a defect after the fact.
Currently there is no RUU available. However there is a thread in the android development section that contains boot, recovery and hboot image files, along with a system dump which you could technically push back onto your device to get a stock system folder.
I'm currently trying to figure out if flashing hboot.IMG is a good or bad idea, or if it will even result in S-On.
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David 617 said:
The people at the store aren't that intelligent lol... Most don't even know how to boot to recovery in the first place...
You will be fine if you go in and show them the dead pixel. They will replace it on the spot for you.
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And look what I found...
This guy over here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710503 made a modified hboot that APPEARS as s-on so if you flash that then it will hide that fact that you are actually s-off and in the crazy chance that a vzw employee checks they will be tricked into thinking you are still s-on.
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ive had bad luck with the store in my area... there is a jackass who knows about that kind of stuff... so im gonna have to go else where but im pretty sure im gonna do what your saying.

David 617 said:
The people at the store aren't that intelligent lol... Most don't even know how to boot to recovery in the first place...
You will be fine if you go in and show them the dead pixel. They will replace it on the spot for you.
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And look what I found...
This guy over here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710503 made a modified hboot that APPEARS as s-on so if you flash that then it will hide that fact that you are actually s-off and in the crazy chance that a vzw employee checks they will be tricked into thinking you are still s-on.
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YMMV - verizon stores in my area are really stubborn when replacing a phone comes into question. One even tried to tell me i was still rooted on a phone that wasn't currently. And by 'on the spot' you mean you walk out with a new phone? I've never had that happen.

ElChibo said:
ive had bad luck with the store in my area... there is a jackass who knows about that kind of stuff... so im gonna have to go else where but im pretty sure im gonna do what your saying.
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Abe21599 said:
YMMV - verizon stores in my area are really stubborn when replacing a phone comes into question. One even tried to tell me i was still rooted on a phone that wasn't currently. And by 'on the spot' you mean you walk out with a new phone? I've never had that happen.
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Wow that sucks... I guess I'm just lucky then. I always make sure to schmooze them up before I ask for anything. (Same thing on the phone. I'm always super nice to them. The service reps have the power to do anything on your account. Last week I got a $100 credit on my acct just because I asked.)
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I just exchanged the phone today without relocking. It's going back to the mfr anyway so I'm sure they'll relock it or whatever. Had no issues but the people at the store I go to are really damn cool.
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David 617 said:
Wow that sucks... I guess I'm just lucky then. I always make sure to schmooze them up before I ask for anything. (Same thing on the phone. I'm always super nice to them. The service reps have the power to do anything on your account. Last week I got a $100 credit on my acct just because I asked.)
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yeah. this guy is just a snob. like anyone who goes in there he goes into the bootloader or recovery to check if they have a custom recovery.
my friend who had a prepaid device had to freaking do that and that really pissed me off. but yeah. ill try go late in the day. i dont think he works that late.