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permroot for S-off MyTouch 4G Slide

How i got perm root on my MT4GS (does not give S-off just permroot of an S-off device)
YOU NEED TO HAVE A S-OFF device!
1)Start off with a fresh install of the TMO 1.28 ROM
2)Used temp root from MT4GSROOT.zip Thanks TeamWin for the temproot method Here is thread for orgnial files)
open MT4GSROOT\ADB (on pc)
Make sure that you have USB debugging turned on (on phone) and drivers installed to PC
Run Fre3voMT4gS.bat (from MT4GSROOT\ADB)
3)check in ternimal ((on phone) need to install from market)) and see if you have root (I got permission denied)
4)ran superonclick with Gingerbreak exploit (thanks CLShortFuse for making this tool) (on pc) - S1C thread
open MT4GSROOT and click on Superoneclick.exe
change exploit to Gingerbreak
hit root
Installed busybox when asked by S1C
Run Su test and looked on phone and Superuser asked for permission
5)Tried opening a app that uses root (root explorer) and SU FC on me
6)go to market and make sure you had latest version Installed (i had an update I needed)
7)Update binary when opening SU for the first time
Allow the SU app SU priviliages (funny I know)
8)Open a root app (root explorer again) and SU asked for permission
Test for permroot
turned off fastboot
deleted a system/app file (in this case htcfmwidget and htcfmwidge.obex) -using the r/w option in root explorer
Rebooted phone and reopened root explorer and looked for removed files and they were not there
None of the tools that I included were made by me they were made by the people I thanked. I just wrote the script for the tools to work. go to their threads and thank them.
Disclaimer I am not responsible for breaking your phone, melting it, or anything that may happen when doing this. Remember this is your choice
I have been able to use Root explorer, Titanium backup, terminal emulator and was able to remove APKs from the system folder that I do not want.

This is awesome!
So how did you get s-off? Did it ship that way?

raycaster3 said:
So how did you get s-off? Did it ship that way?
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Mine was shipped s-off ordered online
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crackeyes said:
Mine was shipped s-off ordered online
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That's awesome that we've acheived perm root already.
If you don't mind me asking, did you do the preorder process from t-mobile?
I am extremely interested in this, but I hate preorders

crackeyes said:
Mine was shipped s-off ordered online
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Killer. Mine is being shipped the 27th. I can't wait to give this a try. Now all we need is miui for this phone and we're all set! Haha
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier

raycaster3 said:
Killer. Mine is being shipped the 27th. I can't wait to gibe this a try. Now all we need is miui for this phone and we're all set! Haha
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier
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Oh no, I just realized he is probably talking about the DoubleShot.
For some reason I have a feeling that the delay for T-Mobile USA customers is due to HTC installing a S-On bootloader

poormanq45 said:
That's awesome that we've acheived perm root already.
If you don't mind me asking, did you do the preorder process from t-mobile?
I am extremely interested in this, but I hate preorders
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I didn't preorder I acquired at a meet and greet where they gave me place to get it
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Please don't ask for ETA's people would start coming in MT4GS section soon It come's with stock 2.3.4 so all we need is a custom ROM & were fine . I will be creating a TouchWiz 4.0 ROM w/Sense w/ MIUI icon's .
raycaster3 said:
Killer. Mine is being shipped the 27th. I can't wait to give this a try. Now all we need is miui for this phone and we're all set! Haha
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier
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No S-OFF on retail devices folks.
P

I cant get to get my computer to find it, is asking for the driver.... I try but I need the drivers it only appears as android phone on the management.
Update the driver comes on the original SD card, i swapped it which I didn't realized till now
Update 2: After finding the driver I still cant get root access.... anyone done it already?

waiting89 said:
I cant get to get my computer to find it, is asking for the driver.... I try but I need the drivers it only appears as android phone on the management.
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Install htc sync but make sure it is not running
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

I got it working and follow the step of rooting, but I still dont get any root access...

is it possible to extract the s-off boot-loader from a device with s-off already? My understanding of these procedures is rudimentary at best, but if my understanding is correct, the boot-loader is a specific partition on the device, if someone with an s-off device could copy that image to their computer or just a folder on their sd-card, it should be possible then to share that with others who could then write that image to their boot-loader partion using fastboot. or can you not use fastboot until s-off is achieved? i hate that i always forget these things once i have my device running the way i want it to.

shizenyasuya said:
is it possible to extract the s-off boot-loader from a device with s-off already? My understanding of these procedures is rudimentary at best, but if my understanding is correct, the boot-loader is a specific partition on the device, if someone with an s-off device could copy that image to their computer or just a folder on their sd-card, it should be possible then to share that with others who could then write that image to their boot-loader partion using fastboot. or can you not use fastboot until s-off is achieved? i hate that i always forget these things once i have my device running the way i want it to.
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The Stupid Noob wants to know...
What the heck is "S-off"??

shizenyasuya said:
is it possible to extract the s-off boot-loader from a device with s-off already? My understanding of these procedures is rudimentary at best, but if my understanding is correct, the boot-loader is a specific partition on the device, if someone with an s-off device could copy that image to their computer or just a folder on their sd-card, it should be possible then to share that with others who could then write that image to their boot-loader partion using fastboot. or can you not use fastboot until s-off is achieved? i hate that i always forget these things once i have my device running the way i want it to.
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In order to flash the s-off bootloader you would have to have a eng bootloader. to put that on you would need s-off dont you love loop 22
As for s-off it means you can flash what ever you want to your device and it will not check to see if HTC signed it and approved it for you

thanks for that works great!!!!!!!!! also mine is from a retail store same day it came out

is it possible to build a PG59IMG file and pack the S-Off hboot into there?? possibly use HexEdit to make sure the version numbers match so that the phone will think it's just a factory reset/update file??

DJAeroX26 said:
is it possible to build a PG59IMG file and pack the S-Off hboot into there?? possibly use HexEdit to make sure the version numbers match so that the phone will think it's just a factory reset/update file??
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I think just by making that one hexedit you instantly invalidate the sign on the the zip. Mainly because hashing the new file would give you a different result.
This mechanism actually prevents OTA updates from flashing if the file was changed due to (for example) corruption.
Not entirely sure but I think it's how it works.
That being said I was wondering what would happen if someone with an S-OFF hboot were to dump it and someone with S-ON would simply DD the right partition after achieving temp root.
On any normal computer that process would work. Wondering what secret HTC things happen under the hood though.

Akujin said:
I think just by making that one hexedit you instantly invalidate the sign on the the zip. Mainly because hashing the new file would give you a different result.
This mechanism actually prevents OTA updates from flashing if the file was changed due to (for example) corruption.
Not entirely sure but I think it's how it works.
That being said I was wondering what would happen if someone with an S-OFF hboot were to dump it and someone with S-ON would simply DD the right partition after achieving temp root.
On any normal computer that process would work. Wondering what secret HTC things happen under the hood though.
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There's only one way to find out.
Sent from a Western Union telegram.

Akujin said:
I think just by making that one hexedit you instantly invalidate the sign on the the zip. Mainly because hashing the new file would give you a different result.
This mechanism actually prevents OTA updates from flashing if the file was changed due to (for example) corruption.
Not entirely sure but I think it's how it works.
That being said I was wondering what would happen if someone with an S-OFF hboot were to dump it and someone with S-ON would simply DD the right partition after achieving temp root.
On any normal computer that process would work. Wondering what secret HTC things happen under the hood though.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying that. I thought it would work because last time I did a warranty exchange, I had to return to stock but I had an ENG hboot and I was scared of bricking by using a factory image, so I took the factory image zip, unpacked it, "injected" the original hboot (which I hex edited to match the version number so that it'll take it as an update) and rezipped it and named it PC10IMG.zip. and yea I have a G2 but I want this phone :]
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[Q] <Noob Alert> HTC Bootloader Unlock

If I unlock my sensation's bootloader with the official process provided by HTC, what benefits do I get?
I understand I can install any ROM I want and that my warranty would be voided, but:
1) Do I get root access?
2) Can I uninstall unwanted bloatware?
3) Will I have any ROM issues?
4) Would my phone be less secure?
Thanks for your help!

1. You get root access, but to actually use it, a separate package containing the su binary and superuser needs to be flashed.
2. Yep, using Root Explorer (the easiest option IMO).
3. The only way you'll have ROM issues is by flashing a ROM, which is always going to be risky. But if you unlock the phone, but carry on using stock HTC Sense, no you shouldn't have any problems.
4. Depends what you mean by secure tbh. If you mean more likely to get viruses etc, no. But it's less secure by the fact that the security flag (S-OFF Security-OFF) is now off. However, if you use revolutionary.io (the unofficial unlocking process) you have more commands you can use and you have greater access to the actual innards of the phone.
Plus by using revolutionary.io, HTC do not actually know you have unlocked the phone. If you ever need to send it in for warranty repair, just reverse the revolutionary.io process and your warranty will not be voided (in HTC's eyes, at least).

What is the separate package to flash for root? I've tried a bunch and none of them work.

Flash THIS package to obtain superuser and the su binary. Flash through ClockWorkMod and remember to do a nandroid backup!

oh, I can't even get CWM to install. It just says error wrong version or something like that in the fastboot screen.

almostinsane said:
oh, I can't even get CWM to install. It just says error wrong version or something like that in the fastboot screen.
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Have you tried ROM Manager? Give me the exact error fastboot/adb gives you, I *might* be able to help.

ROM manager won't work unless you are rooted. There error message is 'model ID incorrect' when trying to flash PG58IMG.zip.
same as here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1243648.html

almostinsane said:
ROM manager won't work unless you are rooted. There error message is 'model ID incorrect' when trying to flash PG58IMG.zip.
same as here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1243648.html
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Oh yeah, forgot about that
I'll do some research and get back to you
EDIT: Did you use HTCdev to unlock? Try using revolutionary.io and see if it works when/if HTCdev has already been used. Report back with your results

so also being a noob. I can get revolutionary to see my phone and show my serial but when i put in the beta key, it states that it is an invalid key. Why would this be? any help would be great.
Thanks

johnnywhojr said:
so also being a noob. I can get revolutionary to see my phone and show my serial but when i put in the beta key, it states that it is an invalid key. Why would this be? any help would be great.
Thanks
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It's case sensitive. Copy the code, then Ron the top left of the Revolutionary command window right click and paste the code.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

good thing to know

redbullcat said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that
I'll do some research and get back to you
EDIT: Did you use HTCdev to unlock? Try using revolutionary.io and see if it works when/if HTCdev has already been used. Report back with your results
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Yeah, used HTC dev.

almostinsane said:
Yeah, used HTC dev.
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Yep. Like I said, try using revolutionary.io. If it gives you an error message, take a screenshot and upload it here Anything else, report back. You could even take a video if you want!

Rhiannon224 said:
It's case sensitive. Copy the code, then Ron the top left of the Revolutionary command window right click and paste the code.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
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got it working via the copy and paste way. thanks for the assistance

HTC Desire HD update to ICS
redbullcat said:
Flash THIS package to obtain superuser and the su binary. Flash through ClockWorkMod and remember to do a nandroid backup!
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hi there i am also using HTC desire HD but want to update its software to ICS, please tell me how to achieve this goal. also looking for urdu language support in text msges in my desire HD.

mzsgoheer786 said:
hi there i am also using HTC desire HD but want to update its software to ICS, please tell me how to achieve this goal. also looking for urdu language support in text msges in my desire HD.
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it would be better to ask this in Desire HD forums
this is only for sensation/xe/4G

Phone shows unlocked but s=off

I had ended up using the all in one HTC One S root utility that was linked in the fourms. After following all the steps that where listed (While following the youtube guide) My phone when on bootloader will show ****Unlocked**** across the top but s=off any ideas on why that is? I havent quite been able to figure it out im just looking for more information so when I get home I can have at it again :/ just find it odd that given the steps and the fact I had done them all to the T im still having this issue. Any help would be great thanks for taking the time.
I assume this might be better fit for Q&A if your a mod i apologize if you could move it that would be great couldnt figure out how to delete the poist :/ "edit/delete" wont remove the post :/ sorry again

Well if you can post a photo of the boot loader screen that would help me in sorting out your issue.
Sent from my MIUI powered one s
If I helped you in any way please hit thanks!

Taco991 said:
Well if you can post a photo of the boot loader screen that would help me in sorting out your issue.
Sent from my MIUI powered one s
If I helped you in any way please hit thanks!
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No worries I would be more than happy to provide one after I get home from work

smO[pdx] said:
I had ended up using the all in one HTC One S root utility that was linked in the fourms. After following all the steps that where listed (While following the youtube guide) My phone when on bootloader will show ****Unlocked**** across the top but s=off any ideas on why that is? I havent quite been able to figure it out im just looking for more information so when I get home I can have at it again :/ just find it odd that given the steps and the fact I had done them all to the T im still having this issue. Any help would be great thanks for taking the time.
I assume this might be better fit for Q&A if your a mod i apologize if you could move it that would be great couldnt figure out how to delete the poist :/ "edit/delete" wont remove the post :/ sorry again
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Don't know what you are disappointed about. S-OFF stands for security being off. This may sound bad, but from a developer perspective, it's pretty good. If you have true S-OFF like you claim you do, you can flash ROMs, kernels, radios, etc... in a recovery with no issues at all; regardless of what hboot or custom recovery you have. Unlocked means that you can flash custom recoveries and such using fastboot, which is what you want. To sum it up, S-OFF is good; many devs are trying to get S-OFF, but NONE can figure it out. Just be happy about it.
Having this 'Unlocked' text is what you're going to get if you root/unlock the phone. No way to get around it. If you want to return to complete stock settings and re-lock, your best bet is to be on stock recovery and flash an RUU that corresponds to your network. You may also want to try 'fastboot oem lock'.

Closed Source Project said:
Having this 'Unlocked' text is what you're going to get if you root/unlock the phone. No way to get around it. If you want to return to complete stock settings and re-lock, your best bet is to be on stock recovery and flash an RUU that corresponds to your network. You may also want to try 'fastboot oem lock'.
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Actually I think since he has s-off I think he can make it say whatever he wants.

Once you get the photo up PM me so I can help you out :laugh:

Taco991 said:
Once you get the photo up PM me so I can help you out :laugh:
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So I can recall when I had the mytouch 4g the screen posted was exactly where you would go to flash the zip have they changed it since then? because I cant find the option to load a .zip rom file from :/

smO[pdx] said:
So I can recall when I had the mytouch 4g the screen posted was exactly where you would go to flash the zip have they changed it since then? because I cant find the option to load a .zip rom file from :/
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Where's the S-OFF lol? And yes I think you can do that. It's PD some numbers IMG.zip..

smO[pdx] said:
So I can recall when I had the mytouch 4g the screen posted was exactly where you would go to flash the zip have they changed it since then? because I cant find the option to load a .zip rom file from :/
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Facepalm. You do NOT have S-OFF, What the hell made you think you did. This is normal... Wow. You need to install a custom recovery to flash zips, by the way.

Hey easy on him, he was just mistaken. OP, do you need me to show you how to go back to stock?

smO[pdx] said:
I had ended up using the all in one HTC One S root utility that was linked in the fourms. After following all the steps that where listed (While following the youtube guide) My phone when on bootloader will show ****Unlocked**** across the top but s=off any ideas on why that is? I havent quite been able to figure it out im just looking for more information so when I get home I can have at it again :/ just find it odd that given the steps and the fact I had done them all to the T im still having this issue. Any help would be great thanks for taking the time.
I assume this might be better fit for Q&A if your a mod i apologize if you could move it that would be great couldnt figure out how to delete the poist :/ "edit/delete" wont remove the post :/ sorry again
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Oh sweet jesus you're lucky as hell.
Never ever ever sell your phone, because you got your hands on a developer one or just a phone that slipped through the cracks, because you have full S-OFF.
You should be able to flash ROMs in recovery without going to fastboot to ever flash a kernel, if the ROM is set up for it.

You would do better to change thread title...

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Oh sweet jesus you're lucky as hell.
Never ever ever sell your phone, because you got your hands on a developer one or just a phone that slipped through the cracks, because you have full S-OFF.
You should be able to flash ROMs in recovery without going to fastboot to ever flash a kernel, if the ROM is set up for it.
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Look at a couple post above urs he doesn't have soff
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[Q] htc one x 4.0.4 2.20.502. 710rd model pj83100

I have 4.0.4 soft number 2.20.502.7 710RD HTC SDK API 4.23 HTC ONE X from AT&T model PJ83100, I was trying to unlock the bootloader, to root the phone and to tether the phone so I can use my cell as hotspot, but i have read around i had found post stating that yes it can be done and that no it cant be done. I have tried all options but I cant root my cell, I cant enable my hotspot and can unlock the bootloader. Cna someone please let me know if I can enable my hotspot in some way. I have try also going to HTCDev website with my token but I get an error code 160. error reason mid not allowed. So i never get mi unlock_code.bin.
Also everytime i tried to root the cell it says failed to copy files....
I also have try something that found in another thread to use a superuser SU but didnt work on the phone.
Can someone please help me to understand better if I can o not root my cell, put my hotspot enable and unlock the bootloader, thanks:::
Also what i really want is to use my phone as a modem if someone knows a way to do it, please let me know. thanks
my email is jorzavfa at ice.co.cr or gmail.com
thanks again!! and sorry to start a new thread fr this... cause i have posted my question in several ones.

You should be able to do all these things. Some of the older methods might not work on your phone though as the 2.20 update from AT&T that your phone is running patched the exploits the older methods used. Have you tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952426 ? It even has a video you can watch.

yes i try that one but in the site htcdev i input my token and got an error so i never got the unlock code to put it on the phone.. any ideas

jorzavfa said:
yes i try that one but in the site htcdev i input my token and got an error so i never got the unlock code to put it on the phone.. any ideas
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Did you explicitly follow the instructions in the video where it describes how to copy the token out of command prompt to not copy the INFO at the beginning of every line?
EDIT: It's 2:23 into the video.

lauterm said:
Did you explicitly follow the instructions in the video where it describes how to copy the token out of command prompt to not copy the INFO at the beginning of every line?
EDIT: It's 2:23 into the video.
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yes sir i did but going to try again to be sure..

jorzavfa said:
yes sir i did but going to try again to be sure..
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ok now is working im stuck try to flash the recovery tool but now is unlock sorry to bother you guys,, but this was my 3r time try but now it worked jeje

Even if you unlock, get a custom rom with tethering, and use it you know at&t can detect tethering and will charge you extra right?
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Do you have HTC Sync installed? If so, kill it and try again. It can interfere with the process.
Otherwise, try using the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038. It's what the auto toolkit uses in the background, but it might not be showing you any errors. Make sure you get the responses at step 6 and 7 that it shows. If your CID isn't set to 11111111, then you'll get an token that will generate that error.

lauterm said:
Do you have HTC Sync installed? If so, kill it and try again. It can interfere with the process.
Otherwise, try using the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038. It's what the auto toolkit uses in the background, but it might not be showing you any errors. Make sure you get the responses at step 6 and 7 that it shows. If your CID isn't set to 11111111, then you'll get an token that will generate that error.
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yes thanks for the advice, I already root the bootloader and the rest, now im having problems with the tethering i try tommys but is not working for me, where can i find a rom with tethering functioning?
my problem that i havend said is that im in costa rica so i have to use ICE, internet works fine but cant use hotspot and tethering feature

jorzavfa said:
yes thanks for the advice, I already root the bootloader and the rest, now im having problems with the tethering i try tommys but is not working for me, where can i find a rom with tethering functioning?
my problem that i havend said is that im in costa rica so i have to use ICE, internet works fine but cant use hotspot and tethering feature
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Sorry, I don't have any experience with tethering.
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area51avenger said:
Even if you unlock, get a custom rom with tethering, and use it you know at&t can detect tethering and will charge you extra right?
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Depends on the plan. I don't pay extra for tethering on mobile share.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Just edit telephony.db urself, super easy u just change broadband to pta, reboot then ur done.

DvineLord said:
Just edit telephony.db urself, super easy u just change broadband to pta, reboot then ur done.
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yes i fix the tethering and hotspot on the phone now. thanks for all the help, I edit the file.db with sqlite edit line 2 and 12 in carries and in cache, in those lines put the info of my carrier and worked fine and excellent, thanks for all the help!!

i have the same phone and i take same error mesage, please explain how to unlock,
ten days i am same point, cid errror (cws__001) and htcdev mid 160 error, i try many ways, x factor windows, one click , all in one tool,
in my computer install and sdk tools, htc driver. not installed htc sync.ıı up..
i plug usb to back of desktop, update android sdk, and watch youtube - How to Unlock Bootloader and Root AT&T One X 2.20 - 14minutes,
and first opened vindow in phone , select back restore, and complete the installation. now i use viperxl
arkadaşlar youtubeda bir video buldum, android sdk ları güncelledim, usb kablosunu kasanın arkasına taktım,
vede videodaki gibi ilk açılan android geri yükle komutunu seçtim daha sonra cid kodu değişti ve sorunsuz halloldu.
youtube - How to Unlock Bootloader and Root AT&T One X 2.20 - 14 dakikalık

hospot
jorzavfa said:
yes i fix the tethering and hotspot on the phone now. thanks for all the help, I edit the file.db with sqlite edit line 2 and 12 in carries and in cache, in those lines put the info of my carrier and worked fine and excellent, thanks for all the help!!
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u can explain to me whit u modifiqued this file.db. pls i need use hospot inmy htc pls. tnks.

tornillo said:
u can explain to me whit u modifiqued this file.db. pls i need use hospot inmy htc pls. tnks.
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Just flash a non-AT&T based custom ROM or stock rooted ROM. Probably the easiest way to get mobile hotspot to work, if you are already are bootloader unlocked and rooted (which you must be, to edit the reference files, anyway).

redpoint73 said:
Just flash a non-AT&T based custom ROM or stock rooted ROM. Probably the easiest way to get mobile hotspot to work, if you are already are bootloader unlocked and rooted (which you must be, to edit the reference files, anyway).
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srñ tnsk for u quick answer. my htc its bootloader unlock rooted and s-off cid 11111111 u can help for install custom rom pls.

tornillo said:
srñ tnsk for u quick answer. my htc its bootloader unlock rooted and s-off cid 11111111 u can help for install custom rom pls.
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If you got bootloader unlock, SuperCID, and s-off yourself, you are already 90% there (or did you receive the phone in that condition?). Just install custom recovery (if not already) and put a ROM on the phone and flash it.

redpoint73 said:
If you got bootloader unlock, SuperCID, and s-off yourself, you are already 90% there (or did you receive the phone in that condition?). Just install custom recovery (if not already) and put a ROM on the phone and flash it.
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yes sr. i unlock bootloader and csuper cid amd s-oof whit irkey. and and have a recovery evita. touch. but i tru install any custom rom but i not lucky error 1 error 7 .. you can tell me which rom using a stable and good for i install??

TWRP or CWM recovery? And what version? You might just need to update recovery or reinstall.
What ROMs did you try to flash?
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why you should NOT turn s-on!

i got this pm and i thot it was worth everyone to see. while i do not recomend turning any device s on,a verizon device that is not unlockable via htcdev is of much more importance,as the only thing that can rescue it is a new enough,signed RUU.
it really is not worth the risk,i promise.
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nicholi2789 said:
Hey there, Sorry to bother you with a PM like a noob, but I just have a quick question for you. I have just received a Certified like new replacement M8 from Verizon because my original one had a manufacturer defect. My original one was S-OFF, rooted, with custom recovery and the latest firmware (1.55.605.2) from Verizon. I'm trying to get it back to as close to stock as possible so Verizon doesn't try and say I modified it and mak me pay for it. I already un-rooted it, flashed stock recovery, and took the latest OTA so my radios match my software version. Then I followed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
to re-lock the bootloader and set the lock status flag. It says locked again in fastboot.
The only thing I have left is the S-OFF that displays in fastboot. I'm trying to find a way to reset that, or at least modify it so it shows S-ON. That way if by some weird chance a Verizon employee boots it to fastboot it will show completely stock and S-ON.
Now i've found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475216 for resetting the S-OFF flag. I posted in it and asked if it would work on the M8 and nobody could give me an answer. XDA member brymaster5000 told me to ask you and that you could provide an answer.
So finally, my question is, will this fastboot command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" work to set my M8 back to S-ON? I know it works on the M7 but nobody can tell me for sure on the M8.
Thanks alot for your time.
Nick
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I would very strongly recommend that you do not turn s on. Phones came s off ,so leaving out that way is not an issue.
Turning s on may open a can of worms that you cannot recover from,and then you're paying for a phone for sure.
As long as your stock rom, recovery and locked you're good to go
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What do you mean phones came s-off? Verizon sent people m8s that already were s-off? It just seems like a super obvious indication that the device was modified. Your not the first person that has said that going back to s-on is a bad idea, so I will listen and not tempt fate. But iam curious, What can happen by doing that command that could cause such problems? And don't stock RUUs return you to s-on? Or do they just reset everything else but s-off?
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before any phone is released,batches are sent off to testers and these devices are always s off. i have owned several factory s off devices,and there is no way of proving the phone you have did not come this way. further, large phone resellers are able to use factory htc diagnostic files to clear security data(sim lock,s off,cid/mid),wich again is a legitimate reason a phone is s off.finding s off in the bootloader is not by any means a "super obvious" indication of having been messed with.
turning the phone s on could cause the tampered flag to reset(we dont completely understand all the things that trip it) or you could end up locked into bootloader with a security warning if the boot,system or recovery are not stock enough. either of these things ARE super obvious indicators that you have messed with it,and tried to hide it.
in the case of the security warning,the only course of action is to:
1)run a signed ruu(wich must meet many criteria since youre now s on)
or
2)re-unlock the bootloader. as you know,using htcdev to unlock is not possible with vzw
an ruu does not change/update the partition where the secutity flag lives and thus will NOT turn you s on.

Thanks for the write up, this should help some users decide. Wish it was as easy as flashing a pit file in Odin . That's one of the main reasons I've yet to root/s-off. HTC devices still confuse me xD
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wtoj34 said:
Thanks for the write up, this should help some users decide. Wish it was as easy as flashing a pit file in Odin . That's one of the main reasons I've yet to root/s-off. HTC devices still confuse me xD
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Agreed great write up... in reference to rooting the m8 it is very easy with weak sauce app I also find the s-off to be easier as well compared to Sammy devices using Odin. with my s4 like with the m8 there was no need for a pc for root but weak sause app is easier then using commands in a terminal emulator. Just my two sense.

thunderbls said:
Agreed great write up... in reference to rooting the m8 it is very easy with weak sauce app I also find the s-off to be easier as well compared to Sammy devices using Odin. with my s4 like with the m8 there was no need for a pc for root but weak sause app is easier then using commands in a terminal emulator. Just my two sense.
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You have missed the point... If you are locked into the bootloader with a security warning and s-on, you can not use weak sauce and firewater
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People need to realize that verizon reps and techs see hundreds of phones, they don't know the details of every device. The security and bootloader status is obvious to us because it's our device and we know everything about it. To a samsung person they won't know WTF your talking about.
Scotty, Would one be able to save their device if they had S-Off, modified the CID, then used HTCDev to get their unlock token before embarking on an endeavor to re-lock the phone? In theory would they be able to use the unlock token even after the CID was changed back and the security flags turned on?

l7777 said:
Scotty, Would one be able to save their device if they had S-Off, modified the CID, then used HTCDev to get their unlock token before embarking on an endeavor to re-lock the phone? In theory would they be able to use the unlock token even after the CID was changed back and the security flags turned on?
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Not really... More later
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scotty1223 said:
Not really... More later
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Yes, I misinterpreted the comment as general ease of use which makes me look like an idiot given the reason for the response.... my apologies and note to self read xda after nap lol.

l7777 said:
Scotty, Would one be able to save their device if they had S-Off, modified the CID, then used HTCDev to get their unlock token before embarking on an endeavor to re-lock the phone? In theory would they be able to use the unlock token even after the CID was changed back and the security flags turned on?
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the prollem is that the vzw cid/mid are blocked(by vzws request ) at htcdev. changing the cid and/or mid will let you get an unlock_code.bin that will officially unlock the bootloader,but this token is only good while the phone contains these same parameters. i.e., you cant get yourself a token,then change the cid and mid back to stock and have the "safety net" of a token in case of a catastrophic security warning. cid,mid,esn,etc must all stay same in order for the token to continue working.
Q:"well,what if i just leave the cid/mid at something different?"
A:that may work,but it may set the tampered flag if the phone realizes that those partitions no longer match. since the cid and mid live in write protected partitions,its also possible what once s is on and the phone starts checking things in its boot sequence,that the processor may freak out,and go into a "do not boot" mode when signitures do not match what they should. (read "do not boot" as: pretty affective hard brick only recoverable by jtag)
plus,even if the phone did boot,and did not set the tampered flag, the phone is not stock,and may fail OTAs or have other issues that may affect users the phone is sent back out to,or may give it away that you have modified it.
the fact is,that these phones are not checked very well,as was said above. the chance of it being noticed that the s off phone is even different than others is slim to none,and it is quite possible that the phone will make it back out into the wild as a refurb without any sort of refurbishing process. if you thot all phones were hooked to a master computer that completely reset things,checked hardware,flashed the newest firmware,and reset things like supercid,simlock and s off,youd be mistaken. due to this fact,it is my strong opinion that patched hboots(displaying incorrect info of locked and s on),or incorrect cid/mids are extremely unethical and should never be sent in to fraud htc or the carriers,espeically since it may affect other users. returning the phone to a stock,locked s-off state is honest,and will not affect a future users esperince. the device will OTA and funtion normally and the unsavy user will never even know they have a device that is special
hope that cleared it up some.
also,sorry if either of my replies earlier were rude,they were not intended to be,im only able to text to speech short replies while im at work.

scotty1223 said:
the prollem is that the vzw cid/mid are blocked(by vzws request ) at htcdev. changing the cid and/or mid will let you get an unlock_code.bin that will officially unlock the bootloader,but this token is only good while the phone contains these same parameters. i.e., you cant get yourself a token,then change the cid and mid back to stock and have the "safety net" of a token in case of a catastrophic security warning. cid,mid,esn,etc must all stay same in order for the token to continue working.
Q:"well,what if i just leave the cid/mid at something different?"
A:that may work,but it may set the tampered flag if the phone realizes that those partitions no longer match. since the cid and mid live in write protected partitions,its also possible what once s is on and the phone starts checking things in its boot sequence,that the processor may freak out,and go into a "do not boot" mode when signitures do not match what they should. (read "do not boot" as: pretty affective hard brick only recoverable by jtag)
plus,even if the phone did boot,and did not set the tampered flag, the phone is not stock,and may fail OTAs or have other issues that may affect users the phone is sent back out to,or may give it away that you have modified it.
the fact is,that these phones are not checked very well,as was said above. the chance of it being noticed that the s off phone is even different than others is slim to none,and it is quite possible that the phone will make it back out into the wild as a refurb without any sort of refurbishing process. if you thot all phones were hooked to a master computer that completely reset things,checked hardware,flashed the newest firmware,and reset things like supercid,simlock and s off,youd be mistaken. due to this fact,it is my strong opinion that patched hboots(displaying incorrect info of locked and s on),or incorrect cid/mids are extremely unethical and should never be sent in to fraud htc or the carriers,espeically since it may affect other users. returning the phone to a stock,locked s-off state is honest,and will not affect a future users esperince. the device will OTA and funtion normally and the unsavy user will never even know they have a device that is special
hope that cleared it up some.
also,sorry if either of my replies earlier were rude,they were not intended to be,im only able to text to speech short replies while im at work.
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Excellent info, I wondered if the unlock token was tied to the cid/mid. My personal preference is once the phone is unlocked it stays that way. It's my device and I'll take the responsibility for whatever happens to it barring some kind of hardware defect.

l7777 said:
Excellent info, I wondered if the unlock token was tied to the cid/mid. My personal preference is once the phone is unlocked it stays that way. It's my device and I'll take the responsibility for whatever happens to it barring some kind of hardware defect.
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I agree completely.
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scotty1223 said:
I agree completely.
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Anyone at the point of "return" should at least trying running my RUUish zip from boot loader before even thinking about relocking or s-on.
?. Glad to see you throwing some support over here
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dottat said:
Anyone at the point of "return" should at least trying running my RUUish zip from boot loader before even thinking about relocking or s-on.
?. Glad to see you throwing some support over here
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Lol I try and throw support wherever its needed
So far, no m8 ruus yet. Hopefully some start popping up.
As far as I'm concerned,back to stock sequence is this:
While still rooted:
-return cid/mid to.stock
-reset tampered
-lock bootloader
Then:
-run release keys ruu
-collect underpants
-???
-proffit!
When ruu is not available,restore stock boot,system and recovery from backups.
After that's done allow phone to ota to current
Not sure why folks try and make it more complex than that
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How do you reset tampered?
scotty1223 said:
Lol I try and throw support wherever its needed
So far, no m8 ruus yet. Hopefully some start popping up.
As far as I'm concerned,back to stock sequence is this:
While still rooted:
-return cid/mid to.stock
-reset tampered
-lock bootloader
Then:
-run release keys ruu
-collect underpants
-???
-proffit!
When ruu is not available,restore stock boot,system and recovery from backups.
After that's done allow phone to ota to current
Not sure why folks try and make it more complex than that
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Paulb787 said:
How do you reset tampered?
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Search this forum for a thread. I'm at work, I can't link it at the moment
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scotty1223 said:
So far, no m8 ruus yet. Hopefully some start popping up.
Not sure why folks try and make it more complex than that
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sorta?
For those who stay s-off and have issues I put together an ruu of sorts that includes the ota firmware that will get users out of a sticky situation. ?
Between the two of us we can probably fix most software problems as long as users stay s-off once s-off!!!
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Ha, it's funny that you posted our PM conversation. It's kinda embarrassing but at least I asked someone who knew before just doing it, messing it up, then screaming to the forums for help. And while i am by no means a beginner Android power user, HTC devices are just a little bit different than the Samsung devices I am used to. Though there is alot of good information in this PM conversation that alot more people should know. Glad it could be of use! And thanks for taking the time to reply to my PMs Scotty. I appreciate that.

nicholi2789 said:
Ha, it's funny that you posted our PM conversation. It's kinda embarrassing but at least I asked someone who knew before just doing it, messing it up, then screaming to the forums for help. And while i am by no means a beginner Android power user, HTC devices are just a little bit different than the Samsung devices I am used to. Though there is alot of good information in this PM conversation that alot more people should know. Glad it could be of use! And thanks for taking the time to reply to my PMs Scotty. I appreciate that.
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I didn't mean to embarrass you. They were good questions I thot everyone should read. I should have asked you,and can edit them if you wish.
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scotty1223 said:
I agree completely.
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Nah I wasn't really embarrassed. Haha. I just meant that it's slightly embarrassing that I knew so little about HTC devices, but not a big deal or anything. You were right to post it though, there is some good information there that will do lots of people good.

dottat said:
sorta?
For those who stay s-off and have issues I put together an ruu of sorts that includes the ota firmware that will get users out of a sticky situation. ?
Between the two of us we can probably fix most software problems as long as users stay s-off once s-off!!!
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Definately a great rescue resource. I just want to make sure that folks understand that since it is unsigned,it will do them no good if they are s on,and stuck in bootloader with a security warning.
As you said,they must stay s off to benefit.(further supporting the point of this thread- don't turn s on)
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I was going to relock/S-On my defective M8 before returning it. I didn't have time though, and ended up just sending back only wiped and un-rooted, although I don't think /system was 100% stock. VZW sent me a text:
VZW FREE MSG: Thank You! The defective device you recently returned has been received by Verizon Wireless.
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That was several weeks ago, haven't heard a thing since. I'm assuming they didn't care it was unlocked, or they are very slow at processing the devices.