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permroot for S-off MyTouch 4G Slide

How i got perm root on my MT4GS (does not give S-off just permroot of an S-off device)
YOU NEED TO HAVE A S-OFF device!
1)Start off with a fresh install of the TMO 1.28 ROM
2)Used temp root from MT4GSROOT.zip Thanks TeamWin for the temproot method Here is thread for orgnial files)
open MT4GSROOT\ADB (on pc)
Make sure that you have USB debugging turned on (on phone) and drivers installed to PC
Run Fre3voMT4gS.bat (from MT4GSROOT\ADB)
3)check in ternimal ((on phone) need to install from market)) and see if you have root (I got permission denied)
4)ran superonclick with Gingerbreak exploit (thanks CLShortFuse for making this tool) (on pc) - S1C thread
open MT4GSROOT and click on Superoneclick.exe
change exploit to Gingerbreak
hit root
Installed busybox when asked by S1C
Run Su test and looked on phone and Superuser asked for permission
5)Tried opening a app that uses root (root explorer) and SU FC on me
6)go to market and make sure you had latest version Installed (i had an update I needed)
7)Update binary when opening SU for the first time
Allow the SU app SU priviliages (funny I know)
8)Open a root app (root explorer again) and SU asked for permission
Test for permroot
turned off fastboot
deleted a system/app file (in this case htcfmwidget and htcfmwidge.obex) -using the r/w option in root explorer
Rebooted phone and reopened root explorer and looked for removed files and they were not there
None of the tools that I included were made by me they were made by the people I thanked. I just wrote the script for the tools to work. go to their threads and thank them.
Disclaimer I am not responsible for breaking your phone, melting it, or anything that may happen when doing this. Remember this is your choice
I have been able to use Root explorer, Titanium backup, terminal emulator and was able to remove APKs from the system folder that I do not want.

This is awesome!
So how did you get s-off? Did it ship that way?

raycaster3 said:
So how did you get s-off? Did it ship that way?
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Mine was shipped s-off ordered online
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crackeyes said:
Mine was shipped s-off ordered online
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That's awesome that we've acheived perm root already.
If you don't mind me asking, did you do the preorder process from t-mobile?
I am extremely interested in this, but I hate preorders

crackeyes said:
Mine was shipped s-off ordered online
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Killer. Mine is being shipped the 27th. I can't wait to give this a try. Now all we need is miui for this phone and we're all set! Haha
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier

raycaster3 said:
Killer. Mine is being shipped the 27th. I can't wait to gibe this a try. Now all we need is miui for this phone and we're all set! Haha
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier
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Oh no, I just realized he is probably talking about the DoubleShot.
For some reason I have a feeling that the delay for T-Mobile USA customers is due to HTC installing a S-On bootloader

poormanq45 said:
That's awesome that we've acheived perm root already.
If you don't mind me asking, did you do the preorder process from t-mobile?
I am extremely interested in this, but I hate preorders
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I didn't preorder I acquired at a meet and greet where they gave me place to get it
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Please don't ask for ETA's people would start coming in MT4GS section soon It come's with stock 2.3.4 so all we need is a custom ROM & were fine . I will be creating a TouchWiz 4.0 ROM w/Sense w/ MIUI icon's .
raycaster3 said:
Killer. Mine is being shipped the 27th. I can't wait to give this a try. Now all we need is miui for this phone and we're all set! Haha
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier
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No S-OFF on retail devices folks.
P

I cant get to get my computer to find it, is asking for the driver.... I try but I need the drivers it only appears as android phone on the management.
Update the driver comes on the original SD card, i swapped it which I didn't realized till now
Update 2: After finding the driver I still cant get root access.... anyone done it already?

waiting89 said:
I cant get to get my computer to find it, is asking for the driver.... I try but I need the drivers it only appears as android phone on the management.
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Install htc sync but make sure it is not running
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I got it working and follow the step of rooting, but I still dont get any root access...

is it possible to extract the s-off boot-loader from a device with s-off already? My understanding of these procedures is rudimentary at best, but if my understanding is correct, the boot-loader is a specific partition on the device, if someone with an s-off device could copy that image to their computer or just a folder on their sd-card, it should be possible then to share that with others who could then write that image to their boot-loader partion using fastboot. or can you not use fastboot until s-off is achieved? i hate that i always forget these things once i have my device running the way i want it to.

shizenyasuya said:
is it possible to extract the s-off boot-loader from a device with s-off already? My understanding of these procedures is rudimentary at best, but if my understanding is correct, the boot-loader is a specific partition on the device, if someone with an s-off device could copy that image to their computer or just a folder on their sd-card, it should be possible then to share that with others who could then write that image to their boot-loader partion using fastboot. or can you not use fastboot until s-off is achieved? i hate that i always forget these things once i have my device running the way i want it to.
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The Stupid Noob wants to know...
What the heck is "S-off"??

shizenyasuya said:
is it possible to extract the s-off boot-loader from a device with s-off already? My understanding of these procedures is rudimentary at best, but if my understanding is correct, the boot-loader is a specific partition on the device, if someone with an s-off device could copy that image to their computer or just a folder on their sd-card, it should be possible then to share that with others who could then write that image to their boot-loader partion using fastboot. or can you not use fastboot until s-off is achieved? i hate that i always forget these things once i have my device running the way i want it to.
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In order to flash the s-off bootloader you would have to have a eng bootloader. to put that on you would need s-off dont you love loop 22
As for s-off it means you can flash what ever you want to your device and it will not check to see if HTC signed it and approved it for you

thanks for that works great!!!!!!!!! also mine is from a retail store same day it came out

is it possible to build a PG59IMG file and pack the S-Off hboot into there?? possibly use HexEdit to make sure the version numbers match so that the phone will think it's just a factory reset/update file??

DJAeroX26 said:
is it possible to build a PG59IMG file and pack the S-Off hboot into there?? possibly use HexEdit to make sure the version numbers match so that the phone will think it's just a factory reset/update file??
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I think just by making that one hexedit you instantly invalidate the sign on the the zip. Mainly because hashing the new file would give you a different result.
This mechanism actually prevents OTA updates from flashing if the file was changed due to (for example) corruption.
Not entirely sure but I think it's how it works.
That being said I was wondering what would happen if someone with an S-OFF hboot were to dump it and someone with S-ON would simply DD the right partition after achieving temp root.
On any normal computer that process would work. Wondering what secret HTC things happen under the hood though.

Akujin said:
I think just by making that one hexedit you instantly invalidate the sign on the the zip. Mainly because hashing the new file would give you a different result.
This mechanism actually prevents OTA updates from flashing if the file was changed due to (for example) corruption.
Not entirely sure but I think it's how it works.
That being said I was wondering what would happen if someone with an S-OFF hboot were to dump it and someone with S-ON would simply DD the right partition after achieving temp root.
On any normal computer that process would work. Wondering what secret HTC things happen under the hood though.
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There's only one way to find out.
Sent from a Western Union telegram.

Akujin said:
I think just by making that one hexedit you instantly invalidate the sign on the the zip. Mainly because hashing the new file would give you a different result.
This mechanism actually prevents OTA updates from flashing if the file was changed due to (for example) corruption.
Not entirely sure but I think it's how it works.
That being said I was wondering what would happen if someone with an S-OFF hboot were to dump it and someone with S-ON would simply DD the right partition after achieving temp root.
On any normal computer that process would work. Wondering what secret HTC things happen under the hood though.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying that. I thought it would work because last time I did a warranty exchange, I had to return to stock but I had an ENG hboot and I was scared of bricking by using a factory image, so I took the factory image zip, unpacked it, "injected" the original hboot (which I hex edited to match the version number so that it'll take it as an update) and rezipped it and named it PC10IMG.zip. and yea I have a G2 but I want this phone :]
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[GUIDE] Verify SuperCID From Your Phone (no computer needed)

If you want to check if your phone has a SuperCID but don't have access to a computer to run the fastboot commands you can do so from your phone with the following procedure.
Verifying SuperCID
I got the information for this from the HTC Vision wiki entry:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Vision
I'm sure there is information about gfree in another post but I can't find it to credit anyone. If you know more about it let me know and I'll put the credits in here.
Ok, to verify that SuperCID was applied download the gfree_verfiy.zip file attached, extract and then use a root file explorer (e.g. ES File Explorer) to move the file to /data/local/tmp. When the file has been moved amend it's permissions to:-
User r/w/e
Group r/w
Other r/w
After you do this open Terminal and type the following:-
Code:
$ su
# cd /data/local/tmp
# stop ril-daemon
# ./gfree_verify
You should get the following returned:-
Code:
gfree verify_cid returned:
@CID: 11111111
OK
gfree verify_secu_flag returned:
@secu_flag: 0
OK
gfree verify_simlock returned:
@SIMLOCK= 00
OK
If it says @CID: 11111111 then you have set SuperCID successfully.
When you are finished start the interface layer again by typing:-
Code:
start ril-daemon

Didn't work for me.
CID Getter still says mine is TELST001

sromer said:
Didn't work for me.
CID Getter still says mine is TELST001
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I'm not sure, but I would asume the CID Getter app would just get the CID of the current ROM you are using (the same as typing 'getprop ro.cid' into Terminal). The CID of your ROM and the CID of your phone are not the same. You need to use the method above to get the CID of your phone or alternatively you can use the fastboot commands from an adb connection.

waltsalt said:
I'm not sure, but I would asume the CID Getter app would just get the CID of the current ROM you are using (the same as typing 'getprop ro.cid' into Terminal). The CID of your ROM and the CID of your phone are not the same. You need to use the method above to get the CID of your phone or alternatively you can use the fastboot commands from an adb connection.
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I followed all the instructions, but after i enter
Code:
$ su
# cd /data/local/tmp
# stop ril-daemon
# ./gfree_verify
i get
Code:
gfree verify_cid returned:
@CID: TELST001
OK
gfree verify_secu_flag returned:
@secu_flag: 0
OK
gfree verify_simlock returned:
@SIMLOCK= 00
OK
So it hasn't changed like i should have.
I have no idea why it isn't working.

@sromer - I see, I'm at work at the minute but when I get home I'll run through things on my phone again to check if the attached file, etc. are all doing as they should. The original post is here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192630 - and this has a link to the file hosted on Multiupload. You could try working through the instructions there. If you do, let me know how you get on.
If it has worked for anybody else can you let me know?

waltsalt said:
@sromer - I see, I'm at work at the minute but when I get home I'll run through things on my phone again to check if the attached file, etc. are all doing as they should. The original post is here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192630 - and this has a link to the file hosted on Multiupload. You could try working through the instructions there. If you do, let me know how you get on.
If it has worked for anybody else can you let me know?
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I just tried the one in that thread too and i get the same result.
It says it's worked but my CID stays the same.
Might just have to wait until tomorrow and try it on my pc

I have a really dumb question, but im pretty new to the Sensation, but not android....
Since this is the general section and its related to this thread, ill ask it here.
Why do I need SuperCID and what does it do? Does it have anything to do with flashing ICS firmware or roms? Im still on 2.3 roms as i have not figured out if I need to flash firmware or Hboot (dont even know the difference) to go from 2.3 roms to ICS roms....

SuperCID allows you to flash ROMs from any region e.g. a T-Mobile ROM from the US can be flashed onto a European handset. Without SuperCID this is not possible.
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Aren't you supossed to do this while in fastboot?
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kboater said:
Why do I need SuperCID and what does it do? Does it have anything to do with flashing ICS firmware or roms? Im still on 2.3 roms as i have not figured out if I need to flash firmware or Hboot (dont even know the difference) to go from 2.3 roms to ICS roms....
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Yes you will have to perform one of the SuperCID procedures ( there are several ways to do it ) before you can flash the ICS firmware.

OK, I put my phone back to the HTC__001 CID and reworked through these steps. Setting SuperCID from the phone isn't working for me either. I thought it had worked for me previously but I must have done the fastboot SuperCID procedure back in the days when I unlocked the bootloader so then when I checked if this procedure had worked it looked like it had!
I shall update this post to that effect.
The instructions for verifying the CID are still applicable and definitely work. It means you can check if you have SuperCID on your phone before flashing the new ICS firmware (for those that don't have easy access to a computer).

hey before i go ahead i'd like to know if i need to do a nandroid backup? i tried it once but it said gfree_verify not found ? does that mean after setting the perms i need to reboot and then go ahead whit terminal? lol any risks doing the following? sorry new phone kinda scared

Anyone ?
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The process itself is not that risky, BUT given you've tried once with no joy I'd say better safe than sorry. If all goes to plan you're good, but you never know what you might do accidentally when things start to deviate from the script
More experienced/confident operators might disagree but I tend to err very much on the side of caution. You only sacrifice a bit of time and some SD card space and it could save you much more time and stress later on.
"Better to be looking at it than looking for it!"

goatee84 said:
The process itself is not that risky, BUT given you've tried once with no joy I'd say better safe than sorry. If all goes to plan you're good, but you never know what you might do accidentally when things start to deviate from the script
More experienced/confident operators might disagree but I tend to err very much on the side of caution. You only sacrifice a bit of time and some SD card space and it could save you much more time and stress later on.
"Better to be looking at it than looking for it!"
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Yeah so im about to do a backup whit cwm but idk i hear alot that cmw isn't stable and things like that is that true ?
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For the time I used CWM I had no problems with it, I suppose everyone's opinion of something is based on their personal experience with it.
Having said that I've been using 4ext recovery for a good while now and can highly recommend it, it has a great touch interface and I've had zero problems with it.
There are also plenty of apps available that allow you to do nandroid backups and the like from within the app, you set up what you want to do and the app does the rest (reboot into recovery, perform backup, reboot phone for example), for me I feel like it adds another element of risk so I prefer to do it manually from recovery. The attraction I suppose is the easier interface of a purpose built app but with something like 4ext you have a perfectly good touch interface to use anyway and provided you know what you're doing you should be fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759 if you want to have a look for yourself and see if you like it.

goatee84 said:
For the time I used CWM I had no problems with it, I suppose everyone's opinion of something is based on their personal experience with it.
Having said that I've been using 4ext recovery for a good while now and can highly recommend it, it has a great touch interface and I've had zero problems with it.
There are also plenty of apps available that allow you to do nandroid backups and the like from within the app, you set up what you want to do and the app does the rest (reboot into recovery, perform backup, reboot phone for example), for me I feel like it adds another element of risk so I prefer to do it manually from recovery. The attraction I suppose is the easier interface of a purpose built app but with something like 4ext you have a perfectly good touch interface to use anyway and provided you know what you're doing you should be fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759 if you want to have a look for yourself and see if you like it.
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Thanks alot for the info and having older version of cmw shouldn't make issues whit flashing roms ?
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To be honest, I'm not sure with CWM, maybe someone with more experience with it can answer that.
I do remember someone using 4ext had an issue due to somehow falling back to a beta version during install and the fix ended up being to just install the newest version and all was well. It's somewhere on xda if you have a search (sorry don't have time to have a look for you) I actually came across the problem myself but had already read that thread and caught it before it caused any issues for me.
Again, I can't answer that for CWM but it might be something to be aware of?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710 using XDA

goatee84 said:
To be honest, I'm not sure with CWM, maybe someone with more experience with it can answer that.
I do remember someone using 4ext had an issue due to somehow falling back to a beta version during install and the fix ended up being to just install the newest version and all was well. It's somewhere on xda if you have a search (sorry don't have time to have a look for you) I actually came across the problem myself but had already read that thread and caught it before it caused any issues for me.
Again, I can't answer that for CWM but it might be something to be aware of?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710 using XDA
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No worries thanks alot for the help mate !
Sent from my HTC-Z710a using xda premium

[htc] unlocking utility

I have been able to create a method of unlocking ANY unlockable hboot, on any device (as far as i can tell)
The method works on S-on, stock recovery devices. As of right now im linking to a specific device, however, if you only use the unlock youll be fine. I need testers from other HTC devices.
My first thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24370319#post24370319
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I can confirm this works for MetroPCS Widfire S A510c hboot 1.10.0000. It unlocked my bootloader just fine. No steps required from HTCDev.
Many thanks Simon! Keep up the great work.

Great news!
But it's not full S-OFF, is it?

Not yet. This sets you up for it. Soon an soff will be out the developers of it need kernel help and I'm tryin to help them get it working
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simonsimons34 said:
Not yet. This sets you up for it. Soon an soff will be out the developers of it need kernel help and I'm tryin to help them get it working
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..well when s-off is out? Really dont unerstand for what is your "unlocking utility" then?

This utility allows you to unlock your bootloader without HTCDev, thus saving your warranty
Simon is working on getting universal S-OFF with some other devs. Will take a few, but he'll get it.

bobdamnit said:
This utility allows you to unlock your bootloader without HTCDev, thus saving your warranty
Simon is working on getting universal S-OFF with some other devs. Will take a few, but he'll get it.
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with the option 1 of his tool "Bootloader Unlock CDMA ONLY" ??

That I'm not too sure about. I was told it was universal but needed testing. Simon and I have confirmed it working on several CDMA HTC Wildfire S's. (The only HTC phones we have access to, currently.)
I would say wait for Simon to confirm it should work on GSM HTC phones. I only helped with the code, so I don't know much about the mechanics of the utility.
Sorry.

according the .bat file all the stuff seems to be specific to the wildfire. So I don't undersand why simon is asking us to test it on other devices ?

geek78 said:
according the .bat file all the stuff seems to be specific to the wildfire. So I don't undersand why simon is asking us to test it on other devices ?
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Because this method should work on ANY HTC phone with ANY hboot. We are asking you to try it so it can be confirmed. (Confirmed on Marvelc only so far.)
If you know batch, you can absolutely modify it to your liking.
Also, if you had read the original post:
Simonsimon34 said:
As of right now im linking to a specific device, however, if you only use the unlock youll be fine. I need testers from other HTC devices.
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If you read the .bat file you can see that this can't work on another device

geek78 said:
If you read the .bat file you can see that this can't work on another device
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S-OFF, no. That onlly works on CDMA Widlfire S. Unlock, yes. That should work on ANY HTC device, no matter what the batch file is calling. (It will still perform as it is supposed to.)
I helped write the batch file dude.

bobdamnit said:
S-OFF, no. That onlly works on CDMA Widlfire S. Unlock, yes. That should work on ANY HTC device, no matter what the batch file is calling. (It will still perform as it is supposed to.)
I helped write the batch file dude.
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...can you attach the batch file here?

j4n87 said:
...can you attach the batch file here?
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No I cannot. Since I am not claiming to be the author (only helped him a bit), I will not post their work. If Simon wants to release it, I'm sure he will.
I will however, give you a hint. Download the exe and run it. Leave it open and check your temp files. The batch file is in there somewhere.
Also, guys, give it a shot. At best, it works. At worst, it doesnt, and you still have a locked bootloader.

GUYS I will tell you how it works soon heck ill make its own release if you guys arnt suited with it. I just need to know if option one works. It uses a temp root pulls your misc img and modifys YOUR misc. This then flashes removes temp root and you have an unlocked bootloader. Just make sure your bootloader is up to date. There is nothing specific in the unlock
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simonsimons34 said:
GUYS I will tell you how it works soon heck ill make its own release if you guys arnt suited with it. I just need to know if option one works. It uses a temp root pulls your misc img and modifys YOUR misc. This then flashes removes temp root and you have an unlocked bootloader. Just make sure your bootloader is up to date. There is nothing specific in the unlock
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...well tried it on my HTC One X. no joy.
At least its says still "Locked" in bootloader.

Can you make sure no errors were thrown when temp rooting ? Or errors at all. Sometimes it tries to push too soon. Also can you try downgradeing to the lowest possible
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simonsimons34 said:
Can you make sure no errors were thrown when temp rooting ? Or errors at all. Sometimes it tries to push too soon. Also can you try downgradeing to the lowest possible
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..the HTC One is even not officially out in most countrys.
Theres nothing to downgrade.

Oh its because of the way I temp root. They must of patched it.
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Any more news?

Back from repair now not sure how to root

Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear, (using wire? no chance_. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?

elgrego4 said:
Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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You can't run older ruu when SON
To have custom rom's you need to do SOFF via Juopunutbear way or htc dev unlock
The later might not work for you.. As you might got motherboard replaced..
So only solution is JB via temproot
Link in my signature
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My repair was only for dust under the screen. so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?

elgrego4 said:
so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
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I believe you do know that.. To turn back SON.. Just one command will do... So it literally means the process is reversible
And I'm afraid that there is no other way to use root/custom rom
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I dont actually mean using the exe, i mean pulling the pg file out and putting it on the sd, then it would let me flash back to gingerbread in the bootloader?

I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick

elgrego4 said:
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
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You can still flash ROMs while S On.

Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid

elgrego4 said:
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
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yes with SOFF ..everything is easy ..but sadly the JB method is the only way for you

Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?

elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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idk and i dont think there's gonna be another SOFF process..as now ppl are concentrating on SOFF for ONE series

elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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I highly doubt it. If you're uncomfortable, you should stick with stock. It's always wise to not do it if you aren't sure of it..

If I had steady hands it wouldnt be a problem, Im a flashaholic, hate stock lol x

Maybe if you read over it a few times you might get a bit more comfortable with it? What I do is even print out the guide so I don't miss a step.this has really helped me in the past when doing new things, I know it may sound silly but its nice to have a printed guide infront of you incase you get in a pinch. This way all the steps are right there in front of you. This is what I do. Just a suggestion. If you DO decide to give it a shot then maybe this might help. I wish you the best in which ever you decide. I just wanted to share this with you because having a printed guide has really helped me out in the past. Good luck and best wishes to you!
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Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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elgrego4 said:
Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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not properly rooted ..it seems..
did you got any errors when temp root was run...also make sure htc sync is uninstalled(have the drivers installed too) and the phone should be kept in htc sync mode ...also no hubs or usb 3.0 ports

Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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what nearly there ...you are done lol..
just do a supercid
(first note down the actual cid though..just in case ...fastboot getvar cid ..to know cid)
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
EDIT: ohh the hboot is still locked huh ..
then get the pyramic ics one from here http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
and flash it (instructions in the same link)
also after those instructions..to get back to bootloader..the command is "fastboot reboot-bootloader" without quotes

elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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If your Hboot still says *locked* you cannot flash a recovery.
Please get the correct Hboot from here & follow flashing instructions: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
You can then proceed to flashing recovery.

Right done that even though the green line never goes to the end my hboot no longer says locked. I put the recovery zip on the sd, booted into bootloader said yes, completed and rebooted, but no custom recovery there?
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[Q] no bootloader, s-off, root under android 4.1.1

Hello,
I bought me a used evo shift 4g with android 4.1.1. Is there a possibility, to get s-off or root? I can't even get into bootloader (volume down and power). I already tried different methods, but nothing seems to work. Can anybody help me please?

derkleinebroicher said:
Hello,
I bought me a used evo shift 4g with android 4.1.1. Is there a possibility, to get s-off or root? I can't even get into bootloader (volume down and power). I already tried different methods, but nothing seems to work. Can anybody help me please?
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Yes you can get s-off, look in the development section, there is a one click root. Since you have 4.1 on there I am guessing you are S-ON rooted?

derkleinebroicher said:
Hello,
I bought me a used evo shift 4g with android 4.1.1. Is there a possibility, to get s-off or root? I can't even get into bootloader (volume down and power). I already tried different methods, but nothing seems to work. Can anybody help me please?
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If you can't get into bootloader, try enabling usb debugging ( Settings > Development), then connect your phone to your computer and download the Android Debug Bridge (ADB) from HERE
Open a command window in the place where you extracted the adb files and type "adb devices"
If your device is not recognized, download and install the drivers from HERE
After that, try "adb devices" again, if something like "HT8472JW76 device" shows up, then that's good
Now type "adb reboot-bootloader" and see if that gets you into bootloader
This is kind of a lot of work, but it definitely helps in the long run. Also, I would not run my utility until you have downgraded to 2.2 by running an RUU (all of them can be found HERE, 2.2 is the one that has the number "1.17.651") or by flashing a PG06IMG.zip through bootloader. The utility checks what version you are using, and if its anything other than 2.2 or 2.3.4 it throws an error, so just downgrade to 2.2 directly and then use the utility.
If you have any questions or if anything does not make sense, don't be afraid to ask
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bilgerryan said:
Yes you can get s-off, look in the development section, there is a one click root. Since you have 4.1 on there I am guessing you are S-ON rooted?
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Nevr heard about s-on rooted - but i'm no expert. What I can say is, that i have no super-user rights.

CNexus said:
If you can't get into bootloader, try enabling usb debugging ( Settings > Development), then connect your phone to your computer and download the Android Debug Bridge (ADB) from HERE
Open a command window in the place where you extracted the adb files and type "adb devices"
If your device is not recognized, download and install the drivers from HERE
After that, try "adb devices" again, if something like "HT8472JW76 device" shows up, then that's good
Now type "adb reboot-bootloader" and see if that gets you into bootloader
This is kind of a lot of work, but it definitely helps in the long run. Also, I would not run my utility until you have downgraded to 2.2 by running an RUU (all of them can be found HERE, 2.2 is the one that has the number "1.17.651") or by flashing a PG06IMG.zip through bootloader. The utility checks what version you are using, and if its anything other than 2.2 or 2.3.4 it throws an error, so just downgrade to 2.2 directly and then use the utility.
If you have any questions or if anything does not make sense, don't be afraid to ask
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OK! Thanks a lot. I will tell you, if I was sussesful.

derkleinebroicher said:
Nevr heard about s-on rooted - but i'm no expert. What I can say is, that i have no super-user rights.
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Do you have superuser installed? Or ROM Manager? You're problem is strange. Check out ROM Manager after you install superuser and see if it will let you install a recovery... I have never had S-On root I just know it's out there and you have to have some kind of root because you are not on stock. I am S-Off and most of the people on here are, so root that baby and get to flashing.

bilgerryan said:
Do you have superuser installed? Or ROM Manager? You're problem is strange. Check out ROM Manager after you install superuser and see if it will let you install a recovery... I have never had S-On root I just know it's out there and you have to have some kind of root because you are not on stock. I am S-Off and most of the people on here are, so root that baby and get to flashing.
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well, I know these things from my wildfire. I have installed superuser and also ROM manager but can'tget superuser permissions or install a recovery. But when I start the phone, there is not the original HTC-screen, but a custom-screen. So I agree with you, that I am not on stock - some kind of very strange. It seems to me, that all the root-tools only work with 2.3.x, so if i could downgrade, that might help as well.

derkleinebroicher said:
well, I know these things from my wildfire. I have installed superuser and also ROM manager but can'tget superuser permissions or install a recovery. But when I start the phone, there is not the original HTC-screen, but a custom-screen. So I agree with you, that I am not on stock - some kind of very strange. It seems to me, that all the root-tools only work with 2.3.x, so if i could downgrade, that might help as well.
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The shift was shipped with 2.2 and 2.3.x so if you have anything other then that it was rooted to get to where you are. How you lost root is beyond any of us. And maybe beyond the guy that sold it to you. Pull the battery and place it back in hold volume down and power, that should be a sure shot at getting to bootloader, then take a picture and post that
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He said he couldn't get to the bootloader with power and volume down

derkleinebroicher said:
well, I know these things from my wildfire. I have installed superuser and also ROM manager but can'tget superuser permissions or install a recovery. But when I start the phone, there is not the original HTC-screen, but a custom-screen. So I agree with you, that I am not on stock - some kind of very strange. It seems to me, that all the root-tools only work with 2.3.x, so if i could downgrade, that might help as well.
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Like strapped365 said, this is definitely a weird situation and I've never come across it myself. The best option would probably be to just run a 2.2 RUU and root from there. You can also check for root by downloading "root checker" from the play store, its by joeykrim (the free version will work fine)
strapped365 said:
The shift was shipped with 2.2 and 2.3.x so if you have anything other then that it was rooted to get to where you are. How you lost root is beyond any of us. And maybe beyond the guy that sold it to you. Pull the battery and place it back in hold volume down and power, that should be a sure shot at getting to bootloader, then take a picture and post that
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He had said earlier that that didn't work for him, that's why I suggested the adb route
derkleinebroicher said:
OK! Thanks a lot. I will tell you, if I was sussesful.
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No problem, post if any issues :good:
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If he can't get into boot loader its probably because fastboot is checked. In 2.3x its in settings/power at the bottom. I don't know about his though.

Chad The Pathfinder said:
If he can't get into boot loader its probably because fastboot is checked. In 2.3x its in settings/power at the bottom. I don't know about his though.
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Hmm, my understanding was that fastboot is only on HTC roms?
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
If he can't get into boot loader its probably because fastboot is checked. In 2.3x its in settings/power at the bottom. I don't know about his though.
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He said he was on 4.1 there are only two choices for JB before yesterday... Evervolv or deck's CM10

bilgerryan said:
He said he couldn't get to the bootloader with power and volume down
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Bootloader don't just do a houdini its there somewhere
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I was thinking broken volume button cuz I couldn't come up with anything else lol

Bootloader don't just do a houdini its there somewhere
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Hmm, thats interesting. So its not possible to delete the bootloader at all?
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It's me again. I just connected the guy, who sold me this phone. Perhaps he can help. If not, i will try the adb-method. If I get problems with that, I'll ask for help again here - i'f never tried this method. But thanks to all you guys so far for your interest and support. i'll keep you informed.
P.S. Root checker told me "no root". And because some one asked me, this is the bootscreen. there is no HTC-screen before that. ATTACH]1532658[/ATTACH]

derkleinebroicher said:
It's me again. I just connected the guy, who sold me this phone. Perhaps he can help. If not, i will try the adb-method. If I get problems with that, I'll ask for help again here - i'f never tried this method. But thanks to all you guys so far for your interest and support. i'll keep you informed.
P.S. Root checker told me "no root". And because some one asked me, this is the bootscreen. there is no HTC-screen before that. ATTACH]1532658[/ATTACH]
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No problem, keep us posted :good:
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CNexus said:
Hmm, thats interesting. So its not possible to delete the bootloader at all?
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Check what was quoted.... Did I say that? no I did not, i said it don't just disappear. And before that I said the guy that sold it to him would know what was wrong.
Now if you delete your bootloader that's on you, and if you did it and didn't tell anyone then sold said phone, you would be the only one who could help someone in that situation. After you hangout here more you will notice a redundancy of posts because 90% of rooted users don't even deserve to have a smartphone let alone a rooted one, so they never know what their talking about so we try to push the core troubleshooting methods to get them to where they need to go. It's like calling sprint what's their first step? Factory data reset to give you a level playing field, here I just told the guy how to get into bootloader if there was a fastboot checked. Also I've seen so many users get the version of Sense mixed up with the version of Android so again we fall back to the core known methods of solving a problem. I've been with the shift since release so I've seen every failed ota by HTC and every moronic thing that can be done with this phone. But no matter how I told him to get somewhere all you new guys just take over like no oldies but goodies know......btw if bootloader is missing adb reboot bootloader wouldn't work either right? So again with the redundant instructions to get the the same place
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bilgerryan said:
He said he was on 4.1 there are only two choices for JB before yesterday... Evervolv or deck's CM10
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Just forget about me....
btw, there are alot more sites then XDA that may have ROMS for the shift.