I have been researching this for months now,
Some phones have 1 GB but the available ram for the OS and apps is normally less. Like the Moto G, the available ram is only 882 mb
I have had phones in the past that has 1 GB ram and the available ram is more than 970 mb (Chinese brands)
I want to make use of the most of the 1 GB the phone has even if its on the cost of other things, like the GPU memory.
If someone can help that would be really beneficial.
Thank you
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I posted this in the wrong section and I cant find a way to delete it?
Those ~100MB are most likely used by system/kernel. Maybe some are used for the graphics processing. I cant tell more.
You can get more swap space using zram. With latest CM build I have ~100MB of swap.
You must ask to a dev like faux, this is a "kernel stuff"
wrong section buddy...
Wrong section but, the ram it shows available it's really the ram available... The left ram is used for system things, which is why it isnt showed. Not sure it can be raised up
Wait for delta roh and arbir to add the moto g in their TURBO BOOST, it could increase the ram of my old one v of 200+ mb (it uses data and cache swap)
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Im totally suprised because I though that the HTC Jade (touch 3G) has 192MB of RAM but the system does only use 123mb of it :S Is this normal and if, why?
I made some screenshots of my system one showing from the settings and the other from mobile taskmanager...
Thanks for the answers!
If you didn't bring this up, I would have never known about that. lol
I'm assuming the rest of the RAM is for the video, but someone please confirm. Thanks!
On all devices(depending on the ROM you use) your actual available program RAM at startup is decreased from the actual hardwares amount.
For instance, the fuze/touch pro has 288 MB RAM, but when you start the device up you get about 200MB free RAM. With the custom ROM i'm using i actually only get 189.00 MB free Program RAM.
As to what occupies the seemingly unused space, i'm unaware of. All i know is it seems to be taken up by the ROM image.
Hope this helps.
so.. ist there any possibility to hack those unused space of ram with an custom rom or something? I mean 60MB makes about 50% of the ram which is currently used :S
Am I the only one? Is there anyone else noting less RAM then 192mb with his Touch3G?
You can't "hack" it. some ROMs use less RAM and you get a nicer bigger amount of it since your OS takes less space.. you can find a ROM for your device with more RAM space... that's the best you can do.
Everything I have seen on the internet (including HTC's own specs page) shows the EVO SHift having 512 MB of RAM. However, it seems as if my system only has 368 MB (as detected by V6 Supercharger and a couple hardware info apps I downloaded from the market). Does anybody know why this would be the case? My phone is newer (just got it a little over a month ago). Could HTC have lessened the amount of RAM in the new Shifts?
Also, I am running MikShifted-G v1.6 if that makes any difference.
Mine says I have 367,haha, i believe it might only show total available after all the system android stuff... I am probally wrong because I have AOSP which is so much smaller and less bloated that your sense and i have less.. Haha.. But idk... Just speculation
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mine shows,
internal 452/321 free
rom 410/91.9 free
This might help explain things better
]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023[/URL]
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Thanks for the link, but I'm just talking about total RAM, not amount free. Everything indicates I have 368 MB of RAM (not internal storage or ROM or anything, but actual RAM). The Evo Shift supposedly has 512 MB, but I know the HTC Merge has 368 MB, so I was wondering if they lowered the RAM on the newer Shifts.
To check the RAM, download the app Android System Info. It is not Internal Memory, but RAM. Mine says Max 368 MB.
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Has anyone added more ram? Ive seen 1 gig sticks for$38. I might have to try if noone else has. Curious if it might speed the shift up.?
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They're talking about internal memory on the phone. Are you talking about an sdcard?
Its possible the gpu has an amount dedicated to it that will not be shown. Sort of like checking the ram on a laptop will show less than the stated specs
Hey guys and girls,
I have a question, I've looked for an answer but I haven't found one. From my experience with android devices, the RAM amount is not fully available. My ZTE Blade had 420 MB available, my nexus one 404 MB, my SGS1 313 MB (?!?! WTF) and my actual LG Speed (aka 2X) has 373 MB available RAM, as I understand some RAM gets allocated to the GPU.
Could someone install the free app Android System Info from the Market and tell me what the app reports at the Dashboard/RAM/Max RAM? This is very important to me, because I do lots of multitasking and I need some apps to always stay in the background, like PKT Auctions or eBay etc. and I find them sometimes closed because of not enough free available RAM, even though I always close rarely used apps after using (MIUI hold back button to close + Autostarts App to keep not needed stuff away from opening).
Thanks a lot, this will help me to take the decision to skip from the LG 2X to the LG 3D (no, I don't want an SGSII, I want to experiment with 3D).
I just installed it and it says that max mem is 441MB so if your Blade or N1 gave you enough room to multitask then this phone will certainly fit your needs.
Thanks a lot mate. I went into a Telekom (T-Mobile) Shop and I have found out from the Quick System Info App that it indeed has 441MB available, BUT 117MB are SWAP The 2X has 373MB but swap is 0. From previous experience with android devices and computers, swap is always bad and slow. So the real available amount of RAM of the LG Optimus 3D is 324MB which is crap, LG just tried to trick the things a little by adding a swap partition.
I have searched in the forums but haven't found anything about a swap partition, which is a very important factor.
I am wondering if anyone of you feel suspicious about RAM consumption on android?
Here is an example:
Galaxy tab 2 7" listed with 1GB RAM, but when viewed with stock task manager in RAM manager section, the RAM available is not 1GB, but rather on some 687MB. Furthermore, from that 687MB there is some already used by apps. Even on newly bought device with no open apps, the amount of used RAM is around 200MB, so that leaves only approx 487MB left. Even after using task killers, there is still hundreds of MB used RAM
When I search for why the RAM is not 1GB, people answer its because its reserved by android.
When I search for why there are used RAM when there is no open apps and on newly bought device, people also answer its because its used by android.
So I would categorize the problem as "the missing RAM" and "the used RAM" and ask these question:
1. If the "missing RAM" is reserved by android, then what is using the "used RAM"?
2. If the "used RAM" is used by android, then what is causing the "missing RAM"?
Does that means android double use the RAM? or is it something else?
Please enlighten me.
Great question, and I have been wondering the same thing. :thumbup:
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The problem with me is somewhat like you i found with stock rom that have alot of bloatware that i have about 680 mb after installing cm10 which do not have bloatware at all the same amount of memory is found !!!!
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It's easy in the world of IT 1gb is never 1024mb its 1,000mb in most cases(You can actually see your computers harddrive where they say 500gb = 500,000MB)(but it will probably maximum 998)Why? in the factory where these are made they cannot achieve 100% "capability" And where is the missing 300mb? its reserved for the ACTUAL Android system.In the task killers you can see that there are some apps running(samsung touchwiz,system-apps(not google) Which MAINTAIN the system ,and you can also see that the google apps and some other(fb,twitter etc which needs to check the intertnet to get notification etc are running too.Now to increase the ram you can install a custom rom/kernel to remove somethings(for e.g touchwiz) to get more RAM.
Now dont take these notes to serious I'm not working in these factories,places where they do this.But this is MY theory.
Tab2 should have 1 gb ram right
Galaxy s2 should also have 1 gb ram right
So why the hell when i install cm in both ram in s2 is 827 mb and in tab2 is 687 mb it is driving me mad !!!
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It's easy in the world of IT 1gb is never 1024mb its 1,000mb in most cases(You can actually see your computers harddrive where they say 500gb = 500,000MB)(but it will probably maximum 998)Why? in the factory where these are made they cannot achieve 100% "capability" And where is the missing 300mb? its reserved for the ACTUAL Android system.In the task killers you can see that there are some apps running(samsung touchwiz,system-apps(not google) Which MAINTAIN the system ,and you can also see that the google apps and some other(fb,twitter etc which needs to check the intertnet to get notification etc are running too.Now to increase the ram you can install a custom rom/kernel to remove somethings(for e.g touchwiz) to get more RAM.
Now dont take these notes to serious I'm not working in these factories,places where they do this.But this is MY theory.
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I do realize 1GB is not 1024MB, but at least task manager should show something around 900MB like you said.
For the Touchwiz theory, I also think that it might be the culprit of the "used RAM", but i don't think it would be that much, but that's because I'm not including google apps on that. So i think your theory might be right.
Selim already answer the "missing RAM" part, it is the same amount on custom ROM, which means they DO reserved by android. And that leads to how much is the "used RAM" part, is it more "sensible" without the bloatware running around?
Mohamedselim said:
The problem with me is somewhat like you i found with stock rom that have alot of bloatware that i have about 680 mb after installing cm10 which do not have bloatware at all the same amount of memory is found !!!!
Tab2 should have 1 gb ram right
Galaxy s2 should also have 1 gb ram right
So why the hell when i install cm in both ram in s2 is 827 mb and in tab2 is 687 mb it is driving me mad !!!
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[URL="http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care"]Read this and chill out
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There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
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For most android devices, the true available RAM is always less than the stated figure, like GT2 has only 687MB, HTC One X has 976MB even both devices has 1GB RAM
Those missing RAM are not stolen, instead they are reserved by the kernel for hardware of the devices. Don't blame anyone for this, this is crucial.
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Read this and chill out
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That is an interesting concept of memory management.
FYI, I'm not freaked out, just wondering where the memory goes, is it effectively used or eaten by some "rouge" apps.
Thanks anyway
However my Galaxy Tab plus with ics had about 800 mb ram in the task manager. Now (yes, my gtab plus has been stolen... grr) I have the tab 2 and I see only 687. Really strange, don't you think?
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can someone who has well experienced with different ROMS for tab2 7.0(p3100) help me??
i originally had ICS 4.0.4 which displayed around 680 MB ram, then upgraded it to 4.1.2 jelly bean which displayed me 770 MB RAM.
i though as custom ROMS have seldom bloatwares, atleast they should display more memory, but to my surprise i found 691 MB RAM on the latest nightly build of Cyanogenmod 10.1(jelly bean 4.2). I ve not used the AOKP jelly bean ROM due to limited internet(downloading) at my place.
as i am having a LIMITED FREE INTERNET USAGE, i am not dowloading more ROMS until some one finally helps me with the fact that
"WHICH ROM DISPLAYS MORE MEMORY FOR TAB 2 P3100??????" so that i can download it the next month or via some other network
I don't think you for it, the missing ram is the system. The tab has 1 gig to start, but whennyou fire it up, the system has to use resources. The same way a computer says it has 2 gigs, but if you check, it is lower. The reason this changes from rom to rom is because each system has its own ram management. Does this help?
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as everywhere ram is Noticed 512Mb but why we have only 390~ MB ??
is rest of mb ram use for system hack ? or 512Mb ram is just fake rumor ?
Use AOSP roms like CM10 and you will get you 512 MB RAM back. Stock ROM reserves RAM for itself.
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Cm10 also have only 380~ MB Ram :'(
Remaining is used as video memory.
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Remaining RAM is allocated for various system tasks which cannot be accessed by your applications and hence it doesn't even show as part of the available free RAM.
Think of your 100 GB HDD. Now partition it into 80 GB for yourself and 20 GB for someone else. You cant use the 20 GB. It's in use for something else already.
thanks to everyone Now i Understand