I've read a ton of info on custom ROMs based on Kit Kat so I am curious. I am currently running CROMi-X 5.3a and Hundsbauh's kernel V10. I really like this setup and the performance tops any other configuration I have tried on my tablet. It is solid with no bugs (that I have experienced) and the overclock settings offer a great balance between performance and battery life. But the engineer/hacker/tweaker side of me is curious as to what a Kit Kat based ROM can offer in comparison. Are there any gains over my current setup that would warrant the hassle of returning to stock, flashing the new recovery and ROM?
Second question - are there any plans in the future to come out with a Kit Kat based CROMi-X? I guess that would depend on Asus and if they release an upgrade for our tablet that could then be modified.
Anyhow, I appreciate any insights that can be offered.
pastorbob62 said:
I've read a ton of info on custom ROMs based on Kit Kat so I am curious. I am currently running CROMi-X 5.3a and Hundsbauh's kernel V10. I really like this setup and the performance tops any other configuration I have tried on my tablet. It is solid with no bugs (that I have experienced) and the overclock settings offer a great balance between performance and battery life. But the engineer/hacker/tweaker side of me is curious as to what a Kit Kat based ROM can offer in comparison. Are there any gains over my current setup that would warrant the hassle of returning to stock, flashing the new recovery and ROM?
Second question - are there any plans in the future to come out with a Kit Kat based CROMi-X? I guess that would depend on Asus and if they release an upgrade for our tablet that could then be modified.
Anyhow, I appreciate any insights that can be offered.
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As CROMi is a stock based ROM, it is unlikely that Asus will release a KitKat stock version to make that. KitKat was designed to work on lower spec devices, which makes it rather fast compared to previous AOSP versions. As it is relatively new, you will encounter some bugs and stability problems, but nothing that keeps it from being a daily driver.
pastorbob62 said:
I've read a ton of info on custom ROMs based on Kit Kat so I am curious. I am currently running CROMi-X 5.3a and Hundsbauh's kernel V10. I really like this setup and the performance tops any other configuration I have tried on my tablet. It is solid with no bugs (that I have experienced) and the overclock settings offer a great balance between performance and battery life. But the engineer/hacker/tweaker side of me is curious as to what a Kit Kat based ROM can offer in comparison. Are there any gains over my current setup that would warrant the hassle of returning to stock, flashing the new recovery and ROM?
Second question - are there any plans in the future to come out with a Kit Kat based CROMi-X? I guess that would depend on Asus and if they release an upgrade for our tablet that could then be modified.
Anyhow, I appreciate any insights that can be offered.
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I were on the CROMI-X rom before updating to Kitkat, and I can only agree with you, it's an amazing rom!
But after updating to kitkat I feel the system is even faster and alot more cleaner. The only bug i've encounter is some problem with GPS - witch is kind of easy to fix. If you flash the GrimLock kernel you will be able to get 1.7GHz out of the Tegra chip, and ofcource there is overclock for the GPU to! I got ~16800 in AnTuTu
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I were on the CROMI-X rom before updating to Kitkat, and I can only agree with you, it's an amazing rom!
But after updating to kitkat I feel the system is even faster and alot more cleaner. The only bug i've encounter is some problem with GPS - witch is kind of easy to fix. If you flash the GrimLock kernel you will be able to get 1.7GHz out of the Tegra chip, and ofcource there is overclock for the GPU to! I got ~16800 in AnTuTu
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That is impressive but I can top that. Running CROMi-X with hundsbauh v10 kernel I get 18609 in Antutu. That is oc'd to 1.7 ghz on CPU and 520 Mhz on the GPU . I have never experienced the lag that others have mentioned. But I also flashed the ROM using all of theperformance enhancements included.
What ROM are you running, Omni or Cyogen?
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Someone may be able answer but i doubt but i have to ask the question...
Had my tf since november - the business on it as soon as it was out of the box. But no matter what image ive loaded onto it its always been slow ( i think ive tried them all) ie my nexus4 runs greasy smooth compared to my tf, almost to the point that a guy at work gave me a 300 to unlock and his seemed a lot better/smoother/faster than mine....is it just mine or is it the norm
currently im on cyanogen 10.1 latest nightly with the bryce overclocked kernel running at 1.9gb if i was a betting man i would say the nova launcher was running about 10fps with all the special effects off...as a guide...
ps especially the browser - no matter which one it always takes ages to load pages....
Thanks to anyone that can shed any light on it....
I must admit I struggle with your story language-wise, but I think I do get your general statement. CROMI, for example, should run smoothly, no matter what, UNLESS your device is faulty.
I'd recommend wiping EVERYTHING -- so you do not run into remnants form earlier ROMs/installations -- and starting anew with CROMI, just to be sure. Update your bootloader (to the JB version), and then try data2SD if it is still not to your liking.
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I must admit I struggle with your story language-wise, but I think I do get your general statement. CROMI, for example, should run smoothly, no matter what, UNLESS your device is faulty.
I'd recommend wiping EVERYTHING -- so you do not run into remnants form earlier ROMs/installations -- and starting anew with CROMI, just to be sure. Update your bootloader (to the JB version), and then try data2SD if it is still not to your liking.
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And to add to Marty's efforts what ever you do if flashisg from a custom recovery with JB 4.1 or later do not use an older version of any recovery!
Hi - which rom is that...?
I must say im kind of trying that right now....complete wipe, factory reset and then a factory reset from the recovery screen....its auto loading the apps at the moment....thanks for the reply all the same....ive never tried that bit of software that goes on the memory card...is there a walkthrough somewhere?
im pretty sure im on the jb bootloader but is there a way to check??
You can flash the latest bootloader form page 2 of the CleanRom Inheritance thread And CROMI from page 1
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As far as I know stock TF700 related ROMs are laggy and require a custom Over clocked kernel such as Clemsyn which is rubbish and even with this performance is sluggish. But her is a way to get rid of the lag once and for all. Unlock and root the TF700. Then install Cyanogenmod 10.1 latest build and then when you boot into it set the IO as CFQ permenantly and then use Seeder with the settings on aggressive and the IO extend option unticked but all the rest of the options ticked. Also use lightning browser or Browser2RAM which enhances the stock Android browsers performance.
After that enjoy a super fast transformer like never before. Don't use any other rom . My transformer got nearly 150000 on Antutu which is really good and I got nearly 5500 on Quadrant with it on performance mode (I didn't use the custom CM10.1 customs kernel or any other one just the stock CM10.1 kernel). My transformer in balanced seems to be on par with an iPad 2, 3 and better than a normal Asus transformer Prime or TF300 and I have over 40 applications with several games with 1+GB data. The IO problem is still there as it is hardware based although with this their is nearly no lag for the first time. Beautiful TF700 CyanogenMod developers. I read the commit log and checked the code many gerrit optimisations for the IO and Armv7 cores. Enjoy!!!!! Wohoo Project Butter!!!!!
Continue Cyanogenmod providing better support than Asus. One reason to jailbreak (Root) is because of this.
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As far as I know stock TF700 related ROMs are laggy and require a custom Over clocked kernel such as Clemsyn which is rubbish and even with this performance is sluggish. But her is a way to get rid of the lag once and for all. Unlock and root the TF700. Then install Cyanogenmod 10.1 latest build and then when you boot into it set the IO as CFQ permenantly and then use Seeder with the settings on aggressive and the IO extend option unticked but all the rest of the options ticked. Also use lightning browser or Browser2RAM which enhances the stock Android browsers performance.
After that enjoy a super fast transformer like never before. Don't use any other rom . My transformer got nearly 150000 on Antutu which is really good and I got nearly 5500 on Quadrant with it on performance mode (I didn't use the custom CM10.1 customs kernel or any other one just the stock CM10.1 kernel). My transformer in balanced seems to be on par with an iPad 2, 3 and better than a normal Asus transformer Prime or TF300 and I have over 40 applications with several games with 1+GB data. The IO problem is still there as it is hardware based although with this their is nearly no lag for the first time. Beautiful TF700 CyanogenMod developers. I read the commit log and checked the code many gerrit optimisations for the IO and Armv7 cores. Enjoy!!!!! Wohoo Project Butter!!!!!
Continue Cyanogenmod providing better support than Asus. One reason to jailbreak (Root) is because of this.
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Well not to brag but flash CROMI which is based on stock and you can achieve 17000 on antutu and over 7000 on quadrant. So much for stock ROMs being laggy eh?
Now with no overclocking you are looking at 5500 - 6000 on quadrant so would seem to be on par with CM based ROMs. I do like CM but you lose some functionality whilst gaining others and you have to suffer some stability issues especially if doing nightlies. Also they never seem to finish them.....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164090
This user posted the same response in the above thread also.
Looks to me like someone has an agenda.
Thats OK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164090
This user posted the same response in the above thread also.
Looks to me like someone has an agenda.
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Don't you? I know I have!
MartyHulskemper said:
Don't you? I know I have!
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Yes I do
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Me three!
As the TF101 has been around for a LONG time and much dev has gone into ROMs, Apps, and mods, I would like to know what is the most optimized setup for this device. I want to get the most out of my TF101 and I am wondering what the fastest most stable configuration is? Also what are cool uses for this tablet...i.e. any cool ways to unlock it? Any cool ways to use the sensors inside?
I am currently running KatKiss 4.2.2 #226 with the built in kernel.
OCed to 1504 and running SmartAss V2 and Noop governors.
Antutu Benchmarks at 9566 today.
Id say you have the best config already
Be sure to run in a terminal the two optimize scripts from time to time.
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/etc/kat/optimizedb
/etc/kat/optimizestorage
That will keep it running in tip top shape.
frederuco said:
Be sure to run in a terminal the two optimize scripts from time to time.
su
/etc/kat/optimizedb
/etc/kat/optimizestorage
That will keep it running in tip top shape.
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I just add it to crontab, too forgetful :s
Is there any reason to go to 4.3? I don't see much improvement except for the automated DB/storage optimization.
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...f101-roms/38407-rom-jb-4-3-katkiss-tf101.html
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Is there any reason to go to 4.3? I don't see much improvement except for the automated DB/storage optimization.
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...f101-roms/38407-rom-jb-4-3-katkiss-tf101.html
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Depends where you are. 4.0.3 to 4.1 is a HUGE step in performance and smoothness. 4.2 is slightly faster and 4.3 is even faster feeling to me.
Most users who go from 4.0.3 to 4.2 or 4.3 are AMAZED how it feels like a brand new updated tablet.
I am actually already on KatKiss 4.2.2 so I'm wondering if it's worth it.
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I am actually alread on KatKiss 4.2.2 so I'm wondering if it's worth it.
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I feel like it is faster.
My suggestion - backup KatKiss 4.2.2 in TWRP.
Dirty flash to 4.3 (you can dirty flash from 4.2.2 to 4.3 but cannot dirty flash from 4.3 to 4.2.2)
See if you like it better.
If not, restore 4.2.2.
Also, many of the customizations in the Control Center are not implemented yet (mostly status bar and nav bar customizations like different color buttons, glass, different battery icons, etc)
If you live by these, stick with 4.2.2.
I may wait until there is a more mature stable version with less "things that don't work" I just ran the cleanup tasks suggested above and ran AnTuTu again and scored 14000+ so I'm pretty happy where I'm at =)
I find a good total wipe(minus sdcard) with a fresh rom once in a while speeds things up. Don't you find? I've been sticking with katkiss latest 4.3.1. Going from 4.2.2 to 4.3 had storage path issues. Not sure what else. Maybe stick with 4.2.2 for now if your satisfied. 4.3.1 is fine though. Then when its ready possibly switch to Katkiss 4.3.1 v27 with split screen. That might be cool.
Katkiss V27 if you want split screen and easy swap between apps which I love. I have been running Team EOS and then Katkiss for over a year (when including both) and pretty much upgrading my rom weekly whenever a new nightly came out. The Katkiss 4.3 v25 and up has not only been the best rom I have ever used on this hardware, they have also been the most stable without a doubt and even overclocked. I think 25 has been the most stable ever but I have not done a factory reset in awhile. It may be awhile for v27 to be stable since some apps really have issues with split screen. I think it is more an issue with the apps and not the rom.
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Hi all, I have been happily on cm 4.1.2 for awhile because it has been stable and this is primarily a device for my kids. Lagfix and greenify have been wonderful for good performance.
What is your experience with 4.2.2 and 4.3? Is it worth going to 4.2.2 for performance and stability? I am old school and really like the lower only status bar in 4.1.2 which is gone after that from my knowledge. Perhaps there is an exposed framework change that gets the old interface back. Ha!
I was waiting to see what might happen with 4.3 since that performs better on all my devices including rezound. It looks pretty stable. Maybe I should go for that.
Any comments on path appreciated.
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Hi all, I have been happily on cm 4.1.2 for awhile because it has been stable and this is primarily a device for my kids. Lagfix and greenify have been wonderful for good performance.
What is your experience with 4.2.2 and 4.3? Is it worth going to 4.2.2 for performance and stability? I am old school and really like the lower only status bar in 4.1.2 which is gone after that from my knowledge. Perhaps there is an exposed framework change that gets the old interface back. Ha!
I was waiting to see what might happen with 4.3 since that performs better on all my devices including rezound. It looks pretty stable. Maybe I should go for that.
Any comments on path appreciated.
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I'd say that 4.2.2 and 4.3 aren't going to give you much in the way of performance, and may even perform worse. The problem is, there really are no drivers. The 4.2.2 and 4.3 ROMs are still using 4.1.x kernel code and 4.1 drivers, so I really don't think there's much to be gained other than being able to say you're on the latest version of Android. If 4.1.2 is working alright for you, I'd say to leave well enough alone.
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I'd say that 4.2.2 and 4.3 aren't going to give you much in the way of performance, and may even perform worse. The problem is, there really are no drivers. The 4.2.2 and 4.3 ROMs are still using 4.1.x kernel code and 4.1 drivers, so I really don't think there's much to be gained other than being able to say you're on the latest version of Android. If 4.1.2 is working alright for you, I'd say to leave well enough alone.
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Thank you. Glad to have confirmation that things are as good as they seem on 4.1.2. I know the size of the system partition is a real problem for newer builds.
Interesting in the way of performance though because I thought trim was built into 4.3. Also, when I moved on my rezound from 4.2.2 to 4.3....wow what a difference. I really have no reason to move off of that phone because it performs so well.
Say, what clocking do you run it at? I have seen that it runs well from 800 to 1500 Mhz on the top side.
All the best....
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Thank you. Glad to have confirmation that things are as good as they seem on 4.1.2. I know the size of the system partition is a real problem for newer builds.
Interesting in the way of performance though because I thought trim was built into 4.3. Also, when I moved on my rezound from 4.2.2 to 4.3....wow what a difference. I really have no reason to move off of that phone because it performs so well.
Say, what clocking do you run it at? I have seen that it runs well from 800 to 1500 Mhz on the top side.
All the best....
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My Xoom is running stock JZO54M/4.1.2 with a locked bootloader and no root. haha Clock speed is 1 GHz stock. Also, I think people are overblowing the trim in 4.3. Yes, it has auto-trim, but it just runs it sporadically. Plus, trimming only helps so much. Increased memory requirements isn't something trim will be able to get you out of.
Anyone else feel like after the update the phone is running sluggish? All I have is stock lollipop with twrp, root and Franco kernel. Seems like my kit kat was faster.... Also getting high ram usage, like 1.6 gb...
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Anyone else feel like after the update the phone is running sluggish? All I have is stock lollipop with twrp, root and Franco kernel. Seems like my kit kat was faster.... Also getting high ram usage, like 1.6 gb...
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might be your kernel. Stock rom+kernel combo runs quite fluid for the majority
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might be your kernel. Stock rom+kernel combo runs quite fluid for the majority
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Stock kernel you mean?
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yes, that's the combo i'm using right now and i see no lag whatsoever. I'm satisfied with stock that i even didn't speed up animations to x.5 , which i used to do on all android versions since Jelly Bean.
If you prefer custom kernels, i've had a great experience on kitkat with elementalX, haven't tried it on lollipop yet though.
I'm just saying that one of the changes you made is probably causing the sluggishness, it might not be Franco kernel, but that's a variable you can change for a start and see if there's any difference.
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yes, that's the combo i'm using right now and i see no lag whatsoever. I'm satisfied with stock that i even didn't speed up animations to x.5 , which i used to do on all android versions since Jelly Bean.
If you prefer custom kernels, i've had a great experience on kitkat with elementalX, haven't tried it on lollipop yet though.
I'm just saying that one of the changes you made is probably causing the sluggishness, it might not be Franco kernel, but that's a variable you can change for a start and see if there's any difference.
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Yeh I tried elemental but I was getting poor battery life. Decided to try franco,seems like the same thing except unstable. Sped up the kernel to 1479 or something like that,seems to be a little better now. Let's see I guess.
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Yeh I tried elemental but I was getting poor battery life. Decided to try franco,seems like the same thing except unstable. Sped up the kernel to 1479 or something like that,seems to be a little better now. Let's see I guess.
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the stock CPU clock for each core is 2.26GHz, so 1479 (1.4GHz) is quite a notable underclock, no wonder you are getting sluggish performance. it's like you have activated battery saving mode all the time.
Lollipop is a lot of things but sluggish is certainly not one of them. I'm running N5X which is an AOSP build of 5.0 and it's pretty great. Using the stock kernel with it, I don't like using custom kernels anymore.
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the stock CPU clock for each core is 2.26GHz, so 1479 (1.4GHz) is quite a notable underclock, no wonder you are getting sluggish performance. it's like you have activated battery saving mode all the time.
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It was set to 700 earlier which was even worse....seems to be a bit better now but I think I might go back to stock.
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Lollipop is a lot of things but sluggish is certainly not one of them. I'm running N5X which is an AOSP build of 5.0 and it's pretty great. Using the stock kernel with it, I don't like using custom kernels anymore.
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Yeh,probably going to go back to stock. Less headache for a daily driver.
I've had my phone for a while now, over a year. I've been extremely happy with it, so much so that I'll probably order another one.
My only complaint about the phone is I have found the performance to be getting worse.
I'm running the Carbon ROM, Android 4.42
CARBON-KK-NIGHTLY-20140529-1232, build date May 29, 2014.
The guy who does the simcard mod installed this and told me it was more stable than the Cryogen mods that everyone here seems to be using. What do you guys think?
Should I stay with this ROM, or should I switch to the Cryo? I read on another thread that someone downgraded to 10.2.1 and his phone's performance was a lot better.
Is there any other tweaks that can be done within the Android OS to improve performance? I'm a believer in enable only what you need.. I need, GPS, Data, Phone, Texting, Wifi. Not much else.. don't use too many apps.
Thoughts & comments appreciated.. Thanks
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There's an unofficial carbon build that's added some performance stuff to it - it allows you to use a faster file system (f2fs) and I think he's got zram support in there too. Plus it's a newer version of kitkat and all that. If I were in your position, I'd try that first cuz it's probably a smooth update. But who knows, 10.2 could be faster, I started with 11. There's also a modified kernel that allows you to overclock from the standard 1.5GHz all the way up to 1.89GHz, as well as underclock I think to save battery, although never looked closely into that myself or exactly which roms it'll work with but I think any official CM11, but you couldn't use it with f2fs as that has to be in kernel.