[Q] [Help] [Question] Razr V soft-bricked - General Questions and Answers

I flashed an unofficial cm 10.1 port for the razr v on slot 1 in BMM without making a nandroid backup (stupid, I know) on JB 4.1 with a locked boot loader and it wouldn't boot into CM. I wiped cache and data and it still didn't work. I tried flashing other Roms in slot 3, didn't work. I erased the CID without backing it up (bad mistake after bad mistake:crying as well. Then I had it connected to rsd lite and tried to flash an ICS SBF which obviously didn't work(failed check or something, no flashing occurred) and I exited the program even though it warned me that it would mess something up. Now I get an error and can't even get to the recovery anymore. And the battery has died (non-removable). Now I was thinking I should flash the JB 4.1 Chinese SBF for this phone but I would need a motorola factory cable. What should I do? ( Ik I posted this before, but no one has replied).

Leafs99 said:
I flashed an unofficial cm 10.1 port for the razr v on slot 1 in BMM without making a nandroid backup (stupid, I know) on JB 4.1 with a locked boot loader and it wouldn't boot into CM. I wiped cache and data and it still didn't work. I tried flashing other Roms in slot 3, didn't work. I erased the CID without backing it up (bad mistake after bad mistake:crying as well. Then I had it connected to rsd lite and tried to flash an ICS SBF which obviously didn't work(failed check or something, no flashing occurred) and I exited the program even though it warned me that it would mess something up. Now I get an error and can't even get to the recovery anymore. And the battery has died (non-removable). Now I was thinking I should flash the JB 4.1 Chinese SBF for this phone but I would need a motorola factory cable. What should I do? ( Ik I posted this before, but no one has replied).
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Sorry for late answer. But, yes you'll need Motorola factory cable to bypass battery check.
1. You'll need to reflash stock JB with RSD.
2. Then reboot your phone (screen turns black) you'll need to press both vol buttons, bootmenu will appear.
3. Then with voldown choose bp tool & select it with volup. You'll boot to android.
4. Then you'll need to root your phone with Razr rooting stuff.
5. Then rooting program reboot your phone (screen turns black) you'll need press both vol buttons & choose with vol down bp tools & select with vol up.
6. Then you'll be rooted install Boot Menu Manager from Play Store. BMM have 2ndinit so you wont need to start phone with BP tool anymore.
To try fix CustomerID error completely you should refer to this post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406867

Actually, battery IS removable, albeit u'll need a very smalle torx screwdriver (m4 or m5 if my memory is correct). But that still won't do much good since even if it's out, there no easy way to recharge it. Although if you have a scrap battery just to get the connector and have some soldering skills, you can redneck up yourself some AA batteries in a project battery holder and solder the leads to the scrapped battery's connector to at least pass the batt check. As for the softbrick though, i'm used to motorola phones yet, i've mostly fiddled with soft and hard bricked samsungs and my own LG optimus g E971, so i might not be much help on that side YET. But i DO have a razr xt885 here that belonged to a friend of mine which had the great idea of trying to fit his microSIM in there cause he was too eager to get the phone started and didn't wanna wait for me to have time to check everything out and unlock the carrier on the phone so he could use it... So now the SIM holder on the board is dead cause he ripped out the metal contacts trying to pull out his microSIM from there........ Phone still turns on though and software has not been modified in any way and everything works except for the SIM holder, so if you need backups or files from a working model, i can definetly help you there. Only thing i don't have anymore is the stock USB wire cause that one got hacked up later on to be used as a USB jig... but the battery and software are all good and i have plenty of microUSB wires to connect phones here. Plus i also live in the province just east of you So it's still a few hours drive but if all else fails and you feel like a roadtrip to Quebec, i'd be happy to help in any way possible Just let me know if you need anything

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[HELP]Bricked?

Hi, i've a big big problem...
I am in the situation that my battery's dead, defy won't boot and rds lite won't work.....
I'm trying the "McGyver trick" for recharge the battery and it works, now what should i do in order to keep my defy working?
Wich rom can i flash with RDS ?
Please i've tried with 3 or 4 but phone won't boot! My previous stock rom was a 2.51 (90% sure)...
You need to to enter stock recovery and do a full wipe. Then enter bootloader and flash any sbf of your choice. Always read the instructions well. Some are not downgrade-able
are u in us?
Take one of the new froyo sbfs. Maybe 177 Deblur, and flash it. By then your phone would be charged. You cannot startup yet. Wait till flashing is done.
Then pull battery. Connect phone to wall charger (not usb port charger). Wait for 10mins. Now turn on phone and then hold volume down. Enter recovery complete wipe and then let it reboot.
You should be good to go. But remember that you cannot get back to 2.51 or 2.21 series. Anyway your phone will be good and then you can enjoy further modding instead of returning to eclair 2.1.
Ok, i've flashed the t-mobile one, i need it only for root->recovery->MIUI, i don't care about wich version is
Now i have a problem, i think i've damaged the battery, it doesent been recognized and charghed (? symbol) and when i boot up it gives me a "cool down battery" message and powers off... i think i must replace it with a new one... i hope isn't an hardware problem...
Some people went on using the Mcguyver trick and end up battery damaged, and this might happened in your case too. Try a friend's battery first before you jump out getting a new battery. Next time you should connect to at least a 100Kohms resistor to lower down the voltage before injecting direct to your battery when performing the trick.
I've not friends with a defy i've ordered it on ebay, should arrive in 2 days...
Anyway i think let it charge with this method for less 15 minutes can't damage it, and gives the needed power to flash with rds lite.
Now my battery has a red X on the top, i think i've fused it! XP Let's see what happens with a new one
Now a question: Wich is the most simply rootable rom i can flash with RDS?
Maybe an European one for warrancy prouposes?
Now i've the leaked T-Mobile, 2.2.2 i think

[Q] Defy won't charge!!! Why???

Ok guys, here I am - finally.
This forum is my last chance as I am going mental trying to find a solution to this issue searching the internet.
My Defy won't charge!!!
It won't charge from a socket, not form the PC via USB.
And It's not the hardware failure, 100% sure.
Now,
Imagine you have a rooted defy with original stock rom.
Everything is fine and you never experienced any real problems with the phone apart from freezing maybe but this is nothing (just uninstall all the unnecessary crap and you'll be fine).
Anyway you decided to play with custom roms, and as this is you first time you do two very important things: back up you current rom and back up all you apps using Titanium Backup.
You also have clockworkmod recovery.
Now,
Here where the problem started - I download new ROM using Rom Manager but when I tried to install it I was given a message: The phone will be turned off and instalation will continue in recovery mode. And when I pressed yes nothing happened.
Next I did the most stupidest thing ever - I installed 2ndinit recovery and THAT'S IT - after reboot - no sign of life whatsoever. I am still asking myself why on Earth I did that.
Oh no, I can get to bootloader but it is saying that battery low cannot program.
I can also get to android recovery mode but this is not clockworkmod recovery and there is no option for restore. I only can wipe cache and restore to factory state but it does not help.
I was trying to get into RSD solution but PHONE IS DEAD, CAN'T DO THAT!
ANY SUGGESTION, I do not want to believe that this is the end for the great handset.
Anything anybody......???????????????????????
Can you see the device when it's connected to a computer? Then you should be able to flash clockwork recovery again using adb. Follow the 'Installing bootmenu & the ClockworkMod Recovery' instructions on the Cyanogenmod wiki / Defy full update guide.
Then you can restore your backed up ROM.
Actually It's not detected by PC just because battery is dead.
So when I get it charged somehow I certainly will try that. Thanks
It won't charge even when the phone is powered off? Have you tried a different USB cable? Maybe you know someone else with a Defy that you can swap batteries with. Or get one of those external battery chargers. It's starting to sound more like a hardware problem, then a software problem with your ROM.

Stuck on red M - Dual Core Logo

Hello, i recently bought a xoom (wifi only) and now im in a quite frustrating situation.
When i got it first i flashed CWM recovery and rooted it successfully, it worked all fine for a few days.
yesterday i left the xoom on charger over night and today morning it was stuck on the red M logo saying "Dual Core Technology".
well, my situation is like:
- i can restart the xoom using power + volume up, but every time it stucks on the M logo again
- i can boot into RSD with volume up while starting
- i can boot into fastboot with volume down while starting
- i can NOT boot into recovery, when i try it gets stuck at "Reading ODM fuse: 1"
i reflashed the original ROM from MOTODEV, but the device still behaves the same like before..
normal boot gets stuck at the M logo, recovery gets stuck on Reading ODM fuse: 1, just fastboot working fine (unlocking & flashing works fine)
i also searched for similar problems on the forums, but any promising solution links to filesonic links wich are not working/down
any ideas what i can do now? any help is appreciated
thanks
unlock the bootloader and flash Rogue Recovery v1.3.0
then try to enter cwm
are u on stock? or customrom? and have u tried to lock the bootloader using a customrom? cauz locking the bootloader with customrom = not good
hi, thanks for your reply.
im on stock rom and my bootloader is unlocked. i did relock the bootloader once, but only after flashing the original ROM from MOTODEV to my device, now it is unlocked again.
i first flashed the CWM 3.2.0.0 wich is available as .img via fastboot, but it does not start (Stuck on "Reading ODM Fuse: 1").
now i flashed the recovery.img inside of Rogue Recovery 1.3.0 (since i read in the corresponding thread that it works also this way), but again: Stuck on "Reading ODM Fuse: 1"
Maybe u r 2 quick? Turn on your xoom - if u see the M wait 3 sec then press vol down and then vol up
But as i said wait 3 secs - if u r 2 quick it will stuck at entering recovery
okay, so you flashed a new recovery image (did you verify the images md5-sum?) and without trying to reboot into android you cannot get into recovery? That is really odd.
If so, I suspect that something has really screwed up your internal memory. You might be able to fix it using a factory cable.
Btw: after flashing the recovery image, does the xoom say that it succeeded in writing the recovery image to its memory?
There should be a command to reboot the device to recovery? A function reboot to recovery is possible on eos 1.0 maybe theres a adb or fastboot command 4 that?
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okay, so you flashed a new recovery image (did you verify the images md5-sum?) and without trying to reboot into android you cannot get into recovery? That is really odd.
If so, I suspect that something has really screwed up your internal memory. You might be able to fix it using a factory cable.
Btw: after flashing the recovery image, does the xoom say that it succeeded in writing the recovery image to its memory?
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after flashing the recovery, i can read
"Flashing StorMgr partition recovery STATUS: done!" on the xoom
the recovery image is fine, and until today i was able to boot into CWM 3.2.0.0
what is the thing with the factory cable?
about the factory cable: seems to be a modified usb-cable with two terminals on the micro-usb end being connected with each other. As far as I read, it should enable you to write to the xooms memory as long as the hardware is still okay, no matter how much you f***ed up your software I haven't had to use yet, though.
@what Unholy said: sure, adb reboot recovery will boot your xoom into recovery, but only if you have a working android running and usb-debugging enabled.
Reading ODM Fuse: 1, according to my information, means that the thing is trying to boot into recovery. Why nothing else shows up: I have no clue.
here is a thread where some us-users had a similar problem. They tried to root their xoom after getting the 4g-upgrade and ended up with the red M-Logo. After some screwing around, they even managed to wreck the fastboot-mode, thus only enabling rsd access. So no help on that side.
What especially bothers me about your problem is that it just appeared on its own. Right before your xoom showed its issues, you weren't flashing anything. Just charging shouldn't cause any of this.
I am beginning to suspect a hardware failure that can naturally be only fixed by motorola. But that's only my current opinion.
If I was you, I would try downloading the files from motorola again, check their md5-sums and then flash those using fastboot using these instructions.
If that still doesn't help, there may be a way to get a .sbf file from motorola for your xoom. That is a file which can be flashed using the windows software rsd-lite, but I haven't used that in a long time and it has been reported to not work really well with the xoom.
Next, I'd research a little on the factory cable thing, but I'd be careful with that.
As a last resort, I'd send the xoom to my dealer. Unluckily, there is a way to determine if you have had your bootloader unlocked, at least as long as fastboot is still working...
About the factory cable - with that cable u can flash your xoom if nothing else is working anymore (adb or cwm)
To build a factory cable u have to tie pin 1 (+) to pin 4 on the micro usb plug
I build one but never used it and hope i will never have to
i did download the original ROM from motodev again, checked the md5, and flashed according to the tutorial posted by llama-power, but the device still wont boot neither the rom nor into recovery.
since its now on 15% battery i think i will let it run out of power and then try to boot again...
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i did download the original ROM from motodev again, checked the md5, and flashed according to the tutorial posted by llama-power, but the device still wont boot neither the rom nor into recovery.
since its now on 15% battery i think i will let it run out of power and then try to boot again...
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does the xoom charge when connected to ac power? I know that other devices (cellphones) wouldn't charge without working os.
However, I do not think that letting the battery run low will help you. Lithium ion batteries should not be low discharged as that will most likely destroy them and lead to a massive risk of explosion upon the next charge. Because of that, devices powered by a lithium ion battery will power down before depleting the battery, the xooms mainboard itself will most likely still be supplied with some power.
If you really want to cut the power supply to the mainboard, you'll have to open the xoom (two screws) and unplug the battery (the connector is held down by another two screws) for a couple of seconds. (here is a teardown of the xoom with pictures)
by the way, if you want to track your battery status without booting android (as that would obviously not work), you can use fastboot getvar battery-status.
well my xoom actually charges when i connect it to power, and the LED also lights up, so (thinking of what you said) it seems like the os and everything still is present, just like the bootloader cant load it or something?! is there maybe any way to update the bootloader itself?
yeah, i can also check the battery status when i'm booting with power and volume up (RSD) =)
well i'm actually thinking about disconnecting the battery, but i'm a bit unsure, i will study that now..
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well my xoom actually charges when i connect it to power, and the LED also lights up, so (thinking of what you said) it seems like the os and everything still is present, just like the bootloader cant load it or something?!
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not neccessarily. Maybe the xoom just doesn't need any software to charge the battery.
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is there maybe any way to update the bootloader itself?
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don't know, but since fastboot works I suspect that the bootloader itself is still fine.
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well i'm actually thinking about disconnecting the battery, but i'm a bit unsure, i will study that now..
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have fun, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too high. I still suspect some sort of a hardware failure... Also, opening the device might leave some traces (botched screws, etc) that could lead motorola to say that you messed with your xoom if you should finally decide to send it in
well thats the same i thought about opening the device..
do you know any way to dump the partitions to the pc (maybe with fastboot?)
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do you know any way to dump the partitions to the pc (maybe with fastboot?)
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nope, not without a working recovery.
fastboot erase partition_name should be able to clear your partitions, though. Replace partition_name with boot, system, userdata, cache or recovery
http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/xoo...ery-stuck-red-m-logo-fastboot-works-help.html
apparently that user seems to have had the same problem, he says he fixed it using 1.35 Everest Bootloader (SBF).
i also had that idea some time earlier and found a thread with the SBF files here on xda, also for the wifi model, but the only links i could find to SBF files were filesonic links wich are not working ._.
i'm now up to googling for SBF files (for the wifi only model), if i cant find anything promising i'll send it back tomorrow.
btw, erasing the partitions does not help, i've already tried that
Have u done the lte update?
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Have u done the lte update?
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he's got an wifi-only model (as stated in post #1) and is from germany (at least that's what his location and flag says). LTE upgrade is neither available in germany, nor for wifi-only-xooms. So I'd say no
@OP: that sounds quite promising. .sbf-files still seem to be available on some sites, downloading one for my xoom right now, just in case that site goes down in the future...
Yes he got the wifi version like me but something must happened ,-)
I also charge my xoom and nothing happens. He got wifi version but he maybe flashed a false update or so
There r people flashing stingray instead of the wingray version etc. - just asking what happened before - thats the reason - something must happened before ;-)
it seemed promising, but i cannot find any usable sbf file
i think i'll send the unit back tomorrow

Did I hard brick?

Okay so I tried searching everywhere for a solution and I didn't find anything.
So this is what happened, I was on ICS leak 4.0.4 ICS.672.1.13.en.03 then I tried to Fxz to AT&T 2.3.5 InlineFlashing_edison_5.5.175.16_cfc_p3_APBP_CID28 5.zip and it got stuck at 5/20 saying "Rebooting bootloader" the screen stayed black for a long time, so I clicked close and this is where all this happened. My phone doesn't turn on, not even Fastboot, when I plug it into the charger it doesn't do anything, but when I plug it into my laptop without battery the white led turns on but still it doesn't do anything, the laptop doesn't detect anything and when I press the buttons it doesn't react nor do anything. I don't know anymore what to do, I bought this overseas so I have no warranty and it's not an AT&T phone. If anyone went through this, I really don't know what to do.. I know it's not softbrick as I can see it. I'll be very thankful if there is a solution, but my hopes are really down..
I know I read all the guides, it said "Don't pull battery or unplug. So I didn't unplug or remove battery, I just clicked close. I really didn't know this could happend. Didn't see it in any thread or post that you can't Fxz from 4.0.4 to AT&T 2.3.5, I only followed the steps from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779968
I don't want this to happen to anyone.
Wrong thread! sorry... check your PMs darkmixta!
I made the same mistake
darkmixta said:
Okay so I tried searching everywhere for a solution and I didn't find anything.
So this is what happened, I was on ICS leak 4.0.4 ICS.672.1.13.en.03 then I tried to Fxz to AT&T 2.3.5 InlineFlashing_edison_5.5.175.16_cfc_p3_APBP_CID28 5.zip and it got stuck at 5/20 saying "Rebooting bootloader" the screen stayed black for a long time, so I clicked close and this is where all this happened. My phone doesn't turn on, not even Fastboot, when I plug it into the charger it doesn't do anything, but when I plug it into my laptop without battery the white led turns on but still it doesn't do anything, the laptop doesn't detect anything and when I press the buttons it doesn't react nor do anything. I don't know anymore what to do, I bought this overseas so I have no warranty and it's not an AT&T phone. If anyone went through this, I really don't know what to do.. I know it's not softbrick as I can see it. I'll be very thankful if there is a solution, but my hopes are really down..
I know I read all the guides, it said "Don't pull battery or unplug. So I didn't unplug or remove battery, I just clicked close. I really didn't know this could happend. Didn't see it in any thread or post that you can't Fxz from 4.0.4 to AT&T 2.3.5, I only followed the steps from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779968
I don't want this to happen to anyone.
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I made the same mistake, any way to repair my phone? Thanks a lot...
maqndon said:
I made the same mistake, any way to repair my phone? Thanks a lot...
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THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY TO FXZ BACK FROM ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805975
You are totally bricked, no way out, sorry, you need a new phone.
jimbridgman said:
THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY TO FXZ BACK FROM ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805975
You are totally bricked, no way out, sorry, you need a new phone.
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I was thinking about Motorola factory cable, if it would do something?
I read in some thread that it forces Motorola to go in fastboot mode http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/146492-how-why-make-your-own-motorola-factory-cable.html
What's very interesting is that the phone definitely knows that it is not in the presence of mere mortals when you use a Factory Cable. The phone knows it is in the presence of Moto gods as it boot differently than normal. Some phones like the Motorola Napoleon actually come right out and say "Factory Cable Connected". Other phones will boot straight to the bootloader for flashing. The various Droids appear to boot normally until you notice that there is no USB connected indicator at the top (once the OS is up) and that the host computer doesn't register all the usual devices. Instead the host computer only registers the bare minimum interfaces needed for RadioComm, RSD Lite, etc. to be able to talk to the phone. This in and of itself simplifies things as you don't have to monkey with setting the phone to the right mode (e.g. "PC Mode") -- it is automatically in the right mode for flashing.
Another interesting thing that is allegedly possible with the Factory Cable is that with the battery removed, it is possible to access some diagnostic pads on the main board of the phone, that when shorted (before connecting the Factory Cable) will boot the phone in a special recovery mode to help recover bricked phones. I say "allegedly" because thus far we've not had much luck with this, and our information is that it may only apply to unsecured phones anyway -- not secured consumer phones. Running around shorting things randomly inside your phone is a very bad idea unless you are willing to risk the phone, your computer, or both -- but sometimes things must die in the name of science -- but again I digress.
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Factory Cable
I made this cable yesterday and nothing... when i connect the phone into PC the white light turn on for less than a second then turn off. The PC don't recognize the phone in Linux neither Windows.
I believe that i made the cable right but i'm not a 100% sure.
white led is also an indication battery out of power. Do try connecting wall charger for a while and see if that brings up the power.
The bootloader is what controls the phone at this level. If the bootloader is corrupted the phone is hard bricked and the only way to fix it would be to jtag flash a working bootloader.
jboxer said:
The bootloader is what controls the phone at this level. If the bootloader is corrupted the phone is hard bricked and the only way to fix it would be to jtag flash a working bootloader.
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But how is the bootloader corrupted if it was stuck at rebooting bootloader? Motorola got a very strange flashing thing...
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But how is the bootloader corrupted if it was stuck at rebooting bootloader? Motorola got a very strange flashing thing...
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Your bootloader is not corrupted, you hard bricked because you tried to flash a bootloader that is a lower version. There is code in the BL to not allow that, that is one of a few things that will actually brick this phone.
jimbridgman said:
Your bootloader is not corrupted, you hard bricked because you tried to flash a bootloader that is a lower version. There is code in the BL to not allow that, that is one of a few things that will actually brick this phone.
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If the phone still has the new bootloader and it is not corrupted then why are these phones hard bricked? The Android boot sequence starts with the bootloader when the power key is pressed. During the bootloader process it initilaizes the hardware using init.rc and init.<machine_name>.rc and then it looks for keys being pressed to run fastboot, recovery, etc and in the absence of that will attempt to boot up the Android system. So did RSD wipe the kernel and then when it got stuck on the flashing the downgraded bootloader (many phones don't allow this) was the kernel not reflashed yet? Or is there no init.rc and init.<machine_name>.rc for the bootloader to initiize the hardware? If the phone still has a valid bootloader, kernel and init files it should boot so that fastboot can be run. What got wiped that is preventing the phone from booting? When hard bricked phones are resurrected with a jtag flash often it is just a valid bootloader or bootloader and kernel that are flashed that allow the phone to be booted into fastboot or recovery so a valid rom can be flashed.The bootloader is also what handles charging the phone when you charge a phone that has been turned off, so if a valid bootloader and kernel are present when you plug in the charger you should see the charging sequence. Just curious what got so messed up that the bootloader is not even booting to a point where fastboot can be run and the phone doesn't respond to a charger.
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If the phone still has the new bootloader and it is not corrupted then why are these phones hard bricked? The Android boot sequence starts with the bootloader when the power key is pressed. During the bootloader process it initilaizes the hardware using init.rc and init.<machine_name>.rc and then it looks for keys being pressed to run fastboot, recovery, etc and in the absence of that will attempt to boot up the Android system. So did RSD wipe the kernel and then when it got stuck on the flashing the downgraded bootloader (many phones don't allow this) was the kernel not reflashed yet? Or is there no init.rc and init.<machine_name>.rc for the bootloader to initiize the hardware? If the phone still has a valid bootloader, kernel and init files it should boot so that fastboot can be run. What got wiped that is preventing the phone from booting? When hard bricked phones are resurrected with a jtag flash often it is just a valid bootloader or bootloader and kernel that are flashed that allow the phone to be booted into fastboot or recovery so a valid rom can be flashed.The bootloader is also what handles charging the phone when you charge a phone that has been turned off, so if a valid bootloader and kernel are present when you plug in the charger you should see the charging sequence. Just curious what got so messed up that the bootloader is not even booting to a point where fastboot can be run and the phone doesn't respond to a charger.
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This is similar to what has been done here with our phone:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-at-it-again-locks-down-atrix-4g-even-more/
It is just like the atrix 4G situation.
What Moto has done with the A0.72 bootloader is that it will not allow you to flash back to the A0.65 bootloader once the A0.72 has been flashed to the device. What it does is blows one of the 3 efuses that allows the phone to boot to the mbmloader (moto's bootloader loader).
That is why we now have a modified fxz that will flash all of the fxz minus the bootloder. So you will be on GB, but still have the latest BL A0.72.
Moto has 3 layers of the bootloader itself and all 3 are signed with the same root CA, the very last one is the one that actually loads the kernel, and the issue with these bricks is that the 2nd layer of the bootloader mbmloader that is what these people that have bricked after flashing, was the mbmloader that allowed you to "load"/flash the mbm.bin for A0.65 and that tripped the efuse that turns the 1st layer BL off, so no charging either.
Moto seems to have gotten real nasty to to us Devs as of late, and why most of us in here are saying this will be our last MOTO phone.
P.S. so far even JTAG has not been ale to resurrect some of these bricks. I was at an AT&T repair facility the other day (yes I have full access to the back area) and we played with one of the reported ICS leak bricked phones and it would not even see that the phone was connected to the JTAG box. There was another phone that was also a "hard brick" that was not from the same leak that was a GB phone and it connected right up to the JTAG box without issue.
jimbridgman said:
This is similar to what has been done here with our phone:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-at-it-again-locks-down-atrix-4g-even-more/
It is just like the atrix 4G situation.
What Moto has done with the A0.72 bootloader is that it will not allow you to flash back to the A0.65 bootloader once the A0.72 has been flashed to the device. What it does is blows one of the 3 efuses that allows the phone to boot to the mbmloader (moto's bootloader loader).
That is why we now have a modified fxz that will flash all of the fxz minus the bootloder. So you will be on GB, but still have the latest BL A0.72.
Moto has 3 layers of the bootloader itself and all 3 are signed with the same root CA, the very last one is the one that actually loads the kernel, and the issue with these bricks is that the 2nd layer of the bootloader mbmloader that was these people that have bricked with was the mbmloader that allowed you to "load"/flash the mbm.bin for A0.65 and that tripped the efuse that turns the 1st layer BL off, so no charging either.
Moto seems to have gotten real nasty to to us Devs as of late, and why most of us in here are saying this will be our last MOTO phone.
P.S. so far even JTAG has not been ale to resurrect some of these bricks. I was at an AT&T repair facility the other day (yes I have full access to the back area) and we played with one of the reported ICS leak bricked phones and it would not even see that the phone was connected to the JTAG box. There was another phone that was also a "hard brick" that was not from the same leak that was a GB phone and it connected right up to the JTAG box without issue.
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That's definitely a strange situation. Jtag talks directly to the cpu and the nand flash so no matter how hard the phone is bricked it should be able to be accessed via jtag. I guess the moto efuses are operating at a very low level? Kind of crappy to put that in there that renders a device unusable. People are going to run out of phones to buy. On the LG-P999 forum many people swore off LG due to lack of updates and not being able to get hardware drivers from LG or Nvidia. At least with the Nvidia chip the P999 is virtually unbrickable as recovery and bootloader can be flashed at a very low level using Nvidia tools (bootloader is not even run to flash at this level). Phones that get the most updates are Nexus branded phones but I personally will never buy a Samsung device again. They have bad hardware code in their EMMC chips and there is a rash of Nexus S devices bricking themselves during an OTA flash or factory reset when the EMMC is issued an erase command. The bad code corrupts the EMMC during the erase and renders the device bricked beyond any repair. It only happens sometimes and when it does Samsung cannot even flash them again. So I guess that just leaves HTC. Now that Google owns Motorola future Moto models may become Nexus devices. I personally prefer Moto phones but I have not hard bricked mine yet. Since I bought it second hand and am in Thailand I have been very cautious and have done very little modding to it and decided to wait (thankfully) for the official OTA release. I almost flashed the leak and glad I waited. Thanks for the explanation as to why they are perma-bricked.
This is exactly happened to my phone.
I was up on the first ICS leak, rooted and everything working great! I tried installer a font and it rebooted as normal but then stalled at the "Rethink Possible" screen. After pulling the battery and starting all over, I attempted to start the ICS process again, starting with going back to 2.3.5 (Yes, this is where I went wrong!)
The darn thing is literally a brick right now.
I wish I would have left it alone....
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This is exactly happened to my phone.
I was up on the first ICS leak, rooted and everything working great! I tried installer a font and it rebooted as normal but then stalled at the "Rethink Possible" screen. After pulling the battery and starting all over, I attempted to start the ICS process again, starting with going back to 2.3.5 (Yes, this is where I went wrong!)
The darn thing is literally a brick right now.
I wish I would have left it alone....
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Yes, you hard bricked it and there is nothing you can do to fix it. There were many warning about this posted with the leak and in other threads. Sorry to hear that you killed your phone. :crying:
Technically, if you were on the FIRST leak, you should be able to fxz back.
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Technically, if you were on the FIRST leak, you should be able to fxz back.
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Yea, but he would have had to read the forums and fxz back using the custom script to prevent downgrading the baseband and bricking.

Having the oddest problems. Fear a brick.

I am on a Verizon Razr Maxx HD (xt926). This all started when I decided to cleanly flash the newest version of CM10.2. I had been running it before. I wanted to start from a blank slate, so I went into TWRP and did the format wipe. Installed the newest CM10.2 nightly and gapps. This went fine and I booted into the ROM and started recovering all of my stuff. I installed F-droid and AdAway, and rebooted for that. The phone never got past the Bootloader Unlocked warning screen. I turned it off and went into TWRP to try some things. I tried to fix permissions, but it failed, referencing something to do with fdroid. I wiped again and reinstalled CM, but I still couldn't get past the Bootloader Unlocked warning.
I booted into TWRP again and wiped what I could, and accidentally wiped my external SD, and I had no card readers lying around to get the ROM zips back onto it. I downloaded the Razr HD utility, used the batch file, and tried to flash the stock rom through fastboot, but it got stuck in some kind of loop and would not flash correctly. I then tried to do it manually, but got some sort of buffer error. I tried again, and it started ok but I never saw it actually finish flashing.
By this time I finagled the ROM zips onto the SD card and stopped the fastboot and booted into TWRP. I did another set of wipes, and rebooted into TWRP again. I flashed the CM and Gapps. The ROM booted fine from TWRP and I was able to start setting up my account again. I tried rebooting after the initial setup just to see if it was working correctly, and was met with the fastboot screen with fastboot reason: Flash failed. I rebooted into TWRP from there, and tried to boot normally, but it still brought me to the fastboot. I went to the boot menu and tried the normal boot selection, and now my phone is stuck on the Bootloader Warning screen and now it won't even turn off when I hold the power button.
I have no idea what is going on, or why I could get to the working ROM once but not again. Does anyone know anything that could help me?
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I am on a Verizon Razr Maxx HD (xt926). This all started when I decided to cleanly flash the newest version of CM10.2. I had been running it before. I wanted to start from a blank slate, so I went into TWRP and did the format wipe. Installed the newest CM10.2 nightly and gapps. This went fine and I booted into the ROM and started recovering all of my stuff. I installed F-droid and AdAway, and rebooted for that. The phone never got past the Bootloader Unlocked warning screen. I turned it off and went into TWRP to try some things. I tried to fix permissions, but it failed, referencing something to do with fdroid. I wiped again and reinstalled CM, but I still couldn't get past the Bootloader Unlocked warning.
I booted into TWRP again and wiped what I could, and accidentally wiped my external SD, and I had no card readers lying around to get the ROM zips back onto it. I downloaded the Razr HD utility, used the batch file, and tried to flash the stock rom through fastboot, but it got stuck in some kind of loop and would not flash correctly. I then tried to do it manually, but got some sort of buffer error. I tried again, and it started ok but I never saw it actually finish flashing.
By this time I finagled the ROM zips onto the SD card and stopped the fastboot and booted into TWRP. I did another set of wipes, and rebooted into TWRP again. I flashed the CM and Gapps. The ROM booted fine from TWRP and I was able to start setting up my account again. I tried rebooting after the initial setup just to see if it was working correctly, and was met with the fastboot screen with fastboot reason: Flash failed. I rebooted into TWRP from there, and tried to boot normally, but it still brought me to the fastboot. I went to the boot menu and tried the normal boot selection, and now my phone is stuck on the Bootloader Warning screen and now it won't even turn off when I hold the power button.
I have no idea what is going on, or why I could get to the working ROM once but not again. Does anyone know anything that could help me?
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Try the solution in the last few posts on this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465695
I hope you get more knowledgeable advice than mine but, were I in your situation, my primary goal would be to get back to STOCK. Forget CM and modding for now. Either through TWRP or through the recovery settings on the phone itself I'd get to where I could do a factory reset. If you're continuously able to boot into TWRP I don't see how your phone could be bricked. My experience is, if I can get a phone to do ANYTHING I've got a shot at figuring out how to get out of whatever mess I've created. I don't know if this could be a factor but I'd put in a different micro SD card too, in case there's something on the card you've got in there.
Just an update. So, I got it to go back to fastboot this morning and I tried using the Razr Utility to flash back stock and stock recovery, but I got a "Failed" line with the reason "Remote Failure". Not sure what that's about. When it reset it got back to the Cyanogenmod boot graphic, but it never started. I left it there for a good 12 minutes.
Right now it's sitting in TWRP. I'm going to let it charge to 100% (it was a little less when I tried all of this) and attempt it again at 100% battery. Thanks for the help so far!
So, I tried using the Razr Utility to flash the system, kernel, radio and for system it was unsuccessful (something about too many threads or strings, something to that effect), but the rest said OK. Now my phone doesn't seem to turn on. My computer still makes the device plugged in sound when it's plugged/unplugged, but I cannot get the screen to show anything or seem to turn on the phone.
Is this it? Is it... bricked!? ;-;
Edit: I ordered the Factory Adapter as a last resort sort of thing. This is lame.
Edit Edit: I've seen the boot logo since my last edit! But... it's not coming back and I still can't even bring up the bootloader. I don't know why it will sometimes turn on or sometimes not. In any case, I'm now hopeful that not ALL is lost.
Bottom line, the adapter will allow you to fix your phone and flash the stock FXZ in RSD Lite or fastboot and get back to a clean slate and start over.
That's why we went to the trouble of making them!
cellzealot said:
Bottom line, the adapter will allow you to fix your phone and flash the stock FXZ in RSD Lite or fastboot and get back to a clean slate and start over.
That's why we went to the trouble of making them!
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That's the plan! One odd thing happening now... My phone's screen isn't showing anything, so I assumed it was off. I left it unplugged and went to see a movie..... and the phone is still warm. This leads me to believe the phone is still drawing power, for some reason... God this is weird. I'll wait for the adapter and try again. Thanks for the help!
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Bottom line, the adapter will allow you to fix your phone and flash the stock FXZ in RSD Lite or fastboot and get back to a clean slate and start over.
That's why we went to the trouble of making them!
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according to the packaging on mine from tbh a chinaman made it, just sayin
Yes, we designed them and contracted through our US supplier who produced all of our cables who, in turn, had them produced in China according to our specifications. There is no longer any injection molded plastic production done in the US that can work at this small scale for affordable rates.
Sorry...that's the way the world works these days.
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Yes, we designed them and contracted through our US supplier who produced all of our cables who, in turn, had them produced in China according to our specifications. There is no longer any injection molded plastic production done in the US that can work at this small scale for affordable rates.
Sorry...that's the way the world works these days.
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thanks for making it either way, better to have and not need.
havent had to use it so far
bweN diorD said:
thanks for making it either way, better to have and not need.
havent had to use it so far
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You're welcome! They are definitely the best $10 investment you can make in any Motorola phone.
Next time you want to invest many thousands of dollars of your own money in a wild, hairbrained scheme to help a bunch of anonymous people on the internet fix their phones that they recently finished destroying themselves, let us know...we have just the plan!
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You're welcome! They are definitely the best $10 investment you can make in any Motorola phone.
Next time you want to invest many thousands of dollars of your own money in a wild, hairbrained scheme to help a bunch of anonymous people on the internet fix their phones that they recently finished destroying themselves, let us know...we have just the plan!
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how many thousands, and whats the plan?
I got the Factory Adapter and used RSD Lite to flash stock. And it works! Yay! It's starting up reliably and everything.
Except... it won't start up without the cable attached, and the battery icon has a big question mark on it. It also won't connect to the cell network (but does connect to WiFi). What do I do now?
Edit: So I noticed that while the battery status said "Unknown", it did go from 2% to 3% charge level when I plugged it in normally for a little. My plan at the moment is to try leaving it plugged in for a while and then try taking the OTA update to see if that fixes everything. Good plan?
Edit Edit: Never mind! I just had to let it charge for a bit. It seems to be back in working order, now! Thank you so much for all the help everyone!
That is exactly what is supposed to happen. Congrats on fixing your phone!
The factory cable/adapter does not charge the device but powers it directly, allowing it to boot no matter what state the battery is in or even without a battery at all.
You cannot charge in bootloader, which is why the cable/adapter is so valuable. Once the device can boot/charge normally then you are all set.

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