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[Q] question about android and hardware compatibility

hi, first of all im not english natal, so, sorry for my english
Now, i have a question, is anyware out there a place where i can find phones that are android standard, android hardware friendly, android certified or something like that?
im asking becouse i hace a galaxy ace and it have camera drivers problems with ICS

pani_alex said:
hi, first of all im not english natal, so, sorry for my english
Now, i have a question, is anyware out there a place where i can find phones that are android standard, android hardware friendly, android certified or something like that?
im asking becouse i hace a galaxy ace and it have camera drivers problems with ICS
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The galaxy ace doesn't have official ics so I'm guessing you mean you have a custom android rom on it?
Android ics is very different to earlier versions so the reason for your problem is likely due to the driver not being designed for the version you now use.
The only pure android devices are those that google are involved with, specifically the nexus products so they would be your best bet as other companies add lots of other things to android.
You could go for a higher end model such as Samsungs S2 or S3 which although not pure android are supported better by rom makers and have drivers that work better in ics due to their having more community support and being flagship phones for that company.
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thanks for the answer, i have cyanogenmod 7 on it, becouse i can imagine a phone withoud camera and dont want to spend over 200$ in a phone, realy want but i have others more importan expences
what you mean with pure android?

thanks, i had the same issue

pani_alex said:
thanks for the answer, i have cyanogenmod 7 on it, becouse i can imagine a phone withoud camera and dont want to spend over 200$ in a phone, realy want but i have others more importan expences
what you mean with pure android?
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Oops clicked thanks button on phone instead of reply but now I've hit the right button I can explain.
Pure android devices are ones built in partnership with google, to provide an android that is untouched by manufacturers adding things that aren't part of android itself.
Because they are the original version of android, not a manufacturers changed version, they are called pure android devices.
Its like if you take water and add something its not pure water anymore, in the same way if you change android by say adding a different user interface its not pure android anymore.
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mistermentality said:
Oops clicked thanks button on phone instead of reply but now I've hit the right button I can explain.
Pure android devices are ones built in partnership with google, to provide an android that is untouched by manufacturers adding things that aren't part of android itself.
Because they are the original version of android, not a manufacturers changed version, they are called pure android devices.
Its like if you take water and add something its not pure water anymore, in the same way if you change android by say adding a different user interface its not pure android anymore.
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...but we all remember how the latest galaxy nexus wasn't pure vanilla... It was bloated by Samsung.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/is-the-galaxy-nexus-still-a-nexus/

so if i have a pure android device, when some new android version came out i will be able to install by defauld?

MarkInDaPark said:
...but we all remember how the latest galaxy nexus wasn't pure vanilla... It was bloated by Samsung.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/is-the-galaxy-nexus-still-a-nexus/
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i dont understand, you mean that all the phones name nexus are supose to be pure android?

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pani_alex said:
i dont understand, you mean that all the phones name nexus are supose to be pure android?
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Yes they are supposed to be.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Nexus
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all ''Nexus'' phones are supposed to be pure google experience, it is just that google has some company (lately samsung) to build it for 'em. But there are other phones that come with ics (not PURE ics but it is still ics) like Xperia S, galaxy s3, htc one S, one X and so on, the galaxy s2 comes with 2.3 but samsung updated to 4.0.
There is already a custom jellybean rom for the galaxy nexus too (nexus phones are the first to oficialy update and that is almost ALL of them, even the nexus S).
BTW:you could try an older phone (cheaper) with a custom rom too, like me. I have a galaxy s1 running ics and i cant complain, seriously, no FCs no lag no bugs.. of course it's not an oficial update but it rulz with 1.4 ghz OC :laugh:

wow i learned something interesting and new (for me), thenks to all :good:, i will do a little research and post again if have more dudes

found these Nexus Smartphones: Who Wins, Who Loses if Google Launches Android 5.0 in Multiple Handsets? nice if it happens, but is still pending or are there some new information?

Well that would be cool right? All hardware makers would pretty much want that except for samsung i guess, cuz they get a lot of money being the only one making nexus phones...i'd still prefer samsung ones but i'm pretty sure other consumers from htc, lg, sony etc, would be pleased. too bad i haven't heard anything about that in a long time...perhaps we'll see it happen later this year when google shows up the new nexus, or all the newer nexuses:fingers-crossed:

you can't momently have a camara working on your ace, because the galaxyics team haven't written the drivers for that. All you can do now is wait, or buy a expensive phone who does have support

CyanogenMod - Moto G

What are the chances?

I waiting for too +1

It will come.
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I hope it will be officially supported!
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Flip a coin I'd say, not the most powerful device and not a nexus device either so I'm not sure but hopefully
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considering the price specs and unlocked bootloader it will almost definitely be supported
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I hope CM's cozying up with Chinese manufacturers doesn't affect their motivation to support other brands. There's now business involved too.
On the other hand the latest Moto handsets are the closest thing to a Nexus without actually being one. Moto/Google's level of openness and the code they release should be telling. An interesting issue is also support for the dual-sim edition. I understand CM has been working towards it behind the scenes and shortly the first dual-sim device by Moto/Google themselves will be on sale. Will they or won't they release the code for dual-sim support for incorporation in parallel Android projects too?

myanogencod said:
I hope CM's cozying up with Chinese manufacturers doesn't affect their motivation to support other brands. There's now business involved too.
On the other hand the latest Moto handsets are the closest thing to a Nexus without actually being one. Moto/Google's level of openness and the code they release should be telling. An interesting issue is also support for the dual-sim edition. I understand CM has been working towards it behind the scenes and shortly the first dual-sim device by Moto/Google themselves will be on sale. Will they or won't they release the code for dual-sim support for incorporation in parallel Android projects too?
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The model that probably will have the support of CyanogenMod will be the A 8GB chip, 2 chips but who knows Also gain support, This will depend on the developers. What remains is to wait
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myanogencod said:
I hope CM's cozying up with Chinese manufacturers doesn't affect their motivation to support other brands. There's now business involved too.
On the other hand the latest Moto handsets are the closest thing to a Nexus without actually being one. Moto/Google's level of openness and the code they release should be telling. An interesting issue is also support for the dual-sim edition. I understand CM has been working towards it behind the scenes and shortly the first dual-sim device by Moto/Google themselves will be on sale. Will they or won't they release the code for dual-sim support for incorporation in parallel Android projects too?
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Cyanogen is still community based.... If there will be an developer who sync the cm repo with the device and fixes the bugs and offical submit it to cm there will be "official" cm support. Check out the CM Forum and the Rules to geht offical cm support then you can answer this question your own.
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arison1988 said:
Cyanogen is still community based.... If there will be an developer who sync the cm repo with the device and fixes the bugs and offical submit it to cm there will be "official" cm support. Check out the CM Forum and the Rules to geht offical cm support then you can answer this question your own.
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What part of my message were you unhappy about again?
I can't see how The Rules would have anything to do with what I was wondering about.
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need it!

me too

I'm confident the Moto G will be popular and there will be a wide variety of ROMs available, both stock and AOSP based should there be much difference (?).
I think the variety of ROMs will be more important than the presence or not of any specific ROM.
The $200 or less price point for the features has resulted in a LOT of online admiration by the sorts of people who root, ROM & customize.
Just convince ROM devs that it's a wonderful phone and the process will begin.
For those who prefer expensive flagships for their personal use, the Moto G is great for backup (after failed flashes etc, LOL) and great for the kids, grandma, and the rest of the family.

Now that it's been rooted (quite easily), it might not take too long till we see some custom roms popping aroud.

i don't understand why this device isn't more popular..
In the short time i had i've been very amazed at the pricepoint/performance, and on top of that the device is a google device with unlockable bootloader and android 4.4 promised, so i would've thought the developers would jump on board. Hopefully more developers will start working on this device :fingers-crossed:

Well, give it some time, this device is rather new, I am sure it will be popular, it's the cheapest quad-core around
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First of all Motorola has to release the Blobs and Sources, which may happens next Week with Luck.

I've read somewhere that it's gonna get an update in January... maybe it's gonna be where everything will start.

Kameo said:
I've read somewhere that it's gonna get an update in January... maybe it's gonna be where everything will start.
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It has already started.

theoneofgod said:
It has already started.
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Source?

Open Smartwatch Project and Android Wear?

I picked up a Smartwatch 2 for $60 two days ago at a closing Sony store. I've built AOSP before for my GNexus but that's the extent of my Android dev experience. So with the announcement of Android Wear today and the info from the Open Smartwatch Project I feel life may be telling me to put on the developer hat for real this time and test the waters surrounding porting Android Wear to the SW2. I can't say I'll be successful since I'm obviously in way over my head but sometimes jumping in the deep end is the best way to learn. Any advice or opinions you guys can give me would be much appreciated!

Sounds like a really good idea
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Good luck. Would be interested in testing what you come up with.
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Ready for testing It would be great.

Same here. I would love to try some new things on my SW2.
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SW2 is NOT running android
you probably won't be able to come up with something, sorry
greetings
MJFox

MJFox78 said:
SW2 is NOT running android
you probably won't be able to come up with something, sorry
greetings
MJFox
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I was thinking the same thing but that's not to say it's not impossible.
Best of luck to you OP.

Not to mention there is no microphone

MJFox78 said:
SW2 is NOT running android
you probably won't be able to come up with something, sorry
greetings
MJFox
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Thanks, I actually know that it runs microC/OS-II. The chip however is an ARM Cortex M3 which has already had Linux ported to it. I'm also waiting for an Android Wear release because I imagine a lot of these wearables are going to be using these low power ARMs and should provide a platform to start working from. Sony's Bluetooth chip is actually my biggest concern since there's very little documentation for it. Like I said, I'm not sure I'm going to be successful, just going to try.
Please keep up the criticism! Anyone bringing up topics I may not have considered could be helping me find more information!

cabal51 said:
Thanks, I actually know that it runs microC/OS-II. The chip however is an ARM Cortex M3 which has already had Linux ported to it. I'm also waiting for an Android Wear release because I imagine a lot of these wearables are going to be using these low power ARMs and should provide a platform to start working from. Sony's Bluetooth chip is actually my biggest concern since there's very little documentation for it. Like I said, I'm not sure I'm going to be successful, just going to try.
Please keep up the criticism! Anyone bringing up topics I may not have considered could be helping me find more information!
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Here is pretty much the only documentation I could find about the SW2's hardware. It does indeed run some form of uC-OS/II on an ARM Cortex-M4 (STM32F4-series system-on-chip), but it's only got 256 KiBs of RAM - if you're skilled and resourceful enough, you might be able to get a uclinux build to run on it (there is one for ST's STM32F4-based Discovery board), but any form of Android is out of the question.
Of course, if you've got the skills, making any sort of third-party code run on the thing would be godly.

Would love to see it running! Here for testing too!
Good luck
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I was really disappointed when i saw Android Wear But then i just realized that our sw2 is way more useful becouse of all its apps (torch, calendar, calc etc) and also for the necessity of Android Wear to use the mic all the time... Just my two cents
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-=W1S3=- said:
I was really disappointed when i saw Android Wear But then i just realized that our sw2 is way more useful becouse of all its apps (torch, calendar, calc etc) and also for the necessity of Android Wear to use the mic all the time... Just my two cents
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I think that the screen transrefelctive is the best solution for a smartwatch, I selected SW2 for 3 reasons : Screen visible in all conditions (other watch are not visibile so good under the sun light), battery life and waterproof...
Android Wear in my opinion will use more battery, will use lcd or oled screen... 2 reasons to prefer SW2 at the moment...

magicdark said:
I think that the screen transrefelctive is the best solution for a smartwatch, I selected SW2 for 3 reasons : Screen visible in all conditions (other watch are not visibile so good under the sun light), battery life and waterproof...
Android Wear in my opinion will use more battery, will use lcd or oled screen... 2 reasons to prefer SW2 at the moment...
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I'm with you guys, I think I will be happier with the SW2 than the first generation of Android Wear. I expect that will change over time though.

Aside from the voice thing (which is socially awkward) the sw2 would be capable of showing Now cards if there was an api for it. That's all Android wear does at the moment.
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how is this going? even after update i still wanna try this out

up ?

Here for testing as well!
I would love to just be able to flick through notifications and Google Now cards, don't really care about the whole "no microphone" thing. If I need to talk to Google, I'll be on my phone or Google Glass.

according to
www.clove.co.uk/download.aspx?download=ee0fdaa0-7b8f-47f7-941f-c9baceaf853e
it is a STM32F429
a few other threads about 'open smartwatch' and firmware mods/hacking. there's arduino for the 1st smartwatch
STM32F4 code compiles if you drop it in and make minor changes
https://github.com/underverk/SmartWatch_Toolchain
if sony had a
http://developer.sonymobile.com/services/open-smartwatch-project/smartwatch-hacker-guide/
page like this for SW2 - i think we'd be all good

When, Why?

Hello
For over one year we have the S6 . We still expect that developers lay us an AOSP ROM. CyanogenMod but we dodge ! And AOKP ? It's over?
Have you any news? Thank you in advance!
I think I'll leave Galaxy for Nexus !

Why bother for a cm full of bugs..just use a tw rom debloated and with a custom launcher.
S6 wont get any stable cm even in a few years. So just move on

just change title mate, it's against the rules do something like this.
no opensource = no cyano. it's like trying to build a rom without codes.

slawl said:
Hello
For over one year we have the S6 . We still expect that developers lay us an AOSP ROM. CyanogenMod but we dodge ! And AOKP ? It's over?
Have you any news? Thank you in advance!
I think I'll leave Galaxy for Nexus !
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Any device utilizing a Exyenos CPU is always a no-go for CM and never-ever good for any bug-free modding. Always & forever. I believe any rom Dev would tell you this.
Samsung's hardware imo is superior to Nexus, say what you will, but Samsung knows how to produce a quality handset. Too bad about the mod-ability! But hey, as you pointed out, there's always Nexus

The exynos chipset is always difficult to get a cyanogen build for, mainly cos Samsung never release sources which makes development very hard.
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thundastruck said:
Any device utilizing a Exyenos CPU is always a no-go for CM and never-ever good for any bug-free modding. Always & forever. I believe any rom Dev would tell you this.
Samsung's hardware imo is superior to Nexus, say what you will, but Samsung knows how to produce a quality handset. Too bad about the mod-ability! But hey, as you pointed out, there's always Nexus
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Except for the Nexus 10 which has an Exynos aswell.
Officially it has 5.1.1 but unofficial cm13, maybe Android N in the future.

XxM4tzexX said:
Except for the Nexus 10 which has an Exynos aswell.
Officially it has 5.1.1 but unofficial cm13, maybe Android N in the future.
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I never argued Exyenos can't/won't run/didn't have decent builds of CM; simply said it's a no-go meaning the end-user experience is inferior to devices that run it well e.g. devices with Qualcomm's CPU's.
Devices with Qualcomm/Snapdragon CPU's are usually the ones to go for. Look at the thread and compare rom's/cm of i9500 vs i9505 - BIG difference! :highfive:

Looks like android N is here - What now ?

Just saw that the Android N just came out....
What now, will someone port the version over to S7 devices or will be have to wait on Samsung to update :/ ?

We have to wait Samsung..I will test CM 14 on my Moto G 2013 when it's released
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Damn, i want it asap
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.

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Damn, i want it asap
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You're not the only one

If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD

Shuuin said:
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
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Any developers here would do it if it was somwhat posibile but Samsung doesn't release the source code of Exynos so it's somewhat impossibile. It's like you need to build a town with buildings but you don't have a map of pipes to see here you need to put it...
Developers need to write all the drivers and with guessing what where it goes and really is impossibile.
My Moto G 2013 will get CM 14 beacuse Motorola released the source code for Android 5.1 and they have a starting point. Here we have nothing.

Not going to happen. We'll see it in roughly six months.... Oh well... Samsung supports their devices like one time phones. Only sales matters no support. They have let their customers down so many times now...

I'm afraid that they'll make some patch and security update of Android 6 for S7/Edge sooner. But let's hope that they'll push hard for Note 7 and some king will port it on S7.
I'd start hunt for it. I feel free to give 20 USD donate for stable (almost) clean Android 7 ROM

Capt said:
You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Im sure the international phones will get it this year, carrier phones will get it next year heh

As Eurofighter_ty said above, there will be no "porting" of Android N (or any other non-Touchwiz ROM like CyanogenMod) to a Samsung device with an Exynos SoC due to proprietary sources that Samsung will not release. There are exceptions where an extremely talented and motivated dev takes the time to reverse engineer drivers.
If history serves, it will be several months before Samsung starts rolling Nougat out, newest and most important devices first (N7, S7, S7E...). These are things to know before buying any Samsung device.

Maybe, i should just wait for S8 then XD

Capt said:
You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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thx cusa

I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..

GalaxyGusta said:
I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
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I would agree, I've seen major android updates in the past where its been like a step backwards and so it only leads to disappointment. Hopefully we are at a stage with android where this update (6 to 7) is more of a polishing of the current OS. Yes I know there are some additional features but its not a major overhaul as we've had in the past. I think most people would mostly appreciate some better consistency with battery life, Im not saying mine isnt good but there still seems to be a high android OS usage,so hopefully the enhanced doze feature tackles this, but we'll see. The one benefit of not getting the update right now is that over the next few months hopefully a lot of issues will be ironed out, for instance app compatibility. There are almost always cases where "I've just upgraded but now XXXX app doesnt work??" and you have to wait for the dev to update so their app so that it works nicely with the latest release.

Some of the Android N features are already in the S7. Multi window for example. Or Android for Work which overlaps with Knox. Other stuff is nice but only for new devices, like the seamless updates. The new JIT may be an exception, and the new graphics subsystem would also be nice.
About the VR stuff: I double Samsung will enable it for the Gear VR but we can of course hope.

Expect to have android N next year around April or May
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