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New purchase and future development

Hi guys,
I’d like to buy the Moto G to replace my Galaxy S I9000. I know pretty well the phone’s specs but before buying it I need to satisfy a doubt about. Since I had my first Android phone (HTC G1) I’ve changed a ROM a week , so it’s very important for me to have a phone that could have a long-term support from this community. I know that Nexus 5 (or the unavailable “4” ) could be the right choice for this purpose but I need to save some money and Moto G is cheaper than these ones.
So my question is if, in your opinion, Moto G will receive some Android future versions (Why not Android 5? ) and if It will be unofficially (Cyanogen, Aokp, Paranoid,etc..) or officially supported (since Lenovo bought Motorola, so without official Google support) . I know it’s an hard question but I’m scared by Lenovo acquirement and I won’t have a paperweight-phone in one year.
Does developers have all the tools (kernel source and all the things they need) to make future updates works on this device right now? I’d like to have a your prevision(also technical) about it .Thank you in advance for your answers and sorry for my English but I’m Italian.

If your'e worried about something so trivial, just stick with the S, no worries.

daevoq said:
Hi guys,
I’d like to buy the Moto G to replace my Galaxy S I9000. I know pretty well the phone’s specs but before buying it I need to satisfy a doubt about. Since I had my first Android phone (HTC G1) I’ve changed a ROM a week , so it’s very important for me to have a phone that could have a long-term support from this community. I know that Nexus 5 (or the unavailable “4” ) could be the right choice for this purpose but I need to save some money and Moto G is cheaper than these ones.
So my question is if, in your opinion, Moto G will receive some Android future versions (Why not Android 5? ) and if It will be unofficially (Cyanogen, Aokp, Paranoid,etc..) or officially supported (since Lenovo bought Motorola, so without official Google support) . I know it’s an hard question but I’m scared by Lenovo acquirement and I won’t have a paperweight-phone in one year.
Does developers have all the tools (kernel source and all the things they need) to make future updates works on this device right now? I’d like to have a your prevision(also technical) about it .Thank you in advance for your answers and sorry for my English but I’m Italian.
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If you ask me, 4.4.2 will be the last official major update for this phone. Hope I'm not right but time will tell. There are already some custom ROMs around and I'm sure that there will be more in the future...

theoneofgod said:
If your'e worried about something so trivial, just stick with the S, no worries.
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I don't want to be polemical at all..i think are tastes..i like to "play" with my devices so for me is not so trivial have futur roms and updates from community.. since i have to spend my money i want torneo spend it in a good way!
By the way thanks for answers! i'd like recieve also technical information!
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daevoq said:
I don't want to be polemical at all..i think are tastes..i like to "play" with my devices so for me is not so trivial have future roms and updates from community.. since i have to spend my money i want to spend it in a good way!
By the way thanks for answers! i'd like recieve also technical information!
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Sorry tapatalk's double post!-_-
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a success of an android device future development lies in number of users. the more number of user,the greater chance it will have excellent support from community of xda.
like ur i9100 (big number of user),s2 or even galaxy ace can have 4.4.2 because of the large community.
moto g launch in so many countries(usa,china,india,asia,europe),it could be one of biggest number of android user ,added with open-source of qualcomm and GPE of moto g,it will definitely can past 4.4.2 kitkat.

daevoq said:
I don't want to be polemical at all..i think are tastes..i like to "play" with my devices so for me is not so trivial have futur roms and updates from community.. since i have to spend my money i want torneo spend it in a good way!
By the way thanks for answers! i'd like recieve also technical information!
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I like to "play" too but that's the point, it doesn't get official 4.5 and we get a custom 4.5, and we "play" with it. It's the same with the S yes?

1) The bootloader unlock policy is MUCH better with the GPe variant. Get it if you can.
2) This is a fairly vanilla Qualcomm-based device, which is great for AOSP-derived firmwares thanks to Qualcomm's reference source at CodeAurora (CAF). Biggest issue so far has been that it's one of the first MSM8226-based devices out there, so there has been a bit of a learning curve so far for everyone working on the device.

theoneofgod said:
I like to "play" too but that's the point, it doesn't get official 4.5 and we get a custom 4.5, and we "play" with it. It's the same with the S yes?
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i don't care official update.. i'd like to recieve custom next version! yes.. it's the same with I9000.
Entropy512 said:
1) The bootloader unlock policy is MUCH better with the GPe variant. Get it if you can.
2) This is a fairly vanilla Qualcomm-based device, which is great for AOSP-derived firmwares thanks to Qualcomm's reference source at CodeAurora (CAF). Biggest issue so far has been that it's one of the first MSM8226-based devices out there, so there has been a bit of a learning curve so far for everyone working on the device.
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i can't get GPe variant since is too difficult to get it in italy.. great informations about cpu base.. that is what i need to know!
if I'm not mistaken we have kernel source right?
By the way bought it a few hours ago! really great device for that price! Thanks a lot for all of your answers.. ill' post some little question later about processors and stuff!

What are the odds we get a 6.0 ROM soon?

Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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it is possible, but i don't know what will happened

From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.

kdb424 said:
From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.

Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!

kdb424 said:
While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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There's no doubt we'll see the next version after Marshmallow on this phone, but I can guarantee you it won't be in the form of official updates via Cyanogen Inc, it'll be in the form of community developed ROMs via CyanogenMod. If you meant CyanogenMod and not Cyanogen Inc then I misunderstood you.

I just meant Roms in general
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.

_Beni_ said:
Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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nikeman513 said:
Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol

jukiewalsh said:
What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.

runderekrun said:
Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Moto E: cheap budget phone that I think people only bought as a placeholder when they broke a phone or something else happened, it's not a flagship. nobody bought it to use for 2+ years and I don't think it was intended as such.
Moto x: did you see that the pure is getting updated? That means it was the carriers decision, not Motorola's. Also, it's easy to convert the att/Verizon version to the pure version and then you'll get the update fine.

jukiewalsh said:
What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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As soon as Lenovo brought out Pure they let go about 500 Motorola employees, many who were in the dev department... They are giving people hard times about returns saying it will take 6-8 weeks to get their money back on an overnight return label. The pure QC is piss poor, if you go to their forums, their most popular thread is about returning the phone... This clearly isn't the same Motorola we used to love. I'm not big on OnePlus either, I only came back here, because at least I know my OnePlus works, I'll never buy from them again though, that's for sure.
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Here they don't say we will get COS13 but only Oxygen / Hydrogen :
http://www.gadgetlite.in/2015/10/here-is-list-of-devices-getting-android.html#.VhNtuWuBS6F
But since the communication of Cyanogen is not really a "thing" I won't settle for this news

Source has dropped, so we might see devs starting to build soon
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/marshmallow-release

Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?

Well i think it will be possible to get a bootable AOSP 6.0 Rom , cause we already had a booting 5.1.51 Rom!

_Beni_ said:
Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
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the radio issues are driving me nuts, no matter what modem i use i still run into issues.

Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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Agreed. Look at when we finally got 5.1.1...SMH
BTW, pretty sure you meant Cyanogen Inc, not CM
nikeman513 said:
Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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The probability is high that we'll get a taste (not likely daily driver level sweet mind you) of Marshmallow by tomorrow:
Follow this thread

Snapdragon 820 = AOSP?

Quite simply, from what I'm reading about S6, and Exynos, the main reason for lack of major AOSP ROMS (CM13 has been finally ported), is the idea that Exynos is not documented so coding for it is difficult.
Knowing now that Snapdragon 820 is a Qualcom chip, which apparently is the most common SoC used for phones, should we expect to see a lot of AOSP based ROMs?
I am very used to Vanilla Android, and I don't think I could deal with TouchWiz, I like CM Theme Engine, and RRO Layers, so the big reason for my question is based on the hope that the probability of non-TouchWiz ROMs is high.
Also, I had a moto x 2014 and I've come to fall in love with AMOLED, and would like to stick to a small form factor 5 to 5.1 inches, combined with healthy ROM community, I'm kind of hoping S7 with SD820 might be the phone for me.
Please don't say "If you like Stock don't buy a Samsung", I get it, but it looks like maybe that stigma might not hold up soon if the ROM cookers are supportive.
Thanks!

I'm not sure on the international versions, but I know most carrier versions of the Note 4, S6, Note 5, etc. never got unlocked bootloaders in the first place, let alone custom ROMs. Knox is killer.

geoff5093 said:
I'm not sure on the international versions, but I know most carrier versions of the Note 4, S6, Note 5, etc. never got unlocked bootloaders in the first place, let alone custom ROMs. Knox is killer.
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Tmobile variants of all the phones you listed are bootloader unlocked. Knox has never stopped anything.
@Shemploo yes more than likely AOSP roms will be available for the snapdragons. I'm betting even exynos variants will get it although probably a little later.

I don't do carrier contracts so I'd most likely look/hope for a developer/pure edition of the S7.
The Edge does not really interest me, unless they figured out some cool things to do with the curved screen that are actually useful.
I'd much rather have a fingerprint reader, and front sensors like the Moto's, I love waving my hand in front of the display to have it wake up and tell me the time.
People go... you are a Jedi!?

Airtioteclint said:
Tmobile variants of all the phones you listed are bootloader unlocked. Knox has never stopped anything.
@Shemploo yes more than likely AOSP roms will be available for the snapdragons. I'm betting even exynos variants will get it although probably a little later.
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I know AT&T and Verizon are different stories, good to know it works for T-Mobile though.

Most if not all Sprint phones have unlocked bootloaders too. At least last time I checked!

Yes. However you got something wrong there. The reason why Qualcomm has all the fancy AOSP based ROMs (I say fancy because most people consider non aosp roms boring) is because of this. This is where QCOM releases their soruce code for the platforms. This makes fixing easier because you actually have the code. However exynos and all the other ones don't give a crap about the small percentage of their users that actually flash roms etc. Infact, they only want money. And guess what? ROMs = Longer device lifespan. That's why they don't release it. Thankfully enough there are some geniuses here on XDA that still are able to do the job for exynos! However, QCOM has allot better optimization with CM in terms of performance than with any other chipset. I live in the EU, which means Exynos. After already owning 2 exynos devices, I'm tired of the work that has to be done for them. I was lucky enough that both of them had Exynos chipsets that already had allot of devs mainly from other devices which made building possible for me.

@CTXz I suppose the closest thing to AOSP on Samsung devices QCom, or Exynos, is going to be Cyanogen right?
Would I be right to assume Cyanogen would be the first (possibly only) AOSP to build for Samsung?
In other words, would/could anyone build true AOSP based on Google's source code?
I understand both are considered AOSP, I'm asking cause from general experience with ROMs, when ROM is built on CM, they usually just build in the CM Theme Manager, and only the ROMs based on Google's code do things like RRO Layer support.

Shemploo said:
@CTXz I suppose the closest thing to AOSP on Samsung devices QCom, or Exynos, is going to be Cyanogen right?
Would I be right to assume Cyanogen would be the first (possibly only) AOSP to build for Samsung?
In other words, would/could anyone build true AOSP based on Google's source code?
I understand both are considered AOSP, I'm asking cause from general experience with ROMs, when ROM is built on CM, they usually just build in the CM Theme Manager, and only the ROMs based on Google's code do things like RRO Layer support.
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Ofcourse, infact that is up to the devs, however CyanogenMod is usually recommended over pure AOSP due it's great documentation, common updates, it's optimizations and tweaks above stock AOSP. It's also the simplest to get the hands on.
EDIT: It's also important to know that CM isn't just AOSP with a few apps. While CM is based on AOSP, it still has it's own community and is still a different ROM than AOSP mainly when it comes to the internal changes.

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CTXz said:
Ofcourse, infact that is up to the devs, however CyanogenMod is usually recommended over pure AOSP due it's great documentation, common updates, it's optimizations and tweaks above stock AOSP. It's also the simplest to get the hands on.
EDIT: It's also important to know that CM isn't just AOSP with a few apps. While CM is based on AOSP, it still has it's own community and is still a different ROM than AOSP mainly when it comes to the internal changes.
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After Cm started trying to push that you make an acct with them I will never use CM again. I know that people say Inc has no relation to... whatever non-Inc calls themselves, but I no longer trust any of them and would rather buy a Windows phone or iPhone before I run them on any phone of mine again.

knitler said:
After Cm started trying to push that you make an acct with them I will never use CM again. I know that people say Inc has no relation to... whatever non-Inc calls themselves, but I no longer trust any of them and would rather buy a Windows phone or iPhone before I run them on any phone of mine again.
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Um... CM =/= Cyanogen Inc
CM is a completely separate group that is not affected in any way. It's like XDA and GOogle. XDA is for developing and still both work on android. I know some people in the official CM group, all of them very friendly and none of it is affected by Cyanogen Inc. You're making yourself lies that aren't true. It's like blaming the entire CyanogenMod team because one dev for a specific device didn't fix the issue yet.

If CM is the main like, why not just get a Nexus and get it over with? You'll get CM right away.
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barondebxl said:
If CM is the main like, why not just get a Nexus and get it over with? You'll get CM right away.
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Because some people don't want a nexus

CTXz said:
Because some people don't want a nexus
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But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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barondebxl said:
But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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And cripple it with bad, forever-beta, with half the functionally misssing software.

Sure hope we get aosp!
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I thought it was primarily due to the 64 bit architecture that was the hold up with aosp on the s6. Buy I could be wrong. Been a while since I went looking.

barondebxl said:
But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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That is a good argument, however many people DO actually go for the look/hardware and with that said. Afterall xda wouldn't be this big if you could use the word nexus for all excuses, right ?

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That is a good argument, however many people DO actually go for the look/hardware and with that said. Afterall xda wouldn't be this big if you could use the word nexus for all excuses, right ?
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Might want to get used to it as sooner or later it will only be nexus devices that are worked on.
Also what's the point of getting the device fore the hardware when aosp doesn't take advantage of the hardware? Aosp drivers don't compare to the stock ones.

New Vulkan API on Exynos 7420

Hello everybody, I don't know if you all are familiar with this new API, it seems like is very promising and I have read that it will bring mobile gaming to a new level. Look for more info on google, its pretty interesting.
Now, the Galaxy S7 is the first phone that will come with this API, my question is, do you think that our phone will support it? For now we have OpenGL ES and Vulkan is gonna be way faster, hopefully will get this, since is just a software update. What you guys think?

So, no body interesting in this matter?

This place is always pretty dead...
I have the new Marshmallow update on my Nvidia Shield TV which has the new Vulkan API. I have not had a chance yet to try a game that utilizes the API but from what I read on the topic, it makes a big difference less processing power required, higher frame-rates, etc. There's a few examples of the API in use on YouTube also that show some side by sides.
According to this article, these are the current games that support the API with Marshmallow. "Real Racing 3, Oddworld Munch’s Oddysee, Minecraft Story Mode, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, and Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories."

So, now that we have marshmallow, is there any way to get Vulkan on pur phones? Anybody?
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It's not available yet

Most likely not. Samsung, I doubt, will be issuing any more updates to this phone that aren't simply minor incremental updates or security patches. I don't believe a developer can make this into a stock rom as well but I could be wrong.
On the extreme side of things, from what I have read, N will is being built with Vulkan in mind or at least to a degree. It might be easier to add it then to a phone on N if the manufacturer doesn't include the API.
I wish I was wrong but given Samsung's track record and how long it took for MM to come, N is going to be a Note 6 and up deal.
Now if we had a viable aosp rom then I would say it's possible but that definately won't happen anytime soon or likely ever.
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NXLTrauma25 said:
Most likely not. Samsung, I doubt, will be issuing any more updates to this phone that aren't simply minor incremental updates or security patches. I don't believe a developer can make this into a stock rom as well but I could be wrong.
On the extreme side of things, from what I have read, N will is being built with Vulkan in mind or at least to a degree. It might be easier to add it then to a phone on N if the manufacturer doesn't include the API.
I wish I was wrong but given Samsung's track record and how long it took for MM to come, N is going to be a Note 6 and up deal.
Now if we had a viable aosp rom then I would say it's possible but that definately won't happen anytime soon or likely ever.
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Aosp COULD happen...RaymanFX has been working on porting cm13 to our device and there's currently folks looking to get him a exynos 7420 dev device in a fundraiser thread that has quite a few donations, and about 2 days ago (maybe 3?) he just merged the pd1 source, if you follow his github, you can maybe decider a little more effectively than myself just how close he is to a booting compile...

Rx8Driver said:
Aosp COULD happen...RaymanFX has been working on porting cm13 to our device and there's currently folks looking to get him a exynos 7420 dev device in a fundraiser thread that has quite a few donations, and about 2 days ago (maybe 3?) he just merged the pd1 source, if you follow his github, you can maybe decider a little more effectively than myself just how close he is to a booting compile...
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This is refreshing to hear and I'm glad you are proving me wrong in this aspect. Thank you for the update.
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NXLTrauma25 said:
This is refreshing to hear and I'm glad you are proving me wrong in this aspect. Thank you for the update.
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Well, it hasn't happened yet, but all hope isn't as lost as you maybe thought, at least! So there's that! Lol

Any news???
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For anyone interested there's a booting unreleased version of cm13 out...it's buggy and early but it boots! RaymanFX has done a great job with truly uncharted waters!

Rx8Driver said:
For anyone interested there's a booting unreleased version of cm13 out...it's buggy and early but it boots! RaymanFX has done a great job with truly uncharted waters!
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CM has always had issues, even using Qualcomm SoCs that have the developer documentation behind them that the Exynos does not. I doubt there will ever be a stable CM or any other AOSP build. Stable enough for daily use, maybe, but things will always be broken.

EtherealRemnant said:
CM has always had issues, even using Qualcomm SoCs that have the developer documentation behind them that the Exynos does not. I doubt there will ever be a stable CM or any other AOSP build. Stable enough for daily use, maybe, but things will always be broken.
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Indeed, i think you're correct there.
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I know there someone on xda that has ported S7 romantic to the Note 5. I asked about the functionality ofor Vulkan. Had not heard back.

joutcast said:
I know there someone on xda that has ported S7 romantic to the Note 5. I asked about the functionality ofor Vulkan. Had not heard back.
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There's lots of s7 rom ports...
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Galaxy S7 Edge(International Edition - Yup that one) Kernel Has Been Made Opensource.

Hello everyone,
The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - International Edition's kernel has been made opensource (The one variant that we thought would never get an opensource kernel has got it, officially ), but I have a few questions :
Q1. Will Cyanogenmod ever come for it, because this phone will never get any version updates form Samsung, unless you buy the S8, S9 etc...etc....
Q2. Does this opensource kernel mean it can be directly used to compile a version of Android N on the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - International Edition, without many hiccups ...... hiccup .
P.S. I do know that TWRP is available for this variant of the Samsung flagship,making it a 2016 developer phone, but is it worth it because the custom ROMs are not out yet to use, if they ever come, that is.
Here's a link to the page from where you can download it's kernel sources :
opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-G935F

Uh... kernel sources (I'm pretty sure) have always been avaliable for the exynos. The problem is exynos is closed source meaning it's harder to develop CM etc for it. This just means we can now have a custom kernel for our custom stock firmwares. I'm new to exynos so I may be wrong. But Sammy always releases kernel sources.
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A lot of parts of a unix kernel are based on open source development covered under GPL license. So every smartphone manufacturer is forced to release Kernel Sources within 90 days. So nothing new here. What kernel devs would need is a more structured, commented and documented code like Qualcomm SoCs get + the huge amount of kernel optimization done at Code Aurora Forums.

Samsung have to release the kernel source, it's part of what allows them to use Android. However, they don't release any more than they absolutely have to. Don't think for a minute this means we're going to end up with a stable release of CM13.
Though hopefully it does mean we should have some decent stock-based kernels soon.

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Beefheart said:
Samsung have to release the kernel source, it's part of what allows them to use Android. However, they don't release any more than they absolutely have to. Don't think for a minute this means we're going to end up with a stable release of CM13.
Though hopefully it does mean we should have some decent stock-based kernels soon.
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Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?

Sport_Boy28 said:
Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
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There will be custom roms + kernels but there won't be any official support by all the aosp crews... And for most ppl the quality of a phone is more important than dev potential. I like how good development is able to mod or optimize a phone. But buying a worse phone which never can catch up with the best ones even if the whole optimization potential is used only because you could optimize more is not an alternative for a lot of ppl...

Sport_Boy28 said:
Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
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Same reason they buy iPhone for.
Mix of marketing, product aesthetics, track record, level of grooming etc.

midreestaj said:
Same reason they buy iPhone for.
Mix of marketing, product aesthetics, track record, level of grooming etc.
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Lol or because the stock experience of the phone + stock rom + quality in every aspects is just great... I mean most ppl buy a phone to use it primarily and to mod/optimize it secondarily... For example if sd820 versions bootloader get unlocked sure they will push performance at 20% but it still wouldn't be competitive if it comes to battery life, app launching times and ram bandwidth of exynos...
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hlenforcer said:
Lol or because the stock experience of the phone + stock rom + quality in every aspects is just great... I mean most ppl buy a phone to use it primarily and to mod/optimize it secondarily... For example if sd820 versions bootloader get unlocked sure they will push performance at 20% but it still wouldn't be competitive if it comes to battery life, app launching times and ram bandwidth of exynos...
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Agreed to above.
Stock ROM in my opinion is better over all for an average user (which is 95% of those who have purchased the handset)

Old news here. Been discussed already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/sammobile-samsung-releases-kernel-t3334331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/reminder-request-source-code-t3326034

CafeKampuchia said:
Old news here. Been discussed already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/sammobile-samsung-releases-kernel-t3334331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/reminder-request-source-code-t3326034
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As stated allready 2 threads on this we don't need another