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Okay guys first of all i know all the benefits to a screen protector, but on my old iPhone that didnt have a screen protector and the screen was fine, no scratches etc etc.... I was wondering do we really, really need a protector on the diamond? As im sure that without it it would be much smoother to use?
I applied my screen protector as soon as I unboxed my phone however was wondering of the opinions of people that a) didnt and b) took their protectors off and used the device.
Does the screen 'feel' any different without it?
Please post in the right section (Diamond accessories).
Screen protectors are advised, 'cause you reduce the risk of damage to the screen itself (which will be expensive to replace). It will dull the sensitivity slightly (although less than on the iPhone screens as they use different technology.)
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
irdawood said:
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
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Diamond has resistive touch screen, iPhone has capacitive.
That means the iPhone can have a solid (glass) front to the screen.
xboxmod said:
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
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Use the sticky side of a piece of tape to remove the old screenprotector.
That's the way the pro's are doing it. Use the same sticky tape to pick up small residue on screen before applying the new one.
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
But the iPhones isn´t usable with a stylus only with fingers due to the influence in the static field of the capacitive touchscreen.
Well actually the Diamond got TWO touchscreens, it also have a capacitive touchscreen under the normal screen and under the touchpad (buttons) beside the resistive touchscreen on the surface of the screen. (sushilange fond that).
it is a must
you are mad if you don't
fcaeiro said:
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
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But still love the Love and passion you speak of.
Something that looks this nice Should look as nice ass possible.
Maybe some company is smart enough to make a full body screen protector. (maybe it allready exist heavn't looked)
I have double feelings about this.
My Touch Screen wothout protections is starting to lose the top layer on the right side of screen (i never really got the hang of using that unnatural touch scrolling and kept using the scrollbar)
Try to teach an old dog new tricks
It's expensive, but this seems to be a good full-protection:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
We will see this shamefull Spam through the fingers this time
The video sells let's be honoust.
But a video of how to strap on these Protective Phone Kevlar Condom Vests would be usefull.
If anyone get's he's her hands one one of these i'd be interested on how it looks and let's itself be applied. It is pricey but for the Price i'll be paying for the Pro it might be a very good investment.
im going to give that invisible shield a try. sounds cool and i like my devices like from box :>
I just want to know how many people have already a scratched screen on their Nexus s
The screen is pretty strong against scratches. I definitely put nothing in the same pocket as any phone that I might be carrying, but even if you had keys with the screen facing them, you won't end up with any scratches. (The same can't be said about the Nexus S's back plate though).
my vote might not actually count. i've had an invisibleshield on my phone from the day I got it
you all would agree that gorilla glass is much stronger than of nexus s, am i wrong? i just want a phone which has a long lasting durability...
well if you want to put the screen surface to the test, it probably is....but in day to today usage it doesn't really matter, at least for me. (this depends on how one treats a handset).
I got a friend who consistently strip the paint off from handset (any phone) in less than a week...doesn't bother him much, advised him to change the casing and he replied that it doesn't do any good it'll be in a same state in a week...that is just how he treats the handset.
On another view, looks kinda hardcore though, beaten to a pulp cosmetically but still function as a normal phone.
Had mine since April with no screen protector. Not a scratch on it.
All of my phones have had visiable and annoying scratches after a few weeks, sometimes days..
My nexus s on the other hand is great. No scratches what so ever One dead pixel, but it disappeared after a week..
Hi all,
I don't really want to use the screen protector and I thought I'd ask the question about the glass that the screen is made of.
I understand that it is not Gorilla Glass, and that it does not have the plastic 'shatter protection' layer on it - so how scratch resistant is it if I don't use the protector that came with the phone?
There doesn't seem to be a test online yet, and not much being said about this specific. And no, I don't want to try it out on my phone and report back!!
What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
Thanks guys.
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Screens do not scratch themselves... Just saying.
Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Wow - this guy's phone must be screwed then:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/See-...with-a-real-knife-on-a-Sony-Xperia-Z3_id61723
Although perhaps the screen only gets scratched if you *don't* use a sharp object?
Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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You could try a tempered glass screen protector i never had that problem with them. and they feel better then plastic screen protectors.
I'd agree with the tempered glass protectors, I haven't gotten dust under one yet, and if you do, just take it off, get the dust off, and re apply. They're much much better than any normal protector and a lot lot easier to apply and re-position if you get it wrong.
Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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I might have to give that a go; just tried putting on 5 plastic protectors but they all failed my zero-dust policy!
Do not overestimate the strength of the screen. It scratches incredibly easily. You'd best keep it safe. Many screen protectors are almost 100% transparent nowadays anyway.
The screen on the front of my Z3 has been fine without a screen protector but the back got a scratch from merely sliding across a table a few centimeters. Not very noticeable but makes me wonder if the front and back are different types of glass?
Having never gotten a scratch on any of my previous phones, personally I think the Z3 glass is slightly on the soft side as I've already got a few tiny scratches on it, which is surprising.
I think it's time to invest in a Tempered Glass screen protector, PET film feels like crap.
Ummm...
Well, I'm pretty sure that in most of cases that won't happen, but...
https://www.google.com/search?q=self+crack+screen
Just quoting...
I have to agree with the glass being very soft, don't understand how I've gotten these scratches on the front and back. Been super careful and didn't have anything in my pockets. Have 2 nice ones on the front and a couple on the back from putting it in and taking it out of my empty pockets.
How easy is the glass to replace on these phones btw, I think the back is very easy but anyone know about the front? Can the glass be replaced without getting a whole new screen and digitizer?
Screen protectors are a MUST!
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What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
Devilchuk17 said:
Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Well I wouldn't say a must... Quality varies per each batch of glass for their phones. Remember Sony uses their own screen glass technology so if you have a big scratch and don't know why its a probable quality control issue. I've had my Z3 for about 3 months now naked both sides. Not even a micro scratch I could see on the screen and that goes for my Z3 Tablet Compact too. You should be able to keep this phone naked if you be careful (duh) like not putting you phone with sharp objects like keys and maybe cleaning out your pockets once in a while... If a freak accident happens well those always suck but there's no way to stop that other than insuring your phone. Its probably the reason HTC's "Uh-Oh!" service has been getting the talk lately.
I believe on Sony's Z3 Compact forum it was mentioned that they use either GG3 or Dragontrail X, I'm guessing same for the Z3 you may get one or the other though GG3 is slightly more scratch resistant according to tests.
I used some Decal Skin covers which looked good but eventually started to peel off so i removed them and my Z3 was "naked" for about 10 days until the tempered screen and back protector arrived. In that time I have a huge mysterious scratch on the back on the device and also a smaller one! I could not believe it i actually thought it was a hair that was stuck to it, this big long windy scratch....
The weird thing is i haven't really left the house through studying for exams..... very strange.
Its also incredibly slippy "naked" so that's another consideration you need to make.
I would definately go for the tempered glass, i got mine for £4 from Amazon (front and back) and they're awesome, it also makes the screen kinda "jump out" and colours look great.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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In your case, I don't think it's a scratch but a screen crack! Take a look closer under direct sunlight to be fixed
Over on another (swedish) forum we're seeing some rather disturbing reports of screens cracking for seemingly no reason.
Some have reported cracks after simply placing their phone on a table, others by just having it in their pocket.
Do we have XDA member with similar experiences?
Given the number of times it has dropped from the table because it's so rediculously slippery, to no ill effect on the glass, it doesn't seem too bad. I might have been lucky, though.
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It doesn't crack easily, but it seems to happen yeah.
I know this was an issue with the Z2 as well (know 1 or 2 ppl suffering from it) and hope it's not a wide-spread one with the Z3. The fact that it performs as some hoovercraft thingie floating over flat services is kinda annoying though, fell a few times here as well already but luckily no damage so far.
phones have glass screens. Glass screens break on some occasions. Water is wet.
add every report you can find and what do we get? 20? lets make it 100. Of 100 000 phones sold (which is serious lowballing) that is 0.1%.
so even if it seems bad it's not really an issue
As long as iitgets repaired by Sony you mean....
of course, like on the z2.
i think a lot of people are just careless.. i mean who buys this type of phone and already in less than 2 days of owning it, they managed to cracked the screen by dropping it or sitting on it while in their pocket. sh*t happens but if people were more careful i doubt we'd be seeing all these 'broken screen' threads.
IMO the z2 was one of the most sturdy glass screen phones ever, this z2 drop test is pretty amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
so unless something in the glass was changed between the two versions i don't see how the z3 can be any worse than the z2.
Well I accidentally tested the sturdiness of the phone when I pulled my jacket up and forgot that phone was on top of it. Well nice 1,5m fall with some momentum and not a single scratch. Phew.
Its Gorilla Glass 3, so I don't think it should be any weaker or stronger than other Gorilla Glass 3 phones out there. Any quality issues is probably Corning's fault.
Update: according to Sony they use both Gorrila glass 3 and Dragontrail glass. I have heard Dragontrail is slightly less scratch resistant but thats about it.
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I have heard Dragontrail is slightly less scratch resistant but thats about it.
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On the contrary, Dragontail is harder than GG3...... resists scratches more - but at the detriment to viewing angle quality which is why DT is on the back.
I didnt't notice ANY scratch resistance of the glass backplane. Just use it carefully for a few days - enjoy a nice collection of scratches to stay. Deeply disappointing.
Agreed, seems no matter how careful I am it'll just pick up tiny scratches on the back..seemingly from little specs of dust..I don't understand.
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On the contrary, Dragontail is harder than GG3...... resists scratches more - but at the detriment to viewing angle quality which is why DT is on the back.
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There is a table in this link, it shows GG3 as being higher on the hardness scalle by small amount over Dragontrail.
http://en.miui.com/thread-39439-1-1.html
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ladelfm said:
Agreed, seems no matter how careful I am it'll just pick up tiny scratches on the back..seemingly from little specs of dust..I don't understand.
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Wow, you guys are scaring me.
I think the cracked screen problem is not from dropping it, or sitting on it. It's that the screen cracks by itself even when just sitting on a table somewhere. People are blaming the temperature difference between a hot phone and a cool surface for stressing the glass and cracking it.
I dunno, I'm in no hurry to upgrade just yet, we'll see.
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I posted some pics in another thread here. Hoping it's just a fault with the device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56122962&postcount=7
BBC Watchdog did a story on this for the Z1, now there are new complaints coming in about similar issues on the Z3.
BBC Watchdog link for Z1:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/3...peria-z1-cracking-screen-issue-sony-responds/
I chose this phone over the M8 due to the Camera, I kept insureance for the Z3 with T-Mobile just in case I get this issue when my phone arrives. Depending on how things turn out with more and more people complaining, I might just have to get the M8.
HTC gives free one time cracked/damaged screen replacement within 6 months in US as part of HTC Advantage. Sony should do the same, especially with their screen issues.
There are theories about uneven expansion of surfaces under heat stress causing cracks due to the way the glass is glued.
I have not experienced the cracking issue but I did notice a scratch on the glass on the back of the phone not even a week after getting it. It's not too bad, and not even really visible in direct light, but you bet I slapped a case on that thing as fast as I could.
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I have not experienced the cracking issue but I did notice a scratch on the glass on the back of the phone not even a week after getting it. It's not too bad, and not even really visible in direct light, but you bet I slapped a case on that thing as fast as I could.
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I'm sure its a minority getting this issue but still seems to be a lot more than other manufacturers which is alarming. I made my dad get the HTC M8 over the iPhone 6 just for HTCs' Advantage program of one time free screen replacement.
I'm so glad I bought the white version because I can barely see the scratches on the back! It used to drive me crazy on my old black Z1 :silly:
Hi, I have recently dropped my S7 and my screen broke, but it’s only smal black dot on side of amoled and one line trough glass. My biggest problem is that lower part of screen digitizer stoped working. I’ve searched all over ebay for new screen assembly with amoled and digitizer but it’s expensive ~170$. So I was thinking, can I replace only digitizer, they cost about 30-50$? I’m not sure because every video on YouTube that replaced only digitizer had fully working amoled. Do you guys have any experience? Any advice is appreciated
Hello,
As seen on some drop test videos, sometimes screen can be totally messed up but digitizer can still be working good. So my guess is that they work independently and so a new digitizer could work good even if the screen as some dead areas or lines etc...
But due to the fact that Samsung glue the glass with the digitizer and with the screen panel, it's a very difficult process to just remove the glass without scratching or breaking the Amoled panel. Better be well prepared to it, have the right tools and have a lot of dexterity and patience. It's already a big pain to separate the screen for the glass, so if you're planning to separate and replace only the digitizer, then good luck :-/
Before trying this, you still should call some repair centers to see how much it would cost for a screen replacement, but unfortunately it is most likely to be expensive. Also, be aware that buying yourself a screen replacement doesn't guarantee you that it will be an Amoled. A year ago, my brother broke his OnePlus 3 screen, and it was almost impossible to find an Amoled screen replacement, their description was saying Amoled, but by reading well, we could always find somewhere "TFT" or "LCD" which are not Amoled.
In the end, you have to be aware than any flagship phone cost an arm to repair, especially the screen as everything is glued and made for you not to be able to repair it yourself. So it is very highly recommended to protect your phone with cases and screen protectors (plastic screen protectors protect the screen better from shocks than glass screen protectors, even if plastic feels cheaper). Unless you have a lot of money and can easily pay a repair, protect your phone!
Sorry, that's all I can do for you...