[Q] Clear recent task or not? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry for n00b question....
Should I clear recent task or not?
I am rooted wit stock ROM + xposed + gravitybox + Franco kernel.
Earlier i had greenify and had poor battery life and more ram usage (I think greenify uses more ram)
Now i have uninstalled greenify. And battery life is improved.
Just want to know whether clearing recent task make any improvement or not?

lpganesh said:
Sorry for n00b question....
Should I clear recent task or not?
I am rooted wit stock ROM + xposed + gravitybox + Franco kernel.
Earlier i had greenify and had poor battery life and more ram usage (I think greenify uses more ram)
Now i have uninstalled greenify. And battery life is improved.
Just want to know whether clearing recent task make any improvement or not?
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Look here for more info on Ram management http://developer.android.com/training/articles/memory.html. Stopping some apps will not help that much as some apps restart themselves again.

lpganesh said:
Sorry for n00b question....
Should I clear recent task or not?
I am rooted wit stock ROM + xposed + gravitybox + Franco kernel.
Earlier i had greenify and had poor battery life and more ram usage (I think greenify uses more ram)
Now i have uninstalled greenify. And battery life is improved.
Just want to know whether clearing recent task make any improvement or not?
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Hi mate,
Having a high end device and clearing RAM again and again is not good because more amount of RAM usage in Android better would be the performance
This is only applicable to high end devices!
Btw how much battery backup does Franco kernel gives you?
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Mr hOaX said:
Hi mate,
Having a high end device and clearing RAM again and again is not good because more amount of RAM usage in Android better would be the performance
This is only applicable to high end devices!
Btw how much battery backup does Franco kernel gives you?
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With stock kernel, i used to hardly get 3 to 3.hrs of SOT (screen on time)
But with Franco kernal, I get 4 to 4.5 hrs SOT. Mainly I notice the change in battery consumption during sleep which helps me in having higher SOT.

lpganesh said:
Sorry for n00b question....
Should I clear recent task or not?
I am rooted wit stock ROM + xposed + gravitybox + Franco kernel.
Earlier i had greenify and had poor battery life and more ram usage (I think greenify uses more ram)
Now i have uninstalled greenify. And battery life is improved.
Just want to know whether clearing recent task make any improvement or not?
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Android manages RAM differently than other operating systems. In short, less RAM usage is not necessarily a good thing. Apps are stored in RAM so when you launch them, they are more readily available.
The operating system will automatically dump apps out of the background if more RAM is needed for whatever task you are completing at that moment.
If you're experiencing unusual battery drain - even when the device is sleeping - check out an application called Better Battery Stats. It will help you identify what apps are causing wakelocks.
I am using the stock kernel and have gotten over 5 hours of SOT on LTE in the course of a day's use - which is not unheard of.

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[Q] Kernel, ART or custom roms : what are your best solutions for battery saving ?

Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
zepretender said:
Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
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ART worked flawlessly (no issues) for me and noticeably increased battery life but incompatibility with xposed is a deal breaker.
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zepretender said:
Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
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Hello, I have been using ART since a week now and I have never had any major issues.
Some issues I had were:
Apps gets closed when you open them (just retry)
GUI bugs with Any.Do
alb3rtt said:
ART worked flawlessly (no issues) for me and noticeably increased battery life but incompatibility with xposed is a deal breaker.
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I've heared a lot about Xposed. What's this ? I can't find clear infos where I can install it...
zepretender said:
I've heared a lot about Xposed. What's this ? I can't find clear infos where I can install it...
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Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
And read the op and then try installing gravity box through the download button in xposed box, you will love it for sure
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battery life is determined by your personal usage, your person setup, your personal method of app management, and most importantly battery life is determined by the quality of your personal data/phone signal. everything else, including undervolting, only provides negligible results. thats why no matter what rom you are running, no matter what kernel you are running, no matter if you are using dalvik or ART, there are people that will say that it gives them great battery life while others say it doesnt give them great battery life.

[Q] terrible battery life on cm11

batery life is draining real fast on cynogenmod 11. is there some app or something to give me bettery battery life. i hear the kernal can be changed to increase battery life how is that possible???
better battery life
You should use a task killer to kill apps you are not using (especially before locking it.) Also use an app like set CPU to adjust the voltage and minimum clockspeed.
prezzi said:
batery life is draining real fast on cynogenmod 11. is there some app or something to give me bettery battery life. i hear the kernal can be changed to increase battery life how is that possible???
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you can use the greenify app...
I think its the best app for battery (Acc. to me)
Yes you can flash a custom kernal also if your phone has one!!!
divyamg28 said:
you can use the greenify app...
I think its the best app for battery (Acc. to me)
Yes you can flash a custom kernal also if your phone has one!!!
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so then do think custom roms use less battery life than stock roms.... and will a custom kernal save battery life?
and i will try the greenify app an let u knw how it goes
jbaker22 said:
You should use a task killer to kill apps you are not using (especially before locking it.) Also use an app like set CPU to adjust the voltage and minimum clockspeed.
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minimizing the clockspeed may slow the device down rite? so is there a toggle twitch for powersave and normal mode?
prezzi said:
so then do think custom roms use less battery life than stock roms.... and will a custom kernal save battery life?
and i will try the greenify app an let u knw how it goes
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many custom roms have tweaks to increase the battery life....and custom kernal will also save your battery too!!!
divyamg28 said:
many custom roms have tweaks to increase the battery life....and custom kernal will also save your battery too!!!
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so where then can i get a custom kernel for me device to save battery?
What is your device?
There are several things to do to save your battery. Hibernate apps with greenify is amazing. I've tested and really works. Decrease screen brightness and activity time, limit processes to 3 or 4 in development options also help a lot.

Does root/de-bloat make such a difference?

I have had my phone for just over a week.
I have no complaints. I just need more time to get used to the different UI after my HTC Vivid.
Battery life is great, I can get around two days with moderate use and about 3 hours screen on time.
I don't notice any lag or overheating. I have not yet inserted an SD card and not sure I am going to need with all the available space.
I have not rooted yet, everything is stock except that I loaded ART yesterday to give that a try.
Those of you have rooted/de-bloated after using the phone for some time (not those who rooted before leaving the store!) how much real difference did you notice in performance before and after?
Not sure it makes a difference as far as speed. My reasoning, I don't use those apps so why keep them. Also I don't want spy software on my phone with carrier iq.
yea also get Greenify. it will give you more control over what and when do your apps get to run. You will save more battery and free up more ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
kalani91 said:
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
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Yes indeed. About an hour to an hour and a half more. That's what i'm seeing at any rate. 45 hours between charges @ 5 hours of screen time.
There are many tweaks that I routinely apply to my phone that requires root or root apps. I feel limited without them
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
txtech89 said:
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
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It is in the greenify donation package if you also use xposed framework.
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txtech89 said:
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
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or...
you could uninstall it with root uninstaller, reinstall from the play store then it shouldn't be considered a system ap.
txtech89 said:
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
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Same as the post above this one, except I used titanium backup.
kalani91 said:
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
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I agree. I should have saved some of my battery stats prior to rooting, de-bloating, and installing greenify, but I can say with certainty that my battery performance has improved noticeably.
kalani91 said:
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
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In addition to battery life, I've also noticed a slight improvement in performance due to the bloatware not running in the background.
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Thanks all.
I will probably get to it soon. I just want to make sure I can follow how to get everything back to stock should the need arise.
I switched to ART a few days ago. Yesterday I got 40 hours with an estimated 8 hours left with the battery on 42% and SOT of 3h37m.
Today I was on wifi surfing from early plus some longer phone calls. Currently on 9h usage with 36h estimated left and SOT of 2h25m.
So things can only get better if I debloat.
You can disable all the preloaded apps without rooting. I seriously doubt rooting and deleting the apks is going to do anything besides free up space.
redhooka said:
You can disable all the preloaded apps without rooting. I seriously doubt rooting and deleting the apks is going to do anything besides free up space.
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you couldn't be more wrong... for one thing, getting rid of the carrierIQ crap requires root and it alone makes a world of difference. some of the things eating up resources can't simply be "disabled" in the Application Manager.

Does it make sense to use Greenify, Amplify and Recently in 6.0.1 Marshmallow ?

Hi XDA
Recently got CM 13 on the G2 and I'm happy with it.
I know there's been updates regarding app hibernation and general battery optimization in Marshmallow so I was wondering if it made sense to use the usual Greenify to hibernate apps, Amplify to reduce wakelock frequency and Recently to reduce recent menu clutter.
Thanks in advance.
ZareliMan said:
Hi XDA
Recently got CM 13 on the G2 and I'm happy with it.
I know there's been updates regarding app hibernation and general battery optimization in Marshmallow so I was wondering if it made sense to use the usual Greenify to hibernate apps, Amplify to reduce wakelock frequency and Recently to reduce recent menu clutter.
Thanks in advance.
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i would run it a bit and get an idea of your battery life compared to what it was. my phone came with m, si i cant compare, but my battery seems quite good.
a good question would be what besides doze did they add, and what of these was cm able to merge.
as far as doze, that only works when the phone sits in the same place for extended periods, like at night when your sleeping. thats what i was told anyways.
You are right !! Doze works only when the phone sits idle at one place. Hence greenify is still one popular app to have in our phones.
I think it does.
For example if you have low RAM and many apps you can avoid a lot of lag.
I use greenify on CM13 in my Nexus 7.

Xperia Z5 Compact high RAM usage / slow

Hi
My Xperia Z5 compact has always been a bit of a disappointment re speed; really no improvement over the z2, in fact picture and camera loading is painfully slow.
There's a number of threads around commenting on the same issues so I've just lived with it.
Now I've just upgraded to Marshmallow, the new memory manager shows a whopping 1.7gb usage (total 1.8gb, a measly 41mb free!!!) and drilling down, Android OS is using 900mb.
The next biggest is android system and google play services at around 110 mb each and everything else is below 100mb.
I'm astonished Android OS is taking over half my ram just to run, and this is when I'm not doing anything major on my phone... Just a few SMS, bit of browsing and a lot of not being used time.
This, combined with the generally slow speed leads me to question is this normal?
What's the expected ram usage on this device?
Anything I can look at to reduce the OS ram? Ideally I'd look at a non stock rom to remove bloatware but as far as I know this phone isn't rootable yet? Or can I still get a more efficient rom on board?
Many thanks
Rob
Android ram management is different than Windows os,they say in Android that free ram is wasted ram,in other meaning android will free up ram when needed so you will always see high ram usage.
Is the compact not 3GB ram? Mine looks like this -
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The Z5 Compact is 2GB RAM (http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/specifications/)
Looks like the Z5 (non compact) is 3GB.
You guys are aware, that you can smash down the ram usage of your phones right??
I made my device - Z5 (non compact version) - go from using a whopping 2.7GB of the 3GB of RAM to only about 1.4-1.7GB RAM usage
How and does it improve performance?
rjbathgate said:
How and does it improve performance?
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Of course.
How, you ask?
Answer)
Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
Answer)
Indeed, and battery life.
TheTecXpert said:
Of course.
How, you ask?
Answer)
Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
Answer)
Indeed, and battery life.
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Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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Its probably the amount of bloatware installed in his phone, things like facebook and other wakelocks really hog the phone battery, theres a good guide here on the forums on how to preserve battery life all without losing performance.
Here you go
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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In sleep mode you will notice the difference.. But in general it does improve battery life by a bit.. Maybe for everybody else its different..
Just remember all the pre installed bloatware on the phone hog the ram and run in the background..
Especially the weather app/widget.. Thats a battery killer
zacharias.maladroit said:
well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
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By normal, I mean force closing apps to save RAM. Normally they are just idling and using a little bit of RAM - doesn't hurt the battery. If the app is using the CPU a lot then there's probably a problem in the app and you should close it. Android has a pretty good RAM management system.
Getting rid of bloatware like Facebook ect is a good idea and will help your battery
Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
rjbathgate said:
Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
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Just disable the apps you don't use. That way they can't run for no reason using ram and system ota updates will still work fine
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