Root and still getting updates? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What is the best way to root device and still getting updates?
I don't want to install custom roms for now, need just root and that's it.
Thanks

If that's all you do, root, you'll still get the updates. You'll lose root when you update but it's easy to re-root. I'd look in the general forum stickies on how to root

Hi,
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47369234 :good:

BuzzFuzz said:
What is the best way to root device and still getting updates?
I don't want to install custom roms for now, need just root and that's it.
Thanks
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Hi mate,
You can find rooting procedure here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Doesn't seem like anyone mentioned this specifically, but yes, if you just root then you'll get the updates, but if the method you choose to root with involves changing the recovery to a custom one, then the update will fail. Make sure you stick (or go back to) with the stock recovery for prompt updates to work properly.

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[Q] OTA after root possible?

Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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Yes and no. If you stick with a stock ROM, you'll be able to download the OTAs/get notified about them. However, if you use ClockworkMod Recovery (which you really should) you won't be able to install the OTA. Well, it'll try but, it'll fail. The best bet is to be patient and one of the devs will release their versions of the new ROM.
abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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It might depend which method you used to root, but I doubt it. I did the rooting via the 'pure root' method and I receive the notifications.
Since I just backed up after updating to 8.5.5.6, I decided to see what happened if I clicked on the upgrade nag notification, and all it did was say that it cancelled it, and does not nag me now.
I have no clue if it'll do the same for everyone. We all follow a lot of paths to generally the same place in rooting, so not sure. I did have an HTC incredible actually unroot itself via an update notification, so I removed the OTA Certification services.
Well, thanks to both of you for the clarification!
Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?
abprie said:
Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?
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Yes. Just go into /system/app/ and delete superuser.apk. Just note that when you have root, you can't change a lot of the system files otherwise there will be problems with the OTA.
I would personally just rock custom ROMs. They get updated fast to the latest OTA. But that's just me.

Searching and searching, looking for eoot access

what is the sure way to root thunderbolt on the latest OTA, i was rooted before but lost root on the update i waited a few weeks before rooting again and now im searching if there is a way to root the device atm?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959 you need to go here you have to downgrade. Then you can use revolutionary
thank you for your support, after i downgrade how do i update and keep root?
You dont. Just run the downgraded. Or flash a custom rom if u want root. The radios from the upgrade are available in the dev section as well. If u want them. Supposidly better handoff betweeen 4g and 3g with the new radio
Andlamv said:
thank you for your support, after i downgrade how do i update and keep root?
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I know a little late on the scene and don't know if you figured this out but..
If you mean by "update", running the stock 605.9 then..
-after downgrading to 605.5 using the provided link
-root with revolutionary
-at that point you can flash the "rooted" version of 605.9 or any other ROM as mentioned before, this will allow you to keep root and prevent Big Red from trying to push the OTA

[Q&A] [Nexus 5] CF-Auto-Root

Q&A for [Nexus 5] CF-Auto-Root
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nexus 5 autoroot: downloading root.img failed
Hi Chainfire, thanks a lot for the program!
I actually just paypal'd you a symbolic euro for all the effort.
But after all, de root did not work completely yet,
after the selection menu 'unlock bootloader YES/NO' (I choose NO btw, will stay with the stockrom for a while),
i get the error message
' downloading boot.img FAILED (command write failed (No such file or Directory) ) '
I don't see anyone else reporting this problem on the thread, so my question: what could cause it? What can I do?
Extra inf:
I am on a windows system (7) and had the trouble with usb-driver that was not installed first, dont know if that influenced it?
flekkie said:
Hi Chainfire, thanks a lot for the program!
I actually just paypal'd you a symbolic euro for all the effort.
But after all, de root did not work completely yet,
after the selection menu 'unlock bootloader YES/NO' (I choose NO btw, will stay with the stockrom for a while),
i get the error message
' downloading boot.img FAILED (command write failed (No such file or Directory) ) '
I don't see anyone else reporting this problem on the thread, so my question: what could cause it? What can I do?
Extra inf:
I am on a windows system (7) and had the trouble with usb-driver that was not installed first, dont know if that influenced it?
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dont use root toolkits, as you will learn nothing, then think your phone is bricked when it needs some simple upkeep. its a nexus, its easy to root, no toolkits needed, unless you just dont want to learn anything/the basics.
Hi Simms22,
You're absolutely right, thanks for your remark.
Just for the sake of explaining why I tried the toolkit:
I literally just bought the phone (<24h), and I only wanted a quick access to the SU-privileges. I didn't want the unlock the bootloader and go for custom ROMs (yet).
I did this with my previous phone (sony xperia), and all the trouble I had with the process took me 1,5 full days to get the thing running again.
Just to say, I dont want to go all deep into it right now. If I could root my nexus with the tool, that'd be great, but if it isn't possible, I will first explore my new phone as a ordinary user I guess. Going trought all the flashing-nexus-infothreads if for later on.
Thanks for the advice!
flekkie said:
Hi Simms22,
You're absolutely right, thanks for your remark.
Just for the sake of explaining why I tried the toolkit:
I literally just bought the phone (<24h), and I only wanted a quick access to the SU-privileges. I didn't want the unlock the bootloader and go for custom ROMs (yet).
I did this with my previous phone (sony xperia), and all the trouble I had with the process took me 1,5 full days to get the thing running again.
Just to say, I dont want to go all deep into it right now. If I could root my nexus with the tool, that'd be great, but if it isn't possible, I will first explore my new phone as a ordinary user I guess. Going trought all the flashing-nexus-infothreads if for later on.
Thanks for the advice!
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Unlocking bootloader and using custom ROMs etc on a Nexus is no where near as complicated as it is on a Sony device (or any other) - in regards to if anything goes wrong, it usually takes 5mins or so to start from scratch on a Nexus again compared to Sony/Samsung etc.
Also remember, there is no warranty issues on a Nexus device either. So you can unlock/lock your BL as and when you see fit.
radicalisto said:
Unlocking bootloader and using custom ROMs etc on a Nexus is no where near as complicated as it is on a Sony device (or any other) - in regards to if anything goes wrong, it usually takes 5mins or so to start from scratch on a Nexus again compared to Sony/Samsung etc.
Also remember, there is no warranty issues on a Nexus device either. So you can unlock/lock your BL as and when you see fit.
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Ok, thanks a lot for your reply. It gave me confidence to try the 'unlock bootloder'-option, which worked like a charm
I am enjoying now the perks of a good titanium-datatranfer; I like!
See you around in a few months when I try custom ROMs!
Device already unlocked?
Hello,
I am also new to gaining root access on android devices, and I could use some help.
I have a Google Nexus 5, and followed the steps using CF Auto Root, but it only says <waiting for device> when started and wont proceed with anything. I have the device in bootloader and it tells me the Lock State is already unlocked. I haven't left CF Auto Root on <waiting for device> for more than 5 minutes, assuming it shouldn't take that long.
So I went ahead and installed SuperSU via Google Play to see what I could do, but SuperSU tells me that there is no SU binary installed, and that if I just upgraded to android 4.3, I will need to manually re-root. However, I have android 4.4.2.
I have used two different root checking applications, but they both told me that my device does not have proper root access.
Superuser also doesn't seem to work. It wont inform me when I try to use an app to perform root access actions.
Any help on what I could do next would be appreciated.
Thanks ~
Valdtun
Valdtun said:
Hello,
I am also new to gaining root access on android devices, and I could use some help.
I have a Google Nexus 5, and followed the steps using CF Auto Root, but it only says <waiting for device> when started and wont proceed with anything. I have the device in bootloader and it tells me the Lock State is already unlocked. I haven't left CF Auto Root on <waiting for device> for more than 5 minutes, assuming it shouldn't take that long.
So I went ahead and installed SuperSU via Google Play to see what I could do, but SuperSU tells me that there is no SU binary installed, and that if I just upgraded to android 4.3, I will need to manually re-root. However, I have android 4.4.2.
I have used two different root checking applications, but they both told me that my device does not have proper root access.
Superuser also doesn't seem to work. It wont inform me when I try to use an app to perform root access actions.
Any help on what I could do next would be appreciated.
Thanks ~
Valdtun
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Your best bet is to learn to do it manually.
Your next steps are
1) install recovery
2) flash superSU zip from recovery
Recovery is installed by fastboot.
In my signature, is a link to guides and info threads. Click it and then read the thread "adb and fastboot. What is it?"
This will tell you what you need.
Then you can download TWRP recovery image to flash.
Solved
It seems that my driver wasn't very compatible, and now my phone has been successfully unlocked. Thank you for the help.
rootSU said:
Your best bet is to learn to do it manually.
Your next steps are
1) install recovery
2) flash superSU zip from recovery
Recovery is installed by fastboot.
In my signature, is a link to guides and info threads. Click it and then read the thread "adb and fastboot. What is it?"
This will tell you what you need.
Then you can download TWRP recovery image to flash.
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I rooted my n5 running lollipop but some apps doesnt get the root access... I tried xmodgames ,es file explorer(root explorer option)
Any solution?
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myliferockkss said:
I rooted my n5 running lollipop but some apps doesnt get the root access... I tried xmodgames ,es file explorer(root explorer option)
Any solution?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Same here, none of the root explorers I tried seem to work.
Will the latest CF Auto Root wipe the storage on encrypted Nexus 5?
myliferockkss said:
I rooted my n5 running lollipop but some apps doesnt get the root access... I tried xmodgames ,es file explorer(root explorer option)
Any solution?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Try flashing pie patch. http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...x-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731/page2 (post #13).
If problem still exists, try to install SELinuxModeChanger from the play store and change SELinux mode to permissive.
root
This is not a full root... at least in my nexus 5..
There are thing that I am not aloowed to do like disable startup apps and give some apps# permission
myliferockkss said:
I rooted my n5 running lollipop but some apps doesnt get the root access... I tried xmodgames ,es file explorer(root explorer option)
Any solution?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Some root apps aren't working on lollipop right now. Root explorer on es file manager is one of these
ravi84m said:
Same here, none of the root explorers I tried seem to work.
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Search "amaze file manager" on the play store, it works flawlessly
Thanks, pie patch did the trick for me.
I had to use SELinux Mode Changer for viper though.
CF-Auto Root
Relocking the bootloader will not reset your warranty, for that you would have to run CWMbootunlocker script in twrp or cwm or philz. Oh and here is the link to a good thread to explain all that..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701
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myliferockkss said:
I rooted my n5 running lollipop but some apps doesnt get the root access... I tried xmodgames ,es file explorer(root explorer option)
Any solution?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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That is because of new SELinux polices which developers will need to workaround it ..
WARNING WARNING WARNING
You could use SELinux mode changer or run setenforce via term emulator and set it to permissive However!! this allows more malware to have access to your phone basiclly
Want to ROOT my N5, just root it, already unlocked bootloader.
Hi,
I just want to root my nexus 5. I am on Android 5.0, updated during the official rollout, and not using any custom flash/ROM.
Boot-loader is already unlocked, I had rooted it when on 4.4.4 Kitkat, but after I updated to Lollipop, all root priviledges were lost.
I do not want to flash any custom ROM or anything, just want to root it.
I found may threads and guides showing how to root is, but all of them included unlocking bootloader or flashing a custom ROM.
I dont even know what a custom ROM is and what is its use?!?! (noob)
Please just help me root my phone.
Thanks
vvk619 said:
Hi,
I just want to root my nexus 5. I am on Android 5.0, updated during the official rollout, and not using any custom flash/ROM.
Boot-loader is already unlocked, I had rooted it when on 4.4.4 Kitkat, but after I updated to Lollipop, all root priviledges were lost.
I do not want to flash any custom ROM or anything, just want to root it.
I found may threads and guides showing how to root is, but all of them included unlocking bootloader or flashing a custom ROM.
I dont even know what a custom ROM is and what is its use?!?! (noob)
Please just help me root my phone.
Thanks
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A couple of options:
1. Flash CF-Auto-Root
2. Boot to TWRP recovery and flash SuperSU.zip
Everything is well explained in the main CFAR thread or in the General sticky threads.
Apply update to version 2.37?
Hi all,
I rooted my Nexus 5 running Lollipop some time before with CF-Auto-Root. I think Chainfire still used a patched kernel in this approach and installed SuperSU v2.20.
Afaik Chainfire managed to get root without the need for a patched kernel now. Therefore I would like to update to v2.37. Can I? How? Would the kernel stay patched after using the latest CF-Auto-Root? Do I need to go back to the stock kernel before applying the latest CF-Auto-Root? And how to go back to the stock kernel?
Thanks for your help!
Maik

[Q] Upgrade to lollipop

I know there's still speculation about whether we're even getting the images today, but I want to be prepared.
I'm wondering about the best way for me to upgrade to lollipop. I've been searching the Internet all morning but I've been getting conflicting answers, so I want to clarify once and for all here...
I'm currently running kitkat 4.4.4 with the bootloader unlocked, clockworkmod installed, and root access gained. I'd like to avoid using toolkits if possible, and I'd hopefully like to avoid wiping all my data. I don't mind rerooting if I lose root, since that should be easy enough on a nexus device. I've read that rooted phones won't get an ota update, which is fine because I'd rather get it sooner than that anyways from Google's developer download page. I've also read that an upgrade from kitkat to lollipop definitely requires a wipe, but I figure there has to be a way around that. Can I use adb or fastboot? Or clockworkmod? Will these wipe the device? What are my options?
Thanks so much!
if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted version, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!
simms22 said:
if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted versiin, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!
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I'll write a thread tonight.
Please use the dedicated android L thread
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I've read a lot, still no clue how to root on 5.1

I've read a lot of guides both on this forum and using google. Some are saying to wipe the phone completely and flash SuperSU through TWRP, some are saying there is a chainfire auto-root method. Why am I like the only one confused? I just received my Nexus 5 (I know I'm late in the game), and updated to 5.1. I would like to root, but don't really know what the best way is. Should I just wait on a new, easier way that is currently in the development process?
Also I am reading I'd have to go back to stock to get any new OTA updates, and I read that can be kind of a PITA. So do you think root is still worth it? Honestly I just want viper4android, Adaway, and Greenify. That's it.
Thanks for the help and sorry for probably a very redundant question.
tuffluck said:
I've read a lot of guides both on this forum and using google. Some are saying to wipe the phone completely and flash SuperSU through TWRP, some are saying there is a chainfire auto-root method. Why am I like the only one confused? I just received my Nexus 5 (I know I'm late in the game), and updated to 5.1. I would like to root, but don't really know what the best way is. Should I just wait on a new, easier way that is currently in the development process?
Also I am reading I'd have to go back to stock to get any new OTA updates, and I read that can be kind of a PITA. So do you think root is still worth it? Honestly I just want viper4android, Adaway, and Greenify. That's it.
Thanks for the help and sorry for probably a very redundant question.
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As long as you're familiar with adb/fastboot run the following:
Code:
[U]From Bootloader[/U]
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery [URL="https://dl.twrp.me/hammerhead/twrp-2.8.6.1-hammerhead.img"]twrp-2.8.6.1-hammerhead.img[/URL]
Boot into recovery....
[U]From Recovery[/U]
adb sideload [URL="https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip?retrieve_file=1"]UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip[/URL]
tuffluck said:
I've read a lot of guides both on this forum and using google. Some are saying to wipe the phone completely and flash SuperSU through TWRP, some are saying there is a chainfire auto-root method. Why am I like the only one confused? I just received my Nexus 5 (I know I'm late in the game), and updated to 5.1. I would like to root, but don't really know what the best way is. Should I just wait on a new, easier way that is currently in the development process?
Also I am reading I'd have to go back to stock to get any new OTA updates, and I read that can be kind of a PITA. So do you think root is still worth it? Honestly I just want viper4android, Adaway, and Greenify. That's it.
Thanks for the help and sorry for probably a very redundant question.
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Both are right. There is a manual way (flashing SuperSU through TWRP) and there is an "automated" way (the chainfire auto-root). Pick your poison.
The manual way will most likely wipe your device because the "unlock" step does that. I'm honestly not sure about the auto-root method, but I'm going to guess it probably also wipes.
As for OTA, yes, you need a stock recovery to get OTA, because.... well... the OTA uses the stock recovery to update. Most people are of the mind that if you're the type of person who flashes a custom recovery like TWRP, you're also the type of person who doesn't care about OTAs (the .zip is typically posted here within hours of the OTA going live anyway).
There are risks and drawbacks to any kind of hacking of your phone. Risks obviously include bricking, but the drawbacks usually include having to wipe and reinstall things once in a while, and also the lack of OTAs. Pick your poison.
fosser2 said:
As long as you're familiar with adb/fastboot run the following:
Code:
[U]From Bootloader[/U]
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery [URL="https://dl.twrp.me/hammerhead/twrp-2.8.6.1-hammerhead.img"]twrp-2.8.6.1-hammerhead.img[/URL]
Boot into recovery....
[U]From Recovery[/U]
adb sideload [URL="https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip?retrieve_file=1"]UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip[/URL]
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Being a Nexus device this process is pretty straightforward and does not need all of the utilities to obtain root

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