what is the sure way to root thunderbolt on the latest OTA, i was rooted before but lost root on the update i waited a few weeks before rooting again and now im searching if there is a way to root the device atm?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959 you need to go here you have to downgrade. Then you can use revolutionary
thank you for your support, after i downgrade how do i update and keep root?
You dont. Just run the downgraded. Or flash a custom rom if u want root. The radios from the upgrade are available in the dev section as well. If u want them. Supposidly better handoff betweeen 4g and 3g with the new radio
Andlamv said:
thank you for your support, after i downgrade how do i update and keep root?
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I know a little late on the scene and don't know if you figured this out but..
If you mean by "update", running the stock 605.9 then..
-after downgrading to 605.5 using the provided link
-root with revolutionary
-at that point you can flash the "rooted" version of 605.9 or any other ROM as mentioned before, this will allow you to keep root and prevent Big Red from trying to push the OTA
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I've just recently registered but have been lurking for a while and doing a lot of reading. I've seen there are a bunch of different options for rooting a evo. Also seems like there's a lot of out dated ways to root as well. I'm still new to this and have some questions. Looking to have full root access. As far as I understand it, I will need to run a rom after rooting the device? Will I still be able to receive sprint updates as need once I root? My main reasons for rooting is for the wifi teether, maybe overclocking to speed it up a little bit and to remove the factory sprint apps. I did have a friend tell me that once his buddy rooted his evo he noticed his battery life was a lot better. Anyone experience that? What other info do I need to provide you? Thanks
Update: Was running 2.2 froyo till my phone just did the 2.3 gingerbread update and now my internet doesn't work. Is there any way to root now or am I screwed and have to deal with sprint?
You don't need to flash a rom after rooting but you definitely can. As far as updating, I'm not 100% sure about sprint, but I think you need to be stock to receive an OTA update. For rooting your device, use unrevoked, its an incredibly simple one click root program.
Unrevoked is the quick and easy way to root. Once rooted you WILL NOT get Sprint updates. If you get your 2.3 Sprint update and apply it you WON'T be able to root.
You can run stock 2.2 Android with Sense rooted and not load any ROMs. I do not know if you'll be able to wifi tether by only being rooted. I do know that there are several ROMs that have Android 2.3 Gingerbread and have wifi tether working so if you do root your 2.2 install Amon_Ra recovery then flash Cyanogen Mod 7. Instructions are on his Wiki which I can't post a link to since I'm new forum user here.
k_nivesout said:
You don't need to flash a rom after rooting but you definitely can. As far as updating, I'm not 100% sure about sprint, but I think you need to be stock to receive an OTA update. For rooting your device, use unrevoked, its an incredibly simple one click root program.
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Should I even worry about the OTA updates then?
Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
You are going to have to look at the temp root thread that is right here in this forum since she is on the newest update. You are kind of limited to what you can do unless a permanent root solution is found. Wireless tether should work. I think you may be able to remove or freeze the bloat using somethin like titanium but it will probably come back when you reboot. Can't use any custom roms yet either...
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Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
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The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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strapped365 said:
The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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crawrj said:
Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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Flashing clockworkMod while temp rooted isn't going to work, as soon as your phone tries to reboot you lose root. So you can't access Clockwork, which is how/where you flash ROMs. Currently there is no way to revert back to froyo, the new bootloaders do not recognize the froyo RUU. Basically until a perm root solution is found, temp root is the best you can do.
The ROMs that you see are for user that rooted while running froyo and never took the "official" update from HTC.
Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
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Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
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He said brand new so that means it came with 2.3.3
OK I will wait patiently until perma root has been established. Thank you all for all of the information.
Hi, I am waiting for my HTC Sensation to arrive from eBay. New to android and have been reading about rooting. Just want to make sure I am getting this clear:
So, to root, I'll need to to the S-off thing with revolution, then clockwork recovery, then SU to actually root it right?
I am not sure whether I need to root it, but I am interested in unlocking it for SIM and I read there's a way to do it if the phone is rooted. Also, I probably don't need some of the T-mobile apps and want to delete it. However, do I have necessarily have to flash a custom ROM after I rooted it? Can I just use what came with the HTC?
However, if I do this, I guess I can't update through HTC/T-mobile anymore right? So I'll have to flash some ROM, but does it have some modify ROM, or can I use the ROM that's official from HTC?
Can someone please correct me if I misunderstood the process? And also, can I reverse all this if I decide I just want to use it the way it was shipped except simunlocked, and be able to update newer version of the OS from HTC.
Thanks
Sensation rooting
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
pretty much yes to your questions...even if you root you can stay with your stock rom and just use titanium backup to delete all the junk u dont want. Also, even if you cant get updates officially, devs here are nice enuf to post the newest stock roms for you to flash so dont worry. so i suggest you read these three threads to start off and have fun (just read directions very carefully)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137311
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
edit: ah, i guess someone else was replying too
darryll4sh0 said:
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
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Thanks for the quick reply. So I can only remove some t-mobile apps if it's rooted right? I was thinking of updating to the newest version before considering rooting. I think I will be kinda in the same situation as you....so when you say stock rooted rom...it's basically the same ROM as what t-mobile has with SENSE etc...but can be apply to a rooted phone without losing root right?
Finally, since you're not using any custom ROM and stuff... do u find it worthwhile rooting? what other advantage have you notice if you're using the stock ROM?
Thanks again!
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My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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Great. I think I'll just stick with the 2.3.4 firmware for now before considering flashing any custom ROMs etc.
So just so I am clear, I should update the unrooted phone to 2.3.4 when I get it. then I can perform the S-off, clockwork, superuser to get it rooted and just leave it as it is and use the existing ROM as it came with the phone. Until I need to update to a higher version, I will then flash a rooted version of whatever t-mobile came out with from here. Is that the deal?
Finally, what's superCID? Do I need that?
Thanks again.. you guys been a great help! I can't wait to play around with this when I get the phone this weekend
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Yep your correct....
As for super CID is something like a carrier unlock. This has something to do with updates i think. but by adding this you can flash any carrier's rom onto your phone. for example vodafone and orange are both 2 different europe phone companies and they both include different apps on their roms just like tmobile give there special apps. With super-CID you can put anyone of those carries rom on you phone regardless if it's a europe, usa, or asia sensation. but you don't need- i haven't put it on either.
I just bought an unlocked 9023 nexus s for my sister in India. I am a flash-junkie on my verizon droid inc, but she is not tech savvy. I wanted to load up a good stable system for her before handing over the phone so she could use it as a daily machine. I was thinking about applying the stock 4.0.3 full update but then i saw some issues about wifi and signal and google halting it, so now im having second thoughts. if i do the 4.0.3 full update from recovery, can i go back to gb if i have problems?
will the phone keep getting all future ics upgrades through google?
is 4.0.3 stock rootable? and will root stay in upgrades? (so if i root and give her, Id like her to use titanium and stuff and not have to worry about losing root in future OTA.)
Thanks.
How about reading the stickies.
k.electron said:
I just bought an unlocked 9023 nexus s for my sister in India. I am a flash-junkie on my verizon droid inc, but she is not tech savvy. I wanted to load up a good stable system for her before handing over the phone so she could use it as a daily machine. I was thinking about applying the stock 4.0.3 full update but then i saw some issues about wifi and signal and google halting it, so now im having second thoughts. if i do the 4.0.3 full update from recovery, can i go back to gb if i have problems?
will the phone keep getting all future ics upgrades through google?
is 4.0.3 stock rootable? and will root stay in upgrades? (so if i root and give her, Id like her to use titanium and stuff and not have to worry about losing root in future OTA.)
Thanks.
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Nexus devices can always have their bootloaders unlocked and then install superuser afterward. When unlocking the bootloader all of her data will be lost.
Root is disable on OTA updates because permissions get adjusted. You can run a fix permissions in CWM or reflash a superuser zip file after the OTA to get root again.
You can go back to GB by flashing an old system image using fastboot if you don't like ICS.
superm1 said:
Nexus devices can always have their bootloaders unlocked and then install superuser afterward. When unlocking the bootloader all of her data will be lost.
Root is disable on OTA updates because permissions get adjusted. You can run a fix permissions in CWM or reflash a superuser zip file after the OTA to get root again.
You can go back to GB by flashing an old system image using fastboot if you don't like ICS.
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thanks.
exactly what i needed to know. i might just put ics and give it to her without root so she can keep getting OTAs because i dont think she really needs root.
Hi, this might be stupid to ask but I really need answer for this -
1. I know that with rooted stock OS one cannot get OTA updates, but can anybody get OTA updates with unlocked bootloader - non-rooted stock OS ?
2. Also all the guides I have found to unroot a xoom is asking to flash a stock OS, which will erase all the data & all the customization which I have made. Is there is no way possible to unroot the current rooted stock OS without losing out the small customization.
I came in here looking for the same answer... want to update, I'm rooted, but can't get it OTA this way.
Go to Development and the first post by stachre is rooted stock ICS 4.0.3, cwm flashable zip.
Thats just fr wifi, while i m on 3g build
Still waiting fr an answer :-(
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You DONT need to unroot for to get a ota.
The ota is NOT out for the 3g version or any other version at this point.
If EVERYTHING else is stock besides root the ota will install.
The state of the bootloader does not matter either.
I think there's a chance to brick your device if you do an OTA update after you unlock your bootloader?
So if you really want to try 4.0 then I would recommend the TeamEOS roms, they have roms for both the wifi only and the 3G versions.
No there is no chance.
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You DONT need to unroot for to get a ota.
The ota is NOT out for the 3g version or any other version at this point.
If EVERYTHING else is stock besides root the ota will install.
The state of the bootloader does not matter either.
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thanks matey , just 1 clarify require on your statement.
my mz601 xoom's current state is unlocked bootloader, cwm recovery, rooted with stock 3.2 OS with a small change in framework-res.apk to send sms.
for this situation also your point stands right?
No.
I put the word everything in caps for a reason.... nothing that is supposed to be there can be changed or deleted. Includes apks recovery.... you know everything