Hi, this might be stupid to ask but I really need answer for this -
1. I know that with rooted stock OS one cannot get OTA updates, but can anybody get OTA updates with unlocked bootloader - non-rooted stock OS ?
2. Also all the guides I have found to unroot a xoom is asking to flash a stock OS, which will erase all the data & all the customization which I have made. Is there is no way possible to unroot the current rooted stock OS without losing out the small customization.
I came in here looking for the same answer... want to update, I'm rooted, but can't get it OTA this way.
Go to Development and the first post by stachre is rooted stock ICS 4.0.3, cwm flashable zip.
Thats just fr wifi, while i m on 3g build
Still waiting fr an answer :-(
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You DONT need to unroot for to get a ota.
The ota is NOT out for the 3g version or any other version at this point.
If EVERYTHING else is stock besides root the ota will install.
The state of the bootloader does not matter either.
I think there's a chance to brick your device if you do an OTA update after you unlock your bootloader?
So if you really want to try 4.0 then I would recommend the TeamEOS roms, they have roms for both the wifi only and the 3G versions.
No there is no chance.
albundy2010 said:
You DONT need to unroot for to get a ota.
The ota is NOT out for the 3g version or any other version at this point.
If EVERYTHING else is stock besides root the ota will install.
The state of the bootloader does not matter either.
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thanks matey , just 1 clarify require on your statement.
my mz601 xoom's current state is unlocked bootloader, cwm recovery, rooted with stock 3.2 OS with a small change in framework-res.apk to send sms.
for this situation also your point stands right?
No.
I put the word everything in caps for a reason.... nothing that is supposed to be there can be changed or deleted. Includes apks recovery.... you know everything
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I just bought an unlocked 9023 nexus s for my sister in India. I am a flash-junkie on my verizon droid inc, but she is not tech savvy. I wanted to load up a good stable system for her before handing over the phone so she could use it as a daily machine. I was thinking about applying the stock 4.0.3 full update but then i saw some issues about wifi and signal and google halting it, so now im having second thoughts. if i do the 4.0.3 full update from recovery, can i go back to gb if i have problems?
will the phone keep getting all future ics upgrades through google?
is 4.0.3 stock rootable? and will root stay in upgrades? (so if i root and give her, Id like her to use titanium and stuff and not have to worry about losing root in future OTA.)
Thanks.
How about reading the stickies.
k.electron said:
I just bought an unlocked 9023 nexus s for my sister in India. I am a flash-junkie on my verizon droid inc, but she is not tech savvy. I wanted to load up a good stable system for her before handing over the phone so she could use it as a daily machine. I was thinking about applying the stock 4.0.3 full update but then i saw some issues about wifi and signal and google halting it, so now im having second thoughts. if i do the 4.0.3 full update from recovery, can i go back to gb if i have problems?
will the phone keep getting all future ics upgrades through google?
is 4.0.3 stock rootable? and will root stay in upgrades? (so if i root and give her, Id like her to use titanium and stuff and not have to worry about losing root in future OTA.)
Thanks.
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Nexus devices can always have their bootloaders unlocked and then install superuser afterward. When unlocking the bootloader all of her data will be lost.
Root is disable on OTA updates because permissions get adjusted. You can run a fix permissions in CWM or reflash a superuser zip file after the OTA to get root again.
You can go back to GB by flashing an old system image using fastboot if you don't like ICS.
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Nexus devices can always have their bootloaders unlocked and then install superuser afterward. When unlocking the bootloader all of her data will be lost.
Root is disable on OTA updates because permissions get adjusted. You can run a fix permissions in CWM or reflash a superuser zip file after the OTA to get root again.
You can go back to GB by flashing an old system image using fastboot if you don't like ICS.
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thanks.
exactly what i needed to know. i might just put ics and give it to her without root so she can keep getting OTAs because i dont think she really needs root.
what is the sure way to root thunderbolt on the latest OTA, i was rooted before but lost root on the update i waited a few weeks before rooting again and now im searching if there is a way to root the device atm?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959 you need to go here you have to downgrade. Then you can use revolutionary
thank you for your support, after i downgrade how do i update and keep root?
You dont. Just run the downgraded. Or flash a custom rom if u want root. The radios from the upgrade are available in the dev section as well. If u want them. Supposidly better handoff betweeen 4g and 3g with the new radio
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thank you for your support, after i downgrade how do i update and keep root?
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I know a little late on the scene and don't know if you figured this out but..
If you mean by "update", running the stock 605.9 then..
-after downgrading to 605.5 using the provided link
-root with revolutionary
-at that point you can flash the "rooted" version of 605.9 or any other ROM as mentioned before, this will allow you to keep root and prevent Big Red from trying to push the OTA
I know this may be a completely lame and stupid question but here goes... I rooted my Xoom by this method ( ROOT Telstra from the Latest HC3.1 Update + Unsecured New Boot Image ) and all is fine but after I did this I noticed the 3.2 Official Update and now the ICS update. To get to the point I tried to revert back to standard OFW but had a failure on applying it. So my question is can I apply an OFFICIAL upgrade to a rooted Xoom without unrooting? I like the xoom even as it is but I don't want to end up with a paper weight!
Any help will be appreciated... (BTW as you can gather I have a Telstra Aussie Xoom running the 3.1 firmware in the link above)
If you have CLOCK WORK MOD installed ,I am certain that you will have to unroot and relock boot loader to get the update to install. Although it will download and attempt to install the update it will not . It will just boot into CWM every time.
You will need to reinstall the official firmware via adb if you are running non-official firmwares.
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Hi...
Sorry for being pessimistic, but... No there's no way to update officially without unrooting... Try reinstalling the official firmware (WARNING: IT WILL WIPE ALL YOUR BELOVED PHOTOS, MUSICS, EVERYTHING!!!). Relocking the boot loader and then try updating again.
To return to stock ROM, try LordAIOTool for Linux it has a nice Stock Install feature hope I helped
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Thanks for the replies, that was my feeling as well. For another question if I can succeed in restoring the OFW to upgrade, can I re-root it when running either 3.2 or 4.xx ?
I need rooting for running a couple of applications I have and for accessing HDD attached to the USB port. I don't want to put on Custom Firmware unless it is just a modified version of the OFW similar to the CFW I am running now. If so any links for just rooting...
Thanks again.
Yes, you can reroot , just search a little
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I'm on a verizon SCH-I535 running android 4.1.2 (baseband I535VRBMF1, kernel 3.0.31-1152558, build jzo54k.i535vrbmf1, hardware version i535.10). I rooted the device a couple years ago, and have rejected OTA updates, ever since I received the 4.1.2 one (in fact, I used a file manager, to rename some files, so I wouldnt get the pop-up telling me there was an OTA update anymore). Everything is, as it was required to be, in order to get root access on 4.1.2, I just followed the instructions I found on xda.
Now that android 4.4.2 is available, and there is an easy root for it, what is the easiest way for me to move from where I am to 4.4.2 rooted? Am I supposed to follow the instructions in the "Reset your phone in order to return to Verizon" sticky? If so, how do I know if my bootloader is 'locked' or 'unlocked'? Alternatively to these instructions I was thinking of doing a "full unroot" with superSU then simply doing an OTA update, but wasnt sure if that would introduce issues.
Finally, in terms of doing a backup, I downloaded an app called "online nandroid" which supposedly saved a backup to my sd card. But my sd card is tiny, and the backup went really quick, so what exactly is it backing up? Is it enough of a backup that if I want to do a full restore back to exactly the state my phone is in now later, I can do that, or do I need a different tool for that?
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I'm on a verizon SCH-I535 running android 4.1.2 (baseband I535VRBMF1, kernel 3.0.31-1152558, build jzo54k.i535vrbmf1, hardware version i535.10). I rooted the device a couple years ago, and have rejected OTA updates, ever since I received the 4.1.2 one (in fact, I used a file manager, to rename some files, so I wouldnt get the pop-up telling me there was an OTA update anymore). Everything is, as it was required to be, in order to get root access on 4.1.2, I just followed the instructions I found on xda.
Now that android 4.4.2 is available, and there is an easy root for it, what is the easiest way for me to move from where I am to 4.4.2 rooted? Am I supposed to follow the instructions in the "Reset your phone in order to return to Verizon" sticky? If so, how do I know if my bootloader is 'locked' or 'unlocked'? Alternatively to these instructions I was thinking of doing a "full unroot" with superSU then simply doing an OTA update, but wasnt sure if that would introduce issues.
Finally, in terms of doing a backup, I downloaded an app called "online nandroid" which supposedly saved a backup to my sd card. But my sd card is tiny, and the backup went really quick, so what exactly is it backing up? Is it enough of a backup that if I want to do a full restore back to exactly the state my phone is in now later, I can do that, or do I need a different tool for that?
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In order to move to the 4.4.2 update you'll have to unroot, but keep in mind if you do your bootloader will be PERMANENTLY locked, no going back
The backup of stock is normally somewhere between 2-3gb or more, it didn't do the full backup. I highly doubt it's a full backup. Once you take the OTA to 4.4.2 your stuck and there is no going back
Your best bet is to install a custom recovery, cwm, twrp or philz or similar. If you want to take the OTA your free to but once again there's no custom roms after that. No CM or AOSP after you take the OTA
From my S3 running BlissStalk
ShapesBlue said:
In order to move to the 4.4.2 update you'll have to unroot, but keep in mind if you do your bootloader will be PERMANENTLY locked, no going back
The backup of stock is normally somewhere between 2-3gb or more, it didn't do the full backup. I highly doubt it's a full backup. Once you take the OTA to 4.4.2 your stuck and there is no going back
Your best bet is to install a custom recovery, cwm, twrp or philz or similar. If you want to take the OTA your free to but once again there's no custom roms after that. No CM or AOSP after you take the OTA
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Thank you for your response.
I do not care about custom ROMS, I am ok with the stock android OS, as long as I can get root. If the OTA update permanently locks my bootloader I am ok with that.
That said, I want to ensure I dont have any incidents when I do the OTA update. (that I dont brick my device. or make things more difficult for myself.) It doesnt look like I currently have a custom recovery (I tried to boot into custom recovery but the phone simply boots normally. I can however boot into stock android recovery). Also, my bootloader is currently unlocked.
Given that I dont currently have a custom recovery, and that my bootloader is currently unlocked, will that present any issue if I simply do a full unroot using superSU, and then take the OTA update? I used triangle away earlier today to reset my flash counter to 0 (it was 1 before).
loonytoon500 said:
Thank you for your response.
I do not care about custom ROMS, I am ok with the stock android OS, as long as I can get root. If the OTA update permanently locks my bootloader I am ok with that.
That said, I want to ensure I dont have any incidents when I do the OTA update. (that I dont brick my device. or make things more difficult for myself.) It doesnt look like I currently have a custom recovery (I tried to boot into custom recovery but the phone simply boots normally. I can however boot into stock android recovery). Also, my bootloader is currently unlocked.
Given that I dont currently have a custom recovery, and that my bootloader is currently unlocked, will that present any issue if I simply do a full unroot using superSU, and then take the OTA update? I used triangle away earlier today to reset my flash counter to 0 (it was 1 before).
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It shouldn't but the OTA will lock in back up
From my S3 running BlissStalk
ShapesBlue said:
It shouldn't but the OTA will lock in back up
From my S3 running BlissStalk
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Ok, i unrooted, and tried to take the OTA update, but a quarter of the way through the update, the update fails/stops, and it shows a lying android, with a red exclamation triangle over it; then the phone simply reboots and says "sorry, there was a problem updating your SAMSUNG SCH-I535. No changes were made." I read something about how this could be the case if I froze some stock apps, but how do I check if any stock apps are frozen? I dont remember doing so but its certainly possible.
What course of action do you recommend? It sounds like I will need to go through the process of rerooting again. I've read I can reflash the 4.1.2 stock rom and then do the OTA update, but I dont want to wipe data. The no wipe version is linked to here, but the firmware links there appears to be broken.
loonytoon500 said:
Ok, i unrooted, and tried to take the OTA update, but a quarter of the way through the update, the update fails/stops, and it shows a lying android, with a red exclamation triangle over it; then the phone simply reboots and says "sorry, there was a problem updating your SAMSUNG SCH-I535. No changes were made." I read something about how this could be the case if I froze some stock apps, but how do I check if any stock apps are frozen? I dont remember doing so but its certainly possible.
What course of action do you recommend? It sounds like I will need to go through the process of rerooting again. I've read I can reflash the 4.1.2 stock rom and then do the OTA update, but I dont want to wipe data. The no wipe version is linked to here, but the firmware links there appears to be broken.
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After all the reading I've done in order to take the OTA you have to unroot. I don't know the complete process as I am not on any OTA
From my S3 running BlissStalk
Even if you dont care about custom ROMs right now you may in the future when there are no updates released for the phone or you want to sell it and could have gotten a higher price with the lower system version. Before you update try some of the ROMs out and see if there are some you like and if you dont like any then update.
That being said I have updated using ODIN and the firmware I got from this site. look around and you will find the stuff you need.
i ended up flashing a 4.1.1 stock no wipe rom i found and after that i could take the ota updates (had to do multiple in a row).
out of curiosity couldn't the devs find a way to unlock the bootloader via some hackery in the future?
loonytoon500 said:
i ended up flashing a 4.1.1 stock no wipe rom i found and after that i could take the ota updates (had to do multiple in a row).
out of curiosity couldn't the devs find a way to unlock the bootloader via some hackery in the future?
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Sure it's possible, but unlikely. To put into perspective, I don't believe there has been a bootloader unlock for Verizon Notes 2-4 and Galaxy S4-5 (which would allow one to natively run AOSP without Safestrap) so the likelihood is low.
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So as the title says, I recently sunshine unlocked my 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) MAXX. At this point, I have a custom recovery from the root method I used on the phone a year ago, but other than that I'm just running the stock 4.2.2 Camera update.
What is the easiest way to get up and running on a current 4.4.4 build? Can I use RSDlite to return to stock 4.2.2, or does that not work with an unlocked bootloader? Could I RSDlite to 4.4.4 directly? What about flashing TWRP to my phone now and using that to flash a 4.4.4 rom? I dont care about losing all of my data or anything like that.
I'm a little confused on what I can and can't flash depending on the current version of andoid I'm on, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
now that your bootloader is unlocked you can have root on any fw version you decide to update to. but you have to be on stock everything before you update to 4.4.4. if the recovery is the only thing you have changed you can just extract it from the fxz for 4.2.2 if that's what your on right now. flash it using fastboot or the easy way using rashr an app from play store. my fav for flashing recoveries. then take the update. after that you can flash T.W.R.P 2.8.4.0 for obake. then reboot to recovery. reboot to system to gain root if it is removed by updating
Thanks for the reply. I'll look into flashing that recovery and try the OTA. Would flashing the whole fxz (which i believe includes a bootlader) hurt me? Also, is there any way one of the OTA's changes the bootloader in a way that could mess up my unlock?
no. once your bootloader is unlocked then it won't relock unless you lock it by command prompt. yes you could use rsd to go back to stock. it has to be the exact version you are currently on. if you try to rsd a version your not on it will fail.
Will it fail in a "your phone is bricked" kind of way or an error message telling you it wont flash?
it will error telling it was aborted. i have done it once that's all it took for me to realise it needed the exact version. i was lucky to have the right one handy
here is a site for all the stock firmware.
http://motofirmware.center/files/category/
I'm in the same boat and going to do this tonight on my wife's phone.
She's currently on 4.2.2, bootloader is unlocked, rooted, and currently has TWRP installed.
If I'm correct, I need to
1. Flash stock recovery
2. Boot up and take the OTAs
then
3. Flash the latest TWRP
4. Use TWRP to re-root
4. Then I can flash a 4.4.4 rom, such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716824
Is that correct?
As long as my bootloader is unlocked, can I still regain root with the latest OTA?
Thanks guys, just making sure as the wife will be miffed if I screw up her phone!
Honestly, I doubt you have waited this long, but if you have, here is what I am gathering from your question... You want to run 4.4.4 roms instead of 4.2? While on 4.2.2 (if you still are) you can run OSE, AOSB, CM11, and pretty much any 4.4.4 custom rom. (though i can't get cm12 to work on a mini (same software/bootloader/recovery for the most part) on 19.6.3 so that may be out) The only reason you would have to update would be to be on stock 4.4.4. I haven't read up too much on the new OTA's, but I can say this, YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK TO WHAT YOU ARE ON ONCE YOU UPGRADE STOCK. this may not be a big deal for you, but personally, I liked the JB software the best (specifically 12.7.7 that my DEV MAXX came with) I haven't heard anyone say anything positive (really) about VOLTE or any new features, and honestly, not being able to go back on a DEV EDITION sucks. On a side note, I recently bought a Mini (bc my charge port on my DEV maxx crapped out and Moto doesn't have any more, so i am in phone purgatory waiting for *something* but pretty much anyone I have talked to is useless.) I just fxz'd back to 19.5.3 from 19.6.3, but I cannot go backwards any further *completely* @NWKENT has done it numerous times as best as it *can* be done. also, @NWKENT can confirm you absolutely cannot go back from 4.4.4 to an earlier edition. I hope this helps if you haven't upgraded yet. If you have, for most intents and purposes, you haven't really lost anything.