So as the title says, I recently sunshine unlocked my 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) MAXX. At this point, I have a custom recovery from the root method I used on the phone a year ago, but other than that I'm just running the stock 4.2.2 Camera update.
What is the easiest way to get up and running on a current 4.4.4 build? Can I use RSDlite to return to stock 4.2.2, or does that not work with an unlocked bootloader? Could I RSDlite to 4.4.4 directly? What about flashing TWRP to my phone now and using that to flash a 4.4.4 rom? I dont care about losing all of my data or anything like that.
I'm a little confused on what I can and can't flash depending on the current version of andoid I'm on, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
now that your bootloader is unlocked you can have root on any fw version you decide to update to. but you have to be on stock everything before you update to 4.4.4. if the recovery is the only thing you have changed you can just extract it from the fxz for 4.2.2 if that's what your on right now. flash it using fastboot or the easy way using rashr an app from play store. my fav for flashing recoveries. then take the update. after that you can flash T.W.R.P 2.8.4.0 for obake. then reboot to recovery. reboot to system to gain root if it is removed by updating
Thanks for the reply. I'll look into flashing that recovery and try the OTA. Would flashing the whole fxz (which i believe includes a bootlader) hurt me? Also, is there any way one of the OTA's changes the bootloader in a way that could mess up my unlock?
no. once your bootloader is unlocked then it won't relock unless you lock it by command prompt. yes you could use rsd to go back to stock. it has to be the exact version you are currently on. if you try to rsd a version your not on it will fail.
Will it fail in a "your phone is bricked" kind of way or an error message telling you it wont flash?
it will error telling it was aborted. i have done it once that's all it took for me to realise it needed the exact version. i was lucky to have the right one handy
here is a site for all the stock firmware.
http://motofirmware.center/files/category/
I'm in the same boat and going to do this tonight on my wife's phone.
She's currently on 4.2.2, bootloader is unlocked, rooted, and currently has TWRP installed.
If I'm correct, I need to
1. Flash stock recovery
2. Boot up and take the OTAs
then
3. Flash the latest TWRP
4. Use TWRP to re-root
4. Then I can flash a 4.4.4 rom, such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716824
Is that correct?
As long as my bootloader is unlocked, can I still regain root with the latest OTA?
Thanks guys, just making sure as the wife will be miffed if I screw up her phone!
Honestly, I doubt you have waited this long, but if you have, here is what I am gathering from your question... You want to run 4.4.4 roms instead of 4.2? While on 4.2.2 (if you still are) you can run OSE, AOSB, CM11, and pretty much any 4.4.4 custom rom. (though i can't get cm12 to work on a mini (same software/bootloader/recovery for the most part) on 19.6.3 so that may be out) The only reason you would have to update would be to be on stock 4.4.4. I haven't read up too much on the new OTA's, but I can say this, YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK TO WHAT YOU ARE ON ONCE YOU UPGRADE STOCK. this may not be a big deal for you, but personally, I liked the JB software the best (specifically 12.7.7 that my DEV MAXX came with) I haven't heard anyone say anything positive (really) about VOLTE or any new features, and honestly, not being able to go back on a DEV EDITION sucks. On a side note, I recently bought a Mini (bc my charge port on my DEV maxx crapped out and Moto doesn't have any more, so i am in phone purgatory waiting for *something* but pretty much anyone I have talked to is useless.) I just fxz'd back to 19.5.3 from 19.6.3, but I cannot go backwards any further *completely* @NWKENT has done it numerous times as best as it *can* be done. also, @NWKENT can confirm you absolutely cannot go back from 4.4.4 to an earlier edition. I hope this helps if you haven't upgraded yet. If you have, for most intents and purposes, you haven't really lost anything.
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Hello. I have a XT925 running 4.1.2. The phone was rooted a long time ago. I don't remember if I installed a recovery, nor which recovery (if any) was installed at the time (volume up + power yields a boot mode selection menu; it seems to be the original bootloader).
My carrier released the 4.4.2 OTA just today. When I try to update, the phone reboots and displays an "Update failed" error message. I uninstalled as many apps as AdAway and XPosed that I think could be tampering with the process, but still I can't install the update.
How can I update to KitKat? (If it isn't obvious by now, I don't follow most of the technicalities of this things with Android. I'm fairly knowledgeable about computers, just not Android. I've read a lot of threads here and still can't figure out how to do this!)
Will I be able to re-root the phone afterwards? Will I be able to unlock it?
Thanks!
unless you have some concerns about warranty, I suggest go ahead and unlock bootlocader via moto website. Then you are free to do as you please, meaning uprade to kk stock, custom rom and root without hassle.
hbenz2008 said:
unless you have some concerns about warranty, I suggest go ahead and unlock bootlocader via moto website. Then you are free to do as you please, meaning uprade to kk stock, custom rom and root without hassle.
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Ok, I did it (and lost everything on the phone in the process). The phone said it was unlocked. The phone is now back to stock, clean 4.1.2. But I still can't update. I get the same "update failed" error message.
What should I do?
Dont panic! haha you will get it done I have no doubt.
First did you factory reset after all was done. Do that and try again
if not, there are other ways , some easier than others but all within your capabilities
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...tutorial-make-motorola-razr-hd-xt925-t2916465
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760840&page=3
I'm on a verizon SCH-I535 running android 4.1.2 (baseband I535VRBMF1, kernel 3.0.31-1152558, build jzo54k.i535vrbmf1, hardware version i535.10). I rooted the device a couple years ago, and have rejected OTA updates, ever since I received the 4.1.2 one (in fact, I used a file manager, to rename some files, so I wouldnt get the pop-up telling me there was an OTA update anymore). Everything is, as it was required to be, in order to get root access on 4.1.2, I just followed the instructions I found on xda.
Now that android 4.4.2 is available, and there is an easy root for it, what is the easiest way for me to move from where I am to 4.4.2 rooted? Am I supposed to follow the instructions in the "Reset your phone in order to return to Verizon" sticky? If so, how do I know if my bootloader is 'locked' or 'unlocked'? Alternatively to these instructions I was thinking of doing a "full unroot" with superSU then simply doing an OTA update, but wasnt sure if that would introduce issues.
Finally, in terms of doing a backup, I downloaded an app called "online nandroid" which supposedly saved a backup to my sd card. But my sd card is tiny, and the backup went really quick, so what exactly is it backing up? Is it enough of a backup that if I want to do a full restore back to exactly the state my phone is in now later, I can do that, or do I need a different tool for that?
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I'm on a verizon SCH-I535 running android 4.1.2 (baseband I535VRBMF1, kernel 3.0.31-1152558, build jzo54k.i535vrbmf1, hardware version i535.10). I rooted the device a couple years ago, and have rejected OTA updates, ever since I received the 4.1.2 one (in fact, I used a file manager, to rename some files, so I wouldnt get the pop-up telling me there was an OTA update anymore). Everything is, as it was required to be, in order to get root access on 4.1.2, I just followed the instructions I found on xda.
Now that android 4.4.2 is available, and there is an easy root for it, what is the easiest way for me to move from where I am to 4.4.2 rooted? Am I supposed to follow the instructions in the "Reset your phone in order to return to Verizon" sticky? If so, how do I know if my bootloader is 'locked' or 'unlocked'? Alternatively to these instructions I was thinking of doing a "full unroot" with superSU then simply doing an OTA update, but wasnt sure if that would introduce issues.
Finally, in terms of doing a backup, I downloaded an app called "online nandroid" which supposedly saved a backup to my sd card. But my sd card is tiny, and the backup went really quick, so what exactly is it backing up? Is it enough of a backup that if I want to do a full restore back to exactly the state my phone is in now later, I can do that, or do I need a different tool for that?
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In order to move to the 4.4.2 update you'll have to unroot, but keep in mind if you do your bootloader will be PERMANENTLY locked, no going back
The backup of stock is normally somewhere between 2-3gb or more, it didn't do the full backup. I highly doubt it's a full backup. Once you take the OTA to 4.4.2 your stuck and there is no going back
Your best bet is to install a custom recovery, cwm, twrp or philz or similar. If you want to take the OTA your free to but once again there's no custom roms after that. No CM or AOSP after you take the OTA
From my S3 running BlissStalk
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In order to move to the 4.4.2 update you'll have to unroot, but keep in mind if you do your bootloader will be PERMANENTLY locked, no going back
The backup of stock is normally somewhere between 2-3gb or more, it didn't do the full backup. I highly doubt it's a full backup. Once you take the OTA to 4.4.2 your stuck and there is no going back
Your best bet is to install a custom recovery, cwm, twrp or philz or similar. If you want to take the OTA your free to but once again there's no custom roms after that. No CM or AOSP after you take the OTA
From my S3 running BlissStalk
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Thank you for your response.
I do not care about custom ROMS, I am ok with the stock android OS, as long as I can get root. If the OTA update permanently locks my bootloader I am ok with that.
That said, I want to ensure I dont have any incidents when I do the OTA update. (that I dont brick my device. or make things more difficult for myself.) It doesnt look like I currently have a custom recovery (I tried to boot into custom recovery but the phone simply boots normally. I can however boot into stock android recovery). Also, my bootloader is currently unlocked.
Given that I dont currently have a custom recovery, and that my bootloader is currently unlocked, will that present any issue if I simply do a full unroot using superSU, and then take the OTA update? I used triangle away earlier today to reset my flash counter to 0 (it was 1 before).
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Thank you for your response.
I do not care about custom ROMS, I am ok with the stock android OS, as long as I can get root. If the OTA update permanently locks my bootloader I am ok with that.
That said, I want to ensure I dont have any incidents when I do the OTA update. (that I dont brick my device. or make things more difficult for myself.) It doesnt look like I currently have a custom recovery (I tried to boot into custom recovery but the phone simply boots normally. I can however boot into stock android recovery). Also, my bootloader is currently unlocked.
Given that I dont currently have a custom recovery, and that my bootloader is currently unlocked, will that present any issue if I simply do a full unroot using superSU, and then take the OTA update? I used triangle away earlier today to reset my flash counter to 0 (it was 1 before).
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It shouldn't but the OTA will lock in back up
From my S3 running BlissStalk
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It shouldn't but the OTA will lock in back up
From my S3 running BlissStalk
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Ok, i unrooted, and tried to take the OTA update, but a quarter of the way through the update, the update fails/stops, and it shows a lying android, with a red exclamation triangle over it; then the phone simply reboots and says "sorry, there was a problem updating your SAMSUNG SCH-I535. No changes were made." I read something about how this could be the case if I froze some stock apps, but how do I check if any stock apps are frozen? I dont remember doing so but its certainly possible.
What course of action do you recommend? It sounds like I will need to go through the process of rerooting again. I've read I can reflash the 4.1.2 stock rom and then do the OTA update, but I dont want to wipe data. The no wipe version is linked to here, but the firmware links there appears to be broken.
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Ok, i unrooted, and tried to take the OTA update, but a quarter of the way through the update, the update fails/stops, and it shows a lying android, with a red exclamation triangle over it; then the phone simply reboots and says "sorry, there was a problem updating your SAMSUNG SCH-I535. No changes were made." I read something about how this could be the case if I froze some stock apps, but how do I check if any stock apps are frozen? I dont remember doing so but its certainly possible.
What course of action do you recommend? It sounds like I will need to go through the process of rerooting again. I've read I can reflash the 4.1.2 stock rom and then do the OTA update, but I dont want to wipe data. The no wipe version is linked to here, but the firmware links there appears to be broken.
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After all the reading I've done in order to take the OTA you have to unroot. I don't know the complete process as I am not on any OTA
From my S3 running BlissStalk
Even if you dont care about custom ROMs right now you may in the future when there are no updates released for the phone or you want to sell it and could have gotten a higher price with the lower system version. Before you update try some of the ROMs out and see if there are some you like and if you dont like any then update.
That being said I have updated using ODIN and the firmware I got from this site. look around and you will find the stuff you need.
i ended up flashing a 4.1.1 stock no wipe rom i found and after that i could take the ota updates (had to do multiple in a row).
out of curiosity couldn't the devs find a way to unlock the bootloader via some hackery in the future?
loonytoon500 said:
i ended up flashing a 4.1.1 stock no wipe rom i found and after that i could take the ota updates (had to do multiple in a row).
out of curiosity couldn't the devs find a way to unlock the bootloader via some hackery in the future?
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Sure it's possible, but unlikely. To put into perspective, I don't believe there has been a bootloader unlock for Verizon Notes 2-4 and Galaxy S4-5 (which would allow one to natively run AOSP without Safestrap) so the likelihood is low.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
Hello friends, I am new to posting here, but have read lots, and appreciate the hard work the developers here have put in to making Android more enjoyable for users.
My situation:
About a year ago, I rooted my Droid Maxx XT1080 running 4.2.2 with 12.15.15 camera update using jcase's method. I have been very careful about clicking "Install Later" (not wanting to update to KitKat) when prompted for the 4.4 OTA update, but yesterday morning the prompt appeared under my finger as I was clicking something else, and I selected "Install Now" by accident. I am now stuck in a bootloop with no recovery to fall back on. After searching all day (here, and other places) , I can not find a valid link to download the 4.2.2 FXZ so that I can use RSD Lite or another method to return to stock firmware and correct the issue.
My questions:
Is there a valid link for the 4.2.2 12.15.15 update for XT1080M currently available? The one on droid-developers.org gives an error and I can not find another one.
Is there another method for returning to stock that doesn't require FXZ?
Can I use a FXZ for KitKat to fix my phone, or do I have to use the stock FXZ for my phone (12.15.15)?
I am not opposed to flashing stock KitKat and losing both Jelly Bean and root if it will recover my phone. I have my app data and contacts backed up (linked with my Google account) so I am not worried about starting fresh.
Sorry if this has been covered, but I have now spent hours searching and reading and have not come across a solution. If anyone can answer or at least point me in the right direction, you have my greatest thanks.
You cannot flash Jellybean from KitKat with a locked bootloader, but you should be able to flash a current (or newer) version of KitKat. Try flashing the following file from your bootloader: http://motofirmware.com/files/download/1063-1ff-obake-verizon-user-444-su6-7-release-keysxmlzip/
I had my bootloader unlocked using the exploit through the Chinese group offering the service. I think I paid $30 and it has been PRICELESS. I can flash anything I want to my phone, including previous versions of Android, custom ROMS and recoveries, and root. Sadly this guy is no longer offering codes, but this has happened before so keep your eye out in http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/china-middleman-t2751177 for an update. This thread might be an alternative, but I don't know how long until they devise a method for unlocking the bootloader in KitKat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Hey everyone. I was wondering if some here with a HTC One can point me in the right direction. I am looking to finally take the plunge and permanently root, flash a custom recovery, backup my stock, and install a new custom rom on my Verizon M8.
This is my first HTC device playing with, I have always had Motorola stuff and am pretty familiar with the process on those, but this HTC stuff is still a little blurry. S-on/off, CID, MID, RUUs????
I have been reading these forums for quite a bit and still a little unsure about what the steps would have to be. I am currently on the latest stock VZW temp rooted with the new weeksauce basically just to have tethering via a 3rd party app (Wifi tether router). I actually really, really like the stock Sense 6.0 UI and this phone is pretty much perfect all around.
What I want to do is, permanently root, install TWRP as that's what i've used on Moto and my Sammy Tab, backup my stock system so I can go back, and then install a custom ROM. Can TWRP on this do more than one ROM slot and run dual roms? What if everything gets jacked up and I have to go back to complete out of the box stock? How is that done with HTC? I think with Moto it was like an .FXZ file or something like that and you boot the phone into download mode and just flash that file from the computer and you're back to 100% stock. Same with Samsung using ODIN.
I'm also not sure what ROM I want to try, so I am open to suggestions there too. I would like to maybe try a pretty clean Lollipop ROM with good battery life and very stable. Would that be the GPE?
Thanks for reading and for any help.
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Hey everyone. I was wondering if some here with a HTC One can point me in the right direction. I am looking to finally take the plunge and permanently root, flash a custom recovery, backup my stock, and install a new custom rom on my Verizon M8.
This is my first HTC device playing with, I have always had Motorola stuff and am pretty familiar with the process on those, but this HTC stuff is still a little blurry. S-on/off, CID, MID, RUUs????
I have been reading these forums for quite a bit and still a little unsure about what the steps would have to be. I am currently on the latest stock VZW temp rooted with the new weeksauce basically just to have tethering via a 3rd party app (Wifi tether router). I actually really, really like the stock Sense 6.0 UI and this phone is pretty much perfect all around.
What I want to do is, permanently root, install TWRP as that's what i've used on Moto and my Sammy Tab, backup my stock system so I can go back, and then install a custom ROM. Can TWRP on this do more than one ROM slot and run dual roms? What if everything gets jacked up and I have to go back to complete out of the box stock? How is that done with HTC? I think with Moto it was like an .FXZ file or something like that and you boot the phone into download mode and just flash that file from the computer and you're back to 100% stock. Same with Samsung using ODIN.
I'm also not sure what ROM I want to try, so I am open to suggestions there too. I would like to maybe try a pretty clean Lollipop ROM with good battery life and very stable. Would that be the GPE?
Thanks for reading and for any help.
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First you need s-off/unlocked boot loader to perma root..also there is multi ROM support for this device. An if you want to return to pure stock cause something got messed up then you download the ruu an use fast boot via pc to flash your ruu.zip it will wipe your whole phone an return you to out of the box. if your looking for a sense Lollipop from. Santod has a nice ROM an you can also check out the ROM by andybones is also runs very nice an has themes an mod support. If you like GPE then there is one of those also for our device.
Thanks for the info. So in my reading up on doing this, is the "firewater" method of achieving S-off and root no longer working on this phone with 4.4.4? And also, as I understand it, the Sunshine method of achieving the two may or may not work on 4.4.4 either, kind of a 50/50 shot??? So I guess at this time it might just be worth it to wait until either the new sunshine is released or Verizon pushed the 5.0 update out and see what that is like.
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Thanks for the info. So in my reading up on doing this, is the "firewater" method of achieving S-off and root no longer working on this phone with 4.4.4? And also, as I understand it, the Sunshine method of achieving the two may or may not work on 4.4.4 either, kind of a 50/50 shot??? So I guess at this time it might just be worth it to wait until either the new sunshine is released or Verizon pushed the 5.0 update out and see what that is like.
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Firewater is dead....sunshine might work you can download the app for free an run it to see if it will work with your device is free too. Then if you want to run sunshine that's when you pay the 25...so I would advice against taking anymore ota till you r able to s-off.
Hello Everyone, been a long time lurker in these forums and had a question that I would really like yalls input on.
I have a Verizon Galaxy S 3 and I have it running Paranoid Android 4.6 Beta 5 that has also been encrypted. I am trying to flash a new rom on to my device but have been preceding cautiously since I know the encryption may cause problems. Currently I have teamwin recovery installed and it prompts me for the encryption code before stating, but always says I have the wrong code. If i bypass the code in the recovery, i can view files in my sd card but not off internal storage, so I don't know how this will effect flashing a rom from the sd to write over internal.
So I have a feeling I may have to odin back to stock and reroot, problem is I don't know what version to odin back to. I know that if I flash 4.3 onto the device I will not be able to unlock my bootloader again, and Im not sure if its possible for me to odin back to a previous version of stock without causing a brick.
Please throw in yalls input, I need every opinion I can get.
Is it possible for me to take my phone running on Paranoid Android 4.5 Beta 5 which says android version 4.4.4 and flash a Stock Rom thru odin at version 4.1.2 for example so i can reroot and unlock the bootloader again??
Thanks for your help in advance, and may this community live forever.
I would suggest to Odin back to 4.1.2, as 4.3 and up are locked
Sent from my Nexus 5
Thanks for the reply!
I was thinking going that route too, but needed a second opinion.
Do you think I could flash 4.1.2 over the rom if its running android version 4.4.4 .? I was hesitant to have already done cause I wasnt sure if it would cause a brick or not. I need a better understanding of Odins process of flashing the stock rom.
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Thanks for the reply!
I was thinking going that route too, but needed a second opinion.
Do you think I could flash 4.1.2 over the rom if its running android version 4.4.4 .? I was hesitant to have already done cause I wasnt sure if it would cause a brick or not. I need a better understanding of Odins process of flashing the stock rom.
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As long as your bootloader is unlocked to can yes. But, if your on one of the locked bootloaders do not even attempt to do that
Before you attempt to flash anything what version of Android are you currently on?
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That's what I needed to hear. Thank you.
I'm running 4.4.4 , its off a build of paranoid android. I also have unlocked my boot loader before I installed this ROM.