I was wondering if the play store will sell the D821 version on launch date along with the US market version D820.
My carrier uses LTE band 7, which means D821 is my only option.
It's like when the Nexus S came out. There was an US version with 3G freq, and then there was a Canada version with different 3G freq.
Any of you remember how it went for the Nexus S ?
I bought the canadian version of the NS on ebay to have it work with my carrier.
Thanks.
alzakx said:
I was wondering if the play store will sell the D821 version on launch date along with the US market version D820.
My carrier uses LTE band 7, which means D821 is my only option.
It's like when the Nexus S came out. There was an US version with 3G freq, and then there was a Canada version with different 3G freq.
Any of you remember how it went for the Nexus S ?
I bought the canadian version of the NS on ebay to have it work with my carrier.
Thanks.
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With the way the Play Store automatically region locks (and with no option to manually change regions), I doubt any Nexus 5 model will be sold outside of its intended market.
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With the way the Play Store automatically region locks (and with no option to manually change regions), I doubt any Nexus 5 model will be sold outside of its intended market.
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Does that mean that you can't use the Nexus 5 outside the USA?
I am in Panama, and I had planned to buy the Nexus 5 and bring it into the country with me. I used the GT-I9505 and I9300 here, so I'd like to know before I waste my money, if this is the case.
I assumed it would be functional on any GSM network.
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Does that mean that you can't use the Nexus 5 outside the USA?
I am in Panama, and I had planned to buy the Nexus 5 and bring it into the country with me. I used the GT-I9505 and I9300 here, so I'd like to know before I waste my money, if this is the case.
I assumed it would be functional on any GSM network.
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Oh, the GSM bands are the same on both models, it's just the LTE bands that are region-specific. D820 for the US, D821 for pretty much everywhere else it's sold.
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Oh, the GSM bands are the same on both models, it's just the LTE bands that are region-specific. D820 for the US, D821 for pretty much everywhere else it's sold.
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We don't have LTE here. Only HSPA+
That's all I need then, right?
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With the way the Play Store automatically region locks (and with no option to manually change regions), I doubt any Nexus 5 model will be sold outside of its intended market.
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Are you sure about this, I have never heard Google doing this and it would defeats the purpose of a Nexus. I owned every Nexus phone up to the 4 and they all work internationally. The device might not support all the frequencies, but they are fully unlocked and work anywhere.
eksasol said:
Are you sure about this, I have never heard Google doing this and it would defeats the purpose of a Nexus. I owned every Nexus phone up to the 4 and they all work internationally. The device might not support all the frequencies, but they are fully unlocked and work anywhere.
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Did you buy all of them from the play store?
If so, did you buy them on release date?
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Did you buy all of them from the play store?
If so, did you buy them on release date?
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I could be wrong though, but I bought mine either from online retaii, Nexus S from Newegg and GNex imported from Expansys, and a few 2nd hand versions which included Playstore version. The Nexus 4 was the first PlayStore version I bought, but I haven't bring it on international trips yet. I really don't think Google does this though since its not the point of the Nexus and I couldnt find any info on it online, it is possible some Nexus devices are released by specific carriers and gets region locked that way. However, I do know Google region lock their apps.
I only heard of Samsung doing region lock recently with their Note 3.
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Are you sure about this, I have never heard Google doing this and it would defeats the purpose of a Nexus. I owned every Nexus phone up to the 4 and they all work internationally. The device might not support all the frequencies, but they are fully unlocked and work anywhere.
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I do not mean that the phone is region locked. It is not. The Play Store itself is highly region specific. e.g. If you want to buy the Nexus 4 Charging Orb, that is not available from the UK Play Store. If nyou wanted to order it from the US Play Store, you cannot simply change a dropdown box from 'UK' to 'US', you have to (1) use a US-based proxy server (2) use a US-addressed credit/debit card (3) deliver to a US address.
According to the service manual, the GSM bands supported by both Nexus 5 models (D820, D821) are identical.
The difference is in the LTE band support. The D820 will work on LTE in the US, and D821 will work on LTE for EMEA, and there doesn't appear to be a far-eastern model (or at least, one has not leaked yet). It would be silly for Google to sell the D821 outside of the US, as the LTE bands would not be compatible with local networks (even though regular voice calling would work just fine).
Hello,
I am from India. I am a Software Developer, working in GNU/Linux platform. I am planning to buy a Smart Phone, which has Android OS, so that I can use it also for software development. Which phone is the best for this purpose ? I heard that Nexus5 is having stock android and receive updates faster. Is this the best phone for Software Development too ?
I have been looking at the following smart phones:
HTC Desire 700
HTC One Mini
HTC One Dual.
Lenovo VibeX
Nexus 5 (LG)
Please suggest. THanks.
The phones you've listed aren't even in the same league as the nexus 5
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The N5 is the current reference phone for Android. But then you knew that already. If price is an issue then buy an N4, or find a second-hand N5.
The phones you've listed aren't even in the same league as the nexus 5
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Yes, may be. I have just listed the phones available in the local shops here in my place. Nexus 5 is also available, which is around $485.
setspeed said:
The N5 is the current reference phone for Android. But then you knew that already. If price is an issue then buy an N4, or find a second-hand N5.
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I understand that N5 means Nexus5.
Even though I am a developer, I am new to the android platform. So I thought of checking with you guys. The price for Nexus5 is okay for me. Are there any different versions for Nexus5 ? (I am not able to post urls, to show you the Nexus5 which is available in India.)
Thanks.
If you have the cash for the Nexus 5 then it's by far the best phone for developers.
As far for models, there is is the D820 for North America, and D821 for the rest of the world.
As far as I know the only different is radio bands:
North America (D820) model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Rest of World (D821) model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
I would order from Google Play before I went to a shop around you for that price.
mistahseller said:
I would order from Google Play before I went to a shop around you for that price.
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I think I can order from Google directly and my friend will carry the phone to india for me. Please give me the exact url.
If you have the cash for the Nexus 5 then it's by far the best phone for developers.
As far for models, there is is the D820 for North America, and D821 for the rest of the world.
As far as I know the only different is radio bands:
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I understand that only D821 will work in India, not the D820. Am I correct ? Can I order the D821 directly from google ?
Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
I think I can order from Google directly and my friend will carry the phone to india for me. Please give me the exact url.
I understand that only D821 will work in India, not the D820. Am I correct ? Can I order the D821 directly from google ?
Thanks.
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Yes if you buy from Google play store India you will get D821..!
The only difference between D820 and D821 is the 4G bands supported,thats all..!
Cheers.:highfive:
shadowdevil said:
Yes if you buy from Google play store India you will get D821..!
The only difference between D820 and D821 is the 4G bands supported,thats all..!
Cheers.:highfive:
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okay. One doubt. Will the D820 work in India ? Or it works only in North America ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
okay. One doubt. Will the D820 work in India ? Or it works only in North America ?
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Not LTE but UMTS and HSPA will.
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All your questions answered
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Hello,
I am from India. I am a Software Developer, working in GNU/Linux platform. I am planning to buy a Smart Phone, which has Android OS, so that I can use it also for software development. Which phone is the best for this purpose ? I heard that Nexus5 is having stock android and receive updates faster. Is this the best phone for Software Development too ?
I have been looking at the following smart phones:
HTC Desire 700
HTC One Mini
HTC One Dual.
Lenovo VibeX
Nexus 5 (LG)
Please suggest. THanks.
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aniyan.rajan6 said:
Yes, may be. I have just listed the phones available in the local shops here in my place. Nexus 5 is also available, which is around $485.
I understand that N5 means Nexus5.
Even though I am a developer, I am new to the android platform. So I thought of checking with you guys. The price for Nexus5 is okay for me. Are there any different versions for Nexus5 ? (I am not able to post urls, to show you the Nexus5 which is available in India.)
Thanks.
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aniyan.rajan6 said:
I think I can order from Google directly and my friend will carry the phone to india for me. Please give me the exact url.
I understand that only D821 will work in India, not the D820. Am I correct ? Can I order the D821 directly from google ?
Thanks.
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aniyan.rajan6 said:
okay. One doubt. Will the D820 work in India ? Or it works only in North America ?
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Hello fellow mate
The Nexus 5, though pricey in India at 29k, is hands down the most value for money phone currently in the Indian Market. And I think with the given specs it also is reasonably 'future-proof' if an outdated phone is a concern for you.
Nexus phones are to a Developer, like candies are to a child If you're thinking of Android Development, Nexus is the way to go..
And regarding getting the phone, there are 2 versions as already stated in the previous posts. The one you might want to have is the D821 which is the international version. And though ordering it in the USA and getting it here might prove to be cheaper, it is not going to give you warranty. If you want to have a claim over warranty, I suggest buying it through Google Play India itself. And if you're bent on retaining warranty & getting it from USA, I would suggest getting international warranty (I personally do not have a clue on how it's done though)
Wish you luck for your new phone!!
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freak744 said:
Hello fellow mate
The Nexus 5, though pricey in India at 29k, is hands down the most value for money phone currently in the Indian Market. And I think with the given specs it also is reasonably 'future-proof' if an outdated phone is a concern for you.
Nexus phones are to a Developer, like candies are to a child If you're thinking of Android Development, Nexus is the way to go..
And regarding getting the phone, there are 2 versions as already stated in the previous posts. The one you might want to have is the D821 which is the international version. And though ordering it in the USA and getting it here might prove to be cheaper, it is not going to give you warranty. If you want to have a claim over warranty, I suggest buying it through Google Play India itself. And if you're bent on retaining warranty & getting it from USA, I would suggest getting international warranty (I personally do not have a clue on how it's done though)
Wish you luck for your new phone!!
Press THANKS if I helped you
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I was not aware of Google Play India. I thought I can order only from Google USA and ship it to India. Also there is an impression that the products sold in USA is having the best quality. I don't know if it is correct or not in the case of Nexus5.
I understand that D821 is the version that works with the bandwidths available in India. D820 works only in North America. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Another question is : I saw some reviews in youtube. They say that Nexus5 is having a problem with Auto-Focus.
( I am not able to post urls. So please goto youtube and type "Erica Griffin Nexus 5". )
What is your opinion about this ?
Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Also there is an impression that the products sold in USA is having the best quality. I don't know if it is correct or not in the case of Nexus5.
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Who told you that? All Nexus 5's are same... Manufactured by LG. Doesn't differ in build quality from country to country. However, defects can be there on any device.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
I understand that D821 is the version that works with the bandwidths available in India. D820 works only in North America. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Yes, if you buy a D820 unit, you can kiss 4g good bye in India. Indian 4g bands vary from north America.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Another question is : I saw some reviews in youtube. They say that Nexus5 is having a problem with Auto-Focus.
( I am not able to post urls. So please goto youtube and type "Erica Griffin Nexus 5". )
What is your opinion about this ?
Thanks.
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No auto focus problems here. The Nexus 5 is one of the best camera phones I've used! The recent update has even improved the shutter speed a lot.
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vin4yak said:
Who told you that? All Nexus 5's are same... Manufactured by LG. Doesn't differ in build quality from country to country. However, defects can be there on any device.
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I was saying, generally there is such an impression among people in India. But I don't know if it is true or not in the case of smartphones.
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Yes, if you buy a D820 unit, you can kiss 4g good bye in India. Indian 4g bands vary from north America.
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okay, so 4g in India works only with D821, the international version.
vin4yak said:
No auto focus problems here. The Nexus 5 is one of the best camera phones I've used! The recent update has even improved the shutter speed a lot.
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okay, but it is shown as a big problem in that youtube video that I have specified in my previous post. I know that it won't be as good as a Canon DSLR camera, but I am comparing the camera that comes with smartphones.
Which one is good for an average user 16GB or 32GB, as Nexus5 doesn't have the memory expansion ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
okay, but it is shown as a big problem in that youtube video that I have specified in my previous post. I know that it won't be as good as a Canon DSLR camera, but I am comparing the camera that comes with smartphones.
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Take a look at tur general section and check the camera reviews by other users and also check the images taken by the Nexus 5..it pretty much beats many smartphones of it's class!
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Which one is good for an average user 16GB or 32GB, as Nexus5 doesn't have the memory expansion ?
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Pretty much depends on your needs.. If you are a heavy user and play games and store videos on your device, 16gb(12.5 user available) will not be enough! I would strongly suggest you to get the 32gig(26.76 user available).
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vin4yak said:
Take a look at tur general section and check the camera reviews by other users and also check the images taken by the Nexus 5..it pretty much beats many smartphones of it's class!
Pretty much depends on your needs.. If you are a heavy user and play games and store videos on your device, 16gb(12.5 user available) will not be enough! I would strongly suggest you to get the 32gig(26.76 user available).
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Yes, I think I will go for the 32 gig one. It is just 3k rupees more.
When I started this discussion, I thought Nexus is not a good phone. But now I came to know that Nexus5 is the most hackable smart phone that runs Android.
What is the difference between buying the phone from Google Play India and buying from the local shops in India ? Why did you suggest Google Play India ? Is there any benefit ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Yes, I think I will go for the 32 gig one. It is just 3k rupees more.
When I started this discussion, I thought Nexus is not a good phone. But now I came to know that Nexus5 is the most hackable smart phone that runs Android.
What is the difference between buying the phone from Google Play India and buying from the local shops in India ? Why did you suggest Google Play India ? Is there any benefit ?
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Google covers warranty if you have bought from Google Play which is excellent whereas if you buy from a retailer, LG provides warranty.
Difference is that, Google allegedly provides a brand new device if there's a hardware failure whereas LG will replace the motherboard or the specific part which is faulty.
One more benefit which you get with Google is that they don't care whether you root the device. They replace the device irrespective whether you have flashed a custom rom on it or done anything else with it whereas with LG, you will need to get back to fully stock before sending the device in for repairs!
Besides warranty, the device costs 1k less than the retail stores.. However, if you buy from an online retailer, you can avail ongoing discounts so finally it actually burns down to warranty.
I have bought mine from Croma (Tata Enterprise) and have also bought extended 1 year warranty from them.. So my device is covered for the next 2 years!
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Google covers warranty if you have bought from Google Play which is excellent whereas if you buy from a retailer, LG provides warranty.
Difference is that, Google allegedly provides a brand new device if there's a hardware failure whereas LG will replace the motherboard or the specific part which is faulty.
One more benefit which you get with Google is that they don't care whether you root the device. They replace the device irrespective whether you have flashed a custom rom on it or done anything else with it whereas with LG, you will need to get back to fully stock before sending the device in for repairs!
Besides warranty, the device costs 1k less than the retail stores.. However, if you buy from an online retailer, you can avail ongoing discounts so finally it actually burns down to warranty.
I have bought mine from Croma (Tata Enterprise) and have also bought extended 1 year warranty from them.. So my device is covered for the next 2 years!
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okay, So basically it is the flexibility in warranty terms. I think I will order from Google Play India.
Another question that I have is the following. Maybe this one sounds weird, but I have this in my mind for a long time.
I am not new to the mobile devices. I have worked in Pocket PC during 2002-2003 period. It runs WinCE and I was programming in VC++ and .NET in it. We were having the PocketPC devices, but for convenience, we were using the emulators. Thus we were able to test the applications that we develop, without having the device in our hand. This was fine for the Application Development that we were doing. So the question is why can't we use emulators for the developments in Android ? Is it because of the limitations ? Why the programmers don't prefer emulators and always use the Phone itself for testing the software ?
Thanks.
We do have emulators, in the Android sdk. It doesn't help with everything though. There's no substitute for an actual device.
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Custom Rom != Voiding warranty?
vin4yak said:
Difference is that, Google allegedly provides a brand new device if there's a hardware failure whereas LG will replace the motherboard or the specific part which is faulty.
One more benefit which you get with Google is that they don't care whether you root the device. They replace the device irrespective whether you have flashed a custom rom on it or done anything else with it whereas with LG, you will need to get back to fully stock before sending the device in for repairs!
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Are you pretty sure about what you just said?
I know about the replacement policy and have 'RMA'd my N5 once, but does flashing a custom ROM really not void warranty?:silly:
P.S.:I had bought the device from Google.....