I was wondering if the play store will sell the D821 version on launch date along with the US market version D820.
My carrier uses LTE band 7, which means D821 is my only option.
It's like when the Nexus S came out. There was an US version with 3G freq, and then there was a Canada version with different 3G freq.
Any of you remember how it went for the Nexus S ?
I bought the canadian version of the NS on ebay to have it work with my carrier.
Thanks.
alzakx said:
I was wondering if the play store will sell the D821 version on launch date along with the US market version D820.
My carrier uses LTE band 7, which means D821 is my only option.
It's like when the Nexus S came out. There was an US version with 3G freq, and then there was a Canada version with different 3G freq.
Any of you remember how it went for the Nexus S ?
I bought the canadian version of the NS on ebay to have it work with my carrier.
Thanks.
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With the way the Play Store automatically region locks (and with no option to manually change regions), I doubt any Nexus 5 model will be sold outside of its intended market.
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With the way the Play Store automatically region locks (and with no option to manually change regions), I doubt any Nexus 5 model will be sold outside of its intended market.
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Does that mean that you can't use the Nexus 5 outside the USA?
I am in Panama, and I had planned to buy the Nexus 5 and bring it into the country with me. I used the GT-I9505 and I9300 here, so I'd like to know before I waste my money, if this is the case.
I assumed it would be functional on any GSM network.
donalgodon said:
Does that mean that you can't use the Nexus 5 outside the USA?
I am in Panama, and I had planned to buy the Nexus 5 and bring it into the country with me. I used the GT-I9505 and I9300 here, so I'd like to know before I waste my money, if this is the case.
I assumed it would be functional on any GSM network.
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Oh, the GSM bands are the same on both models, it's just the LTE bands that are region-specific. D820 for the US, D821 for pretty much everywhere else it's sold.
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Oh, the GSM bands are the same on both models, it's just the LTE bands that are region-specific. D820 for the US, D821 for pretty much everywhere else it's sold.
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We don't have LTE here. Only HSPA+
That's all I need then, right?
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With the way the Play Store automatically region locks (and with no option to manually change regions), I doubt any Nexus 5 model will be sold outside of its intended market.
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Are you sure about this, I have never heard Google doing this and it would defeats the purpose of a Nexus. I owned every Nexus phone up to the 4 and they all work internationally. The device might not support all the frequencies, but they are fully unlocked and work anywhere.
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Are you sure about this, I have never heard Google doing this and it would defeats the purpose of a Nexus. I owned every Nexus phone up to the 4 and they all work internationally. The device might not support all the frequencies, but they are fully unlocked and work anywhere.
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Did you buy all of them from the play store?
If so, did you buy them on release date?
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Did you buy all of them from the play store?
If so, did you buy them on release date?
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I could be wrong though, but I bought mine either from online retaii, Nexus S from Newegg and GNex imported from Expansys, and a few 2nd hand versions which included Playstore version. The Nexus 4 was the first PlayStore version I bought, but I haven't bring it on international trips yet. I really don't think Google does this though since its not the point of the Nexus and I couldnt find any info on it online, it is possible some Nexus devices are released by specific carriers and gets region locked that way. However, I do know Google region lock their apps.
I only heard of Samsung doing region lock recently with their Note 3.
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Are you sure about this, I have never heard Google doing this and it would defeats the purpose of a Nexus. I owned every Nexus phone up to the 4 and they all work internationally. The device might not support all the frequencies, but they are fully unlocked and work anywhere.
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I do not mean that the phone is region locked. It is not. The Play Store itself is highly region specific. e.g. If you want to buy the Nexus 4 Charging Orb, that is not available from the UK Play Store. If nyou wanted to order it from the US Play Store, you cannot simply change a dropdown box from 'UK' to 'US', you have to (1) use a US-based proxy server (2) use a US-addressed credit/debit card (3) deliver to a US address.
According to the service manual, the GSM bands supported by both Nexus 5 models (D820, D821) are identical.
The difference is in the LTE band support. The D820 will work on LTE in the US, and D821 will work on LTE for EMEA, and there doesn't appear to be a far-eastern model (or at least, one has not leaked yet). It would be silly for Google to sell the D821 outside of the US, as the LTE bands would not be compatible with local networks (even though regular voice calling would work just fine).
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are there any branded nexus models or are they all unbranded no matter what network they come on?
also i hear hangouts is massively annoying being the sms app. will installing the 4.3 sms app work?
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Google Play Store selling 2 unbranded variants - one for the Americas and one for the rest of the planet (Euro & Asia) due to bands used by carriers, that's far less than the iOS products sold for their eco systems. And, both are unlocked - there are unconfirmed rumors that those sold directly by Sprint (with CDMA/LTE bands) might - MIGHT - have extra bloats loaded as they resell them with a highly marked up price for postpaid contract customers.
Otherwise, mine came from Google directly and running T-Mobile USA sim, and there is nothing else on it.
Letitride said:
Google Play Store selling 2 unbranded variants - one for the Americas and one for the rest of the planet (Euro & Asia) due to bands used by carriers, that's far less than the iOS products sold for their eco systems. And, both are unlocked - there are unconfirmed rumors that those sold directly by Sprint (with CDMA/LTE bands) might - MIGHT - have extra bloats loaded as they resell them with a highly marked up price for postpaid contract customers.
Otherwise, mine came from Google directly and running T-Mobile USA sim, and there is nothing else on it.
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I have a Sprint Nexus 4 on T-mobile. Same exact phone. Same model number, same build number, and 100% factory unlocked with ZERO bloat. So that rumor is confirmed. I also got best buy to price match the play store price.
so hopefully it won't matter what network i go on, the phone should be bloatware free?
do you have any regrets getting it?
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Hello,
I am from India. I am a Software Developer, working in GNU/Linux platform. I am planning to buy a Smart Phone, which has Android OS, so that I can use it also for software development. Which phone is the best for this purpose ? I heard that Nexus5 is having stock android and receive updates faster. Is this the best phone for Software Development too ?
I have been looking at the following smart phones:
HTC Desire 700
HTC One Mini
HTC One Dual.
Lenovo VibeX
Nexus 5 (LG)
Please suggest. THanks.
The phones you've listed aren't even in the same league as the nexus 5
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The N5 is the current reference phone for Android. But then you knew that already. If price is an issue then buy an N4, or find a second-hand N5.
The phones you've listed aren't even in the same league as the nexus 5
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Yes, may be. I have just listed the phones available in the local shops here in my place. Nexus 5 is also available, which is around $485.
setspeed said:
The N5 is the current reference phone for Android. But then you knew that already. If price is an issue then buy an N4, or find a second-hand N5.
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I understand that N5 means Nexus5.
Even though I am a developer, I am new to the android platform. So I thought of checking with you guys. The price for Nexus5 is okay for me. Are there any different versions for Nexus5 ? (I am not able to post urls, to show you the Nexus5 which is available in India.)
Thanks.
If you have the cash for the Nexus 5 then it's by far the best phone for developers.
As far for models, there is is the D820 for North America, and D821 for the rest of the world.
As far as I know the only different is radio bands:
North America (D820) model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Rest of World (D821) model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
I would order from Google Play before I went to a shop around you for that price.
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I would order from Google Play before I went to a shop around you for that price.
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I think I can order from Google directly and my friend will carry the phone to india for me. Please give me the exact url.
If you have the cash for the Nexus 5 then it's by far the best phone for developers.
As far for models, there is is the D820 for North America, and D821 for the rest of the world.
As far as I know the only different is radio bands:
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I understand that only D821 will work in India, not the D820. Am I correct ? Can I order the D821 directly from google ?
Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
I think I can order from Google directly and my friend will carry the phone to india for me. Please give me the exact url.
I understand that only D821 will work in India, not the D820. Am I correct ? Can I order the D821 directly from google ?
Thanks.
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Yes if you buy from Google play store India you will get D821..!
The only difference between D820 and D821 is the 4G bands supported,thats all..!
Cheers.:highfive:
shadowdevil said:
Yes if you buy from Google play store India you will get D821..!
The only difference between D820 and D821 is the 4G bands supported,thats all..!
Cheers.:highfive:
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okay. One doubt. Will the D820 work in India ? Or it works only in North America ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
okay. One doubt. Will the D820 work in India ? Or it works only in North America ?
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Not LTE but UMTS and HSPA will.
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All your questions answered
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Hello,
I am from India. I am a Software Developer, working in GNU/Linux platform. I am planning to buy a Smart Phone, which has Android OS, so that I can use it also for software development. Which phone is the best for this purpose ? I heard that Nexus5 is having stock android and receive updates faster. Is this the best phone for Software Development too ?
I have been looking at the following smart phones:
HTC Desire 700
HTC One Mini
HTC One Dual.
Lenovo VibeX
Nexus 5 (LG)
Please suggest. THanks.
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aniyan.rajan6 said:
Yes, may be. I have just listed the phones available in the local shops here in my place. Nexus 5 is also available, which is around $485.
I understand that N5 means Nexus5.
Even though I am a developer, I am new to the android platform. So I thought of checking with you guys. The price for Nexus5 is okay for me. Are there any different versions for Nexus5 ? (I am not able to post urls, to show you the Nexus5 which is available in India.)
Thanks.
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aniyan.rajan6 said:
I think I can order from Google directly and my friend will carry the phone to india for me. Please give me the exact url.
I understand that only D821 will work in India, not the D820. Am I correct ? Can I order the D821 directly from google ?
Thanks.
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okay. One doubt. Will the D820 work in India ? Or it works only in North America ?
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Hello fellow mate
The Nexus 5, though pricey in India at 29k, is hands down the most value for money phone currently in the Indian Market. And I think with the given specs it also is reasonably 'future-proof' if an outdated phone is a concern for you.
Nexus phones are to a Developer, like candies are to a child If you're thinking of Android Development, Nexus is the way to go..
And regarding getting the phone, there are 2 versions as already stated in the previous posts. The one you might want to have is the D821 which is the international version. And though ordering it in the USA and getting it here might prove to be cheaper, it is not going to give you warranty. If you want to have a claim over warranty, I suggest buying it through Google Play India itself. And if you're bent on retaining warranty & getting it from USA, I would suggest getting international warranty (I personally do not have a clue on how it's done though)
Wish you luck for your new phone!!
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freak744 said:
Hello fellow mate
The Nexus 5, though pricey in India at 29k, is hands down the most value for money phone currently in the Indian Market. And I think with the given specs it also is reasonably 'future-proof' if an outdated phone is a concern for you.
Nexus phones are to a Developer, like candies are to a child If you're thinking of Android Development, Nexus is the way to go..
And regarding getting the phone, there are 2 versions as already stated in the previous posts. The one you might want to have is the D821 which is the international version. And though ordering it in the USA and getting it here might prove to be cheaper, it is not going to give you warranty. If you want to have a claim over warranty, I suggest buying it through Google Play India itself. And if you're bent on retaining warranty & getting it from USA, I would suggest getting international warranty (I personally do not have a clue on how it's done though)
Wish you luck for your new phone!!
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I was not aware of Google Play India. I thought I can order only from Google USA and ship it to India. Also there is an impression that the products sold in USA is having the best quality. I don't know if it is correct or not in the case of Nexus5.
I understand that D821 is the version that works with the bandwidths available in India. D820 works only in North America. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Another question is : I saw some reviews in youtube. They say that Nexus5 is having a problem with Auto-Focus.
( I am not able to post urls. So please goto youtube and type "Erica Griffin Nexus 5". )
What is your opinion about this ?
Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Also there is an impression that the products sold in USA is having the best quality. I don't know if it is correct or not in the case of Nexus5.
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Who told you that? All Nexus 5's are same... Manufactured by LG. Doesn't differ in build quality from country to country. However, defects can be there on any device.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
I understand that D821 is the version that works with the bandwidths available in India. D820 works only in North America. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Yes, if you buy a D820 unit, you can kiss 4g good bye in India. Indian 4g bands vary from north America.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Another question is : I saw some reviews in youtube. They say that Nexus5 is having a problem with Auto-Focus.
( I am not able to post urls. So please goto youtube and type "Erica Griffin Nexus 5". )
What is your opinion about this ?
Thanks.
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No auto focus problems here. The Nexus 5 is one of the best camera phones I've used! The recent update has even improved the shutter speed a lot.
- Sent from an IceCold Hammerhead!
vin4yak said:
Who told you that? All Nexus 5's are same... Manufactured by LG. Doesn't differ in build quality from country to country. However, defects can be there on any device.
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I was saying, generally there is such an impression among people in India. But I don't know if it is true or not in the case of smartphones.
vin4yak said:
Yes, if you buy a D820 unit, you can kiss 4g good bye in India. Indian 4g bands vary from north America.
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okay, so 4g in India works only with D821, the international version.
vin4yak said:
No auto focus problems here. The Nexus 5 is one of the best camera phones I've used! The recent update has even improved the shutter speed a lot.
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okay, but it is shown as a big problem in that youtube video that I have specified in my previous post. I know that it won't be as good as a Canon DSLR camera, but I am comparing the camera that comes with smartphones.
Which one is good for an average user 16GB or 32GB, as Nexus5 doesn't have the memory expansion ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
okay, but it is shown as a big problem in that youtube video that I have specified in my previous post. I know that it won't be as good as a Canon DSLR camera, but I am comparing the camera that comes with smartphones.
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Take a look at tur general section and check the camera reviews by other users and also check the images taken by the Nexus 5..it pretty much beats many smartphones of it's class!
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Which one is good for an average user 16GB or 32GB, as Nexus5 doesn't have the memory expansion ?
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Pretty much depends on your needs.. If you are a heavy user and play games and store videos on your device, 16gb(12.5 user available) will not be enough! I would strongly suggest you to get the 32gig(26.76 user available).
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vin4yak said:
Take a look at tur general section and check the camera reviews by other users and also check the images taken by the Nexus 5..it pretty much beats many smartphones of it's class!
Pretty much depends on your needs.. If you are a heavy user and play games and store videos on your device, 16gb(12.5 user available) will not be enough! I would strongly suggest you to get the 32gig(26.76 user available).
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Yes, I think I will go for the 32 gig one. It is just 3k rupees more.
When I started this discussion, I thought Nexus is not a good phone. But now I came to know that Nexus5 is the most hackable smart phone that runs Android.
What is the difference between buying the phone from Google Play India and buying from the local shops in India ? Why did you suggest Google Play India ? Is there any benefit ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Yes, I think I will go for the 32 gig one. It is just 3k rupees more.
When I started this discussion, I thought Nexus is not a good phone. But now I came to know that Nexus5 is the most hackable smart phone that runs Android.
What is the difference between buying the phone from Google Play India and buying from the local shops in India ? Why did you suggest Google Play India ? Is there any benefit ?
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Google covers warranty if you have bought from Google Play which is excellent whereas if you buy from a retailer, LG provides warranty.
Difference is that, Google allegedly provides a brand new device if there's a hardware failure whereas LG will replace the motherboard or the specific part which is faulty.
One more benefit which you get with Google is that they don't care whether you root the device. They replace the device irrespective whether you have flashed a custom rom on it or done anything else with it whereas with LG, you will need to get back to fully stock before sending the device in for repairs!
Besides warranty, the device costs 1k less than the retail stores.. However, if you buy from an online retailer, you can avail ongoing discounts so finally it actually burns down to warranty.
I have bought mine from Croma (Tata Enterprise) and have also bought extended 1 year warranty from them.. So my device is covered for the next 2 years!
vin4yak said:
Google covers warranty if you have bought from Google Play which is excellent whereas if you buy from a retailer, LG provides warranty.
Difference is that, Google allegedly provides a brand new device if there's a hardware failure whereas LG will replace the motherboard or the specific part which is faulty.
One more benefit which you get with Google is that they don't care whether you root the device. They replace the device irrespective whether you have flashed a custom rom on it or done anything else with it whereas with LG, you will need to get back to fully stock before sending the device in for repairs!
Besides warranty, the device costs 1k less than the retail stores.. However, if you buy from an online retailer, you can avail ongoing discounts so finally it actually burns down to warranty.
I have bought mine from Croma (Tata Enterprise) and have also bought extended 1 year warranty from them.. So my device is covered for the next 2 years!
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okay, So basically it is the flexibility in warranty terms. I think I will order from Google Play India.
Another question that I have is the following. Maybe this one sounds weird, but I have this in my mind for a long time.
I am not new to the mobile devices. I have worked in Pocket PC during 2002-2003 period. It runs WinCE and I was programming in VC++ and .NET in it. We were having the PocketPC devices, but for convenience, we were using the emulators. Thus we were able to test the applications that we develop, without having the device in our hand. This was fine for the Application Development that we were doing. So the question is why can't we use emulators for the developments in Android ? Is it because of the limitations ? Why the programmers don't prefer emulators and always use the Phone itself for testing the software ?
Thanks.
We do have emulators, in the Android sdk. It doesn't help with everything though. There's no substitute for an actual device.
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Custom Rom != Voiding warranty?
vin4yak said:
Difference is that, Google allegedly provides a brand new device if there's a hardware failure whereas LG will replace the motherboard or the specific part which is faulty.
One more benefit which you get with Google is that they don't care whether you root the device. They replace the device irrespective whether you have flashed a custom rom on it or done anything else with it whereas with LG, you will need to get back to fully stock before sending the device in for repairs!
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Are you pretty sure about what you just said?
I know about the replacement policy and have 'RMA'd my N5 once, but does flashing a custom ROM really not void warranty?:silly:
P.S.:I had bought the device from Google.....
Hello, I am going to buy this Nexus 5 in U.S. (NY) next week.
What should I know befor buying it? I am not from U.S. (from Israel).
What should I check or ensure?
I am going to buy it from T-MOBILT by the way.
Thank' guys!
You should know that you'll be buying the wrong version for use in Israel. There's two versions of the Nexus, one for North America (D820) and one for the rest of the world (D821), the difference being the radio bands that are supported, specifically the LTE bands. So while a North American model will work oversees for voice and 3G data, it won't for work 4G, as it doesn't support the proper bands.
Everything he said^^^^^^^. Also you should check out a few review videos on YouTube to get an idea of what the Nexus 5 has to offer.
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OuncE718 said:
Everything he said^^^^^^^. Also you should check out a few review videos on YouTube to get an idea of what the Nexus 5 has to offer.
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BirchBarlow said:
You should know that you'll be buying the wrong version for use in Israel. There's two versions of the Nexus, one for North America (D820) and one for the rest of the world (D821), the difference being the radio bands that are supported, specifically the LTE bands. So while a North American model will work oversees for voice and 3G data, it won't for work 4G, as it doesn't support the proper bands.
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Thank you both very much. T-MOBILE is good for me?
tzvi said:
Thank you both very much. T-MOBILE is good for me?
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T-Mobile is North American Version. See previous posts. No 4G!
rootSU said:
T-Mobile is North American Version. See previous posts. No 4G!
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reading comprehension is key to this forum.... too bad its not a skill everyone has.
Oh, got it. Zepius, if you are tired of explain things twice - go sleep. Sorry for no understanding.
Well, wher should I buy it than? Do you have a clue which stores in NY are reliable and not expensive?
Thanks.
tzvi said:
Oh, got it. Zepius, if you are tired of explain things twice - go sleep. Sorry for no understanding.
Well, wher should I buy it than? Do you have a clue which stores in NY are reliable and not expensive?
Thanks.
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You cannot buy a non American nexus in an American store. Buy it in Europe.
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rootSU said:
You cannot buy a non American nexus in an American store. Buy it in Europe.
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wEIRD. Do you know why Google do it? Thanks you, I'll just order it.
tzvi said:
wEIRD. Do you know why Google do it? Thanks you, I'll just order it.
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why would i, as an american, need to generally buy a phone that is meant for European countries?
the US uses different LTE bands than the European countries, so thats why the hardware (note: radio only bands only) is different.
tzvi said:
Hello, I am going to buy this Nexus 5 in U.S. (NY) next week.
What should I know befor buying it? I am not from U.S. (from Israel).
What should I check or ensure?
I am going to buy it from T-MOBILT by the way.
Thank' guys!
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http://www.myworldphone.com/ sells the international Nexus 5 D821. Their store is located in New York City (in Queens close to JFK Airport). You can do online chat with them to confirm before you depart home.
Since its sold in China, how can others living in Europe, etc buy it? We can maybe use this thread and list reliable resellers here
Always choose GeekBuying to buy my Xiaomi stuff. Placed my preorder of 32GB version last week, hope it will arrive soon. Will show my feedback here.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiao...-Core-1-8GHz-13-0MP-5-0MP---White-354226.html
Trusted sellers that I have had experience of include:
http://www.honorbuy.com/
https://ibuygou.com/
http://firstchinaphone.com/
http://beexz.com/
http://hotmid.com/
http://shop.gizchina.com/
Check out the following 2 sites as well:
http://www.oppomart.com/
http://merimobiles.com/
Cheers
This will not support ATT LTE or HSPA bands will it?
shaxs said:
This will not support ATT LTE or HSPA bands will it?
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Just HSPA+, no LTE
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Ulver said:
Just HSPA+, no LTE
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
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Im actually okay with that....when will the 3gb version be available?
I want to buy Xiami Mi4c. I live in INDIA.
Does anyone know if this device will be launched in INDIA or not ? Any info on this will be appreciated.
Also my colleague is travelling to China, so will it be a good idea to get the phone from China ? Will it have international warranty ?
Any support for 4g in the uk?
Anyone tried buying from the actual mi site and getting delivered to a chinese shipping address?
All those resellers have a significant mark up and/or limited color choice.
I thought I might get someone I know who speaks chinese to do it, I cant see much downside but ... you never know.
I think the phone would be the same right? Its not like theres an english version.
I
Efox is good
Also cect-shop, but i would go with efox
if I buy this phone from Oppomart (for ex) the apps will be in chinese and no google play? thats what i understood.
fancccc said:
if I buy this phone from Oppomart (for ex) the apps will be in chinese and no google play? thats what i understood.
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The Chinese version should be no google play included. You can get your device rooted and download a "谷歌安装器" app to install google play services. That's how chinese users install google play services.
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Any support for 4g in the uk?
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Yes, it supports bands 3 and 7 but not 20 (so no dice on Vodafone)
4g support
on ibuygou they state on the product page that the phone supports both 4g networks (FDD and TDD)
Does anyone know whether it's supports both lte-FDD and lte-TDD?
I know it's dual sim, but do not know whether there is only 1 version of the phone that supports both 4g standards or that there is a specific version of the phone for FDD and a specific version of the phone for TDD.
schaap23 said:
on ibuygou they state on the product page that the phone supports both 4g networks (FDD and TDD)
Does anyone know whether it's supports both lte-FDD and lte-TDD?
I know it's dual sim, but do not know whether there is only 1 version of the phone that supports both 4g standards or that there is a specific version of the phone for FDD and a specific version of the phone for TDD.
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Yes, it supports both FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE per the official specs page (in the Mainland China part of the site): http://www.mi.com/mi4c/specs/
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
Yes, it supports both FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE per the official specs page (in the Mainland China part of the site)
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Ah thank you. I cannot read chinese so I couldn't figure that out from the product page.
In that case it's a really nice phone. Snapdragon 808, FDD and TDD.
Any of these companies have warehouses in Europe to save on custom charges and a better returns service if needed?
Here in Italy I know at least two well estabilished web-stores that import China devices (not only Xiaomi) and sell them with a "proprietary" warranty service.
They are TopResellerStore.it and SmartyLife.net, while both have excellent feedbacks I personally purchased from the former with good satisfaction.
Hope this helps.
Giocarro said:
Here in Italy I know at least two well estabilished web-stores that import China devices (not only Xiaomi) and sell them with a "proprietary" warranty service.
They are TopResellerStore.it and SmartyLife.net, while both have excellent feedbacks I personally purchased from the former with good satisfaction.
Hope this helps.
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Im looking at TopResellerStore but cant make it out if they have stock or not. Can you find out if they ship to UK and if so, the cost please?
So I ordered the ROG Phone 5 Tencent version by mistake and I couldn't cancel it in time before they shipped it. I tried out the phone upon receiving it even though I had already read about the issues with 5G connectivity in the US. Testing out the bands with LTE Connectivity it obviously will not connect to any of T-Mobile's 5G bands in the US and on top it will only connect band 4 of tmobiles 4GLTE which is quite slower than band 66. I tested it side by side with my old Galaxy Note 8 and the note 8 was consistently getting better speeds of about 60/5 on band 66 while the tencent ROG phone 5 was only getting about 25-30 download at most on band 4. I promptly created a return order and bought the international version from NGP.
So in summary for those wondering, the tencent ROG phone 5 does not have the bands needed for a phone at this price point.
Check out this link for an accurate list of bands for the China version and then the international version.
Will Asus Rog Phone 5 work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Asus Rog Phone 5 with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
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I will be receiving my international version in 2 days and will be testing the mobile bands in the Los Angeles area. Hoping for 5G!!
Please let us know of your findings as im getting ready to buy the international version from the same place! and am also using T-Mobile
Also, does anyone have an info on an official USA launch? (not carrier held but like ASUS selling the phone on the USA e store website)
A how to guide for getting bad service?
Rotary88 said:
So I ordered the ROG Phone 5 Tencent version by mistake and I couldn't cancel it in time before they shipped it. I tried out the phone upon receiving it even though I had already read about the issues with 5G connectivity in the US. Testing out the bands with LTE Connectivity it obviously will not connect to any of T-Mobile's 5G bands in the US and on top it will only connect band 4 of tmobiles 4GLTE which is quite slower than band 66. I tested it side by side with my old Galaxy Note 8 and the note 8 was consistently getting better speeds of about 60/5 on band 66 while the tencent ROG phone 5 was only getting about 25-30 download at most on band 4. I promptly created a return order and bought the international version from NGP.
So in summary for those wondering, the tencent ROG phone 5 does not have the bands needed for a phone at this price point.
Check out this link for an accurate list of bands for the China version and then the international version.
Will Asus Rog Phone 5 work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Asus Rog Phone 5 with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
I will be receiving my international version in 2 days and will be testing the mobile bands in the Los Angeles area. Hoping for 5G!!
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Doesn't the tencent version support SA 71? T-Mobile recently added that frequency I believe unless I misunderstood
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Doesn't the tencent version support SA 71? T-Mobile recently added that frequency I believe unless I misunderstood
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It's going to be hit or miss, depending on location.
So I ordered the international version literally 2 days before the USA version came out to just find out that it's the exact same **** as the Tencent version. NO 5G on T-Mobile and it uses the slowest bands for 4GLTE. My LTE speed in the LA area is an abysmal 27mb download and a 9mb upload. What an absolute nightmare this has been. The one time I try to go something besides Samsung or Apple.
Does anyone know what the restocking fee's are on these returns?
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So I ordered the international version literally 2 days before the USA version came out to just find out that it's the exact same **** as the Tencent version. NO 5G on T-Mobile and it uses the slowest bands for 4GLTE. My LTE speed in the LA area is an abysmal 27mb download and a 9mb upload. What an absolute nightmare this has been. The one time I try to go something besides Samsung or Apple.
Does anyone know what the restocking fee's are on these returns?
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i thought it says its nothing if the return is because youre having connection/network issues, i just ordered the USA version, ill let you know how that one behaves when it arrives on saturday
i have a new sim card waiting for the phone when it arrives (supposedly you need a new sim to use 5g on tmobile)
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It's going to be hit or miss, depending on location.
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True that. I have the Tencent on Metro I get LTE but no 5g, I love this phone I have no issues with it but 5G would be awesome. They say they use the same service but really they don't they're both different frequencies I'm eager to try that new T-Mobile SIM card though since my phone is dual SIM I think I might go ahead and get the T-Mobile service with the SIM card I'll report back that you guys know how it goes thinking about doing it this coming week.
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i thought it says its nothing if the return is because youre having connection/network issues, i just ordered the USA version, ill let you know how that one behaves when it arrives on saturday
i have a new sim card waiting for the phone when it arrives (supposedly you need a new sim to use 5g on tmobile)
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· Failure of network compatibility in the area – customers are responsible to contact their service provider for the availability of compatible network in the area prior to purchasing the phone. If unfortunately you have no network due to this reason, you can return the phone with 15% restocking fee of the item price if it is in its original condition.
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Rotary88 said:
So I ordered the international version literally 2 days before the USA version came out to just find out that it's the exact same **** as the Tencent version. NO 5G on T-Mobile and it uses the slowest bands for 4GLTE. My LTE speed in the LA area is an abysmal 27mb download and a 9mb upload. What an absolute nightmare this has been. The one time I try to go something besides Samsung or Apple.
Does anyone know what the restocking fee's are on these returns?
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Actually, the international version is basically the same as the US version without warranty coverage.
If they are the same, it doesn't make sense to eat the restocking fee then. Rotary88, are you using a current SIM like the other user mentioned? Hopefully when they get their phone and test on saturday they get better results.
I purchased mine from the US store this morning (I don't need 512gb storage or 18gb ram, and the other extras will never get used lol). The price point of the tencent versions are attractive for sure but I have heard nothing but issues around the WW converted models.
If it turns out that all versions (US, international, CN) have the same issues maybe I will return the US and save some dollars.
I'm just rambling here, good luck Rotary88
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· Failure of network compatibility in the area – customers are responsible to contact their service provider for the availability of compatible network in the area prior to purchasing the phone. If unfortunately you have no network due to this reason, you can return the phone with 15% restocking fee of the item price if it is in its original condition.
Shipping and Returns
ngpstoreusa.com
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Checkout NGP_STORE_USA’s Seller Profile.! Get the latest deals from Seller Profile. all with faster shipping and excellent customer services
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Actually, the international version is basically the same as the US version without warranty coverage.
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ah must have remembered wrong. i don't think they're the same bandwise, for instance from what i understand the international is the C variant and doesn't support band 71 or 66 but this is listed as supported on the USA e-store for the USA phone. in fact every band except the mmWave that both ATT and T-Mobile use is listed on the USA versions purchase page
i did simply my check tho and ignored the fact that the shop page doesn't list 2g/3g/5g bands explicitly and just checked for a matching number, but i imagine thats what they meant, considering the page was just created and for example maybe they found theres no need to list n41 and 41 essentially listing 41 twice.
i have no phone atm, which maybe you can tell since my posts lack any auto correct, so really hoping for the best
either way i have a USA version coming on saturday and ill let everyone know of the results
So I just swapped out my old sim for a new T-Mobile SIM and its the same result with the international and also tencent variant ASUS_I005DA. Even though version A supposedly supports all the right bands, No T-Mobile 5G and also crippled LTE. This seems like something to do with their network simply not recognizing the device or allowing it to use other bands. After doing some research it seems the device also has to be carrier supported in order to connect to their extended LTE and 5G bands.
From what I've read here on the forums, calling them is a waste of time. I guess all I can do is wait to see if even the US "variants" get 5G/LTE but I somehow am doubting it since they seem identical to the international variant. I'm stuck with a $1000 gimped phone until T-Mobile decides to support it on their network.
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So I just swapped out my old sim for a new T-Mobile SIM and its the same result with the international and also tencent variant ASUS_I005DA. Even though version A supposedly supports all the right bands, No T-Mobile 5G and also crippled LTE. This seems like something to do with their network simply not recognizing the device or allowing it to use other bands. After doing some research it seems the device also has to be carrier supported in order to connect to their extended LTE and 5G bands.
From what I've read here on the forums, calling them is a waste of time. I guess all I can do is wait to see if even the US "variants" get 5G/LTE but I somehow am doubting it since they seem identical to the international variant. I'm stuck with a $1000 gimped phone until T-Mobile decides to support it on their network.
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strange because according to asus the I005DA is not the A version but the G version. The version i believe is on the box not the model.
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strange because according to asus the I005DA is not the A version but the G version. The version i believe is on the box not the model.
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Did you contact ASUS ? do you have and official documentation / site where they say which version is tencent / Global / US ?
I had bought the tencent version - i005DA was mentioned prominently in the packaging.. and 'tencent games' was printed on the back of the phone.
Neither T-mobile nor AT&T worked reliably - actually I was barely ever getting a signal.
I returned that.one . .and got myself a global variant - asus_i005DC is mentioned in the packaging.
Now everything works fine - I have seen the 5G symbol, but not really great speeds, but that could be because of my area.
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Did you contact ASUS ? do you have and official documentation / site where they say which version is tencent / Global / US ?
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https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/47006/which-version-does-asus-rog-5-model-i005da-map-to i think this is where he found it, see last post (you can press the back button if it asks you to create acct or sign in and it wont ask again and will allow you to read)
this would imply the last letter in the model number is not necessarily the version the phone corresponds to, for every model even your asus_i005DC
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https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/47006/which-version-does-asus-rog-5-model-i005da-map-to i think this is where he found it, see last post (you can press the back button if it asks you to create acct or sign in and it wont ask again and will allow you to read)
this would imply the last letter in the model number is not necessarily the version the phone corresponds to, for every model even your asus_i005DC
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That's exactly it.
At this point I'm waiting to see if the one they sell on Asus dot com is any better than the global version sold on aliexpress or if I should go all in on -300$ less
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That's exactly it.
At this point I'm waiting to see if the one they sell on Asus dot com is any better than the global version sold on aliexpress or if I should go all in on -300$ less
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$300 less means a Tencent flashed to WW, or at least it did for mine. The idiot seller didn't realize the bands aren't controlled by the software, but PayPal called it "materially similar" and denied the refund. Oh well.
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That's exactly it.
At this point I'm waiting to see if the one they sell on Asus dot com is any better than the global version sold on aliexpress or if I should go all in on -300$ less
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well ill find out if the USA version on asus.com is better literally tomorrow and ill post the update here. i imagine it is now that i understand the versions don't follow model number.
twistedumbrella said:
$300 less means a Tencent flashed to WW, or at least it did for mine. The idiot didn't realize the bands aren't controlled by the software, but PayPal called it "materially similar" and denied the refund. Oh well.
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I was looking more at the global version rather than the ROM