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desire s ram and cpu usage.

So i just rooted the phone and installed the virtuous unity rom. When i installed the rom i assumed it would take care of the ram and cpu problems which is why i didn't really care much. But since it didn't solve the problem, i'm starting to wonder where the hell all the cpu and ram power is going. On idle i only have about 150mb of ram available and my cpu is 50% in use. Is this normal? Can anything be done about it?
It's also very noticeable.

Strange.
Are you controlling the running services and application-tasks manually ?
I usually have around 400MB free ram and cpu usage is just on the normal range, and an ordinary task manager does the job.

dan-fish said:
It's also very noticeable.
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is your phone running slowly? 150Mb is loads or RAM, have you ever run out?
custom roms tend to make more use of RAM for caches and to improve performance etc....especially if you try sense 3.0 based rom which by nature will be larger.

How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
also why does the phone claim to have 768mb when i can only see about 611mb. Is there some memory reserved for the os or something?

dan-fish said:
How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
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You can't get 400Mb that must be a typo! unless you've created a Senseless ROM.
Even when I kill ever process that runs using the the fast reboot market app I still get less than 350Mb!

I have over 400MB free, stock ROM, Settings take nearly 18MB, so my guess is about 418MB free. Based on stock app manager. I have lots of apps, 3G Watchdog running and five full home screens. I had very same situation on previous DS. How much do you have?
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i can't believe my eyes here.....

I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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With LBC MOD i get
Total memory: 612MB
Used: 424MB
Free: 188MB

Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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chris5s said:
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Sure not! Tried both roms and they work really FAST!
so the ram available is okay, but the 50% CPU is a problem i guess(i dont have a program to check that)
If you fell that your phone is slow even after wipe and flashing a new rom it might be a hardware issue.

Numline1 said:
I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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Check image in attachment.
That's the memory when i kill all unnecessary crap running.
With the needed apps running it varies let's say 350-380MB.
Using stock rom ( europe )

:O WOW, maybe is time for me to back to stock!, joking but wow...well, looking in that screen ( on settings) i get
185 MB used and 405 MB free

ben_pyett said:
Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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100% sure
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[Q] Total Memory = 558MB???

Hello Guys
Why is Total Memory showing as 558MBs in task manager when it should be 768?
How come some HTC Sensations are 4G some 3G? + how do you check if its 4G or 3G?
Thanks
PS Love my phone

Some are locked by OS.
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How do i unlock so that it use all the RAM?

You will not unlock the rest of the RAM memory beacause it's reserved for the Adreno chip.

i take it the Adreno chip is the graphics CHIP?

Hero_uk1 said:
i take it the Adreno chip is the graphics CHIP?
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Yes, it's a graphic chip

should have waited for the htc evo which has 1gB ram!! Dam

you should've bought the other device which has 1G ram..

Doesn't the iphone 4 have 512mb of ram? I don't hear anyone complaining there..
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why do people complain about ram do they even know how android handles ram.as long as you have 100-170mb you are alright no program uses over 30mb along so,the most i seen is 23mb and im looking at it now and it is settings at 1 process and 0 sevices i have 278mb free ram used 242mb

Hgaara said:
Doesn't the iphone 4 have 512mb of ram? I don't hear anyone complaining there..
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iPhone users don't even know what RAM is..
@OP the RAM isn't gonna make much difference due to the way Android manages its memory. Besides even on EVO 3D you'll be unhappy with 700 some odd available RAM.

I've been having a lot of problems with not having enough ram, or at least I think that's the problem. My sensation keeps restarting sense, and usually when i check I only have about 70 - 80 available ram. i'm not sure what's using it, but it gets pretty annoying.

digitizedremix said:
I've been having a lot of problems with not having enough ram, or at least I think that's the problem. My sensation keeps restarting sense, and usually when i check I only have about 70 - 80 available ram. i'm not sure what's using it, but it gets pretty annoying.
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Minfree settings might be too aggressive. I haven't had sense restart once yet.

Sdobron said:
Minfree settings might be too aggressive. I haven't had sense restart once yet.
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Minfree settings? Not too sure what you mean but for me, my phone is stock haven't modded it or anything. Just keeps restarting.

More RAM consumed in ICS

Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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asdf20 said:
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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devilhunter47 said:
ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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We used to have task manager in GB but that's now vanished in ICS.
Can you suggest me any good task manager?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Apex_Strider said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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asdf20 said:
Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Android has its own task manager, which is quite sufficient. What people don't seem to understand about RAM, is that it is meant to be used, not the other way around. Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
Android can manage memory rather well (and the settings are still there to tweak if you just have to touch stuff) and having up to 300 percent more RAM makes a huge difference. There will be a few times where killing off a handful of tasks will speed things up, but overall you'll get the best performance out of your phone or tablet if you stop worrying about it and let Android be Android. If you need to live on the edge (and I know a lot of you guys do) root and hack your phone with some amazing custom ROM that has everything tweaked and allows you to travel forward in time -- I'm right there with ya, 'cause it's fun as hell.
But don't worry about how many apps are running on your phone, or about using widgets that tell you these things, because it just doesn't matter anymore.
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Long press home button, it will appear. Swipe to close apps.

Try with debugging mode enabled along with force GPU rendering from settings...

Task managers/killers are completely useless in android.The only use of task killers is when a rogue app keeps running in background consuming lots of CPU cycles.
After the ics update my phone too was a bit slow but then I factory reset it & then wiped the cache partition. I don't know what did the trick but it works great now.
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Go to development, background applications, at most 4.
This way lag will stop.
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[Q] How many ram is available??

hello guys..
I am new for this forum and also for xperia L
As mentioned in paper it should have 1gb ram..
but i found only 777 mb ram in setting<apps<running<sum of used and free..
and as i have installed whats app.. wechat viber.. it shows only 200mb ram free..
so that in my mobile subway surfer is also not working so smoothly..
so now any solution??
and there is any app which can improve performance.. i have install some app like game booster.. but i have not noticed any improvement..

200mb are for system and for gpu memory
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we have about 997 or so, which is stated as one GB.
I have about 380 mb free always.
This is enough and subway surfers maay lag because of other things... background processes or so.
Greets
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Is it oK???
ram varies from 250mb to 280mb..
map consume 16mb but cant shut it even not using..
google services 22 mb
we chat 25mb..
whats app 33mb
trucaller 11mb
nd others r less than 10mb
but none of them r going to shut..
even i restart nd after some use it has same memory left as previous..

keenofhiphop said:
we have about 997 or so, which is stated as one GB.
I have about 380 mb free always.
This is enough and subway surfers maay lag because of other things... background processes or so.
Greets
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so we can play big games like asphalt 7.. mc4 etc on 250 to 280mb free ram??
which site is good to download paid android apps as i mentioned above??

Mc4 is told to run flawlessly, take a look at general section where we have a gaming thread.
My Ram looks like this:
But I have unlocked and rooted as well and removed a lot of bloatware.
We can surely run all games available atm.
I dont play much but shadowgun deadzone runs perfect (also without any modification)
Greets
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Played Asphalt 7 Heat : No Lags what so ever!!
@ Parshvas ; you can disable apps like Gmaps,G+ and sony select if you arent using them!!

Rockmins said:
@ Parshvas ; you can disable apps like Gmaps,G+ and sony select if you arent using them!!
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How do you disable ? I have only options to uninstall updates and close the app. No option for disable.

damian01211 said:
How do you disable ? I have only options to uninstall updates and close the app. No option for disable.
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after unsinstalling updates in same button appears: disable application
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A common misconception with RAM on Android is that higher free RAM is better. Google has commented on this several times publicly, that Windows RAM and Android RAM are not used the same. With Android, it is designed to use as much of the RAM as is reasonable to allow for very quick opening of common and recently used apps - which works perfectly in tandom with Google's design of the right on screen button for recently used apps.
From my experience using 1GB RAM phones on Android, I find that that amount is more than sufficient for Jelly Bean. This, I think is the key point. What amount of RAM is adequate for the OS? Almost every phone on ICS with 512RAM felt slow and laggy to me. I think 1GB is appropriate and also in Jelly Bean while 512 is fine for Gingerbread.
I recently found one app kept waking the CPU. I used Greenify to freeze it. I got a little excited and froze more apps. My phone kept restarting and freezing, RAM went nuts. When stopped intefering with the OS and left everything unfrozen then the phone operated perfectly.

[Q] RAM Usage - SII Plus GT-I9105P

I don't know if it's just me but my phone is using alot of ram (no?). It's like 550-560 while all apps are closed. When I open any app it gets up to 650-700 and the phone goes really slow. Im using stock bulgarian 4.2.2, non-rooted. Apps installed: Viber,WhatsApp,Zedge,Subway Surfers,Candy Crush Saga,Badoo,Clean Master.
Thanks in advance.

DranzerGig said:
I don't know if it's just me but my phone is using alot of ram (no?). It's like 550-560 while all apps are closed. When I open any app it gets up to 650-700 and the phone goes really slow. Im using stock bulgarian 4.2.2, non-rooted. Apps installed: Viber,WhatsApp,Zedge,Subway Surfers,Candy Crush Saga,Badoo,Clean Master.
Thanks in advance.
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Can u send screenshot?
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rs tony said:
Can u send screenshot?
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Screenshot of what? Ram usage? Apps?

DranzerGig said:
Screenshot of what? Ram usage? Apps?
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Ram usage. Ur ram usage is probably normal
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DranzerGig said:
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Don't watch it from clean master panel, watch ur ram level from ur phones ram panel. I think clean master's ram panel shows u wrong level

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Oh.. Maybe it's normal..
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I dont think its normal. Maybe some app is eating my ram. Whats your average usage without apps open?
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DranzerGig said:
I dont think its normal. Maybe some app is eating my ram. Whats your average usage without apps open?
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I use custom rom and its always like less than 500mb. Is ur rom offical(not flashed, rooted etc)?
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you can check which app uses what amount of RAM in settings > more > application manager > running
just remove Clean Master and don't worry about RAM. android pretty much takes care about that automatically.

Well, mine, running the latest, rooted stock 4.2.2 (I9105PXXUBNE1) also drives me nuts with its crazy RAM usage. Idling, it offers me puny 200 MB free memory at best, 300, if it doesn't hate me at the moment. I admit, I have lots of apps, but all of them are greenified.
I also use Seeder and SD-Booster to hopefully, squeeze some power out.
How could I possibly enhance its performance? And no, I'm not going to flash any custom ROMs, I like the stock FW.
I'm not using any hard mods besides apps and Xposed with Wanam, so besides these my phone is vanilla. And I factory reset my phone a couple days ago.

you could change the CPU governor. interactive governor gives a noticeable performance boost but it also slightly increases the battery usage. or you could flash a custom kernel (mosh kernel for stock) and tweak it even further with the 'performance control' app.

Mine hovers between 470-370mb free depending on how heavily I've used it since the last reboot (Using LiquidSmooth 3.1 ROM the 13.06.2014 build). The free memory numbers aren't that relevant - you shouldn't obsess over them. Besides your apps and ROM, performance depends on your kernel, governor, scheduler and the way your low memory killer, dalvik vm and cache are configured.

cLick1338 said:
...the way your low memory killer, dalvik vm and cache are configured.
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care to explain this bit?

Ram usage!
I think its normal for samsung roms because they have a lot of services and a lot of samsung apps like s suggest, chat on, samsung apps, samsung hub, s voice... so it mighty can use more ram than its supposed to use!

karamancho said:
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For example, using an app such as Kernel Tweaker, you can customize your Low Memory Killer (LMK) to be very agressive - meaning it "kills" apps very quickly, even when you have high amounts of free ram - meaning you'll always have plenty of free RAM; or you can configure it to be very light, meaning it will only kill background apps and services when it is very necessary (e.g. when you only have 12mb of free RAM left.).
Other Dalvik tweaks are a question of finesse but they still affect performance in a subtle way.

I found it were the AVG (AntiVirus, PrivacyFix, Uninstaller, Cleaner, Zen) apps that made my phone so sluggish. I uninstalled them and now my phone flies!